17 Mint Chocolate Stout
Perennial Artisan Ales

17 Mint Chocolate Stout17 Mint Chocolate Stout
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American Imperial Stout
Ranked #1,938
Ranked #6,283
4.01 | pDev: 10.72%
Perennial Artisan Ales
Missouri, United States
17 Mint Chocolate Stout17 Mint Chocolate Stout
Notes: 17 is an Imperial Stout brewed with huge amounts of chocolate malts, cacao nibs, and mint leaves. This hearty stout boasts 10% ABV and big chocolate aromas and flavors with a hint of fresh mint. This beer is perfect for the last cold months of the winter.
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Photo of mwilbur
3.83/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from 750 mL bottle into snifter.
A: Pours a dark brown hue with slowly forming thin dark mocha head that also gradually fades. Pours mildly thick and viscous.
S: Nicely strong fresh crushed mint with smooth dark chocolate. Not complex, but doesn’t need to be.
T: Hits with equal parts fresh crushed mint and smooth bittersweet chocolate. Not quite to the level of the aroma.
M: Medium heavy body with a thick viscous feel. Bright and refreshing mint. Darkly sweet with mildly bitter cacao.
D: The mint note is superb! Freshly crushed mint is particularly nice on the nose. A very straightforward mint chocolate stout. Drinking this cold reminds me of mint chocolate chip ice cream.

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mwilbur from Minnesota, May 09, 2020
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3.88/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Bottled 2/2016, perhaps past best by date.

Poured into tulip, a struggling head fizzed up a few seconds after decanting. Slim rim of mocha ringed the glass for the full duration.

Andes mint, faint soy sauce, decent scent

Mint comes through with dark chocolate and some of the malt bill coming through

Medium to full body, slight carbonation. Has a dark chocolate cacao dryness at the end.

Pretty decent, nothing I would seek out.

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Photo of NextBestThing
3.58/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Gentle pours yields a ring of light brown bubbles crowning a dark, essentially black body. Beer looks the way one would anticipate.

I'm getting far more chocolate and roasted malts on the nose than anything else. Not catching mint. Decent but nondescript.

Beer tastes more like a standard stout than I expected. Barely noticing any mint at all, maybe very faint but would probably not have tasted it if it wasn't suggested. Not a horrible beer but certainly disappointing if expecting mint as I was.

Beer is relatively lightly carbonated and also not heavy in the mouth. Does have a bit of a creamy, pleasant mouthfeel which for me is the highlight of the beer.

Not great. Actually clearly inferior to Southern Tier Thick Mint, which is also substantially less expensive and comes available in 4 packs of 12 ounce bottles, a more convenient format for me. Easy to drink for a 10% abv stout I suppose. There are worse beers out there but this is not something I would consider again or recommend.

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Photo of MonDak_Joe1953
3.99/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml bottle. Bottled '3/2017'.
Nearly opaque black colored body. One finger of tan head quickly fizzes away, but leaves an active bubble fed surface. Any lacing left behind eventually slides back down into body.
Aroma of minty chocolate.
Taste is sweet and redolent with mint. Mixed in with dark roasted chocolate malts. The mint stays around as a reminder in the aftertaste.
Thinner mouth feel. Good carbonation.
As described this presents itself as a mint chocolate stout. Thankfully not too sweet, and the mint just adds an over layer to the chocolate malts.

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Photo of soze47
4.04/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Note - bottle was almost two years old when I sampled out of my cellar.

I enjoyed this beer and appreciated that it tasted more like an upscale dark chocolate mint truffle than an artificial overly sweet beer. Traditional imperial stout notes of leather and chocolate along with a creamy mouth. For a 10%er she’s got legs. Really enjoy the mint here - it sprinkles in just enough spiciness and twinkle.

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soze47 from Massachusetts, Jan 13, 2019
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4.11/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Draft at City Tap House. Not much on appearance, but gets great. Aroma is roasty with minty notes. Taste adds more mint, but feels amazing. Mellowing, but in your face.

