Hvedegoop (2008) | 3 Floyds Brewing Co.

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Hvedegoop (2008)Hvedegoop (2008)

Brewed by:
3 Floyds Brewing Co.
Indiana, United States

Style: Wheatwine

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.40%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
A wheat wine brewed with our friends at Mikkeller.

22oz bottles only. 750ml bottle should be reviewed under the Mikkeller listing.

Added by bgramer on 04-26-2008

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.53/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a deep dirty cloudy brown color ale with a medium size foamy head with OK retention and some light lacing. Aroma of heavy residual sugars with some dry grainy notes is quite intense. Taste is also dominated by heavy amounts of residual sugars with some dry grainy malt of wheat. Body is full with limited filtration and medium carbonation with light warming alcohol notes. A bit intense to drink in large quantities but interesting nonetheless.

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Photo of johnnnniee
3.99/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Vintage bottle received in trade from MeadMe, thanks for the opportunity!
Pours a slightly hazy deep copper color with a smallish khaki head that persists for a while before leaving some lace on the sides. Aroma is sweet with bready, honey sweet, sugary malt. Lots of caramel and brown sugar, sweet orange and a bit of spice and earthy hop aroma. Surprisingly little alcohol aroma for a beer at almost 11%. The flavor is sweet and malty up front with a ton of brown sugary caramel. The alcohol shows itself in the flavor and provides a whole lot of warming on the way down. Deep orange and light sweet fruity flavors along with a hint of spice and earthy hop round out the flavor nicely. Very faint sherry like oxidation but not nearly as present as the oatgoop last night. Medium to thick body with a light to moderate level of carbonation and a sweet almost syrupy mouthfeel. This one's holding up fairly well, I enjoyed the hell out of it, like an old Barleywine at Mike's house in Feb.

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Photo of HuskyinPDX
3.64/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

My Three Floyds quest continues. Bottle opened on 6.18.12.

A - Pours a murky medium brown with a small tan head, pretty fizzy.

S - Sweet, fermented wheat, and some dark ripe fruits.

T - Sweet raisins, toffee, carmel, and bread.

D - Decent carbonation and a heavier than expected body.

O - Sweet and old ripe fruit makes this old wheay boy pack a punch.

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Photo of mulder1010
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bomber poured into a globe glass
Slowly working way through the entire range of the collaboration
Thanks to Mrkennedy for sourcing this at Warners at the Bay

A-- Poured a darker, hazy orange color. One finger light brown head that fell to half a finger and then film. Just really held up well for the age of this beer. Great head retention and body to this. Left spotty lacing through drinking.

S-- Hops still quite there. A bit of a smoother smell with the wheat. candied orange and grapefruit. bits of carmel and biscuit. More just surprised how good the nose is. Just expected this to be a bit flatter and the hop character to be gone by this point.

T-- Orange, grapefruit, and pine in the taste. honestly quite shocking that the hops are still dominant. Bits of carmel and bread in the background. Would say slightly smoother with the wheat. Good stuff.

M-- Rich feel. Medium feel and medium low carbonation. Slightly sticky at times. More of a barleywine feel at this point but cleaner.

O-- Outstanding considering the age of this. Must have been a hop bomb fresh. really a pleasure to drink and glad to have tried. ABV was still quite noticeable and got a buzz after drinking this. interesting

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Photo of DefenCorps
4.03/5  rDev +2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle that I picked up at the brewery at DLD 08. In my Great Divide snifter.

A surprisingly dark red pour that's quite hazy, this beer has a dense, creamy, beige head with excellent retention and some lacing. The nose caught me by surprise. Despite its age, this still does smell surprisingly fresh (in some aspects). There still is quite a bit of hop character present, though it's more noticeable as a piney bitterness with some candied fruit. Plenty of caramelized fruits with plums, raisins, some sugar and caramel syrup are also present. Wheat, less bready and more "clean", "snappy" and flatbread-like than, say, the raw wheat character from a hefeweizen. Really good IMO.

At 4 years of age, this beer is still bold and brash on the palate. Still quite bitter (pine, candied grapefruit again), but thankfully, without oxidized hop character (no cheese!), this is well balanced with a fairly complex malt flavors present. Plenty of fruit (plums, raisins and aforementioned grapefruit), some caramel, some dark honey and a little bit of brown sugar are present. Again, the wheat character isn't particularly strong, coming off as clean but distinctive, reminiscent in some ways of the Smuttynose Wheatwine. Full in body with a soft, creamy carbonation, the alcohol here is noticeable, especially on the finish, where it adds a slightly minty note to all the fruit and bitterness. Surprisingly excellent stuff, I might actually drink the entire bottle. Recommended.

