Urbock 23° | Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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3.59/5
446 Ratings
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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
Austria
schloss-eggenberg.at

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.60%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by Bierman9 on 12-05-2001

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pDev:
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Photo of DerBayer
4.47/5  rDev +24.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A - A beautiful amber, decent head but nothing spectacular

S - Fruit, citrus aromas, some alcohol (remember its 9%+) and malt and hops

T - tastes the way it smells very nice and complex beer

M - Medium carbonation, medium try on the tongue and quite creamy and smooth for the style

D - Could be very high but you feel and taste the alcohol after a while also it s a bit acidic after a while in other words could be a 5 but is more like a 4 - goes down well

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Photo of templar316
3.98/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a cisp golden amber, the off-white head falling back quickly. Wow, I can't believe how light it is for a dopplebock, maybe mai-bock. The nose is understated sour apples and alcohol. The flavor explodes with apple tartness, noble hop bitterness and honey sweetness. The head has been working throughout with great laceing on the sip, enticing you to another. The alcohol nose slowing you down. Nice crisp efferviscence ealy as it crosses the toungue, and a malty blanke late. It certainly earns the title "cognac of beers" I would have another.

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Photo of AccidentalKate
3.87/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Appearance: Gold/Orange coloring. TRanslucent, with a light head, off white and yellow tint, that lasts all of maybe five minutes.

Smell: Lots of malt, and a hint of citrus. No hops to be found in the smell.

Taste: a bit more savory than sweet up front, although sweetness comes on soon enough. Nice malt taste, with what feels like a hint of smoke in the mix. The finish lasts a long while, which is pleasant, and there is a bit of hops here. Not much, but enough for it to make you aware.

Mouthfeel: It doesn't zip on the palate, and, quite frankly, seems a bit lifeless. But it's not bad per se, it's just not making an impression. Light carbonation, and a slight creamy texture if you want to know.

Drinkabilty: It's a good beer. Not a great one, but a good one. The flavor makes up of the mouthfeel.

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Photo of paco1029384756
2.7/5  rDev -24.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours a clear, golden orange color with a small fizzy white head.

Scent of apples, sugars, bready malts, and some alcohol. Too sweet, but not an unpleasant amount of sweetness.

Taste of bready malts, grain, sugars, copper, and alcohol. The alcohol isn't too strong, but with the strong sweetness it doesn't help things.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and smooth, but flat and somewhat syrupy.

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Photo of markaberrant
3.87/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - golden, brilliant clairty, low white head, dancing carbonation bubbles to start, no lacing

S - sweet (but crisp) pils malt. mild grassiness, herbal, very clean

T - very clean, smooth pils malt, good bit of sweetness, but not cloying, herbal hops flavour very nice, aftertaste is mostly malt, with more herbal

M - low carbonation, med high body, full feeling, still manages to finish quite dry, alcohol helps with this, warming

D - beautifully crafted, but how much of this can you really drink?

This is a really nice pale doppelbock, the dry finish really helps this out from being a syrupy mess. However, there just aint a whole lot going on here; very low hopping and pils malt. This combo works great in a low gravity helles for sessioning, but when you are approaching 10% abv, I'm looking for something a little more dynamic.

Warning: this beer can be a little hot when young, but some aging will do wonders. This review was done in Jun 09, which matches the best before date on the bottle.

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.73/5  rDev -24%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12 ounce bottle - 3.99 at Total Wine & More in Kennesaw, Georgia.

Appearance: Pours a rather clear, orangey-golden body with a smallish, whitish head. Not exactly what I was expecting, I must say.

Smell: Sweet-smelling golden raisin puree dosed with a few shots of grain alcohol and tempered with touches of grain and clover honey.

Taste: Dusky, sweet graininess yields to a tart taste of raisin liqueur with sharp alcoholic hotness. Tastes of honey interject. Then, it's hot again. Tastes of steeped grain try to rebound. Then, it's hot again. Fleeting touch of floral hops and bitterness. Then it's back to the sweetness (flirting with cloying) and alcoholic heat (toying with unpleasant) all through the end and finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation. Alcohol heat all the while.

Drinkability: A real disappointment. Goes back and forth between being sickly sweet at times and unpleasantly hot. Regrettably, it's like the malt liquor of dopplebocks.

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Photo of smcolw
3.63/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Clear, neutral gold color. Modest head that dies quickly to a single layer of bubbles.

Slightly skunky in the nose. More malt, as expected, than hop. A touch caramel and bit of earthiness to the smell.

Strong alcohol bite to the swallow. More hop bitterness than most doppelbocks, but still retains its malty character. Thick body with a low level of carbonation. Short lived aftertaste--dominated by the alcoholic warmth.