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stevoj from Idaho, Mar 20, 2018
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3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

When you want a chocolate fix with some strong mint, this is your beer. Too much mint is the main problem. You need lots and lots of beer buddies. Black, high quality.

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Sammy from Ontario (Canada), Feb 15, 2018
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4.39/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Appearance - Tge beer poured a blackish brown color with an almost frothy head. Poured from the bottle, the beer seemed to have a syrupy quality.

Smell - The nose is minty, but not astringent. There is a nice chocolate backbone.

Taste - My first thought is thin mint cookies, without the Girl Scouts. The mint is so well-balanced, unlike any mint here I’ve had before. The chocolate cookie backbone lens a sense of the million Arit my first thought is thin mint cookies, without the Girl Scouts. The mint is so well balanced, unlike any meant here I’ve had before. The chocolate cookie backbone lends a sense of familiarity. The mint is perfect, not to astringent or light. Although the taste becomes overwhelming after a while, one has to appreciate the balance.

Mouthfeel - Probably my favorite thing about this beer is the viscosity. The last pours out of the bottle we’re almost syrupy.

Overall - By far, this is my favorite mint beer.

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2.01/5  rDev -49.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

If I were blindfolded when I tried Perennial Mint Chocolate Stout, I would have told you I was drinking the bastard offspring of a York Peppermint Patty and a bottle of Listerine. I enjoy peppermint patties and I take pride in my oral health, but this is a case in which the whole is so much worse than its parts. But what is even more upsetting than the insane and offensive taste of this liquid hellspawn is its utter lack of any beer-like qualities. First, there is no carbonation. I understand this is (nominally) a stout but come on, there is more gas in a mouse fart. Second, there is no discernable malt flavor. Malts serve as the background against which other flavors in the beer distinguish themselves or, in malt forward beers, are the main show. In any case, a solid malt base is essential to establish a well structured, balanced flavor profile. Now, I assume Perennial used chocolate malts for this noxious concoction but, amazingly, they managed to cover up any of the citrus or coffee or natural chocolate flavors which chocolate malts typically impart. Third, the beer tastes as if it were brewed without a bittering agent (hops, gruit, etc...). Some sort of bittering is essential to balance, regulate and compliment the sweet, roasty and grainy flavors imparted by the malt bill. However, I concede, this point is a bit moot since there aren't any discernable malt flavors in need of balancing.

If you've followed me this far, I'm sure you've picked up on my critical theme: it is as though perennial decided to eliminate or disguise anything essentially beery about this fermented nightmare. There is a further philosophical or semantic point to be made here. Can something really be considered a beer if it lacks the distinguishing aesthetic properties of beer? Is what makes beer beer a certain set or range of sensory phenomena drinkers experience or, does it simply come down to the use of certain ingredients and manufacturing methods, or is the conjunction of both these answers right? As a beer drinker, I am tempted to affirmatively answer the first question, as a home-brewer, I shout yes to the third, but only a fool (or large, multi-national conglomerate) could defend a positive answer to the second question.

I suppose my ultimate point is that recent experimental forays into unbeerlike "beers" have strayed so far away from the drink's traditional flavor profile as to require many beer drinkers to seriously entertain the second, foolish thesis (since one cannot reasonably claim fermented beverages like 17 have the aesthetic properties of beer, if one counts 17 as a beer, one must hold some version of thesis 2). Many who disagree with me will point out craft beer's historical heritage. They will say the essence of the craft beer movement is that it is always changing. These hefeweizen Hericlitians will claim that craft beer only exists as long as it is in flux; to appeal to tradition is to invite stagnation - standards be damned, we have torn the curtains from the Overton window, and before us stretches an unimpeded view of possibility! But these flavor renegades who, in truth, are no more rebel than zealot – revolutionaries for the sake of revolution, mere slaves to the "new" - would rather set fire to the hoppy past to clear a way for the noxious, artificially minty future. And that is a future I never want to see.

