17 Mint Chocolate Stout | Perennial Artisan Ales

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17 Mint Chocolate Stout17 Mint Chocolate Stout

Brewed by:
Perennial Artisan Ales
Missouri, United States

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.00%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by birchstick on 03-24-2012

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4/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of TylerJ
4.37/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.25

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3.5/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of sgblobaum
4.35/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

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4.25/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of ilikebeer03
4.44/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

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4/5  rDev +0.3%
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3.73/5  rDev -6.5%
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3.75/5  rDev -6%
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Photo of bibo_ergo_sum
2.01/5  rDev -49.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

If I were blindfolded when I tried Perennial Mint Chocolate Stout, I would have told you I was drinking the bastard offspring of a York Peppermint Patty and a bottle of Listerine. I enjoy peppermint patties and I take pride in my oral health, but this is a case in which the whole is so much worse than its parts. But what is even more upsetting than the insane and offensive taste of this liquid hellspawn is its utter lack of any beer-like qualities. First, there is no carbonation. I understand this is (nominally) a stout but come on, there is more gas in a mouse fart. Second, there is no discernable malt flavor. Malts serve as the background against which other flavors in the beer distinguish themselves or, in malt forward beers, are the main show. In any case, a solid malt base is essential to establish a well structured, balanced flavor profile. Now, I assume Perennial used chocolate malts for this noxious concoction but, amazingly, they managed to cover up any of the citrus or coffee or natural chocolate flavors which chocolate malts typically impart. Third, the beer tastes as if it were brewed without a bittering agent (hops, gruit, etc...). Some sort of bittering is essential to balance, regulate and compliment the sweet, roasty and grainy flavors imparted by the malt bill. However, I concede, this point is a bit moot since there aren't any discernable malt flavors in need of balancing.

If you've followed me this far, I'm sure you've picked up on my critical theme: it is as though perennial decided to eliminate or disguise anything essentially beery about this fermented nightmare. There is a further philosophical or semantic point to be made here. Can something really be considered a beer if it lacks the distinguishing aesthetic properties of beer? Is what makes beer beer a certain set or range of sensory phenomena drinkers experience or, does it simply come down to the use of certain ingredients and manufacturing methods, or is the conjunction of both these answers right? As a beer drinker, I am tempted to affirmatively answer the first question, as a home-brewer, I shout yes to the third, but only a fool (or large, multi-national conglomerate) could defend a positive answer to the second question.

I suppose my ultimate point is that recent experimental forays into unbeerlike "beers" have strayed so far away from the drink's traditional flavor profile as to require many beer drinkers to seriously entertain the second, foolish thesis (since one cannot reasonably claim fermented beverages like 17 have the aesthetic properties of beer, if one counts 17 as a beer, one must hold some version of thesis 2). Many who disagree with me will point out craft beer's historical heritage. They will say the essence of the craft beer movement is that it is always changing. These hefeweizen Hericlitians will claim that craft beer only exists as long as it is in flux; to appeal to tradition is to invite stagnation - standards be damned, we have torn the curtains from the Overton window, and before us stretches an unimpeded view of possibility! But these flavor renegades who, in truth, are no more rebel than zealot – revolutionaries for the sake of revolution, mere slaves to the "new" - would rather set fire to the hoppy past to clear a way for the noxious, artificially minty future. And that is a future I never want to see.

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4.17/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Sabtos
4.04/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Stark slick black with a minimal but dense mocha blanket that dies quickly leaving a polished obsidian surface.

YORK Peppermint Pattie all the way. There's a touch of booze and roasted malt on the nose, but this aroma really takes the mint and chocolate combination from endzone to endzone.

Taste is big time fresh wintergreen mint and luscious dark chocolate--just Andes candies to the max.

A full to medium body features a fulfillingly soft, substantial froth and a semi-dry tang.

Some might find this a bit mouthwashy, but I think they really nailed what they were after here. It's a great beer to ring in the holiday season with some friends, but probably not the best bottle to sit down by yourself with, or have many multiples of, unless you're intensely in love with mint, especially in your stouts.

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4.35/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of dsshuck
4/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of NoahEllison
4.35/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Very good Peppermint Stout. The beer tastes of good Dark Chocolate with Mint on the end. No hop flavor. Would recommend, though I'd share the bottle as the mint can be a little much after a few glasses.

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3.52/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

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4.37/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

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4.5/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

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4.11/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Sampling a 750 ml bottle that was bottled 2/2015 and poured at cellar temp into a snifter. received as part of a trade with @jeffmart22. Thank you!
The beer pours a rich chocolate brown color with dense creamy tan head of 3 cm foaming up even with a gentle pour. THe foam fades to a thin edge layer and wispy island.
The aroma is rich dark chocolate and some brown sugar with lots of roasted malt only very faint hints of spearmint, which may have been more bold in the fresh bottle. Not really boozy at all on the nose.
The first sip reveals a silky smooth body with very fine carbonation. The beer does leave a bit of a coating in my mouth after each swallow.
The flavor is roasted malt and some dark chocolate with a little bit of spearmint in the background. I dont get any of the 10% ABV and there are no hops anywhere. A very drinkable beer and probably kind of dangerous with the higher ABV not showing through and large bottle format. Good to try if you like malts and the mint is well done on this one, without any overwhelming flavors. Check it out.

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4/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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4.14/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

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4.55/5  rDev +14%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of brenn79
4.39/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.25

750 bottle, thanks Rusty- Pours black with a nice frothy dark tan head. Aroma is minty, chocolatey, tobacco, dark roasted malts. The taste is mint, chocolate, dark roasted malts, sweet and very dessert like, strong alcohol presence, but not boozy. Strong and flavorful, rich.

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4/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Evilyak
3.94/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

this was definitely one that was as advertised. poured dark and thick with a dark tan head.

the mint worked in this one. i didn't really get the cacao as much. easily consumed. creamy mouthfeel.

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