Palate Wrecker | Green Flash Brewing Co.

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Green Flash Brewing Co.
California, United States
greenflashbrew.com

Style: American Double / Imperial IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Originally brewed to celebrate Hamilton's Second Anniversary

Added by seaoflament on 10-04-2008

BEER STATS
Ratings:
4,121
Reviews:
757
Avg:
4.14
pDev:
10.39%
 
 
Wants:
215
Gots:
708
For Trade:
5
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Photo of kojevergas
2.58/5  rDev -37.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Bottled 01/08/13. Reviewed live. Expectations are above average; Green Flash has yet to really impress me and I've heard mixed reviews about this one. 1 pint 6 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a conical Samuel Smith's pint glass in me gaff in low altitude Los Feliz, Los Angeles, California. I've never had this before.

Served straight from the fridge but not quite as cold as the fridge usually renders beers. We'll call it sufficiently chilled. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

Not paired with food.

A: Pours a four finger beige colour head of nice cream and decent thickness, and great retention (~6 minutes) for the high ABV. Body colour is a clear translucent textbook copper. Vibrant. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show. Par for the style, but the head is impressive for the ABV. Other than that, there's nothing unique or special here. Indistinguishable from most other beers in the style.

Sm: Pale malts, floral hops, heavy hop oil, and light hop nectar. Shockingly light; not subtle, just light. Reading the label, I'm pleased to see they describe it as "complicated." Not complex - complicated. A touch of inadvertent honesty, perhaps? It's not fresh (in spite of being a mere 3 weeks old), but it does come off as pleasant.

T: Okay...unnecessarily heavy hop bitterness is overwhelmingly dominant. A hint of buried hop nectar, a hint of very buried citrus. Corrupted oily hops really attack the palate in a most unpleasant manner. Even the pale malt body is drowned out by the assault. Sweet jesus, that is really really imbalanced. I'm forced to appreciate it; it's sort of a master class on how not to brew an IPA. Grapefruit. No yeast character - and surprisingly no alcohol - comes through. Lacks complexity. There's no subtlety here at all.

Mf: Scratchy, oily, and coarse. It's as pleasant as it sounds. Overcarbonated. Too thick for the lack of flavour. Not at all refreshing. Horrible palate presence.

Dr: This is exactly how you shouldn't go about approaching the style. It lacks the key element: balance. This represents precisely what is wrong with IPAs - especially when executed by American breweries: it's not a dicksizing competition with hop content or IBUs. A good IPA has masterful balance and is refreshing. This is neither. Drinkable, if low quality. It's more difficult to drink than your typical DIPA. Though it does hide its ABV alright. A huge disappointment from Green Flash. Maybe the brewers could drive over to Alpine and learn a thing or two about balance. Is Silva Stout as highly hyped and yet as poorly brewed as this is?

Low C-

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Photo of brentk56
3.88/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a clear amber color with a modest head that leaves some splashy lace behind

Smell: Grapefruit pith and quite a bit of caramel

Taste: Caramel malt, for a brief second, and then the hops take over bringing citrus pith initially; after the swallow, I get some onions and a return of the sugars that makes for a sweet, though balanced, finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation

Overall: Was really hoping for more from this beer as I love almost everything that Green Flash produces; not bad, but the onions and sweetness on the finish reduce its appeal to me

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Photo of oline73
4.46/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a bottle into a standard pint glass.

Appearance: Pours a clear amber color with a finger and a half of fluffy off white head. The head hangs around very well and leaves nice lacing. This is a really good looking beer.

Smell: West coast IPA hop profile is the first thing I'm picking up. Citrus peel and pine notes from the hop bitterness. Just a touch of malt sweetness, but it's almost lost in the hops.

Taste: There is a nice malt sweetness in the background, but the hops are the reason we're all here. Bitter citrus peel hops, just a mild note of pine as well. The finish is crushingly bitter, but very good.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with fluffy carbonation and a slick finish.

Overall: This is a fantastic DIPA. It was much better than I expected. Huge fan and I would definitely have another.

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Photo of emerge077
3.98/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2nd or 3rd time drinking this, poured the 16 oz. bottle in a small 10 oz. stemmed tulip glass.

Glistening deep saturated orange, creamy dense foam, long lasting and glass-coating. Webs of intricate lacing form inside the glass.

Toasted caramel, citrus peel, pungent hop resins.

Flavors are similar, big caramel and toasty malts, smooth and buttery. Moderate hop bitterness, slick and resiny. Buttery diacetyl is present but not overly distracting. Full bodied with lower carbonation and some sticky caramel sweetness. It has an English feel, much like Schells Burton Ale. Dry bitterness lingers, reminding that it's in fact a double IPA...

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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.95/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a bright orangey color ale with a solid large foamy head with good retention and some lacing. Aroma is dominated by citrus and pine noted originating from the C-hops. Taste is also dominated loads of citrus and pine notes with a bitter finish. Malt is present though hard to decipher through al the hops with some light residual sugar. Body is quite full with great carbonation and no apparent alcohol. There is no denying that this a hop bomb though I prefer when they veered toward floral then bitterness.