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Photo of Sabtos
4.04/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Stark slick black with a minimal but dense mocha blanket that dies quickly leaving a polished obsidian surface.

YORK Peppermint Pattie all the way. There's a touch of booze and roasted malt on the nose, but this aroma really takes the mint and chocolate combination from endzone to endzone.

Taste is big time fresh wintergreen mint and luscious dark chocolate--just Andes candies to the max.

A full to medium body features a fulfillingly soft, substantial froth and a semi-dry tang.

Some might find this a bit mouthwashy, but I think they really nailed what they were after here. It's a great beer to ring in the holiday season with some friends, but probably not the best bottle to sit down by yourself with, or have many multiples of, unless you're intensely in love with mint, especially in your stouts.

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Sabtos from Ohio, Nov 06, 2017
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4.35/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Very good Peppermint Stout. The beer tastes of good Dark Chocolate with Mint on the end. No hop flavor. Would recommend, though I'd share the bottle as the mint can be a little much after a few glasses.

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NoahEllison from Missouri, Oct 24, 2017
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4.11/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Sampling a 750 ml bottle that was bottled 2/2015 and poured at cellar temp into a snifter. received as part of a trade with @jeffmart22. Thank you!
The beer pours a rich chocolate brown color with dense creamy tan head of 3 cm foaming up even with a gentle pour. THe foam fades to a thin edge layer and wispy island.
The aroma is rich dark chocolate and some brown sugar with lots of roasted malt only very faint hints of spearmint, which may have been more bold in the fresh bottle. Not really boozy at all on the nose.
The first sip reveals a silky smooth body with very fine carbonation. The beer does leave a bit of a coating in my mouth after each swallow.
The flavor is roasted malt and some dark chocolate with a little bit of spearmint in the background. I dont get any of the 10% ABV and there are no hops anywhere. A very drinkable beer and probably kind of dangerous with the higher ABV not showing through and large bottle format. Good to try if you like malts and the mint is well done on this one, without any overwhelming flavors. Check it out.

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sulldaddy from Connecticut, Oct 01, 2017
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4.39/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.25

750 bottle, thanks Rusty- Pours black with a nice frothy dark tan head. Aroma is minty, chocolatey, tobacco, dark roasted malts. The taste is mint, chocolate, dark roasted malts, sweet and very dessert like, strong alcohol presence, but not boozy. Strong and flavorful, rich.

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brenn79 from Idaho, Sep 04, 2017
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3.94/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

this was definitely one that was as advertised. poured dark and thick with a dark tan head.

the mint worked in this one. i didn't really get the cacao as much. easily consumed. creamy mouthfeel.

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Evilyak from Minnesota, Aug 26, 2017
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3.74/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured a pitch highly viscous black. The bright brown head was almost over reactive, nearly going over the glass. Aromas remind me of Thin Mint Girl Scout cookies. It had a sweet chocolate presence with notes of mint. The flavors however was different. The rich sweet chocolate stout was noticeable and exceptional; but then came the mint. It was raw and almost a bit too harsh. Like someone dropped a mint candy in the beer. Some may argue that it's not overwhelming but I find it being too much. If it was just kicked back a notch, it would have been a killer beer, like drinking a chocolate mint cookie. The mouthfeel was full-bodied and creamy. Overall the appearance, aroma and mouthfeel were great but when I tasted the mint, it was just too much.

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Benish from Wisconsin, Jun 15, 2017
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4.83/5  rDev +20.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Stumbled upon this at The Monk Kettle in San Francisco. $38 a 750ml bottle. Little steep but I said why not. Boy, this guy didn't disappoint. Look pours black with cappuccino lacing barely any head which quickly disappears. Smell of mint and chocolate. Lots of cocoa nibs in the smell. Taste is very impressive. Mint up front followed by chocolate chocolate chocolate with a bit of a cookie cracker finish. Alcohol is there. Burn is present at the end but boy is it good. Could be a bit more thick like Even More Jesus but a minor complaint. This was bottled March of this year so I'm curious to see what some age would do on this guy. Top marks Perrenial.

