17 Mint Chocolate Stout | Perennial Artisan Ales

17 Mint Chocolate Stout17 Mint Chocolate Stout
BA SCORE
81.8%
Liked This Beer
3.99 w/ 758 ratings
17 Mint Chocolate Stout17 Mint Chocolate Stout
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Perennial Artisan Ales
Missouri, United States
perennialbeer.com

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by birchstick on 03-24-2012

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#3,949
Reviews:
114
Ratings:
758
Liked:
620
Avg:
3.99/5
pDev:
10.53%
Alströms:
4.12
 
 
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4.21/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

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3.68/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Thanks to GRG1313 for sharing this one at his tasting.

Bottled 3/2014.

Pours an almost opaque super dark crimson-brown with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to a film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark roasted malt, cocoa, mint, herbal toothpaste, and mint mouthwash aromas. Taste is much the same with mint chocolate candy flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of roast bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with slight toothpaste and mouthwash aromas, but the flavors are more candy like.

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3.5/5  rDev -12.3%

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4.24/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

very rarely is mint used well in beer, and this may be the best example i have seen of it. apparently the same base beer as sump and abraxas, but it doesnt feel quite as smooth as abraxas, and definitely isnt as insanely yeasty as sump. however, its a big black thick beer, obsidian shine, and a tall two inches of mocha brown head. the nose is mint first, like chocolate chip ice cream, its got that soft green smell too, fresh and yummy. the stout is second to the mint, but i dont know how much the chocolate adds to a base beer thats already very chocolaty. bitter bakers chocolate, cocoa powder, and sweet dark malt start the taste, and unlike the nose, the mint comes on later. its again like a mint cream, something youd find on top of a chocolate brownie, and the combination is really quite nice. even a whole bottle of this isnt too much as far as mint or sweetness, but the alcohol, although its well hidden, can certainly be felt after a glass or two. love the texture, all satin and sheen and long lasting. all the elements, even the mint, are in balance with one another, and i think its expertly dialed in. i wonder how many test batches of this it took to get the levels right, it cant be easy!

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look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

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look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Though an experiment that's much more common in homebrew circles and lesser so on the commercial beer market, the infusion of mint and chocolate usually falls short with a glimmer of a hint here or a "use your imagine" taste there and leaving the curiosity unfulfilled. That doesn't happen here.

But before then, the Stout opens much like any well-made other. Its dark brown body might even be black, especially when considering its medium density haze. A large, loosely-knit head builds a mocha-stained lather on top the beer and recedes quickly until a stern swirl re-energizes it. Its light lace is spotty and pocketed as the beer starts to prefer a stiller appearance late.

And then the nose fills with both chocolate and mind, and for a moment makes you forget that you are drinking beer. But a quick rise of dark-roast coffee, light campfire, burnt toffee and a hint of sorghum brings the malty back. Light wood notes pull from the mint and introduce a more earthen hop character. Whisky-like alcohol scents seem lightly fruity and spicy to the nose.

And to taste, its the malty components that introduce to the taste buds first- roasted espresso-like maltiness with burnt toffee, caramel and molasses; and then a savory smoky chocolate taste seems cocoa-heavy at middle palate. An overlay of fresh-chopped spearmint is grassy, herbal and cool tasting. The marriage of the mint and chocolate is effortless as the taste of desserts come to mind much more easily than beer. But as the beer closes, I'm surprised at the amount of both hop and cocoa bitterness that weave together for an extended, robust aftertaste. Alcohol spices are woody, bourbony and a little of cherry and is the only interference with the hop and mint dominance.

Full bodied but not obsurdly so. Its medium-high carbonation gives the malts a lift as the alcohol and mint dry the middle and late palate. Even the hop and cocoa notes assist in keeping the beer semi-dry well into the next sip. A more savory texture would have really transformed this Stout into a dessert replacer.

Even though the Stout tries to hang onto its beery roots, it also offers up a sense of drinkability with its dryish tone and is sure to please the beer purists. But as hard as the mint and chocolate are pushed, I'd be happier to simply see the beer abandon anything beer-like and prefer a sweeter, more succulent and more savory taste and feel.

