Bourgogne Des Flandres | Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.

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Bourgogne Des FlandresBourgogne Des Flandres

Brewed by:
Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.
Belgium | website

Style: Flanders Red Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.00%

Availability: Year-round

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Photo of vancurly
4.59/5  rDev +32.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This is the best beer I've had all year.
a) Pours a deep red/brown, with garnet highlights. Fluffy tan head, dropping to a thin raft.
s) Big spice, fruit cake, brandy, ginger powder, oak. Smells like a perfect winter warmer. Raisins & dates, as it warms. Lovely.
t) Spice & dried fruits again. But the barrel conditioning brings in some slight tartness, citrus. Dried plums spring to mind. Similar in flavour profile to Rodenbach & Goudenband, but with less acid. A bitterness kicks in late. Magnificent
m) Well balanced. A light creaminess that counters the light tartness. Slight oily slickness.
d) Outstanding. A dark Belgian you can drink all night, and with bits of everything.

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Photo of schoolboy
4.12/5  rDev +18.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Let me find my passport. This beer transports to somewhere in Belgium where ber is bier. It reminds me of the flemish sour I sometimes drink, but a little easier to drink (but only a bit).

It is dark and clear in the glass, with no head. This particular bottle apparently was bottled in October 26, 2010. That should make it (barely) ready to drink. It isn't mellow tasting - the sour taste is in your face. It overpowers everything else, but you can tell there are other tastes underneath there somewhere.

This was a nice, unique taste treat, but I don't need to drink this again.

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Photo of pat61
4.1/5  rDev +18.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Nose sour tart dark malt, fruit with a hint of chocolate. The lemony tartness grows as it ages. Brilliant brown with very light red tint under a 2” finely bubbled bone white foam cap with a very light tan tint. Attacks the palate with a mouthful of fruit and some dark malt sugars with traces of chocolate balanced by a pleasant tartness with lemon notes. The tartness grows and the sweetness decreases as it ages. Medium body and medium high carbonation. A little tame.

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Photo of jmdrpi
4.1/5  rDev +18.2%

served in a goblet from the tap

medium brown in color, not really any head. mild sour aroma, a bit earthy and dark fruits. taste is fairly malty, with just a slightly sour vinegary finish. Not very sour, drinks easy and refreshing. Thin bodied.

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Photo of deebo
4.03/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Monk-Brussels

A-Pours a creamy tan that sticks to the traditional Bourgongne Des Flanders wine glass. Brownish red and clear.

S-Funky sour and yeasty with a little oak smell.

T-Fruity, yeasty and sweet. Just a hint of a bitter finish.

M-Any alcohol is hidden, crisp but not overly carbonated.

D-Easy to drink and tasty.

O-A nice flavorful easy to drink beer, not overly anything.

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Photo of Gusler
4.02/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

The beer after its emancipation from the 330ml brown bottle sets in the glass a deep incarnadine color with the head pythonic in size and the texture spumous, the color a beauteous light tan as it dwindles to nothingness the lace forms a tight skirt upon the glass. Nose is tart, almost astringent with a backing of malt sweetness, hints of black cherries or blackberries, complex maybe it’s just this old worn out schnozzle of mine. Start is quite sweet and light in malt; the top is light with the acidity mild and the hops benign in their spiciness. Aftertaste is dry and sweet, a different beer I must say, drinkable nonetheless.

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Photo of aerozeppl
4.01/5  rDev +15.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This was a 1998 bottle we drank at a thing.

A: Nice golden brown color with a half finger of white head.

S: Little bit of burnt sugar and a touch of molasses. Dark fruit as well. Time does wonders.

T: nice sweetness with some faded malt notes thrown in. Brown sugar and molasses again. This beer was a touch oxidized.

M: A little thick with little carbonation. It has that this has been aged for quite a while mouthfeel.

D: Not bad for a 14 year old beer.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
4/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(Served in a tulip glass)

A- This beer pours a dense walnut brown body with a little light glowing at the base of the glass. There is a sticky beige head that sticks to the glass in sheets but doesn't last.

S- The soft bright almost citrus orange tartness has some wet raw oak and rhubarb notes that grow as the beer opens.