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Photo of Ralphus
2.32/5  rDev -35.4%
look: 2 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1.5

Any time the label on a beer reads "..this beer is known as the Congac of beers" or "Champagne" or any other drink that's NOT beer - you know you're going to get something fairly poor. And surprise surprise..

Urbock 23 pours a little bit like fizzy pee. There's no head, lacing or any other staying of carbonation at the top of the beer, coupled with the colour of apple juice makes it receive a poor grade. Anyone giving it a good rating is probably drunk.

In the smell we have some white wine. That's about it.

The taste is big sweetness and malt up front which then transitions to a long drawn out finish comprised of alcohol. There's nothing interesting here at all. No balance and certainly not any complexity.

It's not often I consider a drain pour but this one qualifies.

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Photo of EatsTacos
2.94/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours a clear golden amber with basically no head at all. Looks like watery apple juice

Aroma: A little sour and fruity; apples, pears, alcohol isn't hidden

Taste: Begins with a mix of sweet and sour fruit flavours. Apple skins, sugary pears come to mind. Finishes sour with a lingering bitterness. Not overly dry and doesn't make any atempt to hide the alcohol.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with an extremely low carbonation.

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Photo of yemenmocha
4.7/5  rDev +30.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pours honey golden with thin white head. Nose is beautiful & delicate with honey, maybe honeydew, and faint malt. A leap of malt comes forward on the palate, with honey, and a luxurious malt component. Viscous body is amazing, and the beer has a hard to describe "hearty" character that is so lovable in bocks.

Fine example, though I think it is more of a Helles bock than a traditional doppel.

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Photo of StrangeBrewer76
3.76/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Light gold pour with little light head thinning out relatively quickly in my glass.

I smell apple skins and cider. No malt, no hops. I'm skeptical.

Tastes of disappointment and pears. Caramelized pear in the body portion that is ushered in and out on fizzy dollies leaving unfermented sugar stains on the carpet of your tongue. I could see this as a weak Belgian triple but a doppelbock this is not.

In all fairness I am relatively new to the world of beer tasting so I could be way off on this but I know there are others in my general experience bracket who will benefit from my experience. I hope to revisit this one when I have more under my belt.

Mouthfeel is generally good but I'm getting a lot of soft carbonation with just a little wash of a medium body in the middle third of the sip.

Drinkability, under controlled circumstances is pretty good. I might have a few of these but with the ABV and relative body in the mouth, three would be plenty.

I'm guessing this was one of the best beers in the world in 1700 but since then only the hype has grown in quality.

I'll try this again at some point in the future in case my tastes evolve but currently, I'm not looking forward to it.

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Photo of wchesak
3.66/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured into a La Fin du Monde tulip

A- golden straw color with a minimal head that leaves quickly and leaves hardly any lacing, by halfway through there is no evidence of lacing

S- smells more like liquor than beer, with very sweet notes like a brandy, slight hop background, definitely can pick up the alcohol

T- do not see this as a doppelbock, the alcohol is present throughout, finally giving way to malt towards the end

M- light to medium body with enough carbonation

D- with the ABV, not a lot, and still can not get past its supposed style

eggenberg has better offerings, like Samichlaus, which has a higher alcohol percent but so much more beer like

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Photo of chinabeergeek
3.17/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

330ml (?) bottle. no date found. poured into tulip.

clear straw color with amber tones. moderate head soon fades to just wisps and a foamy ring. lacing doesn't stick. eventually, the whole thing has no head at all. nothing.

smells like brandy or cognac, with fruity tones. caramel maltiness and very faint grassy hop, going into a slightly alcoholic and phenolic end.

tastes starts with sweet maltiness and caramel, with more fruity cognac, but also with the same boozy quality of a cheap distilled spirit. faint hops and bitterness only slightly offset all the booze, phenols and fusels.

mouthfeel manages to stay smoother and even lightly syrupy. gentle to moderate carbonation livens things up slightly.

still not a fan though.

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Photo of IBUnit63
3.37/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Into my Alpine mug this thing goes...

Pours like...well...apple juice. Head is limited to a few little thin wisps. There's at least some carbonation...it's thin but it's moving quickly.

Sweetness is quite pleasant and well-integrated with the stewy Germanic malt...not so much Pilsener as Marzen-esque. Silage from Saaz hops makes an appearance, as does a slight presence of alcohol underneath the viscous sweetness.

Woof...there's a fairly metallic tinge up top...then the alcoholic sweetness meshes in lightly with the Saaz hop silage and clammy, stewy malt. A little warmth cleans it up a bit but there's a sort of wet dog quotient to it. Huh.

