Woodcut No. 4 - Oak Aged Double Marzen-Style Lager | Odell Brewing Company

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Woodcut No. 4 - Oak Aged Double Marzen-Style LagerWoodcut No. 4 - Oak Aged Double Marzen-Style Lager

Brewed by:
Odell Brewing Company
Colorado, United States

Style: Märzen / Oktoberfest

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by Bitterbill on 06-02-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of Arbitrator
1/5  rDev -74.9%
look: 1 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Chilled bottle into a glass, generously shared by the late chswimmer. Thanks, Ted. From notes.

A: Pours a murky, turbid amber body in the glass. It is capped by a small off-white head that retains poorly and retreats into a thin collar on the beer.

S: Tannic as all hell, with the contributions of herbal and pine hops. It reminds me of burnt rubber a bit, though I typically associate that with over-the-top boozy beers (this isn't one).

T: It begins with a blast of general sweetness, then becomes bitter, herbal, and horribly tannic. No finesse, balance, integration. This is straight-up "let's see what we can toss in a barrel and sell for $25 a pop."

M: It's astringent, light-bodied, and bitter. I couldn't find anything nice to say about this in any of the categories. The beer simply doesn't have the strength to stand up to the barrel, and the result is a clashing series of flavors.

D: $25 a pop! Jesus Hiram Walker Christ. These days the beer scene is a large tribute to the adage, "A fool and his money..."

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Photo of largadeer
1.24/5  rDev -68.8%
look: 3 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Chswimmer shared this one at a recent tasting. Thanks, Craig. I've always wanted to try a barrel aged double marzen-stle lager.

The beer is a murky, hazy amber in the glass, faintly marzen-like but rather turbid. It's topped by a small white cap that recedes to a thick collar.

It smells intensely herbal and medicinal with over the top oak. The more I sniff, the more it smells like rubber to me. There's a bit of pine and a strong spiciness, which is likely the byproduct of the oak as well.

On the palate it's sweet but astringent, herbal and rubbery, grainy, over-oaked and harshly tannic. Dark fruit flavors make a brief appearance in the way of figs and plums. Medium-light in body, the oak completely annihilates the base beer, making for a rubbery astringent trainwreck. Ugh, this is terrible, truly one of the worst beers I can recall having. It finishes with strong tannins and lingering rubber and herbal astringency. This is so incredibly bad, I couldn't choke down more than 2 ounces.

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Photo of cpmichael
2.3/5  rDev -42.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1

Poured into a New Belgium Tulip.
Bottle #3038 May 2010.

A: Pours a ruby-red, with a high amount of foam.

S: An overwhelming new wood smell, with a soapy clean smell. '

T: Initial thoughts are this tastes like a 2 X 4. A fresh cut new wood smell. There is some almond that comes through near the end. The alcohol is heavy near the finish.

M/D Once you can get past the in your face 2 X 4 smell and flavors you can get a feel for the base for this beer, which is also not very good. I tried real hard to find some enjoyment in this beer, but I wasn't having it.

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Photo of BearsOnAcid
3.18/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Hazy maroon color. Big off-white head. Piney, floral, strong toast from the oak. Sweet malt flavor and more oak. The sweetness and toast raises a french toast and vanilla comparison. This beer just seems like a boozy malt bomb with a ton of oak. Moderate carbonation and MORE oak on the finish.

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Photo of nickd717
3.35/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A -bal aged lager, huh? Let's see.

Pours hazy medium amber with a small but lasting whitish head.

Aroma is oak and vanilla, sweet malt, caramel, and toffee.

Flavor is mildly sweet, very oaky, and a little piney. Decent hop bitterness. Not as tasty as expected.

Nice dry palate. Medium-full bodied and a little syrupy.

A little underwhelming overall, but a nice experiment.

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Photo of Bubba83
3.4/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 750ml bottle into an Allagash tulip-ish glass at 45-50 degrees. Pours with a ton of head, seems quite overcarbonated, almost overflowed my glass despite a gentle pour. The body appears a lot like iced tea, dark brown with maybe the slightest orange tinge. Off white, almost light tan head. Retention is crazy, lacing is fair.

