Razor Hoof | 3 Floyds Brewing Co.

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3 Floyds Brewing Co.
Indiana, United States

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.20%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
Brewed with our friends in the epic band High on Fire, this heavily hopped saison is worthy of razor hoof.

Corpse wolf now raised.

Added by MasterSki on 08-23-2013

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of pmoney
1.57/5  rDev -54.8%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.25 | feel: 2 | overall: 1.5

Served on draft at Three Floyd's.

Total malt-bomb. Murky, unattractive, zero hops, no farmhouse qualities. Just an awful sweet cloudy mess.

I'm not usually a beer-hater, but this was simply terrible. I got through a third of the glass and I decided to ask the bartender about it. I asked if he had had Razor Hoof and if he likes it. He said yes he had it, but it wasn't his thing because he doesn't like Saisons.

It's labeled as a dry-hopped Saison. I told the bartender I really don't care for it at all. He said it's probably because it's dry-hopped and too intense for me. I said, well I don't get any hops whatsoever - it's a total malt-bomb. To that he said "yeah, I can see that".

Uhhh....how can you tell me the beer is intensely hoppy and then agree that it's a malt-bomb?! I asked him if it would be possible to get a half-beer of something else because this wasn't anything like the beer was described. His response was "you can buy another beer if you want". Cool, dick. You don't know anything about beer based on the way you described this, and you're rude to your customers on top of it. This is turning into a typical "Three Floyd's bad service" rant, so I'll end it there.

Verdict: Just terrible.

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Photo of Huhzubendah
2.06/5  rDev -40.6%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

The beer is hazy orange with a hint of crimson. Half inch of off-white head. The aroma offers some resinous hops, malt, bread, sweet fruits, esters, candies. This is NOT a saison. Not even close. FFF makes some great beers. This is not one of them. Even if one were to re-categorize this beer, it doesn't change the fact that it is simply sub-par. No yeast, funk, farmhouse, hay, spice or any characteristics of the style. Too sweet, too hoppy, messy, muddled. Avoid.

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Photo of NewGlarusFan
2.71/5  rDev -21.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

Poured into a 3 F Teku glass.

A) Dark red, cloudy, lots of floating yeast, two finger head and no noticeable carbonation.

S) Apple skin, pine, fig, malt, and honey

T) Apple, yeast, estery, yeast, 3 F ale yeast after taste even though it's a saison. Surprisingly not over hopped as all 3 Fs beers are.

M) Chunky and I got the first pour out of the bomber. It was pour very carefully to avoid yeast over flow.

O) Not a good 3 F beer, Rabid Rabbit is a lot better Saison. It seems 3 F enjoys brew IPAs with different yeast strains.

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Photo of jeonseh
2.87/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

A - Hazy cherry brown and copper body with an off white head

S - Light lemon, spice and wet socks with really not much of a nose 2:75

T - Bitter hops crossed with lemon. A light funk, banana and clove linger in the finish. Bit boozy as well. Light spice and some bitterness from the hops cones thru near the end

M - Really thick with minimal carbonation.

O - Too much going on with the saison aspects hidden by the hops but the hops not able to shine thru with the Saison

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Photo of SportsandJorts
2.87/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75

Appearance: a hazy orange color. Lots of yeasty sediment. Hardly existent head that fades to just about nothing. Lacking the bubbles and the foam I look for

Smell:lots of caramel and crystal malts. Some citrus hops.

Taste: opens up with a mix of citrus and caramel malts. Low to no yeastiness.

Mouthfeel: sticky. Fairly heavy.

Overall: I didn't think three floyds saison would be very true to style and it isn't. Drinks a lot like a reddish slightly hoppy American beer. Needs less malts flavor and more yeast.

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Photo of BEERchitect
2.91/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 2.75

In conjunction with the band "High on Fire", this dry-hopped Belgian-style Saison is projecting an image of dry earthiness with fruit support upon a champagne-like bubbly nature and then exacerbated with bright hop aromatics... yea, none of that happens.

With a pour of deep amber and significant haze, its appearance is further muddled with only creaminess as if it were an Amber Ale. But with strong retention of its ivory-stained head and broken collars of lace, the ale sends strong aesthetic signals- just not consistent with Saison.

The prominent scent of bruised apples take center stage as the nose draws near. But then a mildly toasty, dry caramel scent backs up the fruit with a malty counterpart. But where's the earthy spiciness of Farmhouse Ales? Where's the spice? Where's the hops?

Its taste fares only slightly better as the beer's taste offer more than just bruised red apples- it also offers up mild toasted acidity, coupled with bread crust, light toffee, pepper, husky rye-like character and an earthy "stemmy" taste that's sharp and biting. Still, the complex vinous character is sorely lacking. So is the promised hop character that's basically a no-show.

