Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin | Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.

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Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / BruinBourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.
Belgium
brtimmermans.be

Style: Flanders Oud Bruin

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by JoeyBeerBelly on 10-14-2010

BEER STATS
Ratings:
103
Reviews:
53
Avg:
3.25
pDev:
16.92%
 
 
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2
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Photo of sammo
3.25/5  rDev 0%

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3.25/5  rDev 0%

Photo of SHODriver
3.11/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

cork says 2010

A: pours a deep brown with a slight reddish tinge with a huge light tan head and decent retention
S: smells kinda musty and dusty, a bit of funk, slight sour cherry and a bit of oak
T: kinda oaky up front before the sour cherry hits, a little bit cloyingly sweet. aftertaste is a hard candy like sweetness.
M: slightly prickly carbonation and a bit on the thin side but not quite watery.
O: not bad but there's better out there, pretty low on the sourness but not bad for somebody that doesn't want to jump in all the way quite yet.

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Photo of benfons
2.23/5  rDev -31.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

According to the website this is a mix of lambic and a brown ale aged in oak barrels

A: dark cola colour, nice dense beige head

S: loads of sugar, some cherry, some malts, nothing more

T: Taste like a cocktail of cola and sweet cherry beer. There is a moment you think you'll have some acidity but the sugars rush immediately. At the end there is a hint of some thing burnt and some oak, that's it.

M: medium creamy, not a lot of carbonation, a bit sticky

O: too sweet, no subtlety

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Photo of StonedTrippin
3.7/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

pours clear mahogany to transparent brown, fizzling white head, soda-like bubbles. smells like grainy belgian malt, medium roast, with dried cherries, raisins, and toffee. flavor is less fruity than the nose, more malty than anything, with a definite alcohol flavor, which is odd in a beer with such a low abv. its earthy and a little sweet. muthfeel has a sort of winey vibe to it, not acidic at all, but the same sort of groove and texture, add carbonation. overall not my favorite beer, certainly not my favorite belgian, but a servicable belgian brown. was expecting a bit more sour to it, but really there is very little of that happening here.

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Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.42/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a deep brown hue, slightly hazed and relatively opaque, with flashed of ruby at the deep parts when held to the light. Head is fine but insubstantial, forming a slick film across the top of the glass, and leaving some patchy, slightly scummy lacing. Body is fine but slick, and the carbonation is tiny and intricate. Looks good.

Nose is slightly tart and dark, with some pleasantly sweet roasted characters bouncing of the acidity—it gives it the sumptuous feel of chocolate dipped cherries. Hints of oak come through as well, although these are veiled by the light tartness. Slight peppery characters come through as well. Overall, it's a really nice and clear Oud Bruin.

Taste is certainly flatter, and to be honest, a little disappointing after the tantalising hints on the nose. Acidity is really pared back, leaving just a twinkle of funk through the centre of the palate, and a subtle twist to the sweeter, fruitier notes. Feel is very light, and there's almost no residual on the back, meaning that the sweetness tends to be the last thing you remember. It's not a great finish.

Feel is quite thin—it would really be aided by a touch of acidity on the finish to crispen and revitalise the palate.

Overall, I'm a little disappointed. I was ready for a really good Oud Bruin after the nose, and it pretty much fell flat on its face.

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3.25/5  rDev 0%

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4.25/5  rDev +30.8%

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3.25/5  rDev 0%

Photo of DeerNick
4/5  rDev +23.1%

Photo of WastingFreetime
2.27/5  rDev -30.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 1 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Reviewed from session notes.

A. Very dark brown and opaque in color with a fizzy two finger tan head that lasts for about two minutes with minimal lacing left behind.

S. Most of the nose is composed of a dark fruit base, but in the initial pour, there exists a brief and faint burst of mildly lactic-esque (yogurt) soured brown sugar and donut/morning bun dough. This is a proper nose for the style, but unfortunately far too faint in strength for my tastes.

T. The weak point of this beer. Strangely soapy and heavily metallic sweet malt with the muddled dark fruits getting buried and lost within all the metallic off-flavor. Acidity and tartness levels are far too low. Sourness is nowhere to be found. Just a mouth full of sweetness and tinny metal with a soap film on it.

M. Thin watery body, medium carbonation, at least the carbonation isn't super-charged and distracting like the other Timmermans in this session.

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Photo of CrazyDavros
3.63/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours brown with ruby tints and a small, quickly fading head.
Nose shows sweet forest fruits, faint funk and a soft, acidic character.
Some of the fruit transfers through as a flavour, hinting at blackberries. Also some sweet malt and a faintly spicy finish.
Body seems a bit watery.

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Photo of StJamesGate
3.53/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark oxblood with a creamy tan head that rims and sheets. Winey nose with wood chips and cocoa nibs.
Dark malt loaf, light vinegary notes, some red berry and a light apple end.
Light, fizzy, crisp, slight cling.

OK, I get where this is pretty insubstantial: no oak, little sour, not much depth. At the same time, it is pleasant with a light tang and some warm malts. At 5%, it's never going to be Goudenband.

A session brune, if that's what you're after.

