Far West Vlaming
Logsdon Farmhouse Ales

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Sour - Flanders Red Ale
Ranked #94
Ranked #18,369
3.89 | pDev: 8.74%
Logsdon Farmhouse Ales
Washington, United States
Very Good
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Notes: Our organic red ale is brewed in traditional West Flanders style. A combination of light, crystal, and dark barley malt, wheat, and oats are brewed with local whole-cone hops and a variety of select yeast and lactic bacteria. We age our red ale in oak barrels for a period of time to develop complex richness, soft tannins, and fruity tart character. The aged beer is then blended with young beer to create the desired balance of malt sweetness with a dry finish.
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emerge077 from Illinois

4.02/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark reddish chestnut tone, ample foam but no lace.
Mild funk and lactic acidity in the aroma, musty wet barrel.

Tart and acidic, lactic acid and cherry skins, light oak in the dry aftertaste.
There is some character from the malt, wheat, and oats used, though the acidity sort of obscures it. Touch of bell pepper, apple butter, cider vinegar.
Medium bodied, flavors fade fairly quickly due to the prevalent lactic acid scrub. Ample carb, everything is in order style-wise.

It’s decent, and probably more historically authentic than most sugar-addled Belgian examples these days. Worth a try if you’re a big Flemish Red fan, otherwise it’s not essential.

Apr 04, 2019
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chinchill from South Carolina

4.12/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

On tap at the pour Taproom in Greenville, SC.
Reddish brown body with a fine textured beige head. Good retention.
Excellent, style-consistent, aroma and flavor. Moderately tart. Relatively clean for style with nice ad wood notes and hints of soft ripe fruits.

Sep 02, 2017
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Phil-Fresh from California

4.14/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

A: Rich caramel malts, slightly sweet, with baked cherries, slight earthiness, tart, with light vanilla and wood.

A: Brown color with a copper hue, with a thin slightly uneven off white head that has adequate retention.

T: Complex caramel malts, moderately light baked cherries, slight malt sweetness, lingering tartness with light oak and dry finish.

M: Medium bodied with moderate carbonation and slightly smooth mouthfeel.

O: Solid; the beer has a great rich malt aroma and flavors that complement the cherry and stone-fruit character. Fairly complex and tasty.

Jun 13, 2017
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biboergosum from Canada (AB)

3.79/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

750ml thin wax-capped bottle, shared by a good beer-drinking bud! Is 'Vlaming' meant to translate to 'Flanders' here?

This beer pours a clear, dark orange-brick brown colour, with three fingers of puffy, finely foamy, and somewhat creamy ecru head, which leaves some undulated ice shelf profile lace around the glass as it slowly melts away.

It smells of bready and doughy caramel malt, toasted wet wood with vanilla and red wine undertones, a bit of musty yeastiness, some cherry and raspberry tart fruitiness, and very tame leafy, weedy, and floral green hop bitters. The taste is sour red wine vinegar, gritty and grainy caramel malt, some musty and vanilla-heavy woodiness, complex and thankfully understated yeasty notes, and more weak leafy, musty, and dead floral verdant hoppiness.

The carbonation is fairly mild in its quotidian frothiness, the body a so-so medium weight, and sort of smooth, as the tartness does its best to not be too much of a dick around here. It finishes off-dry, a nice lingering caramel malt watching all the fruity, sour, and robust woodsy kids flit and frolic about, before calling them in for bedtime.

Overall, this is a decently rendered version of the style, lots of care and attention obviously expended on making this one appear to be the real deal. In the end, they generally succeed, if in a New World, earnestness being the best attribute, sort of way.

Mar 10, 2017
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MadScientist from New York

4.08/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A medium copper beer with a touch of haze and a long lasting, rocky head made of tan bubbles.

The aroma and flavor are dominated by red currents and a low peppercorn-like phenol. There is a firm tartness and a moderate caramel malt sweetness making for a relatively tart balance. There is a hint of oak, a very slight must and, a faint metallic character that shows more as it warms.

Overall this is a lively and exceptionally good Flemish Red.