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Just-the-sip from California, May 24, 2017
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3.53/5  rDev -12%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

750ml poured into pint glass, had at city tap house in DC.
A: pours a dark motor oil brown, milk chocolate brown one finger foam head, some stringy lacing
S: roasted malt, chocolate, molasses, tobacco, mint
M: thick body
T: heavy malt, molasses, tobacco, slight mint, creamy milk chocolate in the finish
O: good brew, not as much mint flavor as I expected

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Photo of Powderhornphil
4.17/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Fun stout. Looks great in the glass and on the pour, thick stout. The look and mouthfeel are spot on. Taste is sweet mint chocolate.

Solid offering.

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Photo of zonker17
4.06/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Near black draft pour with thick brown head, not much lacing. As expected nose carries chocolate and mint but leans toward roasted malt. Flavors seem both muted but more mint. Mouth is huge and carbonation below average.

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Photo of Prager62
4.15/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A cellared bottle from 2/2016 I squirreled away as the fresh draft version I tasted was too much mint for my liking. Pouring it in a 13oz. snifter for the review.

Look- Pours a pitch black used motor oil color with a centimeter of mocha colored foam after a very aggressive pour. It disappears quickly leaving sparse lacing and an oily residue clinging to the glass.

Smell- Dark chocolate, mint, mild tobacco.

Taste- Dark semi sweet chocolate, mint, a little dark roast/char.

Feel- Oily, somewhat thin and flat, but dangerously drinkable for a 10% beer.

Overall- It's definitely a dessert beer! A year has nicely balanced this bottle with equal parts chocolate and mint. It reminds me of Fanny Mae Mint Meltaways or Girl Scout Thin Mint cookies. Very rich and decadent to the point that I'm getting full finishing the final half glass. It's definitely worth a try, share it with a friend.

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Prager62 from Colorado, Mar 21, 2017
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4.16/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Appearance: It's a dark black, creamy, decent looking beer with a brown head that has little lacing.

Smell: It's smell is okay...mostly minty, and uniquely mixed with a chocolaty, syrupy type aroma.

Taste: It has a nice taste...sort of like chocolate mint cookies, with a touch of molasses, which nicely balances out the alcohol content.

Mouthfeel: It's body is heavy with some light carbonation, but very smooth and somewhat silky.

Overall: For a stout, I'd say it's a quality beer, and would recommend it for anyone who likes sweet, thick imperials.

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jpa01 from Maryland, Feb 18, 2017
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3.79/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Unknown vintage; drank 4/28/16 on draft @ Jerry's Andersonville.

Black/brown appearance.

Dark khaki head; nice lace.

Thin mint cookie notes in the nose; it's uncanny!

Medium thick mouthfeel.

Thin mint cookie flavor up front; faint booze heat notes on the finish. A bit too sweet & simple for me to love, but thin mint fans should horde this!

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GuyFawkes from Illinois, Feb 06, 2017
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2.93/5  rDev -26.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

$17.99 USD for a 750ml brown glass bottle at a beer store in Brooklyn. Bottled 02/2016. Has a green and yellow label and a green and black pry-off crown cap.

10.0% ABV. "Mint chocolate stout" per the label. "Ale brewed wtih cacao nibs and mint leaves."

HEAD: None whatsoever. Just a decadent dark-as-hell sinful brown floater. Creamy and soft in appearance as they come, suggesting rich fudge. This is shaping up to be an interesting dessert beer.

BODY: Opaque solid jet black. No yeast particulate or hop sediment is visible within.

Appears aptly carbonated. Not a unique appearance for an imperial stout, but certainly a good one.

