Progenitor | Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project

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Brewed by:
Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project
Colorado, United States
crookedstave.com

Style: American Wild Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by ThatsThatDude on 02-11-2015

BEER STATS
Reviews:
56
Ratings:
337
Avg:
4.18
pDev:
5.5%
 
 
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Photo of bluejacket74
4.21/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

375 ml bottle, bottled February 2016. Served in a MadTree Teku, the beer pours a mostly clear dark gold color with about an inch and a half off-white head. Head retention and lacing are both good. Aroma is nice, the brew smells like citrus, tropical fruit, bready malt and some grassiness. For the most part I think the taste is similar to the aroma, but there's also some lemon peel, white grape and earthy flavors noticeable too. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's a bit coating with a good amount of carbonation. I liked this sour ale, definitely worth picking up if you've never had it before!

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Photo of jrenihan
4.11/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Very nice aroma. Brett is prominent, funky scents. Also a lot of fruit. Tangerine sticks out for me. Flavour is similar. Bretty funk, tangerine, orange, slight herbal flavours. Finish is dry.

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Photo of macrosmatic
4.15/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Reviewed from notes. Poured from a 375 mL bottle into a nonic pint glass.

A: Nice clear gold with just a bit of chill haze. Lots of visible carbonation leads to a finger's worth of white head with good retention.

S: Light tartness and a bigger Brettanomyces up front. Some light citrus hops. Not a big aroma overall, but nice.

T: Brett, lemony citric acid, and some funk. Dry grassiness, funky barnyard, and lightly tart. Some citrus and tropical fruit hops over a light cracker malt body. Funk and citrus and pineapple flavors last into the hang.

M: Relatively light body, very low alcohol presence, and good carbonation sensation.

O: Crisp and enjoyable. A nicely balanced Brett funk presence and bright juicy hops. Very enjoyable, easy to drink, albeit nothing insane.

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Photo of TX-Badger
4.06/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a hazy yellow golden color with fizzy white head. Citrus, some grass and floral notes as well on the nose; follows onto the palate. Light bodied. Finishes with citrus and some flowery hop notes.

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Photo of Jadjunk
3.77/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

No label information. Progenitor is brewed in the style of an American Wild Ale, dry hopped, available in 12.7 oz. bottles and on limited draft.

Poured from a 12 .7 oz. bottle to a tulip glass.

(Appearance) Foamy frothed head of a creamy white tone over a densely hazy golden amber body with lively carbonation and abundant sediment in tow. Retention is very good and lacing is moderate and tiered. 4

(Smell) Pilsner and wheat malt body with a light sweetness, a moderately hoppy profile of grassy, piney and pithy citrus notes, and undertones of tart, lemony sourness. Potency is modest. 3.75

(Taste) Tangy sour with a moderate acidity up front, giving way to malt body notes of biscuit and pilsner grain in the midsection, finishing lightly hopped with a mild bitterness. The sourness of this beer is bold, but not much sourness diversity is here to speak of outside of straight lemony acidity and fermented white grape dryness, and the hop profile is equally shallow and difficult to detect against the other factors in the flavor. 3.75

(Mouthfeel) Texture is slick, moderately oily and residual, clean, tangy, medium dry. Carbonation is light, generating a mild frothiness and a moderately crisp finish. Body is shy of medium for the style, medium overall. Balance is moderately tangy sour over sweet. Alcohol presence is low and there are no off characters. 3.75

(Overall) All-around an enjoyable sour, but doesn't carry much distinction in its sourness nor hop additions. Very sour, somewhat lemony, vinous and acidic overall with an unintersting malt and hop profile to compare. Despite all that reportedly goes into it, this beer speaks as fairly one-sided. It's tasty but not close to the best crafted work I've experienced by this brewery. 3.75

Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project's
Progenitor
3.77/5.00

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Photo of SHODriver
4.25/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Poured into a tulip to a pale and cloudy gold topped by two fingers of dense white head that fade to a small pool with some lacing
S: Smells of funk, sourness and citrus with some fruity notes.
T: Taste is nice and tart with some pineapple and citrus up front, a little horseblanket at times as well as some dry cracker like malt. Good citrus throughout. Swallow is more citrus and pineapple with some lingering tartness and a slight minty herbal note.
M: This beer is on the lighter side of medium in body with a nice active carbonation and a dry finish
O: Overall this is another well made wild ale from the folks at crooked stave. The beer has nice flavors and complexity with a really nice tartness that doesn't overshadow the other things going on. Definitely one to try if you can find it.

