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3 Floyds / De Molen Zes Zes Zes3 Floyds / De Molen Zes Zes Zes

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3 Floyds Brewing Co.
Indiana, United States

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.50%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
Now this is a saison! This refreshing Belgian-style ale is the combined effort of Three Floyds and De Molen’s fantastic brewer Menno (the real Dutch Hercules). This spicy and bracing ale was brewed in Munster, but look out for the one we brew in Holland at DeMolen. Cheers and drost!

Added by MasterSki on 08-19-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of CuriousMonk
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from bomber into dimple mug glass. Pours a lovely oranger-than-pink-grapefruit with a spongey white head. Excellent lacing that coats the glass well. Aroma has spices, fresh fruit and a yeasty presence. Faint citrus. Taste is of many fruits - lemon, orange, grapefruit, apple, melon - plus chewy resin, a spicyness and some malt. Quite bitter and very dry as you get down through the glass, with some alcohol presence. This is not your father or uncle’s saison - much more assertively hoppy and strong.

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Photo of chicagoanbeerone
4.3/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I smelled the great citus hops when i first opened the beer and that famous three floyds smell. The taste is a bitter sweet taste that is very fucky but delisious A very good tatsing beer not disspointed at all and met all the expectations The saision added a good twist of flavor done right and beer had a good kick
i would drink this all the time

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Photo of Higy
4.23/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Vessel - wine glass, stemless
Pours - bronze body cloudy but settles after the head, pale straw head about 1" quickly fleeting
Aroma - Rose floral scent, citrus, light amount of pine
Taste - lemon, pine neddles, pineapple
Mouthfeel - medium body, palate cleansing carbonation.

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Photo of TwelveOunces
3.91/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 Oz bottle poured into a snifter

A- Pours incredibly hazy orange. Very murky. A one finger of an off white head. Dissipation fairly quick. Some alcohol legs on the glass.

S- Not surprising, coming from 3F this thing smells quite hoppy. The wheat and farmyard notes are very subtle. A nice floral and citrus hop. A subtle belgian yeast type of flavor.

T- A big bitterness up front. Borderline IPA. Sweeps over with a nice citrus flavor. A little pine as well. A lot of grapefruit, grape figs. There is a little wheat in here but not much for a Saison. I cant tell if they used a belgian yeast or not. This beer doesnt have a spicy flavor or grassy notes like a typical Saison.

M- Bitter. Smooth and silky, Seems higher on the side of carbonaiton.

O- This is a solid beer. It's really a cross between a Saison and an IPA and doesnt seem to nail either part of the equation too well. The beer is good and nice to drink but doesn't have a whole lot going for it and isn't up to par with the steep price tag.

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Photo of tdm168
4.08/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - dark orange with a thin white head

S - oranges, yeast, peaches

T - yeast, oranges, orange rind, faintly bitter

M - dry, very well carbonated, smooth

This is a very nice saison. It has a nice citrusy character that is very refreshing and offers a great drinkability. My only complaint is that there is a rind-like dryness throughout. Nonetheless, this is a quality beer that is definitely worth a try.

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Photo of JohnnyHopps
3.83/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I think this is a saison in name only , because I have never quite had a saison that fits this profile. The Three Floyds motto is "It's not normal", and this fits the motto.

Pouring a golden yellow color, the ale like a white head in the snifter glass. A mild grass aroma came from the glass though the aroma was far from potent. Lacking the "funk" of a saison, the ale certainly had a lot of other interesting elements in the taste. Hops make a big impression with notes of citrus pineapple, mild grapefruit, and a certain earthiness. It has a pretty broad spectrum of hops. The mouthfeel had a certain thickness that I associate with the style, making the taste thick enough to linger. This was important as the taste was allowed to linger and warm the back of the throat. I am not a fan of saisons, but enjoyed this one. Maybe I enjoyed it because it is so strikingly different from other saisons.

