Urbock 23°
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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Style:
German Doppelbock
Ranked #216
ABV:
9.6%
Score:
83
Ranked #39,460
Avg:
3.65 | pDev: 16.99%
Reviews:
306
Ratings:
456
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Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
 
Austria
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Year-round
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Reviews by CalgaryFMC:
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3.8/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A "pale doppelbock" described as the cognac of the beer world on the label. It is indeed pale, a bright sparkly lemon drop yellow with around three inches of white foam. Aroma is intensely sweet and bready, with ample lager yeast character and green grape must. Palate does indeed evoke cognac a little but is of course much sweeter. Tastes of golden cake with icing, apples, a poppy seed nuttiness, and dried plums, esters and phenols abound with a pervasive mustiness that recalls white wine. Hops provide some additional fruit notes like gooseberry and some bitterness to the finish, which is more crisp, dry, and spicy than the initial sweetness would suggest. Boozy like many Belgian tripels and some of the other flavors go down this path as well, although this lager beer is much sweeter than the more attenuated Belgian ale. I like darker flavors in this style but this is worth sampling.

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Photo of kkipple
3.26/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Urbock 23 is a very transparent light orange-gold, crowned with the faintest hint of white foam that hugs the rim and center of my goblet. Some bubbles cling to the side of the glass. Agitating it produces some short-lived foam, but it dissipates quickly.

I don’t get much in the nose, caramel, sweet malts, raisins, and some higher alcohols are present. Not very complex, at least, not yet...

A few sips and I’m thinking this is the baby brother to the massive Samichlaus, also made by Schloss Eggenberg. It’s got sufficient malt and alcohol, but lacks the syrupy sweetness and insane alcohol notes that Samichlaus is so well known for. Urbock is slightly watery, and has a pronounced medicinal alcohol finish. Some grain notes come through and the finish is dry and slightly metallic. Not a whole heck of a lot here, really…

Mouthfeel is finely carbonated and slightly slick. For some reason I get the impression that there is a lot of sugar still lurking in this beer, even though it’s not super-sweet like it’s older, badder brother Sami.

Finally, if this is a dopplebock, I don’t know what one is. The color is far too light, and the flavor lacks any hint of roasted grains… if I had to guess I’d say this was an eisbock or a weird alcoholic German lager… but not a dopplebock. I'm not sorry I tried it, but this isn't something I'm crazy for.

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Photo of Fettpopps
3.5/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of soulgrowl
2.01/5  rDev -44.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Appearance: Oktoberfest-lookin' bright sunflower golden yellow; puffy white head with fair retention despite big bubbles and audibly active carbonation.

Smell: The similarities to Oktoberfest aren't only skin-deep, apparently. Corny caramel malts with a hint of dry-roasted peanuts. Weak, grassy hops and a pinch of nondescript, spicy alcohol do little to counter the dead weight of the malts.

Taste: Brashly alcoholic with almost no body or character to counter it; less a Doppelbock than just a strong pale lager. Extremely vapid malts offer a slight corny/grainy flavor and a candy sweetness, but none of the depth or heft necessary in a beer of this strength. Hops are actually fairly strong, but their citric/leafy flavor is decimated by the alcohol and carbonation. What a mess.

Mouthfeel: Spritzy yet thick.

Drinkability: This is an exceptionally unpleasant Doppelbock. Avoid.

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Photo of Kmat10
3.25/5  rDev -11%

Photo of JohnGalt1
3.29/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

RB

Buckeyeboy brought this back from Austria... I am sure I have had it before, but am surprised to see no rating.... soooo, here it is.

Pours a clear orange... no real lacing... nose is fruity malt extract, not nearly as clean as most doppelbocks.. sweet and very boozy.

Flavor mirrors the aroma... sweet with something that reminds me of apricot.. cloying malt with no balance at all... one dimensional and not even remotely to my doppelbock liking anymore.

Body is surprisingly not that thick, but the carbonation is lighter than it should be leading to a sorta clinging mouthfeel.

Thanks Jeremy, but I remember this one being better.

3.5/3.25/3.25/3.5/3.25

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Photo of clarknova
3.27/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.25

Photo of spiveym
2.89/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

A very strong alcohol smell and taste. Overpowered the other flavors and made this rather un-enjoyable. The appearance was beautiful with a rich golden color and steady stream of carbonation. I am pleased about the “SchloEggenberg” lettering on the bottle. I will have to revisit this beer, but right now I just don’t appreciate it.

