Progenitor | Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project
Colorado, United States
crookedstave.com

Style: American Wild Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Dry hopped golden sour ale.

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#3,315
Reviews:
64
Ratings:
364
pDev:
5.53%
 
 
Wants:
16
Gots:
58
Trade:
4
 
User Reviews & Ratings
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Reviews: 64 | Ratings: 364
Photo of Slatetank
4.24/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

I tried this on Christmas '15, enjoyed from a glass, shared with tenderbranson69

the color is dark golden -clear at first but some particulate either yeast or hops creates a haze beneath the white head with wavy lace stickage. The smell is very herbal with hops apparent in the aroma with light brettanomyces ester and gentle tropical fruity quality. The feel brings a lot of bretty dry and herbal textures with moderate acidity and medium carbonation with semi-dry finis and resinous hop affect.

The taste is good with tangy fruity and slightly herbal mix of flavor with tropical taste from the wild yeast and slight earthy light flavor of pineapple with mild tart dry juicy type taste with subtle tangy citrus flavor in the back with herbal flavor continuing into the slight spicy finish which is dry. Overall I found this to be an above average wild ale, not exactly sour more a hybrid hopped brett beer with herbal and tropical flavors

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Photo of Jmamay22
3.62/5  rDev -13%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a golden yellow with mild chill haze. Off white head fades quickly to a thin bead. The scent is fruity with some funky Brett impact. Mild bandaid type of medicinal scent. Flavor consists of apricot with lactic tartness. In the finish the mildly phenolic bandaid comes through which detracts from the beer.

Lively spritzy carbonation that gives a creamy mouthfeel. Medium bitterness lingers. Nice beer and interesting.

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Photo of AppaZappa
4.27/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured nice rich golden color with white head and nice lacing. Smell is citrus, lemon, apricot, hops and funk. Taste is very similar: a sour apricot dominates. Feel is light and crisp. An excellent beer!

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Photo of DefenCorps
4.24/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

On tap at Apex last night.

Clear light orange with dense white head, this looks nice. Nose is fresh hops, citrusy, chalky ,mineraly, nice lemon and lactic notes. White peach, nectarines and a smooth vinous character is present. The palate opens tart, clean and with a blend of stone fruit, honey, citrus and some vanilla, oak and wheat. Drying finish, mildly hoppy, grassy and with nice citrus flavors. Some white wine character is present as well. Excellent

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.24/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Crisp, clean, dry and tantalizingly refreshing, Crooked Stave steps away from the usual and strict brettanomyces influences and teases the palate with a sharper, fruitier and more piercing sour taste that gains inspiration from berlinerweiss and gose.

Pale straw and hazy, its canary-yellow color is beautifully bright despite its modest clouding. Jaw-tightening perfumes of tangy tropical fruit, citrus and vinous chardonnay tingle the nose while its early taste is supple with fresh baking bread and dough.

And as its sour brunt pokes and prods at the tongue, its refreshing dry fruit flavors whet the mouth and come alive with dry white wine and a pep of clean cider and vinegar. But its the fruit that steals the show- passionfruit, melon, lime, lemon, kiwi, green grape and apple. Trending sour, sharp and highly piquant, the beer's crisp lemon, lime, and musty balsa frame its finish.

Light and airy, the beer's texture is vinous, citrusy-bitter, acidic and dry to ensure a high rate of palatability. Trailing tropical fruit is short and sour with a quick wheaten, burlap aftertaste.

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Photo of Dope
4.06/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

December 2014 bottling date.

A: A slightly hazy, pale golden pour. Fizzy mid-sized light tan head. Small bits of lacing and halfway decent retention.

S: Big juicy/tart aroma. Loads of oranges, lemons and melons.

T: Whoa. Huge mouth-puckering blast of sour lemons. Light melon in the background. Packs the punch of a sour warhead, literally made me cringe in surprise. Hints of grass and crackers but mostly it's that sour lemon flavor from start to finish. Finish is quick, crisp and refreshing.

M: Medium bodied, very sour and crisp.

O: One hell of a mouth-pucker...er? Extremely sour, obliterating everything in its path. Not bad!

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Photo of ThickNStout
4.3/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

375mL bottle from Hop City (Atlanta, GA). 9.99. Bottled July 2015. Served in a Toppling Goliath teku.

Pours a cloudy, pale, peach hued yellow with almost four full fingers of fluffy white head. That robust froth eventually settles to a splotchy collar, leaving only a few narrow clouds of lace.

Smells funky and tropical with a good deal of Bretty complexity, some pineapple, earthy vegetation, marmalade and faint cracker. Lemons and grapefruit come through as the refrigerated chill subsides.

Strongly sour, bitter grapefruit flavors initially. Pineapple, earthy wild yeast, sugar cane, Granny Smith apples, vague spices- slightly clove-like and a dash of pepper and lemon muffins. At once both sour and funky. Not overtly hoppy but there is a lot of tropical fruit. Goes down incredibly easily.