T- The blend of cola and wet wood led to a mellow tartness and some brown sugar sweetness that starts to develop as it opens. There is a touch of cherries and citrus hints to a bright tartness in the finish. A well blended brown malt and dry toffee note has some paper oxidation notes and a faint aspirin quality to follow. There is a bitterness of grapefruit pith in the finish aswell.

M- The medium mouthfeel has a touch of fizz in the finish but it is gentle.

O- This beer is bright with some nice fruity depth to it and a soft tartness but it becomes a bit too sweet as it warms and the tartness is a bit too mellow to combat that.

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Photo of Andreji
4/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bourgogne des flandres was an accidental purchase since i managed to confuse this with the corsendonk i was actually buying (on the lable-less bottles they do look similar).

tried it in Brussels.

But a decent surprise nonetheless. nice soft brew, dark amber pour and nice smokey fruity smell, albeit very soft. tastewise, a bit colaish at times with a medium body and scarce carbonation.

it's a nice beer.

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Photo of elNopalero
4/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Cork date 2.2010.

This pours a ruddy brown with tremendous foam sitting atop it. Looks good.

The aroma is reminiscent of sour cherries, or gourmet/fancy maraschino cherries, with a flavor to match. I think of sweet vermouth and black cherries, like 2/3rds of an expertly made Manhattan, with a sweetness matched by a mild tartness. I get some of that vermouth/bitters aroma, a layered, aged sense of different herbs and spices coming together and mellowing out, and the taste of cherries running throughout. Terribly enjoyable and readily accessible.

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Photo of PorterLambic
4/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Arrives amazingly dark, Ruby would be paler in comparison. Nice 1" head sits atop it though it is gone in a couple of minutes. Good lacing.
Smell is very tart and sour with cherry dominant and lesser notes of cardboard and vanilla.
Taste is cherry and malt, sour and tart. Delicious.
Medium bodied and medium effervescence. ABV is not at all noticeable. Aftertaste is less tart, more malt. Not as good, to me at least, as Duchess du Borgogne, but in the neighborhood.

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Photo of BeerForMuscle
3.97/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Crystal clear burgundy body with a thin head and many arising carbonation strands.

S - Sweet rubbing alcohol and ammonia. Plenty of sweet fruity notes and syruppy sugar and malt.

T - Flavors of sweet honey and delicious ripe fruit salad. Faint warm and sweet alcohol. Tangy fruit skin and dried fruit sugars. A bit of malt sweetness with a mild acidity and oaky dryness in the back end.

M - Fizzy and tingly on the tongue. So clean and crisply refreshing. A slightly dry finish.

O - A great flanders ale, on the sweet side but thirst quenching and highly drinkable.

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Photo of Toddv29424
3.96/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A surprisingly crisp beer. Pours a deep red color with absolutely no head. Smell is very hard to pick out, but smells of faint plums and raisins. Smell is surprisingly crisp and light for a beer this dark. The main taste is apricots and other fruits, but water is quick to take away any lingering taste on the tongue. The effervescing also prohibits anything form staying around your mouth, but overall it is a solid beer.

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Photo of SLeffler27
3.96/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

This is a very dark brown beer with red highlights. A khaki froth reached one inch before quickly settling to a thin blanket, leaving patches of lace on the St. Hermes tulip while the almost clear beer resides below.

Sweet fruit is led with cherry, followed by currents and vanilla and light spices. The light tartness is much more restrained than others of this style.

Sweet and lightly acidic with very low tartness. As anticipated, cherry is prominent, resembling Smith Bros. Cough Drops. Like the aroma, these flavors are less complex than other versions of the style.

A slick texture with light body and soft carbonation and unnoticed alcohol.

This one is refreshing and similar to fruit juice. I enjoyed it late on a warm, sunny day and could see this easily being a digestive. It is off style, but certainly would make a fine introduction for those uninitiated to sour beers.

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Photo of OneDropSoup
3.95/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a stemmed tulip: Deep plum-brown body with faint crimson highlights under a finger of khaki head.

Smells of Concord jelly, tart cherries, slight balsamic vinegar. A little on the sweet side for my liking but not bad. Some cocoa shows up, & a toasted, sweet breadiness, like pie crust.

