Urbock 23° | Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
Austria | website

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.60%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by Bierman9 on 12-05-2001

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299
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435
Avg:
3.58
pDev:
20.95%
 
 
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Photo of Bighuge
2.42/5  rDev -32.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Clear golden color. A bit of skunk on the nose. A bit of an off flavor. Slightly skunky. Tastes a bit like many European beers that I've had in bottles. Has that "European" skunk to me. Not very good. I'm surprised a bit because I really enjoyed their samichlaus bier.

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Photo of RBorsato
4.22/5  rDev +17.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Solid gold with a low-decent off-white head and constant low-moderate carbonation with slow bubbles; light in color for the style. Strong all malt aroma and flavor with moderate sweetness, some spiciness, and light alcohol notes. Full bodied with a rich robust mouthfeel and flavor.

Per label: "1681" & "Originalabfullung Schloss Eggenberg" & "Das Bier Zum Salzkammergut Ale"

(11.2 oz. / .33L yellowish-brown bottle embossed with "Schloss Eggenberg" twice around the neck.

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Photo of jzeilinger
3.76/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a golden orange color, slight amount of carbonation, no head/lacing.

Smell is underwhelming. Has the aroma of small traces of toffee, sweet caramel malt, and is slightly spicy zest in character and biscuity malt.

Taste is pretty much the same as the aroma. Has mildl toffee but dominating amounts of caramel, sweet malt, mild spiciness, and finishes with a very nice hop bitterness, without it, this beer would be far too sweet with this kind of malt bill. The bittersweet finish lingers for a few minutes and there's warming in the throat from the alcohol. This can best be described as a slightly lighter version of Samichlaus. The is a moderately strong fusal alcohol presence and noticeable warming on the way down the hatch. There is a small amount of oakines in the flavor.

Has a medium body, finishes clean, not syrupy, and very smooth and somewhat creamy..

Drinkability runs high, I could enjoy two or three of these!

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Photo of jmdrpi
3.74/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- clear pale copper color, almost no head even with an aggressive pour

S - sweet malt, orange rind, a little spice

T - sugary sweet start, tart middle, alcohol finish

M - medium body, little carbonation

D - although the higher abv is detectable, it is still fairly easy to drink

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Photo of glid02
3.55/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle purchased from Five Points Bottle in Athens, GA.

Pours a clear golden-amber color with a half-finger cream-colored head. The head recedes into a thin layer on top leaving light lacing.

Smells of light and fairly sweet caramel malts with hints of vinous fruits and moderate amounts of alcohol. As it warms the alcohol influence increases a bit.

Tastes similar to how It smells. Light caramel malt flavors kick things off with hints of breadiness. The flavors turn more toward alcohol midway through the end of the sip with indistinct fruit flavors. The fruit flavors fade quickly allowing the malt and alcohol flavors to carry through to a sweet ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with moderate carbonation.

Drinkability is OK. I finished my glass without a problem however I'm not sure about another.

Overall I agree with others in that this isn't all that close to a doppelbock. It's more of a maibock but the ABV is too high to support that kind of flavor profile.

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Photo of Gusler
3.8/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The beer pours a crystal clear golden yellow; the head modest in size, frothy in texture, off white in color and it dissipates quickly leaving a silky sheet of lace to caress the glass. A touch of yeast lots of malt, fresh and clean is the nose. Big malt start that is also sweet, the top middling in its feel to the palate, finish is delectable in the hop arena, the carbonation purposeful, the aftertaste droughty, and a fine beer to be sure and well worth a sample.

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Photo of ZAP
4.23/5  rDev +18.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Clear, clean, dark gold with little head...sweet malt/vanilla tones on the nose...9% alcohol? You'd never guess it...sweet and slick with little hopping...a bit sweet for some but a good blond doppel in my book..a nice flowery hop profile would do wonders for this beer..could use some additional hopping but still very good as is..

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Photo of stcules
3.51/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Copper-old gold. Clean, with a bit of foam.
Malty smell, alcoholic notes, fruit in acohol. Maybe some hazelnut.
Again boozy in the mouth, along with light notes of almond and walnut.
Full bodied and important beer.
Again walnut and almod in the aftertaste, with warming alcohol.
Beer to sip.

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Photo of Suds
2.93/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Light amber colored beer (it actually looks something like a piece of clear amber jewelry). Intense carbonation, but a relatively thin, large-bubbled head. An almost monstrous alcohol aroma pushes other smells aside. Malty, with a very mild hopiness. Peppery, spicy smell and taste. The beer is intensely sweet, and has a harsh alcohol finish. Full bodied, sometimes creamy mouthfeel. The more that I drank of this beer, the more it became one-dimensional....sticky sweetness and intense alcohol. Not particularly drinkable.

