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Temptress Chocolate Porter | Holgate Brewhouse / Keatings Hotel

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Holgate Brewhouse / Keatings Hotel
Australia
holgatebrewhouse.com

Style: American Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.00%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by brendan13 on 08-12-2008

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pDev:
12.37%
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Photo of Jeffo
2.24/5  rDev -39.8%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Brew from BobbyHeenan. Cheers!

From a bottle into a snifter
Brewed with Dutch cocoa and vanilla beans

APPEARANCE: Clear brown pour produces a one finger, loose, crackly, cream colored head with lousy retention. Head quickly fizzes down to nothing really. Looks flat rather quickly. Clear dark brown body with no carbonation. Finishes flat.

SMELL: Dark malts, chocolate malt, light vanilla and caramel on the nose. Cocoa and sweet creamy as well. Bold enough.

TASTE: Quite empty really. Not much up front at all. Light cocoa perhaps but that's reaching perhaps. Some light chocolate, burnt malts and a touch of sweet cream lingers after the swallow. Slightly metallic finish isn't all that enjoyable. A plastic, metallic flavor accompanied by stale chocolate lingers and lingers long after the swallow.

PALATE: Thinner body and higher levels of carbonation. Bubbly on the palate, goes down airy and finishes slightly sticky. Too light and bubbly, unfortunately.

OVERALL: Not my cup of tea. The look was rather lousy, while the metallic, plastic, artificial and stale chocolate didn't really do it for me either. The thin and bubbly body didn't help the situation either. Thanks again for the box Bobby. They can't all be winners.

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Photo of heygeebee
2.83/5  rDev -23.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Pours one finger head - with a Godalmighty high pour! Dissapears quickly, little lacing.

Aromas of - not much - sad.

Taste is quite restrained - some chocolate, malts, a little bitterness and ashtray - but not a huge amount, understated all round. Where is the sweetness?

Mouthfeel is quite light. With a 6% ABV I would have expected more warmth, but no.

Overall OK - not quite what I was expecting from an 'Aus top beer'... tho did improve as it warmed.

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Photo of Toffman
2.93/5  rDev -21.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

On tap at the Local Taphouse St Kilda - Feb 2012

Pours a very dark brown with a very enticing, creamy-chocolate head.

Straight up I get the prominent coffee and dark(bitter) chocolate notes. Dark malt is king in this wiff. I don't get any of the advertised vanilla.There is a dark fruit hint as the beer warms - prunes/raisin.

Initial taste is not promising, Hops take an expected back seat in this beer, leaving the bitterness to do its thing in a restrained way - though it does linger in the aftertaste. Possibly too much on the IBUs in this take. As it warms, it almost becomes too much.

Coffee and chocolate notes are back in the taste but extremely restrained. All of the above smacked with a shovel by the absolute thinness in mouthfeel! The more I drink the more I am distracted by the extremely thin, almost watery quality about the beer. By the last mouthful, there is bare minimum flavour and plenty of lip smacking to clear the palate.

Overall, not a fan of this particular beer. Whether it was a conscious decision to create a thin beer, I won't know. But it seems they went out intending to create a lucious chocolate porter, and a dark-malt flavoured light beer came out the other end. Disappointing considering the ABV.

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Photo of kojevergas
2.95/5  rDev -20.7%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Regrettably brief review for a 330ml bottle purchased at Beer Lab in Chiang Mai, Thailand for 290 baht.

6.0% ABV. "Infused with Dutch cocoa and whole vanilla beans." OG 1.058. IBU 31. EBC 60.

A: Khaki head is thin but longlasting, retaining for 7 minutes. Body is a deep dark ruby-black.

Sm: Vanilla, dark malts, chocolate malts, sweet moist bread, malty sweetness.

Unfortunately, the vanilla isn't particularly deep or expressive, and doesn't come off particularly genuine.

A subdued aroma that indicates a shallow but balanced chocolate porter.

T: Yup - shallow across the board, with a heavy chocolate malt presence, ample dark malt sweetness, and some faint vanilla with an artificial bend. If I tried this in a blind tasting, I'd figure it was brewed by Rogue.

