Cellar 3: Silva Stout
Green Flash Brewing Co.

Cellar 3: Silva StoutCellar 3: Silva Stout
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Style:
American Imperial Stout
ABV:
10.1%
Score:
83
Avg:
3.64 | pDev: 25.55%
Reviews:
126
Ratings:
418
From:
Green Flash Brewing Co.
 
California, United States
Avail:
Retired (no longer brewed)
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SCORE
83
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Cellar 3: Silva StoutCellar 3: Silva Stout
Notes: Our Double Stout ages in oak bourbon barrels, and artfully emerges as Silva Stout. This midnight black ale features elegant notes of oak, vanilla, dark chocolate, coffee, roasted barley and ripe cherry. Round and delicately balanced in body, each sip envelops the palate with its impressively complex craft composition.

45 IBU
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Photo of Phil-Fresh
3.58/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2015 Bottle

A: Deep brown color, with a black hue, opaque, with almost no head at all.

A: Bourbon forward, with deep chocolate-like roast malts with noticeable stone fruit aromas.

T: Chocolate/coffee like malts, fairly sweet, dried fruit like esters, with a moderate amount of bourbon and oak.

M: Full bodied with moderately light carbonation and light alcoholic warmth.

O: Alright; the beer doesnt have a lot of stout character, a bit on the sweet side with dried fruit character that pairs alright, but not great with the extended barrel aging.

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Photo of Sabtos
3.28/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

Coffee brown with a large tan foam head.

Smell is roasty and woody with nuts and chocolate, but a little musty staleness.

Taste is toffee, cola, chocolate, roasted nuts, and wood, but hot.

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Photo of GuyFawkes
2.96/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Bottled 2/16/15; drank 8/8/15 @ Harvest Hop Haus.

Poured from the bottle into a glass.

Black/brown appearance.

Dark tan head; minimal lace.

Fresh rubber & burnt caramel notes in the nose; odd & off-putting.

Thick mouthfeel.

A terrible mixture of rubber & burnt caramel flavors; this was awful. Hopefully this flavor was not their intention...

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Photo of BeerStud187
1.23/5  rDev -66.2%
look: 4 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1.25

Infected. Look, if you brew a beer and it gets infected, I understand, it happens. But don't serve it to your customers. Bite the bullet, pour it down the drain, and preserve your good name.

Maybe this is a good beer and I just got a bad batch, but what I was served tastes like ammonia and vinegar raw dogged on vacation in Cancun and gave birth to this abomination in a gas station restroom. Not cool, man. I expected your "experimental tasting room" to be a cool place for beer snobs, not for people who have to experiment with drugs to be able to choke down your beer.

Maybe you shouldn't buy cheap infected barrels to age all your beers in?

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Photo of Jadjunk
3.27/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

"Our Double Stout ages in oak bourbon barrels, and artfully emerges as Silva Stout. This midnight black ale features elegant notes of oak, vanilla, dark chocolate, coffee, roasted barley and ripe cherry. Round and delicately balanced in body, each sip envelops the palate with its impressively complex craft composition." Brewed in the style of an American Imperial Stout, aged in Bourbon barrels, available in 750ml. bottles and on limited draft. Entry #1 in the Cellar 3 series.

Poured from a 750ml. bottle to a snifter glass.

(Appearance) Pours a crisp, frothy head of an ecru-brown shade over a dark brown body. Retention is below average and lacing is light and spotty. 3.75

(Smell) Strong aromatic notes of bourbon barrel aging- oak tannins, vanilla and tart cherry, alongside malt characters of chocolate, roasted barley and toasted crystal grains. Very noticeable stone fruit profile in this beer, with a simple malt character that takes a backseat. Some evident diacetyl, toffee and buttery notes. Potency is moderate. 3.5

(Taste) Chocolate, moderate roast barley, caramelized sugars forming a gentle malt base with a light sweetness- a rich, tangy and robustly fruity midsection and finish of bourbon-soaked cherries, moderately medicinal with an evident, but acceptable level of diacetyl, complete with bourbon oak tannins and vanilla. Kind of messy on the back-end, with not much stout character otherwise- a bit of a wash in the end as it wasn't terrible but not very enjoyable and certainly not close to my style expectations. 3