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Photo of FLima
3.69/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 2.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Light copper color with a practically no head.
Nice malty aroma with notes of dark fruits, caramels and a bit of wood.
Sweet slightly toasted malt flavor with notes of caramel, nuts, a bit of cognac, apple puree, light herbal, red wine, chocolate and plums. Mildly dry aftertaste.
Light closer to medium body with low carbonation. Alcohol of 9.6% abv is superbly well hidden, impressive.
I usually don’t like very sweet malty beers, but this is actually a pleasant sipper. Last time I had it was almost 2 years ago, this was felt much better, and probably was not the beer that changed...

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Photo of Pencible
4.12/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This poured a bright, clear gold with a bit of off-white head. It smelled like honey wheat, molasses, and sour apple, with a bit of wild yeast and lemon grass. It tasted like honey wheat and rich barley, with a bit of lemon hops and yeast. It was watery with some carbonation, and had a bittersweet aftertaste. Overall this initially seemed very similar to the Eggengerg Dunkel, but the more I deconstructed it, the more differences I found. This was much lighter, especially for a doppelbock. But it was still quite tasty, very clean, and super easy to drink. It had decent body, and hid the alcohol very well. I probably prefer the darkness and complexity of the Dunkel, but this was still a great beer.

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Photo of RoyalT
3.95/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance – The body was a very thin and clear orange but the head was gorgeous, heaving and pitting.

Smell – There is a really big heavy duty Abbey Tripel-type of aroma to this bier. It is filled with orange and tangerine juice, along with non-toasted malt, some biscuit, and a serious does of alcohol.

Taste – The circus has come to town. It looks like a cheap pale ale and smells like a novelty beer, but the taste is monstrous. There’s a hint of bock to this one, but mostly it is big orange biscuit flavor. I don’t understand the classification to this style.

Mouthfeel – Very light carbonation and medium in the body, this heavy hitter means business. There is a sharp alcohol sting at the mouth yet this bier is refreshingly smooth.

Drinkability – This went down like Courtney Love at a rock concert. I can’t say that it even remotely resembled the Doppelbock style, but it was awesome nevertheless. I will rate it on its merits.

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Photo of laituegonflable
2.13/5  rDev -40.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 1 | overall: 1.5

Pours a brandy orange-red colour, quite syrupy-looking in the glass. Head needed to be encouraged, and sinks quickly, just a ring around the top. Lacing is pretty decent and sticky. I'm always a bit forgiving of bock-styles for lack of head, is otherwise alright.

Nose is very strong and pongy, with a huge amount of malt, slightly smokey with a strong brandy sourness and a fair whiff of brass. Distinct alcohol, fruit and brown sugar on there. Interesting sweet/sour aroma, can't say I'm a huge fan, but it's unique.

Taste is more of the same at first. Large sweetness on the front with burnt toffee, brown sugar, brandy, some woody notes and hint of marzipan coming through on the mid, then a really strong phenolic solvent character on the finish, with distinct alcohol warmth, nothing overly hot but no real flavour there to hide the booze. A very dour bitterness comprises the finish, really just tastes more like methyl alcohol than anything else. Not unlike cough medicine.

Feel is very syrupy and flat - the resemblance to cough medicine goes beyond the taste. Dreadful, really.

It's amusing that this calls itself the cognac of beers, when it doesn't have nearly the power, complexity or pleasant flavour of a good brandy. All it has is a distinct alcohol finish. Not a pleasant drop, I really have very, very little respect for the Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg, they are all talk and no substance. This is an insult to other doppelbocks.

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Photo of TheLongBeachBum
3.97/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: A rather fancy looking 11,2 fl.oz. bottle. Tall brown glass bottle with the words ‘Schloß Eggenberg’. A regal looking black and gold stretched oval label has the date 1681 and the words ‘Scloss Eggenberg Urbock 23’ on it. Listed at 9,6% Alc.Vol. A thick paper collar terminates flush with the top of the black and gold crown cap.

Appearance: Perfectly lucid glowing gold body. White head that settles to a halo collar with a broken surface. Lively conditioning, such that a swirl will help replace a fading head whilst emitting a rather loud audible fizz whilst doing so.