AROMA: I definitely get the mint, and would easily detect it in a blind tasting. Authentic mint leaves were the right call here; this is lovely. Chocolate specialty malt, cacoa nibs, dark malt sweetness, schwarz malts, and dessert-like notes of caramel, cream, and cocoa.

Promises a rich dessert beer, but I do have concerns it may be too sweet.

Aromatic intensity is mild. I detect no overt hop notes, overt yeast, roasted barley, or off-notes.

TASTE & TEXTURE: Syrupy and thick, tanking drinkability. I've had dessert beers that had presence and weight on the palate without being so syrupy. It's certainly full-bodied, but the chewiness is off-putting.

Notes of hershey's syrup, rich chocolate malt, heavy dark malt sweetness, and the eponymous mint combine to form a build that is both saccharine and enjoyable dessert-like. Many will find this too sweet, and that's evident in just the first sip; finishing this bottle solo will be trying. Aside from the one-two punch of chocolate/cacao nibs and mint leaves, there's very little to the beer in terms of intricacy; it's a detrimentally simple build for an imperial stout as a result, and though it lacks complexity it also somehow lacks balance.

Some roasted barley or bitter black coffee might help take the edge off the sweetness.

No overt hoppy or yeasty notes come through, nor do any off-flavours.

Flavour duration is above average. Flavour intensity is mild. Depth of flavour is somewhat shallow; this lacks really vivid expressive notes.

Aptly carbonated, to its credit.

OVERALL: I do like that the mint is genuine; my fear going into a mint chocolate stout is always that the mint will taste artificial (or like toothpaste). But compared to the best mint chocolate stouts (e.g. Stone's expression), this is pretty mediocre fare - and that doesn't bode well when it runs $17.99 per bottle. Were it half the price, I still wouldn't want another bottle, and in spite of the variety of tastes in the craft beer world, I struggle to imagine any drinker who would want to take down a full bottle of this stuff. I'd like to see Perennial tweak this and put it out in a smaller fairer priced format. Decent but disappointing work from Perennial.

As a side note, why is a mint chocolate stout beer intended for a winter release bottled in February?

C (2.93) / AVERAGE

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kojevergas from Colorado, Oct 14, 2016
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4.18/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Pours as dark as used motor oil -- even sunlight doesn't penetrate the liquid. The head is a finger of toffee-coloured foam, that lasts nicely and leaves just a trace of lacing.

S: A fairly even balance of mint, cocoa, orange, molasses, and dark bread.

T: Sweet malt, but not quite cloying. Lots of rich, toasty malt flavor. A little tart, dark fruit flavors, as well as some coffee and dark chocolate. The mint is there, but just enough for balance, not enough to distract.

M: Nicely carbonated. Alcohol is warming, but not overpowering booziness.

O: I bought this with some trepidation, worried that the mint would ruin it, but the brewers were restrained, and it adds just enough character to be interesting -- it certainly doesn't detract from the experience. This is not an every day beer, but it is a tasty treat to be had on rare occasions.

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4.5/5  rDev +12.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

My first perennial beer. I am not expecting much because of the mint and pretty much let my beer guy talk me into a mint beer. Let's see how it goes!

A: Dark. As in dark like a nice big stout.

S: Mint hits first, lightly followed by some char and dark bakers chocolate. Mint is nice enough, not overpowering.

T: Mint.....it is the most prominent flavor, but not overwhelming. The beer is bigger than I expected. There is a pretty massive backbone of dark chocolate and some char propping the mint up.

M: She's a thick one and that's how I like my women and my stouts. Very viscous. Not quite Ten Fiddy or Even More Jesus thick. Nevertheless, this is a tongue coater.

O: We've got a shocker here. I did not expect to dig the mint flavor. I can't picture liking mint in a lesser beer. This beer has the backbone to prop the mint up and make a very tasty and complex beer. The mint and chocolate create nuanced layers that result in a great beer. ISO: more Perennial beers! To think, I passed on asump a few months ago!

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