Jul 02, 2016
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REVZEB from Illinois

3.55/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Excited because I love the brewer and the style, but boy did this disappoint. From the pour the tan head was humungous atop the reddish copper body. Smell doesn't give a lot of intensity but do get sour cherry and dark fruit gummies and vinegar. Taste is almost bready more than it is sour, dark fruit stronger than cherry, just not proper but more importantly not interesting. Feel is bready, frothy, thick, and has a sour kiss but that doesn't cut it for style. A miss that isn't bad just bland as all get out, can't have that when verging from tradition on these old world styles

Apr 06, 2016
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Tommo from Texas

4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Overall this is a nice beer, but very tame especially from this brewery. Mildly tart, with good flanders notes, but very subdued to the overall brett character that dominates. Would buy if cheap

Apr 01, 2016
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DefenCorps from Oregon

4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at The Beermongers.

A deep brownish red with a dense, light brown head with good retention and lacing, this looks solid. The nose has red wine vinegar, vanilla, caramel, a little toffee, some black and sour cherries, just a classic Flemish red. The palate is meaty, hefty, with some cherries, earth, barrel, caramel, toffee, vanilla, with the cherries, vanilla and vinegar lingering on into the finish. Deep, layered and delicious.

Dec 22, 2015
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Smakawhat from Maryland

4.24/5  rDev +9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle into a tulip glass. Bottle No. 9747, best by September 2019.

What a great looking brew. Slight very minor suds and gush on opening, one of my favorite signs. Deep copper, a shiny almost ruby to brown glow mixing with it. Slightly clear, just enough to see a good middle column of plentiful carbonation rise through the glass. Settles to a perfect two millimeter puck, with a bit of snapping carbonation out of the bottle, and a frothy billowing but small two finger head. Real excellent mix of body color, almost an oud bruine and Flanders red hybrid sort, with a fantastic dark brown to Indian red glow. Fantastic looking beer.

Excellent diverse and complex aroma. Hints of toasty wood, mild caramel, a mixture of tart like cherry and raspberry fruit meddling. Sweet tones come off like vanilla and mild milk chocolate. Purple grape like aromas but a much softer sense, a controlled buttery like caramel kicks in as well. Wow this is exquisite friggin stuff! Some sensations don't quite get the play, it seems to take some digging, but oh what fun it is. Near perfection going on here.

Well, hard to come down to this level after all that. Very light bodied but decent, but doesn't quite carry the oak aging and malts with a bigger rounder feel and thickness. Decent amounts of very light toffee, and quality but subdued fruit character. Mild cherry and wood tones, almost with a powdery sense. Carbonation comes in a little prickly, slightly off setting as well, perhaps popping out some of the chocolate qualities too interestingly enough.

Overall a real winner from Logsdon, but it's such a downer that the flavors and feel don't match up to the stunning appearance and bouquet.

Sep 18, 2015
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maximum12 from Minnesota

3.67/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to nate321, who doesn’t appear to be around any more, for this long-stored bottle. 750ML of rustic-looking bottle split with my wife.
The pour begins before I do, as lava-like foam oozes out the top while the bottle is still upright; a careful pour is necessary to keep the beer within the confines of a 20 oz. glass. Very light red touches the border of orange (orange is the new Flemish red?). The nose is all crushed blackberry & sharp wood – more New Glarus than Vlaming, but nice.
Far West Vlaming - I Googled it & I’m still not sure what the hell a Vlaming is. Inside joke? Evoking vague European woods? Dutch for ‘Flaming’? Nice fruitiness up front – nothing as distinct as the blackberry in the nose, seems melangish – followed quickly by a slash of acidity, tons of sun-bleached wood. Musty red grape & gentle cherry emerge as the beer warms. Watered down a bit, which doesn’t actually impede the taste. This would be a great beer to drink with my feet up on the railing watching the smoker. All day.
A bit gentle & loving for my taste, & I can only imagine how my sour-head friends would rage & froth, spittle flying, at the lack of punch. Me? I like. Pretty good beer.

Sep 01, 2015
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mtomlins from Canada (ON)

3.79/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Big thanks to FondueVoodoo for the bottle!

Poured a hzy brown color with a bubbly, off-white head falling fast with with spots of lacing. The nose is light but featured light fruit (cherries), malt and some acidic tartness. The taste also highlighted tart fruit, sour cherries, acid and some yeast. Light, dry and good carbonation for mouthfeel. This is a decent Flanders but feels like the light version compared to its Belgian counterparts...it just lack...depth. Still tasty and kudos for being an all organic beer/brewery.