Without an exact zesty character, the beer's body is semi-creamy and earthy with residual sweetness that keeps the beer heavier on the mouth than is what's desirable for its style. It simply labors onto the middle and late palate with dull oxidized taste and stagnant attempt to dryness.

Regardless what style its proclaimed to be, Razor Hoof really fails to meet the criteria of Saison in any regard. But as a nondescript ale, the bruised apple character provides such strong detraction that its hard to dismiss.

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Photo of WoodBrew
3.03/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

The Razor Hoof has a hard candy root beer taste...at least to me. The beer was poured carefully to avoid the massive sediment at the bottom of the bottle. The color was a clear amber with thin white head that is lacing. The scent does have some hop....but I am getting root beer. The taste has a big conflict between bitter hops, sweet malt...and alcohol. The mouthfeel is fuller in body with good carbonation. Overall this beer is not something I would chose to drink again. The taste is rough and the abv even rougher.

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Photo of vfgccp
3.06/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A - Dark for a saison; deep autumn leaf body. Nice bone-white head with ok retention and nice lace.

S - Caramel, sweet malt, cherry, grass. Almost has a Scotch ale nose.

T - Hay, cilantro, caramel, lemon zest, white bread crust. Bitter herbal backend.

M - Off-style heavy body and low carbonation for a saison.

O - Super malty for a saison. It's an interesting beer, but it's not my favorite take on the style.

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Photo of PHBoiler
3.1/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Red/amber body with some white head that dissipates shortly after pouring. Not much of a nose at all. Couldn't pick out anything specifically. This just tastes of a amber ale with some bittering hops that is fighting to be a saison due to the misplaced yeast. It doesn't satisfy on either end and is a total misfire if you're looking for a saison. If you like Rabbid Rabbit, do not expect anything similar here. Plenty of bitterness and no balance.

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Photo of wordemupg
3.17/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

650ml bomber poured into tulip 5/10/13, thanks MasterSki and Sean9689 for the bottle

A murky brownish orange, some random chunks being pushed around by a stream of bubbles that feed a dense finger of tan foam that leaves two partial rings followed by a few random patches

S smells like a apple orchid just before the big freeze where everything smells like rotting apples and leaves decomposing, I get some caramel and citrus but its overwhelmed

T some faint tropical notes with lots of brown sugar and caramels, tastes like an old IPA but its an improvement over the nose

M thick and syrupy, enters silky and creams up a little from the bubbles than ends up flat, sweet caramel apple finish

O the smell ruins this one for me, if you've ever lived beside an orchid you to would find it hard to shake

no problems finishing the bottle but I could've used a friend or two to take it down, nothing really impressed me and I just couldn't shake the nose, not what I was hoping for from Three Floyds, not all that saison

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Photo of BMMillsy
3.2/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bottle from trade. Big thanks for FFF always! Bomber pours perfectly clear orange, almost red, with a big creamy off white head on top. Looks very pretty. Aroma of hay, charcoal and ash, light biscuits, bit of citrus peel. Flavor is lots of caramel and crystal malts, cherry, hard candy, some trace bitter hay in the background. This isn't a Saison at all, closer to an American Barleywine. Really, think Saison, then think the opposite, that is this beer. Flavor is lacking a bit even there. Medium heavy mouthfeel with medium carbonation. Not a horrible beer or anything, but not really sure what they were going for here.

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Photo of mrfrancis
3.2/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

A: Pours a murky amber with a thick off-white head.

S: Aromas of caramel, biscuit, toffee, sweet cream, grass, herbs, and lemon fill the nose.

T: Notes of lemon, lime, kumquat, bitter orange, sweet cream, biscuit, caramel, toffee, grass, herbs, red apple, and juniper berry wash across the palate. The finish is bitter and hot with grass, herb, and citrus flavors overwhelmed by prickly, peppery alcohol.

M: Medium-to-full in body and initially slick, though it turns sticky around mid-palate. Alcohol presence is initially mild, but becomes increasingly distracting toward the fade.

O: I am just not digging this beer. I do not think that it displays characteristics that would remotely be associated with the best Belgian farmhouse ales, and while I am all for innovation, I dislike it when the brewer seemingly loses sight of the original style. I think that is what has happened here. Nothing about this beer screams saison to me. It seems trapped somewhere in between a couple of styles. Though I am a huge fan of Three Floyds' stuff, I really can't recommend this beer.

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Photo of MasterSki
3.27/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

On-tap at Belgian Fest. Served in the stock Goose Island taster glass.

A - White foam settles to a thin cap and minimal lace. Hazy amber body.