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Photo of rekel
4/5  rDev +23.1%

Photo of Sinewave
3/5  rDev -7.7%

Photo of claytong
3.35/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

appearance - beautiful. looks almost black without light. put up to the sun you can see the darkest of ruby reds. one inch head with solid lacing that looks like spain right now.

smell - metal, musty malts, cherry coke

taste - cherry coke (enjoyable since i dont have soft drinks ever), sugar, slight malt and slight metal to finish it off

mouthfeel - crisp, carbonated well, good body for style and abv

overall - is this the bmc of flanders oud bruin? not sure, but enjoying the cherry coke. would pick this up again if it was a buck a piece. great intro for people not into beers, especially if they like sodas.

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Photo of RuudJH
3.62/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Tasting some brews from this brewery, this is a far better beer than their blonde, as a beer in general. It's got more taste and the mouthfeel is pretty ok.
Dark brown colour, decent head, good lacing.
Smells of dark fruits, roasted seeds. Actually very pleasant.
Taste similar. Some tartness from berries and cherries, and roasted malts sweetness.

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Photo of Stinkypuss
3.85/5  rDev +18.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bourgogne Des Flandres

Pours a rich brown color, nice sized head and some lace sticking. Aroma of sour cherries and vinegar. In the taste, malty, slightly sweet, with a veritable underground of sourness. Brown sugar like sweetness, mildly tart, and somewhat malty. Mouthfeel is smooth and velvety. Overall, a nice flanders brown ale and a solid session change of pace brew.

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Photo of meatyard
3.53/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear, deep ruby with a frothy, 2-finger, light tan head that falls quickly to a cover.

The smell is mild vinegar, musty and very light cherry aromas.

The taste is a mild tartness, cherry and more of the mustiness. The vinegar is gone but it is still a bit bland.

Mouthfeel is medium to light with moderate to low carbonation.

Overall: This is not a bad beer but not what I would hope for in this style. There are enough other, better and available beers in this style that are more satisfying. I wouldn't buy it again.

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Photo of janubio
3.78/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle, no cork, just an usual cap. Dark brwon colour, with beatiful reddish hints to the light. Good beige creamy head with lace. Aroma is very acidic, with fruits (cherry specially), wood, caramel and brettanomyces. It feels good on the tongue, although a bit light. Taste is acidic, fruity, sherry wine and brattanomyces are there.

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Photo of PorterLambic
2.88/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a beautiful garnet red color with a light-medium tan head. Big to start the head drops to a creamy 1/3" and just stays forever. Great lace left behind.
Smell is malty with that wonderful, musty sourness, cherry and a hint of cardboard.
Taste is malty, cherry sweetness almost syrupy, some very slight sourness but not nearly enough, a light spice note appears just at the end of the swallow.
Rich, full-bodied, light effervescence, Smooth with a pretty decent coating of the palate and tongue though not enough to be a detraction. Flavor fades evenly.
If this beer had more of the expected sourness I would have given much higher marks on taste and overall. I really like the style, this one just falls short.

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Photo of KickInTheChalice
2.88/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 750 mL caged and cork bottle into a snifter.

Appearance: This pours a murky cherry brown color with a white head. Eventually fading to a ring, the cap leaves a bit of lace.

Smell: This actually smells like pizza, which is odd. Behind that, there is brown malt sweetness and some tart cherries.

Taste: The flavor is sweet. Brown malt with some brown sugar starts the flavor. Some tart cherries next. Vaguely woody, and it almost turns into cherry coke by the end. Fairly weak, strangely sweet, and not very sour or good.

Mouthfeel: This is light and a little bit tart with soft carbonation and a light to medium body.

Overall: This is kind of a weird beer.

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Photo of Squelch
3.1/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance: Dark brown colored. Moderate lacing.

Smell: smells of a lambic. Funk with some malty sweetness

Taste: My wife described this as a cross between a stout and a lambic. I wouldn't go so far. It's definitely a flanders, but lacks the uumph of other's Ive recently tried. It tastes watered down.

Mouthfeel: Watered down. Slight sourness

Overall: Not really one I'd seek out again.

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Photo of musicforairports
2.91/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Ruby-brown, head sticks around a bit and leaves lacing, especially for the style.

Light aroma, some cherries, and some brown-ale-type malt.

Taste is pretty much cherry cola. Finishes with a hint of tartness, but I don't pick up any buggy, wild qualities here besides a faint, off band-aid quality I kind of caught in the nose. Pretty sweet. The flavor is refreshing and fine on its own, but for the style it's probably the worst I've had.

Light mouthfeel, not as carbonated as some.

A poor example of a Flanders, but if you're looking for a good cherry beer, this is fine. Not a problem to drink, but I'd like some complexity and at least some sort of tart/sour bite.

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Photo of JMad
3.58/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I drank this from a tulip...

The beer was cola colored with a bubbly tan head. It smells like sour cherry cola with just a hint of sweet malt and oak. The taste is a little more complex with sweet cola, black cherry, molasses and a tart finish. The beer is lighter than it looks with lots of carbonation and a dry finish. I thought this was a good and interesting beer, proof that you can't trust all overall ratings on here.

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Bourgogne Des Flandres Brune / Bruin from Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.
3.25 out of 5 based on 103 ratings.
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