Urbock 23° | Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
Austria
schloss-eggenberg.at

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.60%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by Bierman9 on 12-05-2001

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3.58
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Photo of zeff80
3.77/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - Poured out a pale amber color with a foamy/bubbly, white, two-finger head. it left small traces of lace.

S - It smelled sweet and fruity (raisins). It also had a spicy aroma.

T - It tasted sweet and malty. It had a fruity quality. It almost tasted like an English Barleywine.

M - It was soft, creamy and smooth. A medium to heavy-bodied beer.

D - This is an interesting beer. It didn't look like most dopplebocks or taste like one. But it was good.

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Photo of soulgrowl
2.01/5  rDev -43.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 1.5

Appearance: Oktoberfest-lookin' bright sunflower golden yellow; puffy white head with fair retention despite big bubbles and audibly active carbonation.

Smell: The similarities to Oktoberfest aren't only skin-deep, apparently. Corny caramel malts with a hint of dry-roasted peanuts. Weak, grassy hops and a pinch of nondescript, spicy alcohol do little to counter the dead weight of the malts.

Taste: Brashly alcoholic with almost no body or character to counter it; less a Doppelbock than just a strong pale lager. Extremely vapid malts offer a slight corny/grainy flavor and a candy sweetness, but none of the depth or heft necessary in a beer of this strength. Hops are actually fairly strong, but their citric/leafy flavor is decimated by the alcohol and carbonation. What a mess.

Mouthfeel: Spritzy yet thick.

Drinkability: This is an exceptionally unpleasant Doppelbock. Avoid.

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Photo of allergictomacros
3.1/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a clear gold with loose white head. Bodes poorly perhaps.

S - Aroma is quite boozy, with floral hints, malty sweetness and a musty touch.

T - Very sweet, very boozy, and lots of grainy malt. Enough hops for balance, but definitely overwhelmed by the sweet malt.

M - Slick and syrupy. Maybe a touch too much fizz.

D - Not bad. There is some measure of balance in this, to counter the huge alcohol. Tastes like a very sweet maibock.

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Photo of Antilochus
3.45/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Yet another Doppelbock in the 2008 LCBO Spring Release! Back to back with the WKAB. 9.60% abv, 330mL bottle. Best before 06/2009. Cellar temp. Poured into an oversized wine glass.

Compared to the WKAB this is extremely light. Deep golden transparent yellow, just a hint of a white collar and some small bubbles on top. Looks like a maibock. Repoured and got a bit more of a head out of it.

Nose is a little closed. Boozy and sweet. Has a lot more lager characteristic - this is my third doppelbock ever and it is very different than all the others. Marshmallow, if that makes sense - probably more just refined sugar.

Palate is honeyed, herbal, bitter. A bit buttery. Highly alcoholic, but it works. A touch of citrus, which is nice. Thankfully the finish is nicely bitter and noble hop spicy, which keeps it from being cloying and near-undrinkable at such high abv.

Extreme beer, Euro style.

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Photo of grub
2.86/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

330ml bottle, best before 06 2009. sampled march 23/08.

pours crystal clear golden yellow with a small fine white head. the head drops very fast and leaves only a few scant spots of lace.

aroma is ok. definite lager/bock character in there. some dms too. bit of corn. actually smells more like a macro lager than any doppel i've had. bit of grain and cracker malt. light alcohol.

taste is nice. low bitterness level. bit of alcohol. pleasant honey and caramel sweetness. bit of toffee. light bread and cracker malts. touch of grain. there's also a toasty, almost burnt, character hiding in the background that is out of place and i'm not really enjoying. now that i've noticed it i feel like it's all i can taste. the longer it sits the more the DMS+corn start to come out too, really taking away from this one.

mouthfeel is good. medium-low carbonation level. medium body.

drinkability is ok. the alcohol stays hidden fairly well, only showing itself as a gentle spreading warmth by about half way through the bottle. it also got worse as it warmed, and i ended up dumping about half of it. overall i wasn't impressed with this one. there are plenty of better doppelbocks out there.

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Photo of mmmbeer
4.09/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From an 11.2 oz. olive bottle that lacks a freshness date. The beer pours a crystal-clear, yellow-tinged orange with low carbonation. It's capped with a finger of off-white head that reduces to a collar and doesn't really lace the glass. The aroma is very enticing and chock full of fruits: apples, white grapes, apricots, peaches, dried banana, and hints of candy corn. Pretty similar on the palate, with the addition of oranges, melon?, late green/grassy hops, and a light dosing of alcohol. Not as sweet as I would have thought based on the bouquet (but this is a good thing), and the fairly smooth, tingly and dry, medium body supplies a nice base. I don't think I've ever tried a helles dopplebock, but this brew is interesting and tasty - definitely worth a try.