Huge alcoholic cherry note overwhelms everything else in the aroma department, but it's actually fairly pleasant, somewhat reminiscent of Troegs Mad Elf. Maybe a bit of phenolic banana character too along with a sweet bready malt backbone.

Tastes very sweet, huge fruitcake type sweet pastry bread type flavors with candied cherries. Banana plays a role here too, along with some caramel and butterscotch. A decent bit of vanilla and oak crop up underneath. Finishes with a spicy alcoholic kick.

Feels pretty smooth, big and chewy, perhaps a bit more carbonated than I would have thought for such a big beer, especially one that has been oak aged, I'm used to them being less spritzy on the tongue.

Overall I thought this was about average. It didn't really surprise me in any way and I'm generally not a fan of such sweet beers. The flavors that comprised that sweetness were a bit different than the normal ones I get though, which is why I still found it enjoyable overall. This series is proving to be way too expensive, especially when compared to the quality of other cheaper Odell beers.

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Photo of Thorpe429
3.43/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a copper color with some rust-colored highlights. White head and a bit of lacing. Smells malty with some caramel alongside a bit of oak. Something doesn't quite fit--maybe tannins from the oak alongside a slight graininess. Taste is along similar lines. Mouthfeel is rather dry and a bit boozy. Drinkability is affected by all these factors. Not the most impressive offering I've had from Odell.

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Photo of emmasdad
3.48/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Went into this one with a little trepidation, as I was very unimpressed with #2, the only other one I've had in this series. Pours a darkish amber color, with a bit of off white head. Aromas of wood, cherries, coconut and toffee. On the palate, the toffee/caramel flavors stand out, but the wood/oak balances nicely. Much better than #2, and one I would try again.

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Photo of rye726
3.68/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Was not overly impressed with this one. Probably my least favorit out of the series. Poured from a 750ml bottle into a snifter at room temperature.

Nose a dark brown with a thin tan head. Has some nice bready malts and oak. Nothing too complex. A bit boozy. Not bad, but not worth $25 a bottle.

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Photo of womencantsail
3.7/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Richard for leaving this one for us drunkards to funnel.

A: The pour is a slightly hazy copper color with a fluffy white head and plenty of carbonation.

S: Quite sweet with plenty of vanilla on the nose. There are plenty of sweet malt notes as well, namely caramel with lots of bread as well. A bit of alcohol as well, but not overly boozy.

T: Thankfully, this is not as overwhelmingly oaky as some of the other Woodcuts are. As mentioned in the smell recap, the barrel character is up front and well represented: good vanilla and whiskey flavors, along with some oak. Quite a bit of booze, unfortunately, and the sweet caramel and bready malts don't sufficiently mask that fact.

M: A medium body, which is something I was worried about due to the lager factor. Plenty of carbonation as well.

D: Overall, not a bad beer at all, but just too hot. I would let this one mellow out before opening a bottle of this.

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Photo of nerdrocker101
3.7/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours burnt amber with a very large and frothy head. I had to let it set a little before finishing my pour.

The aroma has notes of apple, cinnamon and caramel. Very reminiscent of a dish my grandmother used to make frequently in which she cored an apple an filled it with cinnamon and brown sugar then baked. It is almost spot on.

Flavors of caramel, faint raisin and spicy vanilla. Somewhat hot, but not unbearable mixed with some burnt sugar notes. Very malty with just a bit of resiny hops in the finish.

It certainly has a sticky feel. Just a bit dry and almost tart.
I think this beer is borderline English barleywine, but good nonetheless. I guess as you up the abv, it's only natural that it would take on those characteristics.

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Photo of Beaver13
3.73/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

750 ml bottle. Bottled May 2010 - bottle number 1617. Pours a hazy tea brown with a monstrous creamy off-white head that retains well and laces the glass.

The aroma is caramel malts, vanilla, wood, some spices and dark fruit and alcohol.