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Photo of WoodBrew
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer pours a rich looking amber with no head. The nose is pure grapefruit hops with a touch of funk...barnyard zombie dust? There just as much grapefruit in the taste and aftertaste along with good yeast character and sweetness. The beer's mouthfeel is medium with ample carbonation.
This is a great beer and an unexpected highlight at our tasting.

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Photo of thagr81us
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big thanks goes out to aasher for sharing this one during the One Year Anniversary of My Wreck Tasting! Served from bottle into a Crooked Stave ‘Crooked Line’ tulip. Poured a hazy golden yellow-orange with a half finger white head that subsided to a minimal amount quickly. Maintained nice lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, pineapple, citrus, citrus hop, and passion fruit. The flavor was of sweet malt, fruit, tropical fruit, citrus, and fruit hop. It had a light feel on the palate with medium-high carbonation. Overall this was a good brew. There was quite a bit of fruit going on in this one which was a welcomed change-up for the evening. This helped to make it quite easy to drink and enjoyable. There wasn’t really that much that stood out to me on this one which is why I can’t put it in the next tier. What was there was quite nice, but just missed a little something to take it to the next level. Worth trying if you get the chance.

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Photo of AleWatcher
3.36/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

Bomber into FFF Teku.

Saison? I think this is an IPA. And a hopped up, bitter, assertive, abrasive IPA in the FFF style at that!

Anyway-- big hopped up bitterness blends with white pepper and a little boozy heat to make this most unlike the typical saison that I'm used to... Notes of tropical citrus fruits lead the way in terms of hops, while a bready chalkiness is ever-present from the malt/yeast combo.

The beer [i]looks[/i] nice, but that's about it for me... It's almost like finally getting a date with that cute girl only to realize that the cuteness is all you could really like-- there's just no substance there.
Well, ok, that might be a bit extreme.
It's more like going to a strip club, paying the cover, seeing 8 GORGEOUS girls walking around, and then discovering that it's 'no nudity' and they wear pasties.

Even that sounds too extreme. But, it [i]is[/i] FFF, and they simply don't do simple. Almost everything is extreme in some way and generally, it works. Not so much here though.

Feels thick, syrupy, and bit undercarbonated-- though it really LOOKS great. Two fingers of fluffy, rocky head that almost overflowed my glass and leave intense curtains of lacing behind.
Glowing orangey-golden body is just barely hazy enough to obscure transparency....

Overall-- I'll finish this beer-- by NO means is this a drainpour! It simply isn't the style of saison I like best... A bit too boozy, too hoppy, and too thick.
But to be fair, it see,s to make for a pretty decent "Winter Saison."

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Photo of Kelly88
4.42/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had this beer on tap at Cock and Bull two blocks away from my new place in Covington! Served in a 10oz tulip glass.

This beer pours a nice light copper. Think the color of sweet tea with plenty of ice in the glass. Beautiful off white head remains in top for awhile until it transforms into a thick ring of foam around the glass with some archipelago of skim in the middle. Sporadic random sticky lace is here and there after each drink. Saison?

Hoppy and sweet would be my first two thoughts. My nose can never really decipher smell that good in bars but this is strong. Bitter aromatic hop buds clash with almost a candied peach To create an interesting nose.

Taste is great. The hops and I guess the Saison yeast hit you first but the refreshing peachy pineapple keeps it from being harsh. Saison? This beer is great notated what they want to call it.

Mouthfeel is all over the place. Light but then it gets a little oily which creates a smooth finish. I like it a lot I just would like a little more consistency.

Overall a fantastic beer. I love the way the two breweries have taken what they know and creating something unique.

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Photo of Arbitrator
3.92/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Chilled bottle into a glass, from lurchingbeast, the guy who won't take "no" for an answer. Thanks, Frank!

A: Pours a murky, orange body with fluffy, off-white head. Good retention and a fair amount of lace. This looks like an IPA.

S: Pineapple, guava, papaya, sweet pale malt, white pepper, squash, and some chalk. This kind of smells like an IPA.