Contrary to the label, I find no coffee or caramel character.

Not imbalanced even if it does tug towards the sweeter end of the spectrum.

Shallow, simple, enjoyable.

Mf: Smooth, medium-bodied, wet, approachable. Not oily, gushed, hot, boozy, astringent, harsh, rough, or scratchy.

O: A mediocre stab at a chocolate porter that goes after nothing more than satisfaction of basic style conventions, Temptress is a shallow simple brew with meagre ambitions - and frankly, it's far from tempting.

C (2.95) / AVERAGE

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Photo of Kroehny_Loves_Hops
3/5  rDev -19.4%

Photo of pin
3/5  rDev -19.4%

Photo of Stew41
3/5  rDev -19.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

It’s good to drink a chocolate-based beer that actually has a fair whack of chocolate character running through the palate. Dark chocolate kicks in very nicely, particularly in the back palate, but does need to fit a little against some fizz and an otherwise non descript porter base beer. No doubt will appeal to the ladies!

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Photo of bylerteck
3.05/5  rDev -18%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottle from Beer Deluxe. Hope this goes better than tap.

A - Pours black with a two finger khaki head. Good carbonation coming up. Spotty lace and a film of retention.

S - A bit of roast with a good amount of chocolate.

T - Roasty, burnt toast, dark chocolate is mild and some coffee. Not nearly as much chocolate as you'd expect. It's there but not so strong.

M - Good carbonation, medium body and a mildly chocolatey finish.

O/D - I don't buy into this beer's hype at all. Whatever chocolate they want to come out here clearly isn't working for them. Not bad, but certainly what you'd expect.

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Photo of rjimlad
3.1/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

On tap in a pint glass. Good colour, creamy tan head. Not much aroma.
Flavour is toasty malt, roast beef, cocoa chocolate. Some pumpernickel breadiness as well. Not overly complex. Enjoyable but nit overky interesting.

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Photo of Dhamma73
3.34/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of SmashPants
3.38/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: quality solid brown 330mL bottle, typically funky Holgate label - I like it.

Appearance: the body is quite thick, very dark brown leading to black. A very thin tan head hangs about for quite a time. Nice.

Aroma: heavy cocoa, roast coffee and some sweet chocolate on the nose. A reasonably rich aroma for a porter, which is a nice change. There's some more light fruit over the top - grapes or cherry.

Taste: heavy chocolate up front, with heavy fruits backing up and a definite cocoa-and-coffee bitterness over the top. The only problem I can see is that the flavour is not very strong at all, if anything it seems too demure - a bit wishy-washy almost.

Aftertaste: that coffee bitterness hangs about, but not much else. Not a great aftertaste.

Mouth feel: quite solid and creamy in body with lower to moderate carbonation. Helps the beer slide down nicely.

Overall: not a bad beer at all - at least it's well made and has all the right flavours across the profile. It is very coffee though which is not my thing, and a little demure. Too expensive at full price - AU$110 a case of 24 (2013).

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Photo of doktorhops
3.42/5  rDev -8.1%

Holgate, those likeable chaps from Mount Macedon 69 clicks out of Melbourne (the Victorian variety), are a decent craft brewer from my previous forays into their Road Trip and Hopinator, that seem to be chasing a craft style that is a touch American (i.e. well-hopped brews) with a hint of Aussie (i.e. let’s not overdo it as Australians can’t handle big hops). I appreciate what they bring to the table whilst at the same time wishing they didn’t pander to the MCM - Mass Craft Market: My term for people getting into craft brews because of (its now) immense popularity but who also can’t handle a beer with hops, so they seek a faux-hopped beer to look cool and wax lyrical over how “impressive” and “fruity” the hops are in said beer... Wow, am I now a beer snob? Nah!

Poured from tap into a 425ml Schooner.

A: Clear cola body with a half centimetre tan head. Not bad, not terrific, not qu'est-ce que c'est - average, sorta better than. 6/10.