(Mouthfeel) Texture is slick, moderately residual, medium dry. Carbonation is moderate, generating a medium frothiness and a moderately dry finish. Body is medium for the style, medium/heavy overall. Balance is slightly grainy and tangy over sweet. Alcohol presence is moderate and off characters include notable diacetyl, which contributes to the medicinal and band-aid subtleties in this beer's flavor, possibly indicative of infection, although it is not jarring, it certainly doesn't come off clean. 3.5

(Overall) I'm not sure what the end result was expected to be, but this beer is an example of a not-so-great barrel-aging experiment. Not much stout character exists in this beer, and fruitiness is sharply pronounced, and a bit overbearing- combined with the bourbon, very sharp and medicinal. Drinkable, but harsh in quite a few spots and overall not too great. It's hard to mess up a stout, but this one I won't seek out again. 3.25

Green Flash Brewing Co.'s
Cellar 3: Silva Stout
3.27/5.00

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Photo of GreesyFizeek
3.14/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

On tap at the Village Tavern in Geneseo, NY.

This one pours a darker black hue, with a small head, and a slight bit of lacing.

Smells like creamy coffee, bitter roasted malt, sweet fruit, oak, and bourbon.

On draft, this doesn't seem to be quite the infected butter bomb the bottles seem to be, but it's still not that great, anyway. There's a weird oak-like astringency that takes away from everything, almost burnt tsating, and it's not pleasant. There is some nice coffee, molasses, and dark fruit, the finish is just rough. I don't know, man.

This is medium bodied, pretty creamy, with a normal level of carbonation.

This is not in the upper tier of BA stouts, at least in this incarnation. It's unfortunate as I heard the original release of this was fire.

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Photo of justinp444
2.99/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 2.75

Batch 01 Dated Feb 16 2015, drank of 6/12/16 poured into a snifter it has a black body with a thick foamy beige head of a quarter inch. Smell of butter, bourbon, vanilla, slight oak, burnt sugar, and chocolate. Taste is actually pretty decent for a butter bomb; up front is nice milk chocolate, caramel. vanilla, some slight coffee, bit of bourbon, earth, and then immediately followed by quite a bit of butterscotch and popcorn flavor. Mouth feel is nice silky full with a full body and moderate to full carbonation. A decent BA stout even if it is infected, wish I could've had one that wasn't.

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Photo of Damian
2.85/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 1.75 | overall: 2.5

Drank from a 750 ml. (1 pt. 9.4 fl. oz.) corked and caged bottle purchased at Liquor World, Cambridge, MA
2015 Batch 01
Brewed in April 2013
Bottled on February 16, 2015
Served in a snifter

Dark brown appearance. A bit thinner than anticipated. The body was topped by a tight, frothy, near finger tall, saddle brown head that quickly transformed into a lasting halo. A few steaks of lacing trickled along the glass.

The nose was pretty solid. Initially, I though I was spared by getting one of the rare, non-infected bottles. Quite roasty. Good amount of dark chocolate. Fairly sweet. Brown sugar came through strong. Boozy but rather pleasant. There was a slight buttered popcorn quality, but I have smelled far more in other beers. As the beer sat, the aroma intensified. The sweetness really came forth, as did the bourbon. Loads of brown sugar. Good dose of powdered cocoa. Dark fruits were noticeable. Bit of vanilla bean too.

Unlike the aroma, the flavor profile was quite disappointing. It was overly roasty and piercingly boozy yet quite thin. This tasted like charred malts mixed with straight whiskey. Slightly sour with notes of wet paper as well. With time, subtle brown sugar notes came forth, particularly on the front end. Moderately sweet. Bit of bourbon. The bourbon intensified as the beer warmed. The finish was super oaky and tannic. Really astringent. Ashy notes and a harsh booziness lingered after the swallow.

The mouthfeel was really thin and highly over carbonated. This hardly felt like a stout, never mind an imperial stout. The liquid was light, frothy and fizzy on the palate.

For a beer that was clearly infected, Silva Stout had a pretty nice aroma and a passable flavor profile. I would love to sample a non-infected bottle of this beer, as I could imagine it being rather interesting and complex.

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Photo of stevoj
2.62/5  rDev -28%
look: 3 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.5

Catch up rating from Saturday's RS bottle share. The rumors of infection were swirling, and indeed something seemed a little off here. At that price point, I would feel ripped off....

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Photo of cultclassic89
1.2/5  rDev -67%
look: 4.25 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Annnnd butter. I'm sure there's already 100 reviews on how this tastes and smells like movie theater butter. Okay, maybe it doesn't feel like butter, but it's not going to save the beer.