It's warming on the palate, which is good. There's a dry alcoholic burn...with that metallic deal...and on the finish yet another blast o' burn sends you on your way.

This one is, needless to say, a bit disappointing. It may be a little old but it didn't do a lot or me and the elements were scattered. Next.

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Photo of bobsy
3.16/5  rDev -12%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Very light lustrous golden body with a foamy white head that kicked up a bit of lace, but soon settled to an attractive spotty film. It reminded me a lot of a barleywine, and the high ABV seems more in line with that. It looks good, but it certainly doesn't look how it should for a doppelbock. The aroma is sweet and grainy, with a slight spiciness and noticeable alcohol.

Initial taste is quite sweet, and the alcohol is apparent, although it serves to dry the sweetness out a little and provide some more balance. There's also a bit of grain mixed in with the sweetness. There's not much to it at all, but for cheap beer who's complaining? Very syrupy, almost oily mouthfeel. Its really more of a sipper due to the heaviness of the alcohol, mouthfeel and sugar, but its a solid enough. The combined sweetness and high alcohol make this an almost certain headache inducer for me.

Eggenberg's take on the doppelbock style isn't particularly to my liking - they come in as far too sweet, and not nearly bready enough. This is probably my final attempt at a beer from these guys.

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Photo of Chelsea1905
4/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Very nice looking. Golden light amber with yellow hued edges. The head was nice and light, but died away quickly and left no lacing. But the colour made up for it, and I wasn't expecting too much lacing from a bock anyway.

Nice light malty, but complex, backbone. There smells as if there is a bouquet of flowers in there, but all of them are dark flowers...if that makes sense. Not too much European hops, but the sweetness of the malt is really pleasing.

Quite alcoholic in it's taste when you breathe in over the top of it on your palate. But then the sweet malt takes over and leavs a nice full lagery taste on the tongue.

This is a really nicely balanced beer, and it gets 4's across the board from me. The mouthfeel isn't quite an Ale, but isn't a lager either. Very nice.

At almost 10% I doubt too many of these would be had, but I drank this smooth beauty quite quickly

Scott

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Photo of biegaman
3.33/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A lustrous golden body with a very tight hugging crown. The beer looks classy and enticing: it is magnificently clear, outlined in bleach white and its complexion beams with light. An upright pour mustered a whirlwind of bubbles to rapidly spin up the beer like a vortex. These little prints of carbonation continue to drift skyward but now at a much more casual pace. This looks marvelous albeit nothing like it should according to style guideline.

For such a light coloured beer it has a surprisingly rich and heavy aroma. I (perhaps erroneously) figured that since the colour was so light the beer would lack all the toasty sweet malts and rich sticky caramel of a darker version. Sure enough, however, my nasal passage is becoming filled with a lightly floral bouquet of distilled fruits and brandy soaked malts. Perhaps I'll finally learn never to judge a book by its cover?

Or perhaps I won't. Urbock 23º doesn't taste nearly as good as its aroma had me believe it might. The beer is largely void of flavour and borderline distasteful when it isn't. This isn't much like a dopplebock at all. This doesn't have the flavour or characteristic of fermented grains - it has the taste and composure of distilled fruits. It's piercingly sweet and scorching hot. The amount of boldfaced ethanol really imparts a spirit like quality.

There are hints of apple cider, muscat grapes, and candied pears but scarcely any rich maltiness or caramelization. It tastes a little like damp, processed white bread or dry cereal grains but not the honey and caramel lathered toast that makes this a typically delicious style. Schloss Eggenberg doesn't need to tout on the label that this is one of the world's strongest beers, the beer flaunts that fact on its own.

The BJCP (Beer Judge Certification Program) lists Urbock 23º as a notable commercial example of the dopplebock style - I'm not entirely sure why? I know that paler versions can exist but this didn't exactly exhibit all that is great with this rich German style. Eggenberg says this is known in many countries as the "Cognac of beers". While it does taste a little similar it certainly doesn't share one bit of the complexity or elegance.

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Photo of cjgator3
2.4/5  rDev -33.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

11.2oz bottle

A- Pours a dark golden yellow with orangish hues and a thin fizzy white head.

S- The aroma is very sweet and metallic with a lot of honey and very boozy as well.

T- The taste like the aroma is too sweet for my palate with a lot of sweet honey and not nearly enough bittering hops to balance out the sweetness at all.

M- The mouthfeel is light to medium bodied with a low amount of carbonation.

D- Overall, this is not a horrible brew, but at the same time it is way to sweet for me to enjoy.

