Samichlaus Bier Helles | Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
Austria
schloss-eggenberg.at

Style: Maibock / Helles Bock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 14.00%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by mikesgroove on 11-25-2007

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419
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242
Avg:
3.77
pDev:
15.38%
 
 
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Photo of jaydoc
4/5  rDev +6.1%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.94/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle pour at the bottle share held at Chloe's inside Golden Road Brewing in Los Angeles, CA.

2007 vintage.

Pours a hazy orange with a foamy tan head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Tiny chunks of sediment are seen floating around in the beer after the pour. Smell is of malt, caramel, toffee, fruit, and alcohol aromas. Taste is much the same with fruit and toffee flavors on the finish. There is a decent alcohol kick with each sip as well. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp but sticky mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer that is super tasty but quite boozy and strong.

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Photo of GRG1313
3.5/5  rDev -7.2%

Photo of spycow
3.75/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of Knapp85
3.1/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This has a pretty surprising color for a Doppelbock, This beer has a very nice honey golden color with a head that fades rather quickley. The 14% abv is hardly hidden in my opinion. It's a strong tasting beer, as it should be I just don't know how much I enjoy the flavors the Helles gives off. The mouthfeel of this is on the thicker side. Nothing too heavy but not watery either. Personally i like the darker version much better but thats in the eye of the beholder.

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Photo of t0rin0
4.25/5  rDev +12.7%

Photo of oriolesfan4
4.25/5  rDev +12.7%

Photo of BEERchitect
3.85/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A subtle twist on the standard Samichlaus with a lighter color, and more finess in the malts, but with a lot of fruity character comming throughout. A standard pilsner-straw color comes through with light carbonation and with only a trace of head formation and retention. Aromas are strong of pilsner malt, honey, and zinfindale. No real sulfers or corn flavors, so pretty clean upfront, just a lot more estery than expected from a lager. Flavors jump on the peach, pear, mango, appricot, papaya flavors and wonder into a mead-like / zinfindale acidity and alcohols. An herbal hop flavor is noticed in the aftertaste and provides low-lying bitterness. Very syrupy and viscously textured while warming the mouth into numbness. Light on fusals. Finishes with a long, sweet linger of fruitiness, sugars, and herbal tea.

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Photo of brentk56
4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 bottling

Appearance: Pours a clear amber color with a modest cap that leaves a web of lace