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Photo of BlurryVisi0n
3.43/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served in a snifter glass from a 750ml bottle.

Appearance: Pitch dark black body which comes off slightly thin and thick tan head which drops with a bit of an uneven lacing after one sip.

Smell: Pure liquor and butterscotch scent, the light aroma of burnt brown sugar is there but still light.

Taste: This is where this brew might lose point with a lot of people, the whiskey notes are so overpowering that it almost becomes a "bourbon" by choice. It's sweet with heavy butterscotch and light coffee with sweet caramel. The liquor barrel wood notes a bit much.

Mouth: Sticky, but comes off a bit flat with a light sour finish. Also a slight dry, let it warm to room temperature you will understand.

Overall: Good brew but when you factor in the price I have much better options. It's more of a beer where you can skip or maybe sample enough for a review. Salud!

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Photo of mothman
1.14/5  rDev -68.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Bottled February 2015

Can't tell if it's infected or not.

The nose has an odd dusty flavor.

Tan head. Black color. I don't think this is an infected bottle but it doesn't taste anything like the old silva stout tasted like.

Has a cherry flavor. Lots of roast. Oak and bourbon.

The more I drink this the more I realize it's actually infected.

So much butterscotch. Not ever drinkable. Disgusting. Drainpour.

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Photo of GarthDanielson
3.94/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2015. Poured from a 750 cork and cage into a schooner, the beer is jet black, with a foamy, dense, low profile, light tan head. Aromas of rich and woody oak forward, with a backbone blend of milk chocolate, vanilla, subtle mocha, and roasted notes. Very sweet and rich blend with heavy woody characteristics. Flavors are sweet milk chocolate forward, with subtle charred wood accents, hints of coffee and booze, rich vanilla and bourbon notes, and a subtle warmth at the back end of the palate. Very smooth and sweet, and extremely drinkable, on a velvety smooth, soft body. The aftertaste has a little more roast and char to it, with a more mocha coffee flavor. Smooth, slow finish with a solid sweet, slightly cloying linger. Very tasty and very drinkable. Not very bourbon heavy, but the bourbon notes in there work well. I feel bad for the other reviewers that got infected ones, because the beer I just had was pretty damn smooth and tasty.

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Photo of SawDog505
3.11/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured into a 16 oz snifter bottled in 2015. Pours a gorgeous almost completely black, with a 2 inch brown head that leaves a ring of lace as it settles into a layer of brown foam, pretty as hell.

Smell toffee, bourbon, vanilla, smoke, and expresso.

Taste follows but I can't figure out if it is actually infected or if something else went wrong. This is not what I would expect the double stout to taste like in Bourbon Barrels. Loads of toffee, smoke, vanilla, oak, leather, tobacco, and some stale coffee.

Mouthfeel thinner than expected, more carbonation than most BA beers, dry for sure, and considering the odd taste drinkable enough.

Overall I think this was a bad batch knowing what Double Stout normally is, but not horrid. Confused? ???

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Photo of rodbeermunch
1.41/5  rDev -61.3%
look: 3 | smell: 1.25 | taste: 1.25 | feel: 1.25 | overall: 1.5

Man this was an awesome beer when in 12oz bottles. Now, it sucks.

Muddled brown and black color, even in the appearance it looks like something is going wrong. Almost no head. Aroma was putrid infection, butterscotch through a sewer line.

Taste was same place, drain pour territory almost immediately. Only drank enough to have enough insight into how infected and terrible this was.

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Photo of brewskifan55
4.1/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a teku glass on New Year's eve.

A: Black with a tan 4 finger head that lingers. Thick lacing.

S: Chocolate, smoke, dark fruit, oak, vanilla, cherries.

T: Thank goodness this wasn't a tainted batch. Follows nose with a hearty, smoky presence. Oak and vanilla coat the tongue along with chocolate. Then those devilish cherries with a red wine vibe finish the experience. Even better as it warms.

M: Medium to heavy with great carbonation. Chewy.

O: After reading all the bad reviews, I was concerned. But this bottle was a winner. No skunks here. A great New Year's sipper. Cheers!

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Photo of Treyliff
3.01/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

750ml bottle poured into a snifter

Pours pitch black with a foamy khaki colored head. Smells of caramel, butter, dark roasted malt & bourbon. Tastes of butterscotch, melted butter, dark chocolate & bourbon. Medium body and carbonation, foamy mouthfeel and finish. $20 wasted on an infected beer, robbery.