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2.93/5  rDev -26.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

$17.99 USD for a 750ml brown glass bottle at a beer store in Brooklyn. Bottled 02/2016. Has a green and yellow label and a green and black pry-off crown cap.

10.0% ABV. "Mint chocolate stout" per the label. "Ale brewed wtih cacao nibs and mint leaves."

HEAD: None whatsoever. Just a decadent dark-as-hell sinful brown floater. Creamy and soft in appearance as they come, suggesting rich fudge. This is shaping up to be an interesting dessert beer.

BODY: Opaque solid jet black. No yeast particulate or hop sediment is visible within.

Appears aptly carbonated. Not a unique appearance for an imperial stout, but certainly a good one.

AROMA: I definitely get the mint, and would easily detect it in a blind tasting. Authentic mint leaves were the right call here; this is lovely. Chocolate specialty malt, cacoa nibs, dark malt sweetness, schwarz malts, and dessert-like notes of caramel, cream, and cocoa.

Promises a rich dessert beer, but I do have concerns it may be too sweet.

Aromatic intensity is mild. I detect no overt hop notes, overt yeast, roasted barley, or off-notes.

TASTE & TEXTURE: Syrupy and thick, tanking drinkability. I've had dessert beers that had presence and weight on the palate without being so syrupy. It's certainly full-bodied, but the chewiness is off-putting.

Notes of hershey's syrup, rich chocolate malt, heavy dark malt sweetness, and the eponymous mint combine to form a build that is both saccharine and enjoyable dessert-like. Many will find this too sweet, and that's evident in just the first sip; finishing this bottle solo will be trying. Aside from the one-two punch of chocolate/cacao nibs and mint leaves, there's very little to the beer in terms of intricacy; it's a detrimentally simple build for an imperial stout as a result, and though it lacks complexity it also somehow lacks balance.

Some roasted barley or bitter black coffee might help take the edge off the sweetness.

No overt hoppy or yeasty notes come through, nor do any off-flavours.

Flavour duration is above average. Flavour intensity is mild. Depth of flavour is somewhat shallow; this lacks really vivid expressive notes.

Aptly carbonated, to its credit.

OVERALL: I do like that the mint is genuine; my fear going into a mint chocolate stout is always that the mint will taste artificial (or like toothpaste). But compared to the best mint chocolate stouts (e.g. Stone's expression), this is pretty mediocre fare - and that doesn't bode well when it runs $17.99 per bottle. Were it half the price, I still wouldn't want another bottle, and in spite of the variety of tastes in the craft beer world, I struggle to imagine any drinker who would want to take down a full bottle of this stuff. I'd like to see Perennial tweak this and put it out in a smaller fairer priced format. Decent but disappointing work from Perennial.

As a side note, why is a mint chocolate stout beer intended for a winter release bottled in February?

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3.9/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

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look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Menthol. So much mint and chocolate. Too much mint. Roasted malts. Not a big fan.

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look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Thanks to Matt for sharing, the BA version was awesome, this should be pretty good.

Nice creamy dark colored 1/2 finger head fades slowly with nice lacing, pitch black beer, decent legs.

Nose is just pure chocolate and mint, great mint and not overpowering, dark chocolate, little caramel, mocha.

Taste brings nice mint, fairly nice mint not overpowering bit not as much as the nose at first, nice cocoa and mocha, little dark choc, caramel, creamy vanilla somehow, mild cookie to make it a thin mint. Booze is hidden well with nice creamy sweetness. Finish is fairly dry but little sticky, long lingering mint that gets really minty.

Mouth is med to fuller bod, fairly thick and little creamy, bit rich too, decent carb.

Overall quite nice. Not as amazing as the BA version, but still a great beer. Mint is done well and not overpowering, and the good mint flavors, also nice chocolate and malt characters, and blended well, with well hidden booze.

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17 Mint Chocolate Stout from Perennial Artisan Ales
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