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Photo of kitch
4.5/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A 375ml bottle bottled in May 2015 poured into a Cantillon ballon glass.

Appearance: It poured a hazy golden colour with a big three finger white head and pretty good retention that leaves a nice ring of lacing.

Aroma: Sour, tart and very fruity with citrus grapefruit, lemon rind, orange followed by tropical mango, passion fruit and peach. There’s a hint of funk.

Taste: Like the aroma, its sour and tart. Orange and grapefruit dominate with a hint of lemon, mango and funk in the background.

Mouthfeel: Light bodied with moderate to high carbonation.

Overall: Thoroughly enjoyable fruity and juicy sourness makes it very easy to drink.

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Photo of ThisWangsChung
4.3/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Pours a murky golden color. The head is a finger high and white in shade. It has a sticky yet soft texture, but poor retention. Patches of lacing cling to the glass nicely.

Despite being bottled in Sept. 2015, the hoppiness is still nice and assertive. I get a lot of grapefruit rind, spruce, lemon, and grass. Being a Crooked Stave brew, I'm also picking up a ton of brett - a ton of nuanced brett. It's quite funky, and this intense funk is integrated within the base beer very well. Even better, the wild qualities are strictly brett-derived, rather than devolving into lacto or acetic acid/vinegar. Properly rustic, balanced, and well-hopped at the same time? Well, that's a winning formula right there!

It tastes more sour than the nose indicated. With an underlying barnyard quality underneath, it opens up fairly tartly. The dry-hopping is subtle, displaying notes of orange, grapefruit, peach, apricot and lemon in conjunction with the sourness. There's a twinge of back end grassiness, as well. Not endlessly complex, but the amazingly deft balance and integration make up for it. This one is downright juicy, and it's amazing for it.

Soft and creamy in feel - so much so, it even finishes lightly sweet. This helps to create the illusion of fruit juice this beer seemingly purports. Carbonation isn't light, but it doesn't strike the palate harshly (neither does the tartness).

I haven't been terribly impressed with the first couple of CS beers I sampled. This, though, finally reveals something I wanted from them all along - a rustic masterpiece. It's an endlessly drinkable brett beer, and I frankly wished I had another bottle. Or 5.

4.3/5: Perhaps the progeny of my restored faith in Crooked Stave?

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Photo of erk0607
4.04/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Look: hazy, yellow, gold, decent head, delicate lacing
Smell: tangerine, mandarin oranges, grapefruit, pineapple, grass, hoppy... fruity but not sweet
Taste: bitter then the brett kicks in with the sour, pineapple, fruity
Feel: light, crisp, foams up on the palate slightly
Overall: good for a wild ale, not a favorite, but solid

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.75/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

375 mL bottle. Hazy orange. Smells of grapefruit hops. Very pungent. Acidic and lemony. Tastes of sour grapefruit and then some lightly sweet grapes. Strong sour bite in the back end. Medium body and just shy of too sour. Still has a ton of hoppiness to it, even at this age. Pretty good.

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Photo of leroybrown10
4.21/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pours a pale gold with some cloudy haze. Large 3 finger head is rather fluffy. Good retention and leaves a ring of foam around the edge of the glass once it recedes. Medium amount of lacing.

Fruity aroma. Lemon, mango, pineapple, and a hint of grapefruit. Some lacto and brett. Mild funky straw and earth.

Tropical and citrus hops on the tongue. Grapefruit, stronger than the nose. Lemon, straw, oak, and earth. Big funk at the end. Medicinal.

Mild mouth feel with medium carbonation. Fruity, tart, mildly dry. Lingering hops, citrus in particular.

Very nice sour. Big hops to balance the tartness. Blends well.