T: Up front, this tastes like an IPA: tropical-forward hops imbue the beer with pineapple, guava, and papaya flavors. There is a noticeable sweetness that culminates in a nearly syrupy finish. The aftertaste has a touch of white pepper and a noticeable chalkiness and squash, which I guess is some sort of yeast residue. Not pleasant.

M: See above for my comments on the aftertaste. It's a little heavy for a saison, and I do detect the alcohol at times. The carbonation seems to have come out in the pour, resulting in a heavy body without a lot of life.

O: I think this is an IPA brewed with saison yeast. They're trying to fool me, but I'm on to them. Pretty tasty.

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Photo of HuskyinPDX
4.2/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle opened on 10.9.12

A - Pours a cloudy dark orange with a foamy one inch light tan head with good retention.

S - Hoppy orange and tropical fruit.

T - Fruity, citrus, candy. Sweet and tropical.

D - Good carbonation with a light-medium body.

O - Sweet and fruity - Nice saison with a 3F twist.

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Photo of BarryMFBurton
3.84/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Three Floyds saison = hops, I’m hoping; I’m definitely in the mood for a bitter, Belgian-style brew.

A: Hazy, dark amber in color; overhead, a finger of tan cream. Sheets of lacing all around the inside of the glass, with only a paper-thin layer of retention.

S: Dank, citrus, badass hops. Strawberry, tangerine, lemon-lime, grape, and cherry in tart, juicy form – we’re talking Zombie Dust territory here. Damn. Very light pale malt, with some mild European grains and estery, spicy yeast sit in the background. All fruit in this nose, with only a touch of real saison character.

T: Tangerine and peach: smooth, juicy flavors. The hops are sweet, only slightly tart, with a strawberry jelly and grape juice flavor in smaller portions; chewy fruit tastes take up the most of this palate. It’s a marmalade-heavy palate, with accompanying tastes of brown sugar and caramel. Sorghum sweetness with honey and moderately-thick yeast. The finish has a thick syrup flavor, but doesn’t last too long – only a little honey darkness for a second or two.

M: The feel of this one is actually pretty thick; not saison-like at all. Again, it reminds me of an IPA – a malty Three Floyds IPA.

O: What’s the point of a style if you just don’t stick to it? Oh well, it’s a tasty beer, and that’s all I really wanted anyway. It doesn’t satisfy on all levels, but as a standard Three Floyds hop-fest, it’s pretty damn close to a winner.

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Photo of barczar
4.23/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours an opaque ruddy copper color with a solid half inch ivory head that dissipates slowly into a film covering the surface.

Tangerine, grapefruit, and coriander are the first aromatics I detect. There's substantial belgian yeast character, a bit of musty, sweaty barnyard, and an underlying tropical fruit character of mango and pineapple.

Flavor explodes with tropical fruit. Cantaloupe provides the background, with huge lime, mango, and pineapple notes dominating the initial sip. Grapefruit clears the fruit parade, which ends somewhat abruptly with a fairly dry, powdery, peppery finish. Barnyard funk is subdued. The malt character is slightly bready but somewhat grainy, as well.

Body is moderate, with high carbonation that lightens the mouthfeel. There's noticeable alcohol warmth.

Overall, a fruit bomb of a beer, extremely complex. Lacks a lot of farmhouse character, but would be interesting to see how this develops over time.

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Photo of tewaris
3.14/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks Frank!

Doesn't look like a saison... too dark with none of fluffy head etc etc

Interesting aroma... I am smelling (almost) barleywine like malts among other things. Thick, sweet, viscous and malty, and slightly hoppy. This beer is a lot of things but it is not a saison, IMO. Again, that's not important but it's not true to its label either. Among other "flaws", I do not find this remotely refreshing. But overall it cannot be called a bad beer.