Medium light feel with lively, abundant carbonation. The aftertaste blend ls lemon pie, pineapple and marmalade all with a healthy dose of earthen funk.

Complex and enticing, Crooked Stave's Progenitor is a tasty mash up of tropical with both sour and funky elements. A tad too pricey to consume regularly but was well worth a try and I'm sure I'll pick it up again at some point.

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Photo of WillieThreebiers
4.2/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pours a dirty straw yellow with a two finger head that dissapstes slowly and leave nice lacing. Mildly dank citrus aroma. Tart gratefruity flavor. Thoroughly enjoyable.

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Photo of snaotheus
4.16/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

2015-11-06
375ml bottle served in a little sampler. Date on the bottle says December 2014.

Pours clear golden with a medium head that retains extremely well. Not much carbonation. Smell is very tart, definitely fruity, maybe apricot or something similar.

Taste is nice -- tart and fruity, more of the apricottiness. Nice sweet-tartness about it, too.

Mouthfeel is velvet and lovely. Maybe it's fading a bit in my memory, but it reminds me of Cantillon in this regard.

Overall, very good. I like it.

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Photo of Stolenface1
4.38/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Pours a bright orange/golden color and is slightly hazy into a CS Tulip. Slight but creamy, barely off white head dissipates somewhat quickly with some lacing. Nose is of mostly of hops.. lemon, guava, pear, mango, pine, stone fruit, but there is some very slight farm in the the background. The taste is complex, with lemon, grapefruit, guava, mango, malt, and a touch of tangelo and funk on the finish ... This beer gets really delicious when it warms up. Do not drink this really cold! Its not extremely tart, but perfectly balanced with everything else that is going on with this beer... the illusion of bitterness and wonderful aroma from the dry hopping just sets it off. Most likely Citra. Really like the funk on the finish. Mouthfeel is medium and almost has a
creamy-ness to it. Probably some oats in there. Overall highly recommended.

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Photo of zonker17
4.35/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Golden clear pour with minimal head. Heavy sediment in bottle wads not poured into glass. Wonderful hops aroma. Fruity esters and a slight sourness. Carbonation is low.

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Photo of Prager62
4.12/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up on a recent trip to Colorado. The bottle date is June 2015, poured into a 12oz. tulip glass.

Pours a hazy but brilliant gold with a generous finger of lively, soapy white foam.

Smell- Acidic vinegar, barnyard funk, lemon drops in the back.

Taste- Starts acidic and sour. It then turns towards lemon zest with some hop spiciness in the finish.

Feel- Mouth puckering, but not over the top. A pleasant tingle going down with a slick and refreshing finish.

Overall- A very complex beer with flavors that waft between sour funk and citric fruit. A nice hop presence still in the back despite its age. A tasty and refreshing beer that I'd gladly drink again.

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Photo of Moose90
4.14/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Served On-Tap, Release #3 if it matters.

A — Pours a lightly hazy bright orange hue into the glass, there is a nice and puffy white colored head on it that leaves some nice lacing behind it.

S — Smells of bitter hops, piney and pungent, balanced with a lemony and lacto sharpness as well.

T — Tastes quite light initially, but as it warms there is a nice balance shown between pine, lemon, grapefruit, citrus, yeast, and a light oak presence as well.

M — Medium bodied, there is a nice bubbly crispness and it leaves a nice lingering finish.

O — Very nicely done overall, not overly sharp or tart but it is a nice brett beer.

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Photo of mdfb79
4.29/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

From 09/19/15 notes. 10oz. pour at Fool's Gold in NYC during Zwanze Day.

Pours a hazy golden color with one inch of white head and moderate carbonation evident. Very good; tons of brett, oranges, citrus hops, and fruity malts. Some bready malts too. Light body and low carbonation, super drinkable.

Overall very good; very drinkable and refreshing.

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Photo of Rimbimhoot
4.55/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Crooked Stave snifter

A: Golden yellow with a slight haze. Thin white head
S: Sweet mango, ripe peach, pineapple, apricot, tangerine, earthy Brett, juicy fruit gum
T: Mango, passion fruit, peach, apricot, earthy Brett, funk, pear, light sour, acidic at end, bitter, lemon, grapefruit
M: Light and fluffy
O: Holy crap this thing surprised me. Definitely a top 3 beer Crooked Stave beer for me. So many flavors that are very well integrated together. Had no expectations on this one. I haven't had many dry hopped sours but I know this stands well above Le Terroir for me

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Photo of rudzud
4.11/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Received as an extra in a trade. March 2015 bottle

A - Poured into my Duvel tulip a nice dark brown hue with a thin one finger off white head that fades slowly to leave light lacing and a thin blanket with fluffier halo.

S - Aromas of light hay, softer lightly sweet malts, nice funk and brett, lemons, biscuits, light white wine/vinous notes, little bit of apples and dark roast, nice mustiness too.

T - Taste is similar to the nose. Lots of almost lacto and brett funk, biscuits, lemons, apple skin, soft oak barrels, white wine. Lemons pop on the finish along with a fair amount of mustiness. Finish is lightly flemmy.