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Photo of utopiajane
3.79/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Pours a deep golden color with good clarity and fat creamy off white head that stays and stays. Nose is strong with malt richness and depth. Like ribbons of scent from malt but nothing burnt or roasted. Just sweet. No hops on the nose but a nice light fruitiness. Sheeting lace that slides back into the ring and alcohol legs. Some grape like sweetness. A bit of sweet chocolate comes forward shyly as it warms. The fruit on the nose is a mere grapey sweetness. Light and bright. Taste is heavenly delight. Rich sweet malt unfolds on the palate. Light chocolate, clean tastes and a grape like sweetness that includes a bit of sweet raisin type depth. Toasty but nothing burnt. No hop flavor until the very end where it finishes with a timid bitter and a little more of that chocolate to linger in the aftertaste. Medium full body, smooth and wonderful.

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Photo of ByTor2112
3.61/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

I work for an Austrian Company and got my Urbocks shipped direct from the mother country. Pours with a good golden color. Alcohol nose was strong. Very thin head that dissipated through the drinking of it. A few citrus notes with a very strong mouthfeel. I enjoy a good alcohol presence and this beer did not disappoint. A classic!

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Photo of ronin926
4/5  rDev +9.6%

Photo of albern
4.32/5  rDev +18.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I had this at Legends in New Suffolk. What an exceptional bock beer. It poured a clear, amber color with a smallish off white, foamy head, no lacing or much retention. The nose on the beer was good, complex, lots of caramelized malts, spices.

As is the case with most bocks, this was not very carbonated, had a syrupy consistency, was very sweet, had loads of caramelized malts, licorice flavors, some spiciness in the finish, and very nice, warming ABV that was not strong nor throaty. The beer was liqueur like in its character, with some anise and licorice flavors. This was an exceptional sipping beer, that although strong, was well masked in alcohol content. What a great find. L'Chaim.

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Photo of Vsarmatov
3.5/5  rDev -4.1%

Photo of biegaman
3.33/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A lustrous golden body with a very tight hugging crown. The beer looks classy and enticing: it is magnificently clear, outlined in bleach white and its complexion beams with light. An upright pour mustered a whirlwind of bubbles to rapidly spin up the beer like a vortex. These little prints of carbonation continue to drift skyward but now at a much more casual pace. This looks marvelous albeit nothing like it should according to style guideline.

For such a light coloured beer it has a surprisingly rich and heavy aroma. I (perhaps erroneously) figured that since the colour was so light the beer would lack all the toasty sweet malts and rich sticky caramel of a darker version. Sure enough, however, my nasal passage is becoming filled with a lightly floral bouquet of distilled fruits and brandy soaked malts. Perhaps I'll finally learn never to judge a book by its cover?

Or perhaps I won't. Urbock 23º doesn't taste nearly as good as its aroma had me believe it might. The beer is largely void of flavour and borderline distasteful when it isn't. This isn't much like a dopplebock at all. This doesn't have the flavour or characteristic of fermented grains - it has the taste and composure of distilled fruits. It's piercingly sweet and scorching hot. The amount of boldfaced ethanol really imparts a spirit like quality.

There are hints of apple cider, muscat grapes, and candied pears but scarcely any rich maltiness or caramelization. It tastes a little like damp, processed white bread or dry cereal grains but not the honey and caramel lathered toast that makes this a typically delicious style. Schloss Eggenberg doesn't need to tout on the label that this is one of the world's strongest beers, the beer flaunts that fact on its own.

The BJCP (Beer Judge Certification Program) lists Urbock 23º as a notable commercial example of the dopplebock style - I'm not entirely sure why? I know that paler versions can exist but this didn't exactly exhibit all that is great with this rich German style. Eggenberg says this is known in many countries as the "Cognac of beers". While it does taste a little similar it certainly doesn't share one bit of the complexity or elegance.

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Photo of hansavijaticar
4/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Clear orange, no head. Apricot liqueur, honey, caramel. Sweetness balanced with alcohol. No bitterness. Boozy, not my kind of beer, but original.

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Photo of shivtim
2.8/5  rDev -23.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Classy looking bottle. Once poured, looks like clear honey-orange with lots of little bubbles. Small thick white head. Nose is fruity alcohol, with slight grass and must. Taste is syrupy ethanol, with an odd spiciness and some unbalanced hops. Mouthfeel is average, drinkability is hurt by the taste. Doesn't seem to fit the style.

