Walter Payton Pilsener | America's Brewpub

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Walter Payton PilsenerWalter Payton Pilsener

Brewed by:
America's Brewpub
Illinois, United States

Style: Czech Pilsener

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 3.90%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by Jason on 03-01-2005

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 18 |  Reviews: 14
Reviews by granger10:
Photo of granger10
2.73/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

A very pale color with a larger head and bubbly texture. Not much lacing. Smell is of wet grains, maybe a touch of cardboard, along with some honeyish flavors. Taste is really strong on the diacetyl. Lots of bready, thicker than almost any pils I've had. Not the smoothest. A touch of grassy earthiness in the back but the diacetyl stays prevalent. Fairly crisp finish. This isn't lacking some good components but it also has numerous faults which can't be ignored.

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Photo of orbitalr0x
4.07/5  rDev +28.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The Walter Payton Pilsner pours from the bottle a deep orange/yellow hue with a bubbly white head that quickly falls to a ring around the glass. Aromas of crisp, creamy pale maltiness with a nice spicy, herbal noble hop background. A bit grassy and spicy with a touch of yeast...smells nice and fresh!

First sip brings a crisp, creamy slight bready maltiness that has an underlying light fruitiness. Semi-sweet throught with a nice herbal, spicy hop that shows up on the way down. A tasty and refreshing pilsner that I really quite enjoy. I'm glad I ran across one of their few bottled offerings.

Mouthfeel is rather light but has a really nice creaminess that expands across the palate with mellow carbonation. An easy drinking, refreshing brew. There's no doubt this is a good session beer and an ever better intro for the macro lovers out there. A tasty, nicely put together brew.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
2.76/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

(Served in an American pint glass)

A- This beer has a pale straw yellow body with a white thin head that is very creamy but fades after a bit. I only see about 2-3 bubbles rise to the surface.

S- This beer smells very clean with a faint raw grain note and no nose of hops or any malts.

T- This beer has a pale dry malt note with a slight sour almost lemon hop finish but without any lemon zest notes only the sourness. As it warms there is a grapefruit sour note but again it has no grapefruit flavor.

M- This beer has a light mouthfeel with a fizzy finish that is pretty clean.

D- This beer has mostly dry sour hop notes with very little other flavors or any depth of flavor.

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Photo of zjungleist
3.7/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Slighly dark yellow in color with a pretty nice white head. Smell was fairly malty with a little bit of hop presence. Taste had a pretty decent malt/grain profile, which was also sweet, and a bit of a balanced hop bite. Mouthfeel was a little chewy for a pilsner, and also slightly slick and sticky. It was certianly satisfying. No apparent flaws, but perhaps came on a little robust for a pilsner.

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Photo of bluejacket74
2.59/5  rDev -18%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Served in a pilsner glass, the beer pours a cloudy yellow/orange color with about an inch white head. Nice lacing as well. The smell was malty and bready with a bit of hoppiness and skunkiness. It tasted mainly a bready/doughy taste with some malt sweetness and a hop bite, as well as a weird bitter and sour finish. The mouthfeel is on the medium side, it was a little thicker than it looks. The drinkability is OK, but it's not too smooth at all. I'm glad I just got one bottle of this, I don't know if I could finish off a 6-pack of this or not.

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Photo of hopdog
2.82/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

12oz bottle.

Opened to a loud pssst and poured virtually all head. Thankfully this did not gush. ttled into a medium and cloudy golden color. Aromas of grass and earthy. Tastes of lighter grass, grains, and lighter earthiness. Thin body.

Notes from 7/20/08

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Photo of karst
3.95/5  rDev +25%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Sharing a table with Mark and Dan from St. Louis Brews. Mark conducts beer tours to Europe and grew up in Finland. Spot on apearance and smell for this style. Saaz hops meet the nose and add floral spice with a background of sweet pilsner malts. No off flavors just a quality pilsner crispness that is very drinkable. I have been tasting beer for two days and the German pils with a little more body that you usually find on the Continent. Although others may have found this beer was flawed, on this Mid March day it shined and showed why it has won national acclaim.

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Photo of brandoman63
3/5  rDev -5.1%

Photo of Redrover
3.5/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served in a tall pilsner glass, the beer is a dull gold with some chill haze. The head is bone white and the beer has nice lacing.

The nose is of malts, some perfume like almost lemony hops. Not bad, but not overly assertive.

The taste is slightly sweet with some bready taste that is balanced by some subtle spicing from the hops. A little bit of citrus and grains late.

The mouth is workman like and the drinkability is slightly above average. This is a safe crossover beer that I find kind of satisfying. Easy to pair with a burger or the fish tacos.

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Photo of tgbljb
3.8/5  rDev +20.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Enjoyed on-tap at the brewpub.

Served as a pale golden colored beer with moderate white puffy head.

Smell has a distinct malt presence, with a light hoppiness in the background.

Taste is very crisp amd malty. There is enough hop to balance the malt and provide a nice refreshing tasty beer.