2, 3, 3, 3, 4

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Photo of dirtylou
4.15/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bomber, split 3 ways, cheers @suncrust

appearance: served in my great lakes chalice, bright (but hazy) orange body, full creamy white head

smell: distinctively 3 floyds - bright citrus hop bouquet, juicy citrus, distant peppery spice

taste: Sure, it's not to style, but it's much better than Rabbid Rabbit. FFF influence is strong - De Molen is no stranger to hops either but outside of the label design, I would never have guessed they were involved. Bright juicy hops - tangerine, grapefruit, lemon.

mouthfeel: bold hop profile, slight dry finish

overall: very enjoyable

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Photo of JackieTH
3.91/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a glowing reddish orange with a huge, persistent head that leaves copious lacing.

This is quite clearly a saison done FFF style. I'm getting hoppy tangerine citric notes, quite nicely hop forward in fact, though at the same time loading in a good quantity of malt. Spice is present in the form of pepper, also a bit of alcohol comes through. Notes of lemon and citric pith. Medium heavy for a saison. Lingering alcohol and hop flavors, with spice and hop bitterness. Very interesting.

Overall this isn't in my opinion a session saison, its a fairly substantial beast actually. A twist on the style with the recognizable FFF hop signature, which is clearly as intended. I enjoyed, more FFF magic. Why not.

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Photo of Knapp85
4.17/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This poured out as a hazy looking orange color with a nice looking white head on top. The head settles a bit but does leave behind a decent amount of retention and some lacing on the glass. The smell of this beer gives off some very interesting autumn aromas, like un-spiced pumpkin notes and some sweet grains in there too. The taste presents itself with even more unique flavors such as apple and more pumpkin like flavors, there is a hint of some spice or herbal flavors but nothing that I've ever tasted before. The mouthfeel was a bit heavier than I expected but still nicely done. Overall this beer is really neat, I wasn't sure what to expect at all from this but I left an empty glass with a sigh saying to myself "this was a really interesting brew". I would recommend trying this one for sure.

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Photo of deadonhisfeet
3.7/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

My local bottle shop managed to get a small keg of this, which they held back and saved for a big Three Floyds tasting, and they sold pint growlers of it. This tasting sample was poured from a pint growler that same evening into a Dogfish Head snifter. The beer has a dark, orange-apricot color with a bit of a gold tint to it. It's pretty clear, but dark for a saison (although amber is acceptable). There are two fingers of head and it leaves some nice lacing. The nose is very sweet and fruit-forward with big notes of oranges and pineapples, though I don't get much spice or floral hop aroma. Nor do I get any acidic notes.

The beer has a medium body with a really creamy, slick mouthfeel. The flavor is very sweet and fruity up front, without being malty. The sweetness is almost cloying. The sweetness really kind of demolishes any tartness or subtle hoppy dryness one typically finds in this style. The best thing I can say about the sweetness is that it is of the citrus variety - primarily oranges and pineapples (as on the nose). A tiny bit of hop bitterness comes through at mid-palate, contributing a resiny, slightly coppery kind of taste. There is definitely a bit of alcohol warmth on the finish, but not much lingers except some of that citrusy sweetness. Overall, easy-drinking and enjoyable, but not as complex as I had hoped.

If this beer was a bit more hop-forward or had a bit more tartness to balance out some of that sweetness, we could be looking at a 5 beer here. As it is, I really, really enjoyed it. However, despite my appreciation for citrus-like flavors in beer, I think it was just a bit too sweet to be a Saison God.

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Photo of fvernon
3.12/5  rDev -21%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bomber poured into a FFF Teku glass. Looks a lot like gumballhead except for the thicker white head; the marigold orange is a bit surprising for a saison, but hopefully the aroma and taste will bring me back around.

Hmmm... dry-hopped with amarillo? There is some spicy white pepper, alcohol, lemon, and grapefruit on the nose, but the hop-forward quality is sort of building what I am starting to expect this to be: a very FFF take on a saison - a bit maltier and hoppier than I had originally anticipated. The flavor no longer takes me by surprise - a bit sweet, malty, strong on the citrus hops, a strong kick of alcohol, some peppery bite but not much. Although I'm not surprised now, I am a bit disappointed - it's lacking in the dry, light drinkability that I tend to go for in a saison and instead is a bit heavy, sweet, and not dissimilar enough from some of FFF's normal lineup of (delicious) hoppy ales.