Aug 31, 2015
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StonedTrippin from Colorado

4.41/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I love these guys, everything I have had from them has been expert, and this one is delicious too. their take on a flanders red type, I believe a blend of different ages of beer, and props for being organic, very cool. this is hazy brick red in color with a short lived half inch of evaporating tan lace. the smell is amazing, black currant and cherry, dried cranberry even, red wine, and oak. a lot less of the vinegar side of sour is present, instead a much more developed funk and sour in combination, not simply sharp lacto like so many have. the flavor is similarly heavy on the fruits, with the cherry thing leading the way. soft tannins and plenty of body and bubbles on the palate. vanilla and tobacco and dried figs come up a little sweet in the finish, but just for a flash before the yeast dries it all out. funky and woody, and only middle of the sour spectrum, complex and fabulously high quality. I love all the fruit on it, and that its so dry in the finish. a really beautiful beer, one of the liquid highlights of my vacation!

Jul 20, 2015
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metter98 from New York

3.68/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is relatively clear reddish amber in color and has a moderate amount of visible carbonation. It poured with a finger high white head that died down, leaving patches of bubbles on the surface and a collar around the edge of the glass.
S: Light to moderate aromas of sour fruit—cherries seem to stand out in particular—are present in the nose along with some hints of oak.
T: Similar to the smell, the taste is a little sour and has flavors of fruits such as cherries and Concord grapes along with notes of vinegar and hints of oak.
M: It feels a bit more than light-bodied and a little tart on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation. Oaky dryness is present in the finish.
O: This beer seems to be a little lighter in body and mellow in complexity compared to many of the other beers I've had in the style.

Serving type: bottle

Feb 19, 2015
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 from California

3.75/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance – Pours a cloudy reddish brown color with a fair amount of sediment. A very nice head with a light medium lacing.

Smell – Smell is rather mild. Raspberry, cherry, oak, malt, and a light funk.

Taste – Sour brett. Kind of a ‘plain’ flanders red taste. Not as much flavor and fruitiness as I expected from the nose.

Mouthfeel – A light medium body, with light carbonation. Somewhat sour.

Drinkability – The taste fell a little short on this. It’s good, but not one of the top flanders reds in my opinion.

Feb 09, 2015
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laituegonflable from Australia

3.29/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Pours a red colour, deep and inviting. Head is pale beige, actually more white than any other colour. Large bubbles, lace is fairly uneventful. Not bad.

Smells wild, with notes of sour cherry and some blackberry and raspberry. Slight barnyard funk, slight toffeed edge. Very pleasant Bretty beer with fruit aroma.

Taste is very fruity, with a sweet strawberry jam flavour to it. Has the makings of a tart fruity palate early, but it flattens out and gets jammy, sweet and really insipid towards the back. Mild notes of tart wild yeast, but they just get swallowed up and forgotten. In fact everything gets a bit forgotten here, with the biggest notable character in the palate being a big lack of character. Not bad overall, but hugely disappointing.

Bit of pull upfront, but otherwise fluid and quite flat.

I feel like lost in this beer somewhere is a really interesting character that would have added so many dimensions to this flat, flavourless affair. But there's just nothing here, at least any more.

Jul 11, 2014
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scottfrie from California

3.75/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

750ml bottle into snifter. Best by 07/2018.

A: Pours a deep mahogany with an airy and fluffy light brown head that slowly faded into a thick and bubbly collar. Soapy lace was left down the glass.
S: Deep notes of woody oak barrel mix well with tannic cherry skins, red berries, faint lemon and lactic acid, and buttery oak.
T: Not as tart or flavorful as the nose suggested. Cherry skins and brown ale flavors of caramel come through. The finish is lightly sweet and full if woody oak, and the aftertaste is mildly tart and buttery.
M: Medium-light body, fizzy and ample carbonation. Airy, fluffy mouthfeel.
O: Delicious nose but I thought the taste fell short. Not bad overall, but definitely underwhelming.

Jul 01, 2014
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lacqueredmouse from Australia

3.51/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

750ml bottle purchased from K&L Wine Merchants in Redwood City, CA. Brought back to Sydney where I cracked it open with Sam.

Pours with a lovely clear body, but definitely more amber and dull than red and bright. Head forms a fairly fine but carbonated expanse of white that settles down a bit, but still stays fairly frothy and persistent to the death. Lacing forms in coarse streaks. Body is light, but nice. Looks pretty good.

Nose has a slight tilt of acidity to it, but nowhere near what I was expecting. Some mild vinous acidity, perhaps a touch of oak, but fairly mild all up. There's certainly no organic funk, but the acidity is incredibly tame as well, meaning it smells a little weak overall.