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Photo of Erdinger2003
2.63/5  rDev -27.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Crisp, clear, and golden with a very small amount of lacing. It has a very nice lacing as well. The smell is light and more of a straight lager smell than a doppelbock. Tastes like a regular lager too, but with a big kick of alcohol. It feels pretty bad on the palate. I don't think I would ever have this beer again, mostly because it didn't taste like a doppelbock and it was high in alcohol enough to damage the taste.

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Photo of tmzl
3.49/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Look: Pours with average fizzy foam, fast retention, tiny bubbles. Clear, golden with a bit of amber hue. Fair amount of lacing and light carbonation. Good looking lager.

Smell: Honey, propolis, sugar cane, burned sugar. Some spice and wood. Very light fruity aroma for yeast. Alcohol well hidden. Smells like a huge sugar bomb.

Taste: And it is. Honey, medium/heavy sugar cane, burned sugar middle. The taste is all malt. Small spike of bitter and alcohol towards the end. Light bitterness stays with you for a while. Bitterness is mostly from sugar, wood, like chestnut honey enhanced with alcohol. Also slightly metallic on some sips.

Mouthfeel: Fat medium, smooth. Low carbonation and some alcohol warming. Not an easy drink, would be hard to drink more than one.

Overall: Solid sugar bomb, but not my cup of tea. I didn't find this type of sugar particularly tasteful. But definitely worth a try.

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Photo of Rochefort10nh
4/5  rDev +9.6%

Photo of jeiiVP
3.5/5  rDev -4.1%

Photo of DarkerTheBetter
4.65/5  rDev +27.4%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer poured a clear golden amber with a thick off white head that was sustained by a flood of bubbles from the bottom of my glass. The head was so well sustained, it stayed around until the end leaving behind dense clumps of lace.

Smelled fantastic with green grapes, marshmallow and dark caramel with a pervasive sour undertone.

Tasted of cool green grapes and peaches with a slightly smoky molasses malt that lasted surprisingly long, but then collapsed into a dirty dry juniper finish. Very impressive delayed dynamics.

The mouth feel was smooth, thick and creamy with a medium to thick body and a light playful carbonation.

Highly recommended.

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Photo of TR0219
3/5  rDev -17.8%

Photo of ohmybock
3.22/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Light gold color with no head. Doesn't look too special. Aroma is OK, has that "European" smell. Light carbonation. Upon tasting you realize that this is not your typical European lager. Starts somewhat sweet, then some heat from the alcohol kicks in. From there, I get a long lasting flavor that eventually fades to a moderate bitterness on the back of my tongue. Very smooth. Yum! Well done stong pale doppelbock. I usually prefer dunkel bocks, but this beer is quite good.

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Photo of sebaastionb
4.5/5  rDev +23.3%

Photo of falloutsnow
3.55/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle from Hy-vee in West Omaha, NE
No bottled on date
Poured into an Ayinger willi glass

Eggenberg's Urbock 23 is, true to name, a doppelbock that avoids most of the heavy, densely bread-meets-thick-caramel flavors traditional doppelbocks may employ and instead focuses on rich, but light-tasting sweetness akin to dried light fruits and butterscotch. While not super complex, and the ethanol content is a bit of a deterrent, I generally enjoyed this beer. If I had someone to split a bottle of this with in the winter months of each year, having one of these a month might be an enjoyable tradition to uphold.

Pours a 1cm, off-white head that collapses, quickly, to a thin ring around the sides of the glass. Body is a dark golden-orange color away from light, pale orange when held to my lamp. Some sluggish carbonation is visible in the transparent body.

Aroma is of malt sweetness, a bit of butterscotch, honey, and modest ethanol.

Taste opens with strong, rich, sweet caramel malt flavor. Continued caramel flavor into the mid-palate, with butterscotch arriving, as do dried fruit esters, perhaps dried and sweetened guava and papaya. Closes out with a flash of ethanol, which gradually lessens to a strong presence. This lingers to the finish, where it is joined by some subtle sweetness and dried fruit esters.

Body is medium-heavy to heavy with a modest carbonation that makes sipping this big beer appropriate and easy to do - there's no rush to gulp. The dry finish furthers this, each sip proves satisfying and cleanly dry on the palate.

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Urbock 23° from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
Beer rating: 83 out of 100 with 456 ratings