S - Very sweet for a Saison - loads of honey and toffee, with some tropical hop flavors rounding things out. I don't get much Belgian yeast presence at all; not sure I would have guessed this was a Saison to be honest. A bit cloying, but nothing really 'off' per say. Perhaps a touch of apple-y alcohol flavor as it warms.

T - The taste is similarly malt-forward, with fruity esters, toffee, honey, perhaps a touch of brown sugar, and hint of hop bitterness in the finish.

M - Medium-full body, with serious heft for the style. Crisp, pleasant carbonation, and mild dryness in the finish. The feel helps the beer avoid being even more cloying and saccharine that it already is.

D - Not sure what happened here, but this is pretty mediocre. It's like a maltier, crappier version of Zes Zes Zes.

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Photo of DaveAnderson
3.33/5  rDev -4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Thanks to ajwatt for the bottle.

This is one unusual saison. It's cloudy and foamy, which is OK, and it smells like orange rinds. If it's possible to smell like orange pith, then this beer smells like orange pith. It certainly tastes like it. There's a little something else in there, like caramel. But it's only hinted at. This is dominated by orange pith, with a slight tartness and lingering bitterness. Maybe there's some melon in there? It is not a saison by my standards, but I would be hard-pressed to label it, regardless.

In the end, this is just an oddity. It's not unpleasant, but it's weird.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.34/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Thanks to GRG1313 for sharing this one at his tasting.

Pours a hazy honey orange with a foamy beige head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Tiny dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, grain, honey, and slight spice aromas. Taste is much the same with honey and spice flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of hop bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is an above average beer that is drinkable but doesn't really fit the style too well in my opinion.

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Photo of HuskyinPDX
3.5/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle opened on 11.19.13

A - Pours a clear light brown-orange with a large foamy light tan head with solid retention.

S - dirt and Garbage.

T - Malty garbage and rotten fruit.

D - Decent carbonation with a medium body.

O - This bottle is bad, very very bad. I had this on tap at FFF in September, and I though enough of it to buy a bottle. The bottle was very bad. The score will reflect my best experience with this brew.

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Photo of DrewskiWhit
3.52/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A actually a really nice looking beer. Deep cloudy orange color with a thick white head. Nice lacing

S at first there was some citrus, a hint of pineapple juice actually but then it gave way to some funky dark fruits and malt breadiness

T not like any saison I've ever had. Its not bad, if I didn't know any better I might think I was drinking a very mild Belgian quad or something similar. There is some nice hop bitterness. The more I drink it the more I like it.

M pretty standard. Not much else to say really

O wasn't expecting much from this based on the reviews. This was a brewery only release but i purchased it a my local bottle shop so I'm guessing its not selling very well over at the floyds. Not something I'd seek out but it was interesting. Nothing off putting.

Bottom line: a decent beer although I'm not sure this is technically a saison

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Photo of metter98
3.56/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

A: The beer is cloudy yellowish caramel in color and has yeast chunks visible floating in suspension. It poured with a finger high beige head that died down, leaving lacing on the surface, a collar around the edge of the glass and some bubbles down the edges.
S: Light to moderate aromas of caramel hops are present in the nose along with notes of Belgian yeast and spices.
T: The taste is nearly identical to the smell and has some additional hints of toffee. There's enough spices to prevent any sweetness.
M: It feels nearly medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is quite malty for a saison and also seems heavier compared to other beers in the style.

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Photo of portia99
3.56/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle poured into a Tripel Karmeliet tulip.

A - Tries to gush a bit on opening, but fast hands prevents any loss of beer. Pours a bit murky with some noticeable floating yeast particles in the body of the beer. Deep amber in color, ample carbonation bubbles and a thick, fluffy two fingers of khaki foam that shows good staying power.

S - Very citrusy aroma, heavy in oranges - almost tang like in character...a bit of lemony tartness too. A bit yeasty too. Interesting, but not much dimension to it.

T - Sweat, maltose-y malt at the base, thick and a bit heavy. Earthy as well with mild hints of roasted malt. Mild hop bitterness - a bit dull in flavor character, perhaps overwhelmed a bit by the malt. The citrus that was so strong in the aroma is lacking any real presence in the flavor, disappointingly.

M - Medium bodied, but the sweet maltiness makes it feel heavier. Carbonation is rather high, foamy and tingly on the tongue.

O - Not very "saison-y"...heavy handed in the malt department. Nice citrus aspects in the aroma, but lost in the flavor. Not especially impressed - drinkable for sure, but not memorable at all.

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3.58/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz. bottle, with no apparent bottled on date present. My second music collaboration beer from Three Floyds; I've never listened to High On Fire. Expectations are decent given Three Floyds's good reputation, and based on the fact that I enjoyed the last music collab beer I had from them, Three Floyds Evil Power.