S: Notes of milk/dark chocolate with a hint of roasted coffee, vanilla extract and an odd (for a Porter) floral hop note lingering in the background. Not as chocolaty as it should be with a name like “Chocolate Porter”, I’ve smelt more chocolate in a hardback copy of Roald Dahl’s Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. 6/10.

T: Here we go: Some bold chocolate upfront, with hints of the above (coffee, vanilla) and a slight bitter floral hop finish. Tasty and moreish. Although that floral hop finish is still quite distracting for the style... I’ll forgive it just this once. 7/10.

M: Nice and medium bodied with a light but dense carbonation. Again tap beers do benefit greatly over bottles in the mouthfeel. 8/10.

D: It is overall a solid and tasty Porter. Interesting hop finish given the style but I say it works well in presenting the taste buds with something different. The ABV at 6% is intriguing as it doesn’t feel any more than a 4 or 5% brew so they’ve hidden that well. Temptress is classic Holgate territory, they generally put together a solid brew without any muss, they aren’t quite as good as Feral or Little Creatures, or my new fav HopDog though so I really don’t go out of my way to buy their brews. 7/10.

Food match: Something gooey, chocolaty and beefy - how about a stew with chocolate, beef and a hint of chilli (because you need to add chilli to chocolate these days, it’s a rule).

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Photo of mulder1010
3.45/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

330 ML poured into a tulip Bottled 12/14/09

A-- Poured a dark cola color and settled black with small tints of red on the bottom and sides of the glass. One finger brown sugar head that quickly falls off. On swirling get a two finger head that quickly fades to film. No lacing. Looks more carbonated than it should but also very typical of Aussie porters and stouts to be more carbonated.

S-- Sweet chocolate brownie. A little bit of cherry and thin in spots but a lot of chocolate and baking chocolate.

T-- Very carbonated in the taste. Light and a lot of chocolate. Not thick and chewy at all in the taste. Chocolate, cherry, baking chocolate, and a malt. More of a chocolate cherry brownie to me.

M-- Has a lot of the classic porter tastes but thinner and more carbonated. More suited to this climate and the milder winters. Light feel but captures what a porter should be but higher carbonation. Chewy in spots and not in others. Has a few gaps of thinness to this but nothing wrong with it.

D-- Drinkable due to the lightness of it. A porter you can drink year round here. ABV is well hidden and get what is right in porters but just a bit toned down. Not bad but different. Could use a touch less carbonation though. Otherwise solid beer.

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Photo of Oidmoe
3.46/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of Mendicant
3.5/5  rDev -5.9%

Photo of Gasc0igne
3.5/5  rDev -5.9%

Photo of bcm75
3.6/5  rDev -3.2%

Photo of WoodBrew
3.62/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

The Temptress is ok. Trying it at the Sail & Anchor in Freo. It poured an opaque dark with white head that is leaving a lace. The scent had waifs of chocolate and coffee. The taste followed the scent with some vanilla added in. The Mouthfeel was lighter in body with smooth carbonation. Overall it's ok certainly worth a try.

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Photo of CrazyDavros
3.62/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Very dark copper pour with a moderately sized tan head that slowly fades.
Aroma consists of mil chocolate, roasted malt, sultanas and just a hint of vanilla (it merges with the chocolate).
Loads of chocolate grain evident upon tasting: lots of nutty and toasty note with a hint of roasted grain but little of the roasty bitterness. Some light chocolate is apparent.
Good medium body, I would have liked it to be richer/creamier.

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Photo of Mosant
3.63/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

I had a 330ml bottle bottle. This beer won a silver medal in the Craft Beer Industry of Australia 2014 Craft Beer Awards in the 3B category of robust porter.
Appearance: very nice dark brown chocolate colour. Good tan head.
Aroma: immediate chocolate aroma present straight out of the bottle. I was doing a comparison tasting of this with the Hargreaves stout which was clearly at the coffee end of the spectrum and this beer is well and truly at the chocolate end.
Flavour: smooth to drink, chocolate flavours continue on the palate. Hint of vanilla as brewer infuse vanilla bean in the brew. Medium mouthfeel and some creaminess present more than moderate carbonation but not high fizz. Middle palate has some sweetness probably from infused Dutch chocolate. Not much bitterness in the finish which suits the flavour and sweetness well.
Overall: very nice chocolate porter. Enjoyed it. Worth a try.