Nose: Very strong sweet alcoholic aromas, sweet malts and a rather pungent deadly kick that politely reminds you that this one will not go down without a fight.

Taste: More sweet Malts in the beginning, some barley-sugar tastes in the middle with yet more malts returning in the latter third, whilst the finish develops a hop bitter twist to balance those sweet malts. The sweetness is syrupy smooth, almost honey like as the beer finishes; this can tend to give a sticky feel after the beer has been consumed. I noticed that beer tends to ‘build-up’ as you drink it; it is as though it develops a complexity as imbibed.

Mouthfeel: Ever so slightly sticky feel in the mouth after the swallow, whilst in the mouth its feels lighter than you expect for the strength.

Drinkability: Just the one bottle is fine, and more than enough, definitely a night cap brew. Zzzz.

Overall: Enjoyable, I like a big-ass beer once in a while. A really good every “now and again” beer.

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Photo of cokes
4.46/5  rDev +24.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Wow.. this is the trippiest beer I have ever had. A through-the-looking-glass, alternate dimension doppelbock.

Golden, pilsener-like body. Decent bubbly white head.
Somewhat (noble?) hoppy nose, with evident maltiness and some alcohol.

Storms into the mouth with carmel apple maltiness. Switches to solely apple, then to grape. Hops enter at this point to dry out the juiciness. Alcohol is next, which ads some pepper and fire. Finishes wine-like with lingering honey.

Very tasty, very complex and very unique.
Syrup-like in the mouth, but not oppressively heavy. Actually, pretty solid.
Quite a treat.
I am surprised this has been hosed by many other reviews. It has me grinning like Cheshire Cat.

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Photo of blackie
4/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

a: served in what is basically a miniature wine glass, the beer is a light honey-golden in color with a big white head, light retention after the recession

s: sweet pale malt sugars dominate and carry an aroma of baked green apple with a heavy honey sauce, instantly reminiscent of a mead in its honeyed booziness, hops pulpy and herbal/grassy with just a touch of dried lemon peel

m: not quite syrupy, but close, carbonation around medium in level

t: similar in makeup to the aroma, big on the sweet pale grain and honeyed apple flavors, white figs, hops papery and impart a moderate bitterness with some light citrus, appropriately boozy, certainly not to style but I really enjoyed the flavor

d: limited, but a nice sipper

overall: fuck the style constraints, this is much better than a "B" beer in my book, need to pick up a bottle, very nice and quite unique

glass at The Saloon in DC

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Photo of Bierman9
4.05/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The 23 pours a golden color, quite light for a "doppelbock". More akin to a Maibock, imho. Head was not overly thick, less than 1/2" to start, and recedes to a light ring around the glass, with minimal lacing. Aroma seemed to highlight the alcohol. Reminded me somewhat of the kick you pick up from Belzebuth. There's some maltiness there, and spiciness too, but they struggle to reach your nostrils. Bodywise, it tended towards a medium feel, and it was relatively smooth save for a short patch of prickliness on the tongue at the outset. Malty flavors are present, yet the alcohol and the warmth it brings overshadow it. Some aspects of the 23 also remind me of a strong, Belgian pale, with a peppery-like quality to it, yet more like Belzebuth again. The taste lingers a bit on the tongue and down the throat. Part of me wants to like this more than I probably should! I don't know; it's a different beast. Go figure! Prosit!!

overall: 4
appearance: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | mouthfeel: 4 | drinkability: 4

475

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Photo of buschbeer
3.58/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

11,2 Fl. OZ. bottle
Served in a pilsner glass

A - It pours a clear golden color with three fingers of off-white head.

S - It smells like a malt bomb. I get some huge malty sweetness.

T - It is not the sweet mess that I expected. Don't get me wrong, this is all malt, but it is not super sweet as the smell indicates.

M - Medium and smooth.

O - If you do not like hops, you will probably like this beer. Hell, it's almost like an English barleywine.

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Photo of ADZA
3.2/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Well on this bottle they call this the cognac of beers i think ill be the judge of that,it pours a see thru pale amber colour with little carbonation that leaves a fast vanishing head with no lacing just a little ring around the edge,it has a funky apple malty smell to it not too sure what to make of that aroma,it has a thin mouthfeel and tastes kinda like sweet apples infused with alcohol but not a dominant alcohol taste just enough to give you that little bit of warmth that a white port does at the finish so i can maybe see where they are trying to get as saying its the cognac of beers but it still just doesnt get me that excited really,because of the sweetness of this beer drinkability for me isnt the highest but i could see myself drinking this beer as an after desert beer but thats it for me.