The flavor is caramel malts and vanilla, with some fruits and a spicy cinnamon alcohol finish with a little bitterness. The mouthfeel is medium to full bodied with lowish carbonation.

Overall, it's a little hot and a bit on the sweet side, but I liked it.

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Photo of DavoleBomb
3.76/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a snifter. Bottle #2141, from May 2010. I was a big fan of #2 and #3, so I had to purchase this as well.

3.0 A: Murky plum brown color. Two plus fingers of frothy beige head. Retention is below average and a very short ring of lacing is left.

4.5 S: Like the past incarnations of the woodcut series, this too delivers the oak big time. Oak, oak, vanilla, oak, nuttiness, and oak. The base, though admittedly hard to find, works well with the barrel. Sweet neutral maltiness with some caramel and toastiness. Really wonderful smelling. Well done.

3.5 T: The flavors in this are intense to say the least. Again, tons of oak and vanilla. A mild nuttiness. Toasty with caramel and a hefty neutral malt sweetness. You can also taste the lager yeast, if that makes sense. I really like the way this tastes, but it's pretty damn sweet and I scored it accordingly.

4.0 M: Heavy body. Good moderate carbonation. Good creaminess. This would be smoother if it was less sweet, but still good enough.

3.5 D: Not the most drinkable beer, but it certainly is a bold one. Huge oak like it's brothers and a big Bruery sweetness to bring out the diabetes in everyone.

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Photo of mdfb79
3.8/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From 09/15/10 notes. Had at a local DC tasting.

a - Pours a dark amber color with one inch of white head and nice lacing.

s - Smells of molasses, dark fruit, spices, vanilla.

t - Tastes of caramel malts, sugar, dark fruit.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation.

d - A little bit sweet, but a good beer none the less. Would like to try some of the other beers in the series. Would try again.

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Photo of Sammy
3.88/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Best marzen I ever had. I hate to bring dwn the average rating, but to me its still, well, a marzen. Bold malting. Thank you for sending JMBSH. Was geat with supper, particular washing down the fish. Good drinkability but of course thsi quantity must and was shared. Good head, malty aroma. Vanilla.

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Photo of claspada
3.88/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle #1307, bottled in May 2010. Courtesy of my favorite mid-west trading partner G311.
Pours a slightly hazy deep copper color with a large fluffy white head and plenty of carbonation; leaves a nice bubbly lacing as well.

Aromas begin quite sweet with plenty of vanilla. There are plenty of sweet biscuity malt notes; some breadiness as well. As it warms you get a little of the doughy and bready lager yeast notes which were undetectable initially. In the way background you get a bit of alcohol, but not really even enough worth mentioning considering this is a 11% beast.

The tastes begin with layers of bready and biscuity malts. Then you are greeted with the nice subtle oaky and woody flavors. Both are balanced very nicely; by no means is this a wood-bomb. As you re-examine you detect the flavors from the barrel including good vanilla and some tannic flavors usually associated with wine (tobacco, leather and apple) but are all secondary to the vanilla and general "woody" flavors. There is a slight slight slight sour oak twang. Really very chewy and doughy like a slightly undercooked buttermilk biscuit. As it warms the iodine/sourness and alcohol emerge much more making this less drinkable. The "lager" malt bill and imperial level of alcohol leave the unbalanced ABV/style flaws more apparent as you reach the lower half of the bottle, this is best served at colder temperatures

The mouthfeel is medium bodied, which is something I was worried about due to the lager factor (I hate 95% of lagers I have tasted because they taste watery and stripped of flavor), but this one delivers. Plenty of carbonation as well which I also really enjoy and prefer compared to the flat, lifeless barrel-aged messes which are becoming far too common in today's craft beer industry.