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Photo of CAMRAhardliner
3.3/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a deep gold color, bordering on amber. The wispy white head immediately recedes to a small ring leaving only a patch or two of lace behind. Aromas of raisin cake and dark rum fill the vicinity of the glass. Alcohol spicyness is all over the place. It takes the lead in the taste too with a fusel, almost rubbing alcohol feel. Midsip some chewy malt flavors emerge reminding me that this isnt just some cheap malt liquor. Banana and ripe cherries mingle with pixie sticks sweetness and a limpid, leafy hop presence. The mouthfeel is thick, bordering on syrupy but not quite. Carbonation is very minimal. The finish is sweet and somewhat boozey, hop bitterness very low.

An OK strong lager, probably on the light end of the scale for a Doppelbock in color and maltiness. Worth a try for sure, but not as good as Samichlaus.

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Photo of dreadnatty08
3.94/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours on the very light side of a doppelbock, a crystal clear golden yellow color. Not much of a head is formed, about an eighth of an inch with okay tracing. The aroma is really intriguing, lots of caramel coated fruit. Very little to no roastiness, just a light toasted wheat note. Overall, the aroma seems just too fruity for the style, but again, this is on the lighter color and perhaps it's more appropriate. On the palate it is incredibly rich and sweet. It reminds me more of Samiclaus than any other doppelbock. There is a little toasted flavor, but it just isn't like any other doppel. Carbonation is very low providing a very thick, viscous mouthfeel. This beer is what I would call close to a white port, though I haven't drank one. Alcohol is quite apparent but not overbearing. Overall, I enjoy this beer and see how it's flavors mirror a lot from experimental brewers like Sam Calagione and the folks at Avery.

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Photo of avalon07
3.8/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle to a flute glass. Had a surprisingly thin texture, with a dark, yellowish color. Miniscule head and very little lacing.

There was a sweetness, along with some malt in the smell.

The taste was interesting. It had the aforementioned malt, but also a tinge of apples. It was odd. Not bad, somewhat sweet, though.

The mouthfeel was okay. It had an above average amount of carbonation, but did possess a good, smooth finish.

This is a decently drinkable beer. Not exactly what I was expecting, but good nonetheless. Fairly complex, but not as much as other beers.

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Photo of gueuzeonhigh
3.65/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

When I see "Bock" or Doppelbock" on the label I immediately have certain expectations. This Eggenberg didn't quite fill those expectations.

It poured with a color somewhat lighter than I expected it would-- looked more like an ale--a clear amber color.

As I began to pour, my hopes were piqued as the nose wafted with a sudden almost floral bouquet and then suddenly as I hoped for more.. nothing. Swirling cajoling, prodding the libation in my glass, begging pleading... produced nothing more. A deep inhale... I think there was some hints of alcohol and malt. I think.

Flavor-- many of the things that make a dopplebock a dopple bock were present--. malty but not cloying, the hops balanced the malt, and the malt has the upper hand in the flavor balance. The beer isn't really sweet nor did it trigger the thoughts of syrup in my beer tasting mind, but there is unmistakable presence of alcohol, hops and malt. I think I can taste caramel in there as well. But overall this beer seems like it's a rather one-dimensional flavor dominated by the malt signature and then the alcohol all teetering on the fulcrum of hops bitterness.

Nevertheless, the mouthfeel was cordial and quite satisfying brew.

Drinkability- sure enough I sucked the last little droplet out of my glass and then nursed the bottle for the vapors... so I could quaff a few bottles of this in a sitting. But the 9.6% ABV made itself known. Still, when I consider the whole A-S-T-M-D scenario, there are other bock biers that produce a greater satisfaction in my beer-lover tummy---

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Photo of Beertracker
4.17/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Schloss Eggenberg Urbock 23° pours up compact with a small, short lived whitish head that rings the slightly hazy, deep sunglow body. The sweetish aroma has a wonderful breadiness to it with some toasted (Melba toast, saltine cracker) maltiness and fruity (clementines, orange marmalade) qualities. There's just a hint of floral spiciness from the Noble finishing hops that's underlying the maltiness along with some notable alcohol. Otherwise clean, low fruitiness, no diacetyl or DMS. The flavor is dominated by a rich toasted, sweet melanoidin maltiness that's remarkably well balanced by a pleasant spicy hop bitterness. This medium-full bodied lager finishes remarkably smooth with some alcoholic warmth & complexity. This is a finely crafted pale doppelbock from one of the world's great lager breweries. Enjoy this one paired with some traditional Knabber Nossis (dried sausage) and buttery Grinzing cheese accompanied by freshly baked European sweetbread.

PROST! Beertracker

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Photo of beergeekjoey
4.35/5  rDev +21.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Slightly dirty gold, very light haze. Pours with low, crisp, white head which rapidly subsides to a narrow collar.