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Photo of Fcolle2
4.34/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pours golden in color with slight haze and a white head. Aromas of citrus rind, hints of hay, Brett, and a slight spicy hop aroma. Flavors of citrus light amounts of Brett, a lemony sour flavor and a slightly spicy dry hop finish. Light crisp and refreshing with a dry finish and plenty of carb.

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Photo of BenGap
4.14/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pours a hazy, light golden color with a big fluffy white head that dissipates into a nice collar. You can see a nice carbonation, but not overly so. A decent amount of yeast in the bottom of the bottle contributes to the haze, as the beer is quite clear until the yeast is suspended.
Nose has a nice citrus hit under the earthy funkiness. As it warms you can pick out a little more dank hop.
The flavor has the expected puckering sour, although it doesn't hit right at first, but builds quickly, leaving just enough to pick up almost a nutty, earthy tone. Once the sour fades off there is some grapefruit bitterness that lingers.
Feel is dry with an almost creaminess from the carbonation. Very smooth mouthfeel.
As expected, another good offering from the artisans, although I would like just a bit more complexity to come through the sour to make it truly spectacular.

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Photo of crob3888
4.5/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a hazy golden yellow with a big fluffy white head. Aromas and flavors are tangerine, barnyard, pineapple, green grass. Excellent sour mouthfeel. Love this.

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Photo of metter98
4.15/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: The beer is clear yellow—slightly pale in color—and has a light amount of visible carbonation. it poured with a short white head that quickly died down, leaving a thin layer of bubbles on the surface, a narrow collar around the edge, and lacing down the sides.
S: Moderate aromas of sourness are present in the nose along with notes of lime citrus and sour apples.
T: The taste follows the smell, having flavors of sour limes and hints of funky brett.
M: It feels light- to medium-bodied and a little tart on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: I found this wild ale to be very enjoyable as it had a good balance between the sourness and fruity flavors.

Serving type: bottle

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Photo of SLeffler27
3.92/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

This is a hazy gold beer with a big foamy white head that leaves a fine lacing on a snifter, as it gradually settles.

Another hoppy grapefruit sour ale. Grapefruit is the primary character, but it does allow subtleties of straw and light funkiness to participate. Warmth replaces the straw with white bread and releases a dry white wine aroma.

Grapefruit, check. Sour, check. Acidic, check. All rather subdued, save for the grapefruit. As this warms-up, sour apple and tangerine do play a role. The finish is lingering and clean.

A light to medium body, a bit sticky, with modest carbonation. Alcohol is well controlled, and I was surprised to confirm this has 6.2% abv. The texture was a little rough, like nylon.

As a sour beer, Progenitor certainly fits ones expectations, but it falls short of my personal opinion of how this category of beers should shine. In hind sight, this indicates a broader range of brewers are working in the field, with broader interpretations, for consumers who may be converting from an exploration of the odd and different, to desiring these in the line-up. While one often becomes skeptical of fads, or muddling of the edges with "safe" knowns such as IPA's; finding something old as new again, is a welcome experience.

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Photo of KillerJigger
4.18/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Great beer from Crooked Stave once again. Nice and refreshing. Great bite yet not over the top. Great balance for this style as well. Nice job brewers!

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Photo of Slatetank
4.24/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

I tried this on Christmas '15, enjoyed from a glass, shared with tenderbranson69

the color is dark golden -clear at first but some particulate either yeast or hops creates a haze beneath the white head with wavy lace stickage. The smell is very herbal with hops apparent in the aroma with light brettanomyces ester and gentle tropical fruity quality. The feel brings a lot of bretty dry and herbal textures with moderate acidity and medium carbonation with semi-dry finis and resinous hop affect.

The taste is good with tangy fruity and slightly herbal mix of flavor with tropical taste from the wild yeast and slight earthy light flavor of pineapple with mild tart dry juicy type taste with subtle tangy citrus flavor in the back with herbal flavor continuing into the slight spicy finish which is dry. Overall I found this to be an above average wild ale, not exactly sour more a hybrid hopped brett beer with herbal and tropical flavors

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Photo of Jmamay22
3.62/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a golden yellow with mild chill haze. Off white head fades quickly to a thin bead. The scent is fruity with some funky Brett impact. Mild bandaid type of medicinal scent. Flavor consists of apricot with lactic tartness. In the finish the mildly phenolic bandaid comes through which detracts from the beer.