Tart cherry skins at first in the taste, some green apple, mild cocoa, a little caramel, with that vinegar twist kicking in again. Again, on the sweet side, but some pretty good flavors going on here.

Medium-bodied, but somehow turns a little thin & (I'm not sure how else to put this) artificial, like the sweetness from a lollipop. Lightly chalky, in a good way.

As mentioned several times, this was a little too sweet for me to be loving it, but I'd have another one any day.

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Photo of texashammer
3.92/5  rDev +13%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reddish orange in color with little head, but beautiful lacing. Smells of brown sugar, candy sugars, chocolate. Smells rich and delicious; can't wait to get it in my mouth, but the taste really takes a step backwards. It has very mellow and pleasant mouthfeel, but the taste is too understated after such a thrilling nose. Some butter to it. Very drinkable but I wish it were more flavorful.

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Photo of MaltyPythonsHopCircus
3.92/5  rDev +13%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a reddish brown with off tan head. Aroma has a slight vinegar over dark fruit. Taste is tart, with cherry, sour cherry notes reminiscent of Dr Pepper. Mouthfeel varies from tart to sweet to prickly

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Photo of chinchill
3.89/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at the Atlanta Yard House.

A: clear dark brown-amber with an excllent beige head. Very good lacing

Aroma: complex with tart, fruity and liquer elements.

Flavor: Sweet up front turning tart-sweet by the finish. Moderately malty, Complex, lingering aftertaste.

Feel: medium body; OK carbonation. Smooth

O: Interesting and worth trying

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Photo of Rassputtin
3.89/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle
28/06/10 09:43

Pours an amber red almost no head that is gone immediately.

Smells great. It is sweet but tart and sour. Smells a little bready and fruity.

It tastes much like it smells. Starts fruity and tart like a sour but ends up bready.

Mouthfeels is good a little carbonationy. Not heavy at all. Starts smooth and ends pretty smooth.

Overall a pretty good beer. Worth a try for sure and definitely A pick above many others.

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Photo of francisweizen
3.86/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Had twice at the Avec Les Bon Veoux in Brussels. This is a dark red brew with a small whispy head of off-white. Aromas are of cherries, oak, various spices, yeast, candy sugar, and more. The taste is sour, oaky, and very cherry-ish with some nice spicing as well. Mouthfeel is a bit thin, but the drinkability is nice.

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Photo of bluehende
3.83/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

As others have said not very sour. A nice drinking red with lots of cherry and some complexity. A fairly sweet taste with slightly sour finish. I liked it but did not love it.

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Photo of beveritt
3.82/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: Had at a recent spur of the moment trip to World of Beer. Poured into a logo glass.

Appearance: Pours with very little head, this disappears quickly, Beer itself is medium brown with a slight reddish tinge and perfeclty clear. No sediment in the bottle.

Smell: Sweet caramel malt with strong notes of cherries.

Taste: Slightly tart cherry upfront with a malty smoothness.

Mouthfeel: Lower than average carbonation. Good body.

Drinkability: Not as tart as some Red Ales I have had, but enjoyable. Not sure why this says retired, just had one last night.

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Photo of Mar02x
3.8/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - A nice red and clear beer with a whitish pink head.

S - Sour red fruit, mainly cherries.

T - Dry cherries, the body however isn't full, but nevertheless still tasteful and refreshing.

M - Medium carbonation that fits the taste. Somewhat sticky and light bitter.

O - A nice beer, something different, not to sweet, just try it once.

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Photo of gonzo000
3.78/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A nice fruity beer with a hint of sour, but not enough to call it a sour. Red fruits lead the taste profile. I got raspberry and strawberry with slightly sour cherry on the finish.

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Photo of MrHungryMonkey
3.78/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Nose is spicy and slightly herbal/floral/fruity. Smells like a fruity dessert. Smells very good.

Pours clear dark brown/red with moderate head. Looks good.

Vanilla notes, soft creamy sweet. Slight grape-like fruit, almost cocoanut. Soft herbalness. Lasting sourness. Tastes pretty good. Feels pretty good. Good drinkability.

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Bourgogne Des Flandres from Brouwerij Timmermans-John Martin N.V.
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