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Photo of largadeer
4.18/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours a golden peach skin hue. Clarity and head retention are excellent.

Very dank, resinous marijuana-like aroma. Lighter notes of tropical fruit, and a trace of bubblegum (not sure where that's coming from). A bit of malt, but that's not unexpected for a DIPA approaching 10%. Smells excellent.

This lives up to its name. Sticky, coating, attacking bitterness hits the palate almost immediately, but it (narrowly) avoids astringency. Resinous, herbal, oniony hop flavors are dominant, but there's just enough fruitiness to keep things interesting. There's a trace of malt up front, but the obliterating bitterness soon destroys any trace of sweetness.

Overall, another great hoppy beer from Green Flash; go figure.

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Photo of zeff80
4.42/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - Poured out a clear, copper color with a two-finger, tan head of bubbly foam. It left thin rings of sticky lace on the glass.

S - It smelled of citrus, grapefruit, mango and bubblegum. Some caramel aromas.

T - It tasted of sweet caramel, citrus, grapefruit and bread crust. Spicy bitterness adds balance.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A medium bodied ale with a strong alcohol warmth and a dry finish.

O - This is a really tasty DIPA. Another great brew from Green Flash.

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Photo of zestar
4/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of WillieThreebiers
4/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of LXIXME
4.25/5  rDev +2.7%

Photo of dmorgan310
4/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of olradetbalder
4.25/5  rDev +2.7%

Photo of DrBier
4/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of superspak
4.23/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle into tulip glass, best before 8/1/2017. Pours fairly crystal clear medium orange/amber color with a 1-2 finger dense and rocky off white head with good retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lasts. Dense soapy lacing clings around the glass. Fantastic appearance. Aromas of big grapefruit, tangerine, pineapple, peach, apricot, mango, lemon zest, orange peel, citrus rind, pine, honey, light caramel, toasted bread, herbal, and floral/grassy earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity of citrus/tropical/pine hops and moderate bready malt notes; with great strength. Taste of big grapefruit, tangerine, pineapple, peach, apricot, mango, lemon zest, orange peel, citrus rind, light pepper, pine, honey, light caramel, toasted bread, herbal, and floral/grassy earthiness. Moderate pine/citrus rind/spicy bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of grapefruit, tangerine, pineapple, peach, apricot, mango, lemon/orange peel, citrus rind, pepper, pine, honey, toasted bread, and herbal/floral/grassy earthiness on the finish for a while. Fantastic complexity, robustness, and balance of citrus/tropical/pine hops and moderate bready malt flavors; with a great malt/bitterness balance, and no lingering hop astringency after the finish. Light-moderate dryness from lingering bitterness, increasing through the glass. Medium carbonation and medium-full body; with a very smooth, moderately creamy/sticky/resinous, and slightly slick balanced mouthfeel that is great. Minimal warming alcohol for 9.5%. Overall this is an outstanding DIPA! All around awesome complexity, robustness, and balance of citrus/tropical/pine hops and moderate bready malt flavors; very smooth and easy to drink for the ABV, and despite the drying bitter/resinous finish. Very dank and juicy on hops; nice malt backbone, but never too sweet or heavy. A highly enjoyable offering.

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Photo of Thorpe429
2.89/5  rDev -30.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle from Rick's in Alexandria. Served in a Green Flash pint glass.

Pours a clear light copper color with a very nice off-white head. Tons of ringy lacing on the way down.

The nose carried a bit of light bready malt and some resinous hops. Very light citrus peel in the background. This is surprisingly malty. Not in the sense thy there is a strong malt presence, but just in the overall balance as there really isn't that much hop aroma there.

The flavor continues down this path. Some amber and bready malt with a heavy bitterness though not much hop flavor at all. Very unfortunate. A bit of alcohol there as well. Body is light-medium with good carbonation and pretty heavy bitterness.

I really just couldn't get into this one.

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Photo of mothman
3.73/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of nickfl
4.41/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A - Pours with two fingers of white foam on top of a perfectly clear, amber colored body. The head settles at a moderate pace and leaves nice, thick lace on the glass.

S - A pungent, sweaty pine hop aroma with some thick caramel malt in the background.

T - Pine hops and thick, bready malt up front. Some more pine and sweaty hop character in the middle with a touch of darker sugar. Finishes with pine, grapefruit, and strong bitterness that just manages to balance out the rich malt.

M - A fairly thick body, moderate carbonation, and a balanced finish.

D - This is a really well made, slightly dark and straight forward DIPA. The hops are pungently aromatic, but also strongly bitter which is good, since anything less would leave the thick malt cloyingly unbalanced. Nicely done, and quite drinkable for such a big beer.