M - Mouthfeel is lightly carbonated, lightly sticky.

O - Overall this was a solid dark sour from Crooked Stave. Nice funk notes here without being over the top.

Serving Type: Bottle

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Photo of SABERG
4.16/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle dated June 2015 into a modified tulip glass.
A - Sun at 2 pm on a clear day, bright gold, colored. Busy trains of tiny carbonation relentlessly feed a thick snow white cap of endless froth.
S - Warm hay, lemongrass, biscuit, Brett edges, hints of pine, tons of tropical fruit. Orange Marmalade adds to the overwhelming parade of aromatics.
T - Stunning explosion of flavor, hop use without being oily, sour base provides the backbone supporting a smorgasbord of flavors, lemongrass, rosemary, orange peel, white tea, ash rime and that Brett.
M - Full palate coating, offers a quick retreat, flavors crash through, mix it up and run out the door. Surprising how quick the transitions are, big and bold then lightly sweet, then tart and then ashen dry with a slightly sour linger.
O - A stunning display of craft, sour without puckering, hoppy without palate wrecking. A delightfully delicate offering worth seeking out.

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Photo of bobv
4.27/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Revisit Review:
Smell rating increased from 4.25 to 4.5.
Moderate pour yields a huge white head over a light golden body with some lacing. Nose, oh yeah, the nose is really nice. Tropical fruit, candied pineapple, a bit of minerality and some citrus. Tastes very nice with a perfect sourness. Nice feel and overall another job well done!

I'm not sure why this is listed as retired because our store just received this last week in Vermont.

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Photo of Tone
4.32/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pours a hazy, gold color. 1/3 inch head of white color. Great retention and great lacing. Smells of bacterial funk, pale malt, hops, slight alcohol, grass, and slight earthy malt. Fits the style of an American wild ale. Mouth feel is sharp and crisp, with a high carbonation level. Tastes of strong bacterial funk, pale malt, alcohol, yeast, hops, earthy malt, grass, and slight citrus. Overall, another great beer from crooked stave!

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Photo of Benish
4.42/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: very bright non-translucent peach color. A nice size white head built while pouring and maintained for a while before dissipating. Lacings around the glass.

Aroma: straight up hops. Dominantly pine and notes of mango and kiwi. Also a little bit of barnyard character. It's outstanding. Not complex but very aromatic.

Taste: Wow! The hops and sour intermingled together. This is really what it is. The sour overshadows the bitterness. It starts sweet with strong notes of tropical fruits and some citrus. The sourness kickes in and finishes quickly with notes of bittering hops. Overall this beer is very lush and sweet. I like it!

Mouthfeel: light bodied and refreshing.

Overall: this is very good. I really appreciate how the hops shone through in a golden sour ale. I recommend this!

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Photo of Taybeh
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

From a single into a Duvel tulip
a: very hazy golden pear, big foamy 3 finger white head leaving nice lacing
s: mildly funky brett to start off, some hay and bread, sweet orchard fruit (pear, apple), some blossomy flowery sweetness too
t: like the nose but more tartness that comes in on the back. The brett isn't all that powerful, but it integrates with everything else really well.

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Photo of ClavisAurea
3.94/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

May 2015 bottle served cold in a tulip glass.

Appearance: cloudy and light amberish yellow. Nice head of foam and lacing. Poured fairly thin but it is a thin beer.

Nose: funky, lemony, hay, tart, hop forward from the dry hopping

Taste: bright and acidic, sharp tartness, lemons, slight bitterness, juicy citrus

Great golden sour. I was trying this with a friend who had never had a sour before. His face was priceless and I really should have taken a picture.

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Photo of dd43
4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Very appealing slightly hazy gold in color, head formed easily but receded in short order.

A fairly hoppy beer for a sour ale. Totally delicious and worth seeking out. I really enjoyed the funky aroma mixed with the tart crisp mouthfeel and the hoppy finish. Flavors were in the lemon and tart green apple realm. Would love to to know the yeast strains used for this beer. It has some Brett qualities but lacked the voluminous rocky head that is often a Brett beer's signature.

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Photo of Franziskaner
4.09/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Golden colored and murky in complexion. Light penetration is minimal. I smell Brett and pungent floral hops. I taste floral hops and Brett. There's different levels and notes of bitterness from the floral hops and Brett. The carbonation is moderate. The mouth is otherwise crisp and light with a light stickiness.

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Photo of blindtiger24
4.3/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Listed as a dry-hopped golden sour. Golden, apple juice color. Stinky and citrus hop aromas on the nose. A lot more body than other CS sours. A slight tinge of wild yeast but mellows into a sticky hop flavor and even a bit of malt sweetness. Manages to be crisp but not light. The aromas really jump out. Compared to the Hop Savant series, this actually let's the hops stand out rather than hide in the background. Great choice if you don't want to go straight sour.

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Progenitor from Crooked Stave Artisan Beer Project
Beer rating: 4.16 out of 5 with 364 ratings