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Photo of spinrsx
3.97/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz Bottle - thanks to lubiere

Appearance - Brown/copper colour with a small size fizzy beige coloured head. I can't make out the level of carbonation and there is some fair lacing. The head lasted for around 3 minutes.

Smell - Malts, caramel/toffee, hops, raisins,

Taste & Mouth - There is a below average amount of carbonation and I can taste malts, caramel and some herbal notes. There is also a touch of hops and some fruit esters mixed with an earthiness. It ends with a dark fruit and caramel sweet aftertaste.

Overall - The beer drinks more like a barley wine than a wheat wine. The alcohol is very well hidden and the taste is smooth. Although it would have been nice to taste this fresh, it seemed to age quite well.

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Photo of aasher
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The first of the 'Goops! Courtesy of sincereNC at the South Carolina tasting. I NEVER expected this to randomly make an appearance at a tasting.

It pours a nice and medium bodied amber in color with light sediment and sticks to the side of the glass. The aromas are very malty and full of sticky residuals. It smells like a three plus year old barleywine. Malt, malt, malt. Nice flavors despite the age. It's heavy on caramel malts and toffee. It drinks really well for the style. Overall this is a fine specimen but is drink it soon.

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Photo of orangesol
3.58/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Another bottle courtesy of Deuane

A - Pours murky orange with a small half finger tall off white head leaving spotty lacing down the glass.

S - Smells of rich caramel malt, earthy hops, light buscuity malt, honey, and a touch of dulled peppery spice.

T - Starts off with a nice dose of sweet caramel malt quickly giving way to a mix of earthy hops, toffee, peppery spice, chocolate, and the chewy wheat. Pretty damn hot still for being three years old. Finish is a bit dry with a mix of light spice and chewy wheat lingering on the pallet for some time.

M - Medium body and flavor with moderate carbonation. Smooth, spicy, feel with a mix of spice and wheat lingering through the finish.

O - Not bad but for being three years old you would think the heat would die down a bit, not ramp up. Glad I got to try it but I doubt I would ever seek another one of these out.

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Photo of akorsak
3.58/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A 650 mL bomber.

A: The wheatwine looks more like a barleywine, resplendent with tawny reddish orange colors. A thin head, just a band around the mouth.

S: The nose is big, plenty of malts, both barley and wheat, although the wheat lacks the gentle decorum of, say, a hefeweizen. Very strong and concentrated, my initial thought was 'Old Ruffian'.

T: A big, big taste. The wheatwine has aged nicely, both the hoppiness and maltiness sticking around and growing in intensity. Caramel and toffee stand out, a sweet base that doesn't abate. Chocolate and roast follow, each building a little more. Finally, the finish brings an aged hop bite to the forefront, a big dash of peppery heat. Very hot, and hot is not good on a hot day.

M: The peppery heat is a strong reminder of the intense strength of a good wheatwine. This one is good, it doesn't pull any punches as it delivers its big caramel base.

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Photo of MasterSki
3.57/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Thanks to dschuster03 for this one, seeing as I didn't stick around at Dark Lord Day '08 long enough to actually buy any bottles. Served in a Goose Island taster pint.

A - And we have a gusher, although I think it's because these got shook up a bit in my backpack on the bus ride. Pours with a finger of light brown foam that settles to a thin cap, leaving behind spotty lace. The body is a murky orange-brown color.

S - Caramel, honey, nebulous fruits, some roasted grains, and some spicy estery yeast. Some signs of oxidation. Smells like a decent aged barleywine.

T - Taste is bland, with significantly more oxidation, as well as some baker's chocolate and malted milk flavors I didn't pick up in the nose. Otherwise very heavy on caramel and other sweet things. Finishes papery.

M - Smooth medium body, with surprisingly active but pleasant carbonation. No discernible alcohol is a positive.

D - Interesting to try, but not something I'd care to have again. Don't cellar this one any longer, as I suspect it will rapidly decline. I know this bottle was cellared properly, so I suspect all bottles are growing equally stale and oxidized. I would have thought a strong wheatwine would have held up longer than 2 years, 8 months, but what do I know?

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Photo of JohnQVegas
3.94/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bottle into The Bruery tulip. Another massive wave of gratitude to Jeff (Alewatcher) for yet another unlikely want realized. Oatgoop and Hvedegoop tasted, with a bottle of Ruggoop (also from Jeff) waiting in the wings - thanks, man.