Taste is similar. In fact, it may even seem thinner and less exciting. Very weak acidity and a flat body without much complexity leaves it tasting a bit like watered down balsamic. It's clean through the centre, with a tingling vinous character on the back, but there's really not a huge amount going on. It's genuinely disappointing, despite the fact that it's genuinely fairly nice all things considered.

Overall: Logsdon should have a far better Flemish Red than this one. This is thin, weak and lacking complexity and verve. It has some of the basic characters, but just fumbles with them until it produces something really quite pedestrian. C'mon guys, you can do way better, surely.

Jun 21, 2014
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LambicPentameter from Nebraska

3.66/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Enjoyed out of a 750 mL bottle with a crown and neck that has been dipped in what looks like beeswax. Thin and greenish in color. On the side of the bottle, there is a date that indicates this must be consumed before the year 2018. Barely made it! Poured into a Boulevard Smokestack Series tulip glass.

Appearence - Poured slowly to avoid disturbing too much sediment, but am unable to completely keep it out of the beer, with isolated particulate floating around inside the body of the liquid. Said body, however, is a deep cherrywood shade of red, with maroon highlights and a tendency towards the browner side of the spectrum of reddish hues. Atop rests a finger and a half of cream-colored foam that has an active effervescent appearance to it. It dissipates after a few minutes, leaving a healthy ringlet of foam on the edge of the glass and not much in the way of film.

Smell - Out of the glass wafts subtle notes of bing cherry brightness and faint red wine vinegar predominantly. There is also some mustiness from the wood and an impression of wine must, giving the aroma an overall vinous characteristic. Smells like it's going to be pretty tart as well, with sharp acidity poking at my olfactory nerves.

Taste - Sadly, the pinch of sourness that the aroma hinted at has run and hide from my tastebuds. There are many of the same elements that I detected in the aroma, but almost watered down and without that punch that I was hoping for. For those that like their sourness to be subtle, this might be a positive, but for me, it's a tad boring. There is still a nice vinous quality to the taste, with notes of oak tannin and medium but nondescript fruitiness, and there is a slight element of funk that I didn't pick up as much in the nose.

Mouthfeel - Light bodied and moderate carbonation, with just a bit of twinge on the tongue from subtle tartness and a predominantly dry finish.

Overall, an alright beer, but there are at least half a dozen in the style that I'd sooner reach for. I like Logsdon overall, but this one just isn't quite doing it for me. That said, this might be a nice entry-style beer for those who are looking to get into beers in the sour end of the taste spectrum, but would like to take it on gradually.

Jun 20, 2014
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flagmantho from Washington

4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from 750mL bottle into a tulip.

Appearance: rich amber hue with no haze anda finger of frothy ivory foam atop. Quite appropriate for the style.

Smell: sour, caramelly, buttery, and mellow. Not especially fruity, but still pretty nice. The buttery aspect might actually be reflecting the wood-aged nature of the beer, and not an actual diacetyl issue. Overall, it's nice.

Taste: big and sour right up front, with plenty of woodiness and more of that butteriness (again, I'm sure from the wood, and not a diacetyl thing -- though the similarity is striking). Usually I really look for the fruitiness in this style, but in this case the flavor is pretty compelling despite lacking the fruity overtones. I rather like it.

Mouthfeel: medium-light body with a big carbonation and a big, rocky, mouth-filling creaminess. I can dig it.

Overall: a tasty and quite quaffable Flanders red. Sour, but not too sour, with an interesting complexity that, while not mind-blowing, can keep my interest through the bottle. Good stuff!

Mar 25, 2014
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angrybabboon from Massachusetts

3.81/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Split with Goblinmunkey7

Consumed 2/18/14

Appearance: Deep amber, with some brown and dark red hues - hazy and a bit cloudy - pours with a dense, creamy, beige head - keeps a solid cap - leaves some nice streaks of lacing

Smell: Some nice funk and dark fruits - nice level of tart and yeasty funk - not particularly pungent or wild, but it works - some caramel and amber malts - dark fruits, dark berry, berry skin - some light vinegar in the background

Taste: Dark fruits and some tart funk - caramel and amber malts, with a low level of sweetness, mostly dry - some nice yeast, with some wet funk and tartness, lightly lactic and acidic - dark fruits, cherry skins - light sourness, very low level of tart - slightly earthy

Mouthfeel: Medium body, nicely carbonated, smooth, dry finish

Overall: Far West, man

Another nice beer from Logsdon's... surprise! As far as the style goes, this is not particularly tart or funky. It's good, but I think it could be more magical, given the yeast wizardry that this brewery usually demonstrates.