S: Initially, a sharp metallic oxidation aroma dominates. Having had this beer before and not having experienced it makes it likely that this beer was mishandled -- perhaps heated. Once that initial rush fades, golden raisins, malt sweetness, alcohol fruit/vinous aromas, and some light spicy/fruity (Saaz??) hop aromas take over. Nice complexity and balance. As it warms further, apricot note comes out.

T: Metallic (a mouthful of tin can shavings) sharpness dominates. Same comment as smell - this is unusual. Malt sweetness up front -- might be cloying except for the strong alcohol bite. Balance is excellent, but leans toward the bitter/sharp (more alcohol sharp than hop bitter, but both apparent). Strong tingle on the tongue in the finish from alcohol.

M/D: Full body, but seems very drinkable for all that. Very smooth with a great deal of alcohol warming and slight burning sensation.

Overall: The oxidation is disappointing, but the underlying beer is still excellent. Complex and smooth -- an excellent golden doppelbock.

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Photo of Proteus93
4.17/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Very pale amber / light gold. Sparkling, with something of a champagne quality, little head.

S: Candied dark fruits, with an additional, almost pear-like aroma. Some herbal hops coming through.

T: An excellent sweet malt / hops balance. A little plum tasting, with that bit of pear sneaking through again... kind of interesting on that point. While retaining the sweet flavours, bitter hops come out more through the body, with an alcohol finish.

M + D: Semi-heavy mouthfeel, but not too thick. Carbonation settles over the tongue. I would gladly have a couple or more of these, but I'm sure the alcohol would catch me off guard, so it's one to excercise some restraint with. If that can be done, it's a good call.

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Photo of BeerSox
3.02/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Bottle into Scandanavian mug.

Hazy golden, which is a surprise for me. That's very light for a doppelbock. A thin off white head slowly settles to a thick rim.

The smell is more typical of a doppelbock - thick and sugary with loads of caramel and not much hop aroma.

This is a very sharp tasting beer, with the alcohol doing a lot of the talking. The flavor is overwall somewhat sweet, with the caramel showing up in the middle. A bit of hops bitterness shows up in the finish, but that's about it. Most of the focus is on the strong alcohol. Full bodied.

The feel of this one is just too harsh, especially for the style. I can only take a sip each time, almost like a strong Barleywine or an over-the-top Strong Ale.

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Photo of tkach
3.85/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer poured a pretty regular golden color with a white head, nothing too exciting but I did find hints of cloudyness which was a bit interesting.

The smell was somewhat bland, although I did happen to find hints of a fruity tartness which I liked, if it were a bit more potent I would probably have loved it.

I really liked the taste it was nice and clean and solid for the amount of alcohol in it. There was a nice subtle bite afterwards which reminded me of drinking green tea. Overall a delicious full bock.

Mouthfeel I liked. Flavor lingered a bit which was good in this case and the little bite I really enjoyed. Maybe a bit dry and even less sticky towards the end.

I found this beer to be very drinkable considering my style which made it fun because of the alcohol level in this beer. Went down smooth and it was very tasty.

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Photo of jwc215
4.12/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours deep golden with a thin white head that becomes a receding patch.

The smell is of a melon-like fruitiness with caramel and a touch of lemon peel.

The taste is of candy caramel, mint and a melon-like fruitiness. Very malty with a noticeable peppery alcohol presence. Just a nod of earthy hops. Finishes warm and sweet.

Syrupy and full bodied with a surprising light/creamy feel considering the syrupy texture and booziness.

The alcohol does let itself known loud and clear giving it a boozy character. It is unique - fits into the style in a broad sense. A wonderful sipping dessert brew.

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Photo of geexploitation
3.12/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Pours very clear and light for a doppelbock -- it's really more pilsner colored. No head to speak of, though that's no surprise given the ABV. Aromas are quite sweet, with a honeyish character in the background and candied stone fruits up front. There's a hint of drying spice underneath everything, and a slight hop presence that comes out only at higher temperatures. On the palate, things start out with a touch of overdone sweetness, then hop bitterness and then an astringent spiciness that leaves a bitter aftertaste at the finish. Mouthfeel is zippy and light. Overall, I'll say about this exactly what I say about Samichlaus: it ain't a doppelbock, first of all. However, whereas Samichlaus, especially with some age, shows some softness and depth of flavor in the fruit column, this beer has none of that. Maybe it will come with time, but for now this is only middling.

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Photo of shivtim
2.8/5  rDev -21.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Classy looking bottle. Once poured, looks like clear honey-orange with lots of little bubbles. Small thick white head. Nose is fruity alcohol, with slight grass and must. Taste is syrupy ethanol, with an odd spiciness and some unbalanced hops. Mouthfeel is average, drinkability is hurt by the taste. Doesn't seem to fit the style.