Overall, I enjoyed this beer for the most part. I have not had a bad offering from Odell's barrel collection beers, but I greatly prefer the Woodcut No. 3 and the Deconstruction to this. From what I have read and experienced these Woodcut's need at least a year to settle/merge their flavors properly so I recommend this and any future offering only after aging to properly enjoy them at their peak. Another quality offering from Odell's barrel aging program although this is the first one I do not really "want/need" to revisit. Still quite good though.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
3.88/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Sampled July 2011
A smell of light tartness wafts my way after cracking the cork. A steady pour into my Lost Abbey Teku glass produces a fat-two-finger thick, pale amber tinged, tan colored head; as I work my way through this beer some spotty, spidery lacing clings to the side of my glass. The beer has a pretty red-amber color that shows clear pale cranberry and gold color in light. A full look at nose shows no tartness, but i would guess it was the oak, which certainly plays big role here. A toasted, woody oak mixes with caramelized maltiness that has lots of biscuit like malt character and pale-toasted whole grain notes. buttery oak and even oak fruit or tartness if that makes sense. As the beer warms up more of the sweetness comes out, this definitely accentuates the caramel character (it almost has a fruitiness to it even) and there is even a touch of nuttiness to the nose.

There is a viscous heft and chewy, caramel maltiness that lingers on the palate with a textured heft. finish has tart spicy oak and some astringency. up front the spicy, sharp and woody oak melds nicely with the sweet, caramel malt notes. Toasted oak melds with biscuit malt and chewy, almost savory whole grain flavors. The spiciness seems to also come from nice hop character; slightly herbal, soft touch of biting bitterness, maybe even fruit accentuating. oak does somehow contribute a very subtle tartness, adds another dimension (I am pretty sure there is not something else contributing this tartness). As the beer warms up a nice vanilla note from the oak starts to come out, this works well with the richly caramelized malt character.

A second pour has me noticing an almost smokiness to this beer in the aroma, and it is there in the flavor as well; this seems to be a product of the malt and the oak character. It can seem a touch hot in the finish at times, though it is not much if you consider how strong this beer is.

The oak character, while certainly playing a big role here, is not so omnipresent as to clash with the base beer. The mix of oak and malt is actually quite nice; the fact that the beer is quite sweet helps with this, without the oak it would be cloying, but the two achieve a certain balance. This is never going to be anything but a sipping beer though. Tasty enough, though it can seem a touch too cloying at times.

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Photo of corby112
3.91/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml shared with shadowane.

Pours a dark ruby color with a two finger frothy white head that slowly fades into a lasting cap/ring. Rings and chunks of soapy lacing left behind.

Earthy aroma with lots of wood/oak along with sweet malts and autumnal spice. Toasty with strong wood profile as well as some caramel, nut, toffee, cinnamon and brown sugar. At first all oak but becomes more complex as it warms.

Medium bodied with slight creamy texture and a very strong oak barrel presence that dominates. Lots of toasted oak that overpowers the flavor up front but soon gives way to autumnal spice and sweet malt notes.  Hints of cinnamon and brown sugar followed by sweet caramel, hazelnut, biscuit and toffee. The high AbV is excellently masked with no heat whatsoever.  This beer has a strange flavor profile and since the virgin oak is so strong it slightly overpowers the other notes, lingering into a bone dry finish.    Still, this beer is pretty flavorful and in my opinion, the dry oak flavor goes well with the characteristics of the marzen style.

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Photo of rawfish
3.96/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Comes in 750ml corked, caged Belgian style bottle
Bottle No. 3727, May 2010. Split three ways.

A: Pours a beautiful copper-red hue with a foamy 2 finger light tan head. Some patches of sticky lacing.

S: Smells of honey and sweet malts some vanilla and toffee. Some wet oak. The wood profile is there but I wished it had been more dominant.

T: Vanilla, even more oaky flavors than the nose, maybe some bourbon and caramel. Strong flavors but not much diversity.
Finished a little sweet with warming alcohol which was more noticable than I would've liked.

M: Medium to full bodied and medium carbonation with lots of fine bubbles. Smooth and creamy over the palate but with a sharp dry release as the alcohol lets you know it's still there.

D: Fantastically drinkable for an 11% but still sort of hot, great body on this lager and it was smooth all the way through. Glad I got the opportunity to try it.