Pours murky, almost sludgy looking red-brown, with a one-finger fizzy khaki head on top that fades away quickly. not much in the way of lacing or retention.

Nose is very fruity - quite rich. Pears pan-cooked with brown sugar and butter is the first thing that comes to mind. Almost nothing in the way of hops or alcohol. The nose is dense, rich, heavy, and smooth - age has certainly taken all the edges off of this one, leaving it round and mellow.

Taste follows through with the nose; again, ridiculously rich fruitiness dominates - pears are there again, in heavy syrup and brandy, a bit over-ripe, alongside dense caramel notes, and a deep earthy presence that seems to be the only remnant of a formerly prominent hop presence. Earthiness brings in notes of tobacco, even a bit of oiled leather. A bit dull - not as in boring, but as in the opposite of bright - and dense, which aren't necessarily detrimental; they just add more of that feeling that this one has certainly aged awhile. Finish has a sharp but not overwhelming earthy bitterness, alongside the fading caramel-and-brandy soaked fruit notes, and what's left of the mild, estery alcohol presence. As it warms, it becomes clear that this is really largely unlike any beer that I've had before, which isn't surprising, given the fact that I've never tried a 2 or 3 year old wheatwine before.

My first couple of sips of this one were huge disappointments, but I attribute that largely to my own expectations and even lack of experience with the style when aged. By the end of the glass, I had a growing appreciation for the complexity and uniqueness of the beer. Quite a memorable experience.

Mouthfeel is full bodied, definitely syrupy, with a thin, fading layer of carbonation that can't quite bear the heavy load its assigned. Very full finish that seems to linger forever.

Drinkability is... well, hard to say. This is a beer to sip and savor, to really appreciate on its own terms. Not one to drink as a background experience, this is certainly an exercise. An enjoyable and rewarding one, but an exercise nonetheless.

Thanks again, Jeff - I could send you beer from now till 2020 and still feel I owe you.

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Photo of Arenbeer
4.7/5  rDev +19%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

22oz bottle into a snifter glass

A- Pours a murky thick looking brown with practically no head and little lacing on the glass.

S- Man i love the smell of old wines! Nice barley and sweet caramel malt presence mixed with a subtle wheat note that really makes it. Slight hidden booze in there as well that completes the overall fullness of this aroma.

T- Delicious oats with a nice subtle wheat aftertaste that blends with a nice faded hop presence. Also some sweet caramel malts and a slight booze feel bring it together.

M- Full syrup like body with low carbonation and a decent slight bitter finish from the hops that were.

Overall this is probably the only wheat wine I've actually enjoyed fully. The age definitely made a huuuuge impact on the flavor, only making it absolutely exceptional.


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Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.72/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

22 oz bottle split and poured into a New Belgium glass. 10.4% ABV, no date.

Thanks to mtunnell for sharing this bottle!

A - The pour yielded a little pile of tiny bubbles of off white foam above the hazy brown-amber beer. Decent retention and spotty lace.

S - The aroma has a lot of warm alcohol in the nose with a bit of oats and soft wheat. Caramel and toffee poke through with a little bit of earthy hops in there as well.

T - Toasted amber malts start it off with a small bit of wheat and some oatiness with warm alcohol and low earthy hops on the finish. A good flavor balance between the characteristics.

M - Hvedegoop is medium-bodied and smooth with low carbonation making it seem much thicker than it really is. Not the greatest texture.

D - The texture makes it very goop-like (imagine that!) but it significantly lowers the drinkability. The ration between the four guys was plenty for me.

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Photo of beerwolf77
3.68/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Huge thanks to mtunnell for sharing this beer at the goop tasting.

Poured from a bottle into my New Belgium stemmed globe glass.

A: cloudy, rusty brown, tiny amount of light beige head, small soapy lace ring

S: sweet malt with a tart barley wine like backbone, modest caramel and dark fruit

T: bready malt, loads of sweet caramel, it has a weak barley wine flavor in the finish, dry and tart no hint of alcohol

M: medium body with mild carbonation

T: a rather nice wheatwine, I can only assume the 2+ years on this beer have tames it quite considerably

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Photo of crusian
3.46/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle been sitting in the cellar for a while and got tired of looking at it.
pours nice dark amber color with a surprising amount of head on it... about 2 fingers, and sits around for a while.
smells like a barleywine. almost no hop presence. VERY aromatic. very strong smell to it... but what that smell is, I am having trouble breaking down.

taste is a bit... odd. a little bubblegummy/cotton candy. A lot of caramel malt and molasses... almost no hop taste... nice and malty. clear flavor I just can't put my finger on. bugging that crap out of me that I can't lock it down. I assume at 10.2% this was very boozy fresh, but it has really faded quite a bit. The alcohol is well masked.

nice smooth mouthfeel...
Overall a nice wheat wine, as there are not too many to choose from out there.