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Photo of csoffg43
2/5  rDev -45.1%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

Thin watery disappointing version of what I remember as a phenomenal beer from several years ago. Signs of infection and not what I wanted to go with the ribs I smoked on my big green egg for Christmas dinner. I wish it wasn't infected, but since it is, it's going to go down the drain. Bummer.

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Photo of sulldaddy
4.07/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Sampling a 750 ml bottle batch 01 bottle 2/16/2015 and poured at cellar temp into a snifter.
The beer pours a deep cola brown with dark tan creamy head of 3-4 cm foaming up and fading slowly to a sturdy surface layer with some clingy lattice pulling the edge layer slightly up the glass.
The aroma is rich and malty and I dont get the butterscotch diacetyl notes that seem to hit a lot of these bottles. Whew. There is dark chocolate and dark fruit, plums and raisin hits for sure. I dont get any coffee notes but otherwise the nose is good.
First sip reveals a silky smooth texture with very fine carbonation, nice physical traits on this beer.
FLavor is sweet malt with chocolate and again some dark fruit, plums mainly. Here I do get a little creaminess on the flavor, maybe butterscotch sort of like a werthers, but it is mild and in the background. Finish is roasted and a little boozy. The alcohol definitely kicks in a little towards the end of the bottle. Overall the beer is interesting and complex and I enjoy it and Im glad I didnt get an infected bottle because this is far from a drain pour.

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Photo of LloydDobler
2.31/5  rDev -36.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.25

Previous reviews of infection. This is also one of them. I hate to rate a bottle that didn't have a chance to begin with, but this is my first experience with an infected beer. If anything, I'm glad that i got a chance to taste it, so I have a point of reference in the future.

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Photo of tbryan5
2.25/5  rDev -38.2%
look: 4 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

I have been holding on to this bottle for a long time in the hopes that it was not one of the infected bottles. And was I disappointed...

A- Pitch black with minimal tan head.
S- Butter, butter, and more butter. Like the Country Crock Factory.
T-I can get a sense of what this beer was supposed to be and it had potential, but now nothing...
M-Medium Carbonation
D- I don't drain pour many beers but this one joined the handful. I'm hoping that they can redeem themselves on the next one...

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Photo of spoony
2.24/5  rDev -38.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.25

From a 750 ml (Batch 1, Bottled February 16, 2015) to a snifter.

A-The beer is dark brown; actually a somewhat attractive mahogany color. The tan head, however, doesn't look right, too active and roiling with movement in the glass. Hmm....

S-The aroma is a buttery mess. Aside from the chemical butter smell, I sniff some dark fruit, white vinegar, and an odd funkiness that suggests oud bruin or flanders red, but in a bad way that is just sort-of off.

T-The taste is similarly buttery and messy. I get a bit of milk chocolate, some white-vinegar sourness, prunes, and more strange funkiness. It isn't putrid, but this clearly is not what the brewers intended to happen. No barrel whatsoever.

M-The feel is lighter than it should be for the style with and odd, fine carbonation.

O-This one is clearly off the rails. Bummer.

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Photo of Parmesan
3/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Look: Dark brown mostly opaque. Creamy brown reddish head with no lacing.

Smell: Vinegar smell, some dark fruits, little bit of bourbon. Also reminds of the smell of an our bruin, which isn't good for a stout.

Taste: Very similar to the smell. Tastes like an of bruin. Some bourbon, but not much vanilla or toastiness. Doesn't taste much like a stout.

Feel: Fairly creamy mouthfeel and light carbonation

Overall: Think this bottle was infected, it wasn't terrible but didn't taste like a stout, more souring and out bruin like.

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Photo of johnnnniee
2.4/5  rDev -34.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2.25

On tap at The American Craft Beer Fest Yesterday.
Rich coffee and chocolate with a huge hit of diacytyl. This one isn’t right and shouldn’t be served.
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Update 7/18/16 On tap at Village Tavern Geneseo, NY, yup this is infected. Some lacto or pedio more likely is giving this a cherry pie tartness oh and still lots of buttery goodness.

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Photo of ilikebeer03
2.18/5  rDev -40.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Terrible beer. a buttery mess. had really high expectations going in, but turns out no. don't know if it was infected or what. nose wasn't as bad, but the taste is all butter.

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Cellar 3: Silva Stout from Green Flash Brewing Co.
Beer rating: 83 out of 100 with 418 ratings