Overall it's probably something some folks would really get behind, I'm gonna stick to the FFF brews that they excel at when I want a more hop-forward drink and get my saison fix elsewhere.

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Photo of GJ40
4.05/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Sampled in a chalice from a 22oz bottle purchased at the brewery. No date on the bottle.

A - Golden and hazy with a dense, creamy head. Some lacing as the glass empties.

S - Fruity (orange) and spicy (black pepper). Seems like it has some American hops.

T - Rich flavors with fruit and a firm bitterness. The alcohol is apparent and warming. I started at 50 degrees but it gets even better as it warms.

M - The creamy head greets you and leaves a "got milk" feeling on your upper lip. A silky consistency with a moderate carbonation of fine bubbles.

O - Flavorful and interesting. Feels a bit big for the typical saison characteristics.

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Photo of Florida9
3.62/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Very cloudy orange-amber in color. Forms a moderate sized white head that reduces down to a chunky surface coating and a thick, stable ring around the edge. Moderate lacing.

S: The nose is full of citrus and tropical fruit. Pineapple, mango, and orange with milder notes of fruit salad and sugar cookie.

T: Taste starts with a mild sweetness. Tropical fruit and citrus on the front end. But then it turns alcoholic, peppery, and fusel with a persistent acridness. Finish is long and drawn out.

M: The mouthfeel on this one is odd. Starts juicy, almost sticky, but finishes dry and astringent with an heavy alcoholic heat and spice. Carbonation is medium-heavy.

O: I didn't realize this was a Saison when I popped the bottle (I guess I should read the label in the future) and I never would have guessed it since it's not at all Saison-like. Overall, its a decent beer - I really like the hopping on this one - but I wonder how warm the temperature was on this beer while it was fermenting to have the yeast produce the assaulting alcoholic characteristic that are present in this beer.

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Photo of cfrances33
3.98/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into a teku glass.

Pour: Completely hazy deep orange with two fingers of white head. Head hangs around a little bit, and leaves some nice lacing.

Smell: Pine and grapefruit on the nose. Some lemon zest in the back. This is a saison? ...oh FFF, of course.

Taste: Follows the nose with really, really sticky pine and oranges. Full flavored hop presence that has some saison attributes mixed in. Malt sweetness is pretty nice.

Mouthfeel: Really, really sticky. Wow. I did not expect this from this beer, and I'm not particularly pleased with it. It's good, just not what I wanted.

Overall: A decent beer that is just confused. Hop presence is really up front. Worth a try, but I'll probably spend my money on other FFF beer in the future.

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Photo of WillCarrera
4.25/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 oz bomber, no bottled-on date, poured into a tulip glass. Name translates to 666 in Dutch.

A- Pours a hazy orange color, produces a thick inch of creamy beige head, settles down to a thick layer, nice retention, leaves loads of thick, crusty, gorgeous lacing. It looks amazing.

S- Holy crap the smell, absolutely huge, fresh, juicy citrus aroma, lots of grapefruit and mango. Also getting some nice dank, herbal hops, a bit of yeast and some spicy pepper.

T- Sweeter than I would have expected at the outset, with some sweet orange and tropical fruit flavor, mid-palate some herbal, floral hops pick up, along with a considerable dose of spice and some smooth belgian yeast. The finish is herbal and bitter. Alcohol is very well hidden.

M- Medium-bodied, nice carbonation, smooth crisp feel.

O- An interesting cross between a saison and an IPA (what do you expect from FFF), and it's done extremely well. The hops on this thing are incredibly bold and delicious, while the Belgian yeast and spiciness complement them nicely. A great collaboration. Hail Satan.

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Photo of Sammy
4.05/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Smooth grapefruit juice, hoppy yet not bitter, a great balance of spice and malt makes it a very tasty beverage indeed, also some melon and candy. Grapefruit aroma. Cloudy grapefruit appearance with some retained head. Thanks for the extra bottles, John

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