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Photo of nickd717
3.85/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bomber shared by someone at jhenry04's housewarming. Thanks, guy! I expected this to be phenomenal, but was only whelmed (not quite underwhelmed) by it.

The pour is cloudy amber and the head is off-white and well-retained. Some lacing adorns the glass as the wine of wheat is imbibed.

The aroma is sweet and wheaty with sherry, oak, caramel, honey, and pine resin. Smells excellent.

Of the wheatwines I've ticked - I mean tried, this is more or less second tier out of about five total tiers (Southern Tier is the fifth one). Flavor is a little sweeter than I'd like, and very oaky despite the lack of -bal aging. Some sherry-like oxidative notes are present as well. I heard some whining from the "too sweet" camp as this beer was passed around, but I don't consider myself part of that crowd, so I thought it was tasty.

Smooth on the mouthfeel and not too cloying. There is a little oaky dryness to it, and a slight booziness. Body is medium-full.

Overall, you know, it's not FFF's best, but it sure ain't their worst. I liked this beer but wasn't blown away.

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Photo of baggio
3.88/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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A: Red brownish with a wee beige/yellowish lace. Some lacing.

S: Caramel, Fruit, Alcohol, Berries.

T: Caramel, Fruit, Herbs, Alcohol, Bitter hops.

M: Smooth and filling with an initial sweetness ending with a distinct bitterness.

A very nice wheatwine even tho it is a bit too sweet for my liking.

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Photo of b3barron
4.28/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served into a snifter. Great looking beer. Bright ruby colored with a tan head of about 3 inches and frothy lacing. Smells of vanilla, dark fruits, butterscotch, brown sugar and a little bit of alcohol. Taste follows the smell with pronounced toffee and molasses as well. This makes a nice nightcap which is exactly what I expected and like about a wheatwine. Overall, I'm glad to have obtained this and think it has aged well.

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Photo of DmanGTR
4.15/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Review from notes on 1/30/10

A - Hazy amber orange, light off-white head. 4.0

S - grainy, wheaty, and rich caramel. Dark fruits, hint of grapes. 4.0

T - Very similar to an English barleywine but with less dark fruitiness. Hint of roast, lots of toffee. 4.5

M - Medium bodied, nicely carbonated. Warming finish. 3.5

D - Pretty good, definitely a sipper. 4.0

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Photo of brdc
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bought at DLD 2008, brought straight home and into my cellar, kept for nearly two years.

Large capped bottle, poured into a snifter.
Colored somewhere between orange, golden and red, with a short and short lasting off white head.
aroma is definitely sweeter than the palate, with a lot of caramel, but still enough citric hoppiness.
Nearly full bodied, the flavor is a lot hoppier than the aroma, and quite bitter. Sure, caramel sweetness plays a role, but the fruitiness, citric and grassiness dominates the flavor, a bit too bitter for my taste, but certainly not bad.
Perhaps an extra year in the cellar would do it; if you are a hophead, go for it now.

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Photo of chaz410
4.14/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle into a snifter.
Pours a light orange amber body with a very thin white head.
Smells of sweet caramel malt and toasted biscuits. Slight wheat malt flavor ring out on the nose.
Taste sharp and spicey in herbal cardomon, cumin and pine hops. These spices overlay sa heavy part of wheat and caramel mats. Lots of toasty wheat sweetness lingers though the mid to finish swallow.
A smooth but sharp finish beer with not much alcohol finish.

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Photo of JohnGalt1
3.78/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Ditmier provided this at a tasting a while back.. reviewed from notes. Big props to Eric.. This is an excellent beer.

Copper orange brew .. very clear .. lite tan head with great retention and lace.

Nose is lite citrus and floral hops coated in caramel.. earthy and toasty.

Bright bitterness.. floral hops again.. very bready.. nice maltiness helps bring the hops to the front of the palate for a fleeting moment.. like a softened American BW.. Body is expected and carbonation may be a tad light but lends toward a smooth mouthfeel.