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Photo of oberon
4.65/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Good to see a new Green Flash offering here in the Triad.Poured into a tulip glass nice deep burnt orange with a well defined sticky one finger white head that left multiple globs of lace as it settled slowly into a frothy mass.Sharp grapefruit hops at the onset as soon as I opened the bottle along with some booze but it's not overly sweet,just smells sticky and good.Raw hop goodness on the palate with sharp grapefruit rind and herbal notes,mild caramel sweetness underneath cant hold up to the sharp bitter hop onslaught,and amazingly the sweetness is held in check well.This is what a DIPA should be a hop explosian not a sugary sweet malt bomb,I loved it hence the perfect taste score.Best beer I have had in 2012.

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4.25/5  rDev +2.7%

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3.75/5  rDev -9.4%

Photo of NeroFiddled
3.95/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Green Flash Palate Wrecker
12 oz. bottle, freshness dated "03/29/13"
$5.50 @ The Beer Shoppe, Ardmore, PA

"Palate Wrecker" pours a mostly clear orange-amber body beneath a creamy head of off-white/light-khaki foam. The head retention is fair, and it leaves some nice spots and splashes of lacing about the glass.

The aroma is bold, delivering copious notes of citrus, tropical fruit, sap/resin, and soft pine/spruce that's not unlike a damp forest floor beneath tall evergreens. There's a hint of light floral-alcohol, and a delicate drip of sharp mint as well. Whatever malt that's there, it doesn't quite come through clearly, but rather acts as support for the hops.

Not surprisingly, the malt acts as support for the hops in the flavor as well. This beer is all about hops. Pacific northwest hops to be specific, and probably some high-alpha varieties as well. It's initially citrusy and pineapple-like. The citrus is like rind-like (chalky and raspy), although there are elements of grapefruit juice, and some citron and limon to it as well. I'm not sure what other fruits I might be getting, but I'm thinking tangerine, apple, and papaya. Following that you'll find the evergreens that could be pine, spruce or poplar - or even a blend - depending on where you're at in the glass. Each subsequent sip brings out more pine and sap as it builds on your palate. So note - this is not a beer to drink quickly if you want to find its complexity as it will indeed ruin your palate within the first twelve sips. The first sips will be fruity and citrusy. The next will be piney, and increasingly resinous and bitter. Following that you'll find a bit of malt, and some grass. Throughout all of that the bitterness builds to the point that you reach a threshold, and apart from the bitterness sticking at the back of your throat it hardly seems as bitter as it was on your second or third sip. By mid-glass the 9.5% alcohol by volume will have taken effect, and that throws you a bit as well. Thankfully, even though it's present throughout, it doesn't throw any harshness other than what's expected. And in all honesty, answer me this: if a beer as aggressively hopped and bitter as this was just 5% would you really want to drink it? No, I didn't think so (nor am I even sure that that's a possibility as you really need the malt and alcohol to hold the hop bitterness and flavor).

This is pretty much a special occasion beer because once you drink it you're done. Every beer you have afterward will taste different than you remember. Even food that you have will be somewhat skewed. It's an exercise in going all out. And there's a certain joy in that, but at the same time it's definitely un-balanced. It has to be. It can't be anything else. It's completely balanced towards the hop resins, for both bitterness and flavor. So how to review it number-wise? I'm not sure. I'm just going to go hedonistically and see what happens. Cheers!

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Photo of chinchill
3.49/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz. bottle poured into a glass snifter.

A: Pours a dark copper color with a slight yeast haze; likewise, the bottom of the bottle remains coated with a thin layer of sediment. The brew is topped with a one finger off-white that has limited retention, but it leaves lots of sticky lacing on the glass.

S: Very hop-forward, with suggestions of grapefruit rind, orange juice, and grapefruit juice; rather earthy and floral too. The rich and complex aromas of multiple hop varieties largely mask even the alcohol esters.

T: Some sweetness is there but this is very much a bitter brew, and the bitterness seems to build with repeated tasting. There is less citrus here than in the nose.

M: Full body; Medium+ carbonation; a bit harsh and acidic, presumably from the high hop load and ABV.

O: As warned, this strongly flavored beer assaults the senses and leaves a long-lasting bitter aftertaste with hints of grapefruit and pine. Quite bitter even among DIPAs. A less balanced alternative to brews like Hopslam, Stone Ruination or Hop Stoopid, all of which I definitely prefer to this strong and challenging beverage.

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Photo of TheManiacalOne
4.15/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap 3/31/2012 at Track 84, in Warwick, RI served in a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a deep golden brown color, with a short dense off-white head that fades slowly and leaves a thick on the glass.

S: The aroma contains fruity citrus, floral hops and caramelized malts.

T: The taste starts out with a piney bite of hops bitterness followed by sweet flavors of citrus and caramel. The malt character is hearty but not too heavy and provides a decent balance. The after-taste is slightly hoppy and slightly sweet.

M: Crisp and smooth, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

O: Tasty, goes down easily, not too filling, strong kick, good representation of style, although there are better 2IPA’s out there, this is still a solid beer to drink for a long time.

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4.25/5  rDev +2.7%

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4.15/5  rDev +0.2%

Palate Wrecker from Green Flash Brewing Co.
4.14 out of 5 based on 4,121 ratings.
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