Feb 18, 2014
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Goblinmunkey7 from Massachusetts

3.68/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Big thanks to angrybabboon for sharing the bottle.

Appearance: Deep brick red. Hazed with a lively carbonation. Head is a super pale reddish brown. Drops to a small creamy head with a loose bubbly collar.

Smell: Tart cherry skin. Dark cherry flesh. Tannic with some push of deeper vinous notes. Citric push with a slight lactic component. Distinct Logsdon yeast adds a damp musty earthy aroma. Some dirt and a touch of vinegar. A nicely sweet malt backbone gives some breast and caramelized malt depth. Leafy and herbal.

Taste: Tart cherry juice and vinegar. Push of lactic acid coupled with a slightly acetic and citric bite. Juicy cherry flesh. Vague dark fruit and some hints of red wine. Earthy in good measure, especially as it warms. Damp basement and some musty wet grass and hay. Slightly floral. Malts keep a measured sweetness offering a slightly bready finish. Slightly caramelized. Pushes harder to dirty vinegar as it warms with some tart dark cherry juice.

Mouthfeel: Mediumish body. Nice and smooth on the initial sip leading to a juicy powdery finish. Really odd, but in a good way.

Overall: Hot like fire.

Nice. Not the most complex take on the style but it's a good beer. Balance of tart and sweet.

Feb 18, 2014
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inlimbo77 from Delaware

3.88/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

750ml, enjoy by 7/2018
HF stem

A: Hazy amber color. Full finger of off white or light tan head. Tight bubbled. Leaves some lacing.

S: Tart cherry. Oak. Tannic character. Slight vinegar. Hints of vanilla. Possibly some chocolate nuttiness.

T: Tip of the tongue, nice cherry tartness. Sour cherry. Tannic oak meshes in. Dryness. Getting some vanilla. Some nuttiness. Finish is dry. Lingering cherry.

M: Medium bodied. Good carbonation (for sure).

Feb 05, 2014
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Jonada from New Jersey

3.81/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.75

750ml bottle. Best before July 2018. Served in a wine glass.

Appearance: Pours a typical red brown color with 2 fingers of a light tan head which settles into a medium ring and thin coating. Nice retention and some light spotty lacing. Body is hazy but not opaque. Carbonation looks adequate.

Smell: Tart red apple, red grape, chocolate(?), oak, very slight hint of vinegar. A little different for the style but still good.

Taste: Tart red grape, oak, sour cherry, apple skins. There's the same chocolate presence that was in the aroma as well, which is I've never experienced in this style, but it kinda works. Sourness is low/medium.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied, soft mouthfeel with medium levels of fine carbonation. No alcohol presence, extremely drinkable and quite refresing. Finishes dry but with a light residual sweetness. Really well balanced.

Overall: An interesting take on the style. I enjoyed this, but considering the brewery (which I'm a big fan of), it's a slight disappointment. I'd recommend trying it if you can, but no need to go to great lengths to seek it out.

Jan 30, 2014
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cvm4 from Mississippi

3.64/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A - Has a red mahogany body with a fizzy eggshell colored head. Really no retention to the head.

S - Pungent cherries, oak, a bit musty and light spices.

T - Pretty much follows the nose to me with a slant to more oak and must. It's not as sour as the nose would leave one to believe. The flavor seems a bit "watery" to me, that really leaves the beer just a bit tart to me.

M - Light bodied with medium carbonation. Definitely has a dry finish.

O - It's a good beer, but for the price I was expecting a lot more out of it.

Jan 26, 2014
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jbaker67 from Pennsylvania

3.79/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

dark reddish pour with thin off white head, aroma brought notes of cherry, slight oak, lemon notes, hints of nice red fruits, touch of earthy and lots of spicy notes come through. Taste is a mix of oak, earth, lemon, slight red fruits, touch of vinegar, lots of spice in there, finishing fairly oaky, slightly tart. Decent.

Jan 11, 2014
Far West Vlaming from Logsdon Farmhouse Ales
Beer rating: 88 out of 100 with 253 ratings