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Photo of wl0307
4.03/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

BB 10/2009, served chilled in a tulip-shaped wine glass. The label says this beer "matures in the cellar for 9 months, till it is fully fermented and turns amber in colour"... a very interesting fact that I've learned today.

A: just slightly translucent dark orange-golden to amber hue, with good clarity and moderate carbonation mixed of large and tiny bubbles, while the white fluffy head settles fast to a thin blanket.
S: clean on the nose, suggesting yellow prunes and honey-ish malts; a swirl gives rise to a faint sweet lemony note, melted crystal-sugar, a metallic touch, a soothing floral aroma as of noble hops, and a sharp/dense fruity touch as of preserved pineapples (very common to a strong ale/lager, though I don't know where it comes from). Very settled and integrated, neither intrusive nor boring; rather nice!
T: a lubricating-, even oily-, textured thick-syrupy (like sugar-cane juice) maltiness upfront is closely ensued by a clean floral-hop palate, and quickly overtaken by an even cleaner hop bitterness with an unconventional spicy "bite". Not particularly bitter in the aftertaste, but here the residual sour-sweet fruity hints of yellow-prunes (apparently from the long-ageing process?) and crystal-sugar manage to linger well, resulting in a thick but never cloying nor alcoholic finish.
M&D: syrupy-rich on the palate but the smooth carbonation remains the refreshing input to keep the balance right, and the alc. (9.6%abv.) really is surprisingly well-hidden! Having tried only a couple of Eisbock/Doppelbock, I must say I find this one a very well-made bock benefiting from a sound body and supreme balance. Not a "wow" kind of beer in my book, but really I can't doubt the integrity of the overall performance at all and can surely kill a few bottles when my budget allows it!

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Photo of allboutbierge
3.28/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Not bad at all, but a rather unexciting beer.

Appearance is very clear and a bit lighter than expected. Carbonation is almost nil. Aroma is very boozy, flavor is the same and very sweet. Dried cherries? Dried Pear? Sweet aftertaste. Taste of alcohol is substantial. Drinks almost like a cognac.

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Photo of Macca
3.74/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This poured a copper colour. A centimetre or two of head drops away to a light covering. Clear.

A sweet aroma. Alcohol is very evident.

A nice whack of alcoholic warmth on the palate. Some nice sweet fruits as well. They have found a pretty good balance here with the alcohol.

The mouthfeel is almost syrupy. It has great length.

It is certainly not a session beer, and they are kidding themselves with the "one of the strongest beers in the world" line especially when they make a 14% monster themselves but it is a good sipper. A nicely balanced end of the night brew.

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Photo of droomyster
3.42/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Pours a clear yellow that borders on orange, with very little in the way of head thanks. This beer bleeds alcohol fumes so much that it almost burns the eyes and nose; seriously, the overwhelming alcoholic action detracts from what might otherwise be an excellent beer. It has fruity, sweet aromas; its interesting that and earthy, herbaceous hops are detectable on the nose but not so much on the palate. Tastes of a carmelly, syrupy sweetness with too much alcohol. Its smooth full body is its best characteristic. An interesting beer with some jagged edges; worth trying.

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Photo of thekanna
3.82/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Had this at The Saloon on U St., Washington, D.C.

Appearance: Coppery, clear color with no head (or head that dissipated quickly).

Smell: Faint yeasts and cloves. Overall honey sweetness.

Taste: Honey is the most apparent taste; somewhat reminiscent of Barbar. Overtones of almost honey-sweetened black tea, with slight nuttiness. There seems to be an icy, refreshing complexion to the beer that makes it colder in your mouth than the temperature at which the beer was served.

Overall: A nice sipping beer; good for sampling, but too basic to justify the price for a small glass.

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Photo of froghop
2.67/5  rDev -25.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

pours a clear dark yellow with a thin white head that goes away quickly, and no lacing.

smell is of grapes, fruit, some floral, alcohol, and citrus in the back.

taste is flat, sweet fruit, and malt, ends slightly bitter and warming.

overall i would not classify this as a doppelbock more of a belgium ale.

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Photo of beerthulhu
3.62/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Poured a medium golden-orange color with a thin compact white head.

S: a sweet malt aroma with noticeable sugar and honey sweetness along with fruit and alcohol.

T: The flavor was sweet, with some honeynut bread for flavor with some fresh fruit, cantelope, mellons. Very sweet grains in the start before finishing with some sour orange peels and a good bittering hop bite.

M: hot and spicy, sweet and syrupy.

D: Okay drinkability, different per style but really sweet and sugary with a dose of alcohol may limit repeats. A decent try but wouldn't bother having seconds on this one.

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Urbock 23° from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
Beer rating: 3.59 out of 5 with 446 ratings
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