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Photo of thierrynantes
3.7/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Sorry but this following comment is in french :

Appearance : bière blonde dorée lumineuse, belle mousse onctueuse et abondante
Smell : arôme très profond de malt
Taste and mouthfeel : sucrée très moelleuse
Drinkability : bonne bière très riche forte (9.9%, gravité de 23) et sucrée

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Photo of paulthebeerguru
4.2/5  rDev +17.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a golden yellow with a light thin head, which doesn't appear to look like a typical dopplebock. The aromas are of strong alcohol, but not unappealing, and honey, almost mead-like. The taste is great, traces of honey as well as oak, and a strong alcohol taste, which isn't surprising coming from Brewery Castle Eggenberg, the maker of Samichlaus. This beer is very good, but it is definately not a session beer by any means. This beer needs to be savored, and let it warm up a little bit.

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Photo of cabsandking
2.45/5  rDev -31.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Clear golden color with a slim fizzy white head that dissipates almost as soon as it was formed. Sweet white grape juice, apple juice, and slightly grainy nose. Hot alcohol is not hiding here and lends to a hard metallic flavor. Dry grains, peppery spice, and a slight mint character seems out place for a Doppel. Medicinal to vinous at times. The mouthfeel is fair, a good fullness and a nice carbonation. Kind of confused with this one?

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Photo of IPAcraig
3.44/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I picked this beer up in Nashville. Poured into my Einbecker Ur-Bock glass.

It pours a light gold, semi-transparent with no head; just a few bubbles going up the side of the glass.

Intense dark fruits in the aroma (wow I wasnt expecting that), with a nice malt presence as well.

Same as before with the dark fruit, which is truly unexpected for a fairly light colored beer. A very strong alcohol taste is fairly dominant in this beer. It had a nice aroma, but a muddled, boozy taste that didnt improve with warmth.

Creamy, syrupy, medium bodied with very little carbonation. A bit to syrupy to be pleasant.

Hard to put down with the alcohol presence and lack of carbonation.

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Photo of PlaywrightSam
4.04/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle into tulip glass. A: Golden/yellow, very white puffy head that retains moderately well. Minimal lacing. Surprisingly light for an urbock. S: Lighter malts, alcohol present, some fruit, very faint hops. T: Sweet up front, honey, grains, citrus and floral notes, a pretty clean taste. I can taste the alcohol, but it's nothing overwhelming. M: Very smooth, chewy. D: The only other beer I've had from Eggenberg is the famed Samichlaus, and it's actually got a similar feel. I'm wondering if it has to do with the yeast strain. In any case, it's very enjoyable, and very drinkable for such a high abv.

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Photo of DaPeculierDane
4.25/5  rDev +18.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A very strange, surprising, and…um…dangerous beer. Tapped at Wonder’s Pub in Madison, WI last week and listed as “Ur Bock Belgian Ale.” I wasn’t sure what to think of it.

Ur Bock 23 pours a bright gold with a thick but short lived white froth. Certainly looks like a Belgian Strong Pale Ale. Strong and sweet fruity aromas dominate but I can’t tell if they come from alcohol or just a rather interesting yeast. Bread and biscuits follow.

The flavor is huge and boozey but not as boozey a 9.6% would indicate. Barley sugars, sweet fruity alcohol, orange scones drizzled in honey, and just a touch of herbal hops.

Mouthfeel reminds me of Kasteel Bruine primarily because this beer captures the extreme level of sweetness I recently tasted in the Kasteel. Ur Bock on the otherhand is noticeable larger, though not a large in terms of body or booze feel/taste as one would expect from a 9.6% beer. Ur Bock is both huge and subdued and deceiving at the same time.

Drinkability… Well I had my first glass with a burger and left not knowing quite what beer I had consumed. I returned during a beer club meeting and confirmed that this was a beer from Eggenberg and not a Belgian as I had been lead to believe earlier. I should have know that any beer from Eggenberg would pack a major punch but I ignored this and went ahead drinking 4 chalices with ease. I really enjoyed this beer that seems to me to be yeast and alcohol focused in almost its entirety and would drink it again…although…the headache that arrived a few hours after drinking four wasn’t fun…

Stylistically, I just don’t see anything Doppelbockish about this but perhaps that is what makes it so unique.

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Photo of HotterThanHell
2.43/5  rDev -32.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Never had an UrBock before, and if this is typical of the style I won't have many more.

The beer pours a nice golden color with a thin head that quickly dissipates.

The smell is...well let's just say I got too close and now I won't have to trim my nose hairs for my trip to Germany.

The taste is dominated by alcohol and really interfers with any malt flavor that might be standing at the back of the line.

Did I hate it? No, but I will be in Bamberg next week just in time for one of the breweries there to tap their famous Urbock. Check for that review to ascertain if this style is worth a try or not.

Prost!....Just about 24 hours or so until TTU94 causes another international incident.

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Urbock 23° from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
3.58 out of 5 based on 443 ratings.
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