Poured into a clear balloon snifter glass.

A - Pours a nice beautiful bright orange colored body with about two fingers of khaki head that thins to a thick foamy ring. Nice streaks of lace.

S - Smell is definitely a bit strange, but very unique. Some grainy wheat-like presence, some sweetness, slight hint of honey, caramel, wet paper, and like others have noted: dead fallen wet leaves & an overripe bushel of rotting apples.

T - Taste is of faded bitter grapefruit / green apple hop sweetness, apricot / peach, some earthiness, caramel malt, and some grain. Tastes more like a faded IPA than it does a saison / farmhouse ale.

M - Feel is bitter and sticky with sugary green apple skin.

Overall, a decent beer, but it is really nothing to brag about. Glad to have gotten to try it for novelty's sake, but this isn't a beer I would want to try again. Too heavily dry-hopped I suppose to fit the actual saison category, because there are hardly any legitimate "farmhouse" characteristics present. A beer to try once and not again.

Three Floyds Razor Hoof ---3.5/5.

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Photo of deadonhisfeet
3.6/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a bottle into a Bell's tulip. The beer pours out a dank, murky burnt orange with a big fluffy white head. Excellent retention and massive lacing. The nose has lots of sweet, over-ripe citrus fruit notes, primarily apricots and oranges.

The beer has a medium body with a sweet flavor profile and a slick, oily feel. Lots of fruit sweetness up front with big hits of pineapple, peach, and nectarine flavors. A fairly well-tempered hop balance greets you at mid-palate, but never really overwhelms all the sweetness. Finish is sweet and a sticky, fruity flavor lingers behind. Not the easiest beer to drink as it lacks balance. All those hops promised on the label clearly did not show up as expected.

Good beer, but definitely not what I would call a good Three Floyds beer. There are no dry floral notes nor is there any funky acidity as one typically finds in a Saison. Moreover (and I never thought I would say this about a Three Floyds beer), it needs more hops. This one tastes more like a Tripel than a Saison. I will always buy a new Three Floyds beer I have never had. They're one of only 3 breweries I have access to whose beers I will buy without hesitation (Founders and Great Lakes are the others). Not sorry I bought it, but won't buy it again.

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Photo of BeerImmediately
3.66/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

22oz bomber picked up at the brewery a couple weeks ago.

Poured into a tulip at about 50 degrees. Large, dense, beige colored head over a very cloudy, dark amber body. Great head retention, and tons of lacing.

Aromas are full of canned pineapple juice - very tropical - along with some papaya, and red apple. Little bit of bready yeast in the background, and a touch of Fall spice. Pretty inviting.

Mouthfeel is awfully smooth for a Saison - bordering on creamy. Light zest from the carbonation, but not much. Flavors don't have the teeth of the aromas, as they do pick up mostly dull apple skins, and old peach. Light bitterness in the finish. Malt comes through a little heavy for my liking. Touch of wet hay accompanies the finish.

Would've liked more brightness and herbal/floral qualities, but it's still a nice, drinkable Saison, given the ABV.

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Photo of TreyIsWilson
3.68/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A - Dark orange with lots of floating yeasts. Two-finger white foam head.

S - Apple and pear with some yeast. Some sweetness of honey and spices.

T - Bitter hops mixed some sweet dark fruits. Some slight earthy funkiness is also present. Tastes like an IPA mixed with a Saison.

M - Medium carbonation with a creamy mouthfeel.

O - A very interesting beer. Decent, but probably would not drink again. Not up to normal Three Floyd's standards.

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Photo of GlassFreeek
3.7/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Had on tap at FFF Brewpub right after they kegged it for the first time.

A: Looks fairly cloudly, murky even. A looks darker and cloudier than your usual saison.

S: Hops, and more hops. Not use to so much hops in a saison nose but I am diggin it! Hoppiest one I've come across, love it.

T: Interesting! Has a very unique flavor that I can imagine 20 different people would all have a different flavor to pinpoint this one. Very interested beer, worth seeking out!

MF: Smooth and easily drinkable, you wouldn't guess this to be 8.5%!

Overall, I wouldn't hesitate to drink this beer but it's not one of the best FFF beers, that's for sure. Worth seeking out, not world class.

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Photo of jrenihan
3.74/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle shared with Liam and Sammy.

Beer is cloudy gold, with a moderately-sized off-white head.

Nose is quite malty and caramel scented. Unusual for the style.

Flavour contains caramel malt and a toasty flavour. Hoppy. Not like any saison I know. I don't really get any yeast flavour. Not bad, but very unusual and with no saison character.

Medium bodied, moderately carbonated.

Overall, a decent beer but not if you are looking for a saison.

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