The hops begin to take over at the ending, and becomne a bit too strong.

Nice and drinkable. Good job.

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Photo of RedBaron
3.73/5  rDev +18%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Just finished mowing the lawn...what could be better than a locally-brewed, craft pilsner?

Appearance: Straw yellow body, nice white head.
Smell: Aromatic tones of toasted bread, hints of floral hops
Taste: Nice mix of malty sweetness up front, clean and dry finish. Probably a nice use of a bittering hop here (but not too powerful).
Mouthfeel: The overall mouthfeel was a bit light (for my taste), perhaps a tad watery in the finish, but basically a pretty decent blending of malts and hops.
Drinkability: Hey, there ain't a whole lot of craft pilsners out there (at least in this area) that can hold there heads proud like Payton Pilsner. It didn't blow my flip-flops off, but I definitely made a solid choice for an after-mowing brew!

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Photo of nynick
3.25/5  rDev +2.8%

Photo of scruffwhor
3.8/5  rDev +20.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sparse, slow bubbles mingled in with a slighlty hazey sunshine yellow. The beer column ends with a little frothy head and a thick ring o' foam. The aroma is a is very light, fruity malt wth a little gypsum minerals mixed with grass. The first sip is a light, dry malt with a choppy blade of wet grass mixed with a little bitter orange rind. The finish is a very astringent hop bitteness for pilsner. The bitterness is a littleoff putting at the finish. But I like its unique slightly resiny texture on my tongue.

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Photo of kmpitz2
2.39/5  rDev -24.4%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

12 0z into a pilsner glass. Pours a fairly cloudy and dark straw color with a finger of frothy white head over top. A small cascade of bubbles are visable in the liquid, moving towards the top. I expected this one to be clear, not hazy. As the head recedes, there is a nice bit of lacing. Nose is almost a little doughy, with a modest spicey hallertau hop, and a lightly sweet pilsner malt quality. The doughyness isn't working for me. It gives it a sense of thickness to the aroma that I don't like. Flavor is sour, almost astringet upfront, moving to a moderate bitter on the finish, but with little there between the two extremes. The bitter lingers nicely into the finish. Mouthfeel is moderate, with little to no carbonation. The lack of carbonation is a surprise, as I expect an active carbonation for the style. As I drink this one, it actually is giving me a bit of a sour stomach. I don't think this one is good at all. There may be an infection going on, and will try this one again when I find it to give it a second chance, but this one is destined for the drain.

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Photo of kbnooshay
2.52/5  rDev -20.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Lots of deimentation at the bottom of the bottle. When I poured it I noticed loads of crazy dirt floating around in a pretty orange gold body. The head was white and quite foamy. The aroma was yeast abd bvreadlike with lots of floral hops. The taste on the other hand deserves a wtf. It tastes like metamuscil was poured in here. The aftertaste is kinda interesting but the swallow is full of grainey particles. Im not sure if somethign si wrong with it or if this was the way it was intended to taste beause i thought it smelled ncie. Funkiest pils ever. This is not drinkable. Either something got fucked up along the way or they are trying wayyy to hard to make something different.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.03/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

"Remember, tomorrow is promised to no one."

--Walter Payton

Lightly foggy marigold with a tincture of orange. The cap is somewhere between palest banana and palest ecru in color and is a full three fingers after a spirited pour. What lace makes its way to the glass, a fair amount actually, is as bubbly as the head that created it. This is a wonderful looking beer that resembles a more amber than usual hefe weizen.

The aroma is nice as well, even if it isn't as hoppy as I would have liked. My nose picks up more sweet pale malt than this style typically delivers. The hops, probably German nobles, are musky and spicy and very slightly lemony.

Where the hell did the sourness come from? Walter Payton was called Sweetness, not Tartness. It's a shame too, because this would have a chance to be a very nice domestic pilsener without the unripe fruit puckerfest. As the nose implied, there's more pale malt and fewer hops than is classic for the style.

If you like your German pilseners bright, crisp and hoppy, look elsewhere. I don't mind this variation on the theme... if I could just filter out the tangy, mouth-squinching sourness. Where does that come from anyway? It has be the yeast, or an infection, since malt and hops aren't capable of producing those flavors as far as I know.

How one feels about the mouthfeel depends on whether one prefers to assess it in the context of the style or not. I don't have a consistent method, but have chosen not to be a style hardliner in this case. If I was, the score would be at least one notch lower since it's probably too full and too slick for purists.

Walter Payton Pilsner (it's too bad that whoever entered it left off his first name and didn't spell 'Pilsner' as the brewery intended) can't be considered a success. I don't mind that it wasn't patterned after the world's best pilseners. If a beer is good, it's good. Unfortunately, this one fails to punch it in from the one yard line. Sweetness deserves better.

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Photo of barnzy78
2.5/5  rDev -20.9%

Photo of imperialking
2.5/5  rDev -20.9%

Walter Payton Pilsener from America's Brewpub
3.16 out of 5 based on 18 ratings.
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