Thanks again Eric.. Sorry that this was on my "wants" AND I have one in the cellar... It is still on my wants... I want another, because this is gonna age like a champion... and I want to do a Wheatwine tasting sometime down the road.


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Photo of laituegonflable
4.45/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a reddish-brown ochre colour with a light but quick and fairly steady bead. Head is lightish but sinks quickly to a film of beige lace, with some gorgeous sheets around the glass. Nice hazy body, it's a cracker of a beer no doubt, if only there were more head.

Very malty and fruit on the nose, a rich treacle glazy aroma with some fresh grapes, apple and pear characters, some overcooked cookie fragrance as well, and a very nice, healthy floral hop character. Whatever this nose is, it's blossoming at just the right time, ie. when I'm smelling. Doesn't go overboard, it's just lovely.

Taste is a very strong affair. Some biscuity malty notes give way to a fairly phenolic mid, with a big kick of brandy alcohol warmth, bit of bourbon sourness to it as well. A hint of some Asian five spice on there, some peppery notes on the back, and a slightly green fruit character on the mid. Bit of a sting from the alcohol punctuates the palate well, and there is some nice baked glazed fruit on the mid, pears with a honey-like sweetness. Interesting, with a great deal of complexity, sweet and phenolic spice, I guess that's possibly a wheat kick although I don't detect a huge amount of wheat on here. A challenge to the tastebuds, but one that is wholly pleasurable as well.

Mouthfeel is slick in the mouth although quite chewy and viscous at the back, distinct alcohol kick is warming and justified by the full-on flavour. Very good, but doesn't quite reach the highs of syrupiness I expected.

A fantastic drop, one to be savoured. Doesn't go overboard at all, just powerful and complex. Deadly in its drinkability, can stack up against anything in my opinion.

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Photo of lacqueredmouse
4.42/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Pours a very deep reddish brown colour, really lovely and cloudy, with a yellowish head slightly pocked with bubbles, and rather filmy all the way down. Some good lacing. Looks pretty damn tasty, and very high-end American.

Rich and sweet nose, full of malt and molasses, but with a lovely layer of tropical fruits over the top - think pineapple, raisins and lychee, with stronger more piquant notes of pine and lime. Very fragrant and hoppy. Lovely.

Rich and chewy body, very full and creamy, and without the sharp slice of razor hops I was expecting. Taste is initially slightly piquant, with pine needle freshness at the fore, but the body mellows and the palate is wonderfully long, balancing through some light fruit characters before the chewy, sweet and full finish, which is like caramelised sugar on the tongue. Mouthfeel is as heavy, slick and glutinous as anything I've yet had. Wonderful.

A very luscious, and well-named goopy beer. Packed with hop flavour, but backed up with loads of body. I would like a wheat wine to distinguish itself a little more from an American Barleywine (and even more so from a DIPA, which this one is coming close to resembling), but it can't be denied that this is a very robust and exciting brew.

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Photo of corby112
4.4/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a very dark ruby red/chestnut brown color with bright ruby red hues when held to a light source and a 2.5 finger frothy yellowish light beige head. Completely opaque. Excellent retention, only slowly fading into a thick cap that lasts throughout. Sporadic spots and rings of lacing are left behind.

Sweet yet earthy aroma with lots of leathery caramel malt, rye, alcohol, dark fruit, port, subtle floral hops and spice. This is a very interesting smelling barleywine that is not all malt and alcohol. There is a sweetness and creaminess that I can't quite put my finger on but I like it! It might be the citrus and floral hops along with the alcohol balancing out the musty earthy malt profile but I can't say for sure.

Pretty hop forward up front, especially for the style with lots of earthy, floral bitterness and sweet citrus notes which are a very nice compliment to the sweet alcohol, smokey, leathery malt. There is a bit of toasty nutty flavor as well as the leathery, musty maltiness mentioned above. Subtle hints of dark fruit, mostly raisin, fig and prune. The wheat aspect is slightly subdued with only the slightest hint of ripe banana but the spicy citrus notes blend perfectly with heavy dose of citrusy, floral hops. The alcohol is present in the flavor but there is hardly any alcohol warmth, making this dangerously drinkable at 10.4%.

Not one of the several flavors in this very complex brew overpowers the other, rather they just bounce back and forth off of each other and I'm picking up something new with each sip. Perhaps the bitterness from the hops up front are a little powerful but I actually love that and wish more barleywines followed suit. It provides excellent balance and a nice counter to the strong alcohol and malt flavors that tend to dominate beers in this style. I loved this beer an am looking forward to trying Oatgoop! Highly recommended!

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