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Photo of Brent
2.63/5  rDev -26.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Poured a amber/bronze, much lighter in color than I expected for a doppelbock. Flavor is dominated by a bittersweet, syrupy malt that coats the tongue. Alcohol is quite evident in the flavor profile, adding a pepper that tries to cut through the blanket of sweetness, but fails to make a substantial dent. Heavy and unwieldy.

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Photo of pkalix
3.99/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

pale for sure!!!! poured a . . . . just PALE color . . . . . no topping.
sweet, toasty, malt-y and yummy smell. can this be the same company who does SAMICHLAUS??? I love double bocks...
okay, TOO sweet. kind of nasty. wait. let my taste buds adjust after that triple/IPA 12% I just had. still smells yummy. but the taste is . . . . getting better... I can do this; it's just a shifting of gears from what I just finished. 9.6%, okay . . . . I do love the dopplebocks; they are my favorite. but then hefe used to be my favorite and now i'm just plain tired of the richness. but then (again) I used to like Asian chicks tooo . . . . and . . . . oh well.
okay! palate cleansed with the double bock. still a great smell similar to the other dopples I love, but still a funky, sweet taste that is a little over-powering...
so, in summary, bland, regular appearance. AWESOME smell. AWESOME smell. (again). taste is just... meh.... I can tolerate it for a one time thing-y, ya know. but kind of sweet.
overall, eh... nice abv. i'm buzzed after this and the 12% bomber.... taste is just okay; overall is just okay. note (again) the high marks for SMELL . . . . but this is not what I consider in the same class as a spaten optimator or celebrator or most of the other doppels...

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Photo of PorterLambic
3.63/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear, golden-orange with no head. Not what I was expecting from a dopplebock. Looked like a tripel instead.
Smell is so amazing it almost overwhelmed my nose. Notes of honey, apricot, tangerine, malt and green grapes.
Taste is of honey, malt, apricot, alcohol and grape with a hint of oakiness.
Mouthfeel is smooth and warming with a medium body.
Drinkability: good. The complexity in both smell and taste is good and for the most part, so is the balance. The alcohol is a little overpowering in the taste, however. The only reason I didn't rate this beer higher is because, while I truly enjoy it, it doesn't seem to follow the style. As I said, this looks and tastes like a Belgian tripel, not an Austrian doppelbock.

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Photo of merlin48
4.32/5  rDev +20.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2 oz bottle pours a clear, medium gold that has an ivory head of big bubbles on an aggressive pour. Doesn't look like any doppelbock I've seen before. Aroma is interesting, and deserves high marks. Sweet toffee and caramel quickly transition into molasses, with fruit esters similar to fried apples. Mouthfeel has minimal carbonation, and some hop and alcohol bite. Taste begins with some bready yeastiness, but is soon dominated by a malty, molasses backbone. Several dark fruity flavors linger in the background, but don't fully emerge as they should. Some hoppy bitterness is always around to keep things interesting. Finishes with a caramel aftertaste that is immediately followed by a biiter, herbal hoppiness. This is a very tasty and complex brew, that is a departure from Bavarian doppelbocks due to a unique hops presence. Very enjoyable and pleasantly drinkable.

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Photo of brewdlyhooked13
3.27/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 2

Fairly standard yellow beer color, albeit a bit hazy. Has kind of a skunky nose at first, not heavy, but I am kind of sensitive to the smell. It subsided after a minute, however, along with the short-lived half-inch head that started out so white and bubbly. There is also a slight sweet smell which does not give away the secret of how the beer will taste.

I know this is high alcohol, but geez, that first sip is a blast! Heavy and sweet, very prominent in your face alcohol flavor, mixing with sweet maltiness. Some nuttiness residual comes through as the alcohol and sugar burn clear out a bit, and baby it do burn some.

Fruity alcoholic aftertaste, like a medium-bodied semisweet wine. The low drinkability lowers what would be a reasonably good beverage. If I didn't know better, I'd think I was drinking malt liquor. Potent stuff campers.

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Photo of yemenmocha
4.7/5  rDev +31.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pours honey golden with thin white head. Nose is beautiful & delicate with honey, maybe honeydew, and faint malt. A leap of malt comes forward on the palate, with honey, and a luxurious malt component. Viscous body is amazing, and the beer has a hard to describe "hearty" character that is so lovable in bocks.

Fine example, though I think it is more of a Helles bock than a traditional doppel.

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Urbock 23° from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
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