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Photo of joecast
3.67/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottled on 3/11/10. Is that the Australian date formate meaning four weeks ago? Impressive if so.

Blackish with slight red highlights and a foamy tan head. Could easily pass for a stout here. Low carbonation. Decent head retention.

Chocolate dominates the aroma. Not in a sweet candy way though. Sort of a toned down youngs dcs which is a good thing to me. No hops to hint at it's beefiness, but there is some maltiness there. A bit of roast, just enough to offset the rest which is nice.

Really wanted this to work better. In it's favor though it seems to be extremely difficult to balance chocolate in any form (other than chocolate malt) and still leave a drinkable, balanced beer.
Here the chocolate flavor is certainly a big factor and just crosses into having a slight artificial aspect to it. Maybe a big IS can get away with it, but here where the chocolate is the focus it has little to hide behind. There is a good amount of porter maltiness and enough bitterness for balance but for a relatively light 6% beer, I can't ignore that artificialness.

Getting past that, the mouthfeel is really spot on. And as for drinkability I could go one more as the finish is light and dry enough. But would struggle to do more than a pint.
Overall it's a great effort for a chocolate beer. Give me the base porter and this could be a seriously good beer.

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Photo of Everydayoff
3.67/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

330ml bottle poured into a pint glass.

Very deep brown to almost black in color, the pour builds up thick creamy tan head that well retains itself with very good retention before slowly collapsing to an eternal foamy crown and leaving lots of lacing on the glass-side.

In a nose, mild chocolate, some cocoa, some roasted coffee, vanilla, caramel, burnt bread, and creaminess, all from malt.

The taste is led by roasted coffee with some sourness at time. Then it is subtle chocolate, a bit cocoa, vanilla, caramel, burnt bread, as well as some sweetness and smoothness, again all from malt. There is moderate bitterness at the end which is mostly derived from roasted malt and partially from hop.

Medium body with quite smooth mouthfeel and moderate carbonation through the palate, the feeling is a bit crisp with a dry finish.

Pretty good Porter with lots of roasted profile, it is not that much creamy or rich in chocolate as it advertised but tends to balance between the various kinds of malt.

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Photo of BCurious
3.69/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thin tan head. Dark brown verging on black body. Cocoa and vanilla evident, but less desserty and more bitter than expected. Would prefer a creamier mouthfeel. Expected a cocoa latte and got a long macchiato.

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Photo of biboergosum
3.7/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

330ml bottle. Winter is here, it's cold, but not that cold, so, well, oh, what the hell...

This beer pours a clear, very dark amber cola hue, with two fingers of foamy, somewhat creamy beige head, which leaves a low ebbing wall of painted lace around the glass as it rather quickly sinks away.

It smells prominently of medium chocolate, edgy vanilla, some wavering nuttiness that is, and isn't, hazelnut, some almost unnoticed roasted caramel malt notes, and relatively mild fruity, earthy hops. The taste is decent powdered cocoa, blended with a more sedate vanilla bean essence, lightly toasted caramel malt, some quite understated fruity cherry notes, a taunting, weak sourness, and tame earthy, leafy hops.

The carbonation is fairly subdued, though hardly absent, the body an adequate medium weight, with caveats of thinning here and there, with a suitable lulling smoothness for the style. It finishes on the sweet side, the cocoa, now astringent vanilla, and slightly weird fruitiness facing little in terms of opposition.

An enjoyable enough brew, though I'm not getting much to qualify this as American in style, and what I do get for the London side is just a bit too ethereal in which to place belief. Whatever, this Aussie offering is doing well enough all on its own - though I do wonder what they would consider 'winter' conditions over there...

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Photo of Ajax85
3.7/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

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Temptress Chocolate Porter from Holgate Brewhouse / Keatings Hotel
Beer rating: 3.72 out of 5 with 57 ratings
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