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Photo of tempest
4/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Split a bottle with friends. Very interesting. It's deeply floral and herbal with a smooth whiskey-like vanilla taste. The aroma is similar, with a bit more focus on the vanilla. The flavor, by comparison is fruitier with light apple and citrus notes. Frankly I can't taste much Marzen, but it's a fine strong ale.

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Photo of camp0474
4/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Review from 10/23/10

A: Pours a dark orange amber color with nice tan head.

S: Sweet toffee malt smells with strong notes of vanilla and oak. Detectable alcohol.

T: Sweet vanilla and fresh oak with sweet toffee malt. Some hoppy bitterness appears at the end.

M: Medium body with medium carbonation, fine carbonation bubbles. Creamy mouthfeel from bottle conditioning.

D: Pretty drinkable for a beer this strong. Lots of good flavors. Good show of oak aging.

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Photo of spicelab
4.01/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of mulder1010. Shared at tasting. Transcribed from scrappy notes.

Bright blood orange with minimal saffron head.

Oaked strawberry, tart orange and grapefruit pith with very smart and perky woody edges.

Toffee apple, strawberry jam, tart citrus and spearmint in a sea of complex, cedary oak.

Medium with benign carbonation. Feels closer to 8 than 11%

Lovely stuff. Would never have guessed at the style, but arbitrarily adopting the nearest comparison of an oak-aged wild ale, it stands up very commendably. Only wish I'd had more than 4oz to enjoy.

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Photo of riored4v
4.02/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Reviewed 8/1/10

Poured into a tulip. Fluffy, 3 finger beige colored head that held strong. Copper colored with ruby hues.

Smell had big notes of vanilla and oak. Some good malty sweetness, toastiness and mild raisin.

Taste, again, was strong on oak and vanilla. Some mild hotness from abv. Mildly spices finish that was low in bitterness. Mildly malty, notes of raisin, caramel and lightly toasted.

Medium body, medium carbonation and a fair amount of stickiness that coats the tongue and finish. Seems a bit overly sticky.

Drinkability was ok. To much oak, hotness and overall high abv limits it.

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Photo of Jason
4.05/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

750ml brown magnum, corked and caged. Bottling date on the label.

Aggressive head but with careful pouring there is no overflow ... just a massive rocky head. Dark brassy color shows off its clarity. Fresh oak, bready malt, ripe freshly peel oranges, spicy alcohol and hops with a clean nutty yeast backing all fill the nostrils. Very deep smoothness with an extremely creamy body. Spicy, warming alcohol and a think wood character. Maltiness is layered underneath with unfolds with caramel and bready flavors. Hops ring in pretty hard with a firm bitterness and long linger of flavor. Hint of orange and raisin with more spicy alcohol in the semi-sweet finish that eventually gets pulled down buy the wood.

A sipper and a lovely one at that. Encore please!!

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Photo of harrymel
4.05/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

So, this is a DOUBLE Marzen style oak aged lager. Bottled May 2010.

A: Pours an orange on red lager with a single finger of caramel head which falls over a couple minutes to a solid sheet of the same. Excellent clarity. Spotty on cobweb lacing.

S: As the title suggests, wood is king here. Oak, fired oak, sour oak, fresh oak. The beer has multiple layers of the tree playing with an herb I can't quite place, but it reminds me of Turkish food - it's very strong. Maybe tee-tree oil.

T: Man, I wish I could place this flavor, because it dominates the palate. Maybe it's just oak, but it has a distinct pine flavor. I can say that As the beer warms, there are some nice malt flavors of caramel and vanilla. Again, this is woody.

M: Medium to heavy for the style, moderate carb. Dry finish is spot on and aromatic.

O: Really interesting beer. I would definitely drink again. I don't know I would seek it out, but that's more or less because it is so strong on a flavor profile which is obscure if not unique to this beer. I think it is unfortunate that the beer has to be categorized under the marzen style, given that the beer is a Double/Imperial Marzen. Kudos to Odell heading a different direction with beer, and I'm glad I got to try this one.

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Woodcut No. 4 - Oak Aged Double Marzen-Style Lager from Odell Brewing Company
3.98 out of 5 based on 107 ratings.
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