Lively spritzy carbonation that gives a creamy mouthfeel. Medium bitterness lingers. Nice beer and interesting.

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Photo of AppaZappa
4.27/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured nice rich golden color with white head and nice lacing. Smell is citrus, lemon, apricot, hops and funk. Taste is very similar: a sour apricot dominates. Feel is light and crisp. An excellent beer!

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Photo of DefenCorps
4.24/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

On tap at Apex last night.

Clear light orange with dense white head, this looks nice. Nose is fresh hops, citrusy, chalky ,mineraly, nice lemon and lactic notes. White peach, nectarines and a smooth vinous character is present. The palate opens tart, clean and with a blend of stone fruit, honey, citrus and some vanilla, oak and wheat. Drying finish, mildly hoppy, grassy and with nice citrus flavors. Some white wine character is present as well. Excellent

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.24/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Crisp, clean, dry and tantalizingly refreshing, Crooked Stave steps away from the usual and strict brettanomyces influences and teases the palate with a sharper, fruitier and more piercing sour taste that gains inspiration from berlinerweiss and gose.

Pale straw and hazy, its canary-yellow color is beautifully bright despite its modest clouding. Jaw-tightening perfumes of tangy tropical fruit, citrus and vinous chardonnay tingle the nose while its early taste is supple with fresh baking bread and dough.

And as its sour brunt pokes and prods at the tongue, its refreshing dry fruit flavors whet the mouth and come alive with dry white wine and a pep of clean cider and vinegar. But its the fruit that steals the show- passionfruit, melon, lime, lemon, kiwi, green grape and apple. Trending sour, sharp and highly piquant, the beer's crisp lemon, lime, and musty balsa frame its finish.

Light and airy, the beer's texture is vinous, citrusy-bitter, acidic and dry to ensure a high rate of palatability. Trailing tropical fruit is short and sour with a quick wheaten, burlap aftertaste.

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Photo of Dope
4.06/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

December 2014 bottling date.

A: A slightly hazy, pale golden pour. Fizzy mid-sized light tan head. Small bits of lacing and halfway decent retention.

S: Big juicy/tart aroma. Loads of oranges, lemons and melons.

T: Whoa. Huge mouth-puckering blast of sour lemons. Light melon in the background. Packs the punch of a sour warhead, literally made me cringe in surprise. Hints of grass and crackers but mostly it's that sour lemon flavor from start to finish. Finish is quick, crisp and refreshing.

M: Medium bodied, very sour and crisp.

O: One hell of a mouth-pucker...er? Extremely sour, obliterating everything in its path. Not bad!

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Photo of ThickNStout
4.3/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

375mL bottle from Hop City (Atlanta, GA). 9.99. Bottled July 2015. Served in a Toppling Goliath teku.

Pours a cloudy, pale, peach hued yellow with almost four full fingers of fluffy white head. That robust froth eventually settles to a splotchy collar, leaving only a few narrow clouds of lace.

Smells funky and tropical with a good deal of Bretty complexity, some pineapple, earthy vegetation, marmalade and faint cracker. Lemons and grapefruit come through as the refrigerated chill subsides.

Strongly sour, bitter grapefruit flavors initially. Pineapple, earthy wild yeast, sugar cane, Granny Smith apples, vague spices- slightly clove-like and a dash of pepper and lemon muffins. At once both sour and funky. Not overtly hoppy but there is a lot of tropical fruit. Goes down incredibly easily.

Medium light feel with lively, abundant carbonation. The aftertaste blend ls lemon pie, pineapple and marmalade all with a healthy dose of earthen funk.

Complex and enticing, Crooked Stave's Progenitor is a tasty mash up of tropical with both sour and funky elements. A tad too pricey to consume regularly but was well worth a try and I'm sure I'll pick it up again at some point.

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Photo of WillieThreebiers
4.2/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pours a dirty straw yellow with a two finger head that dissapstes slowly and leave nice lacing. Mildly dank citrus aroma. Tart gratefruity flavor. Thoroughly enjoyable.

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Progenitor from Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project
4.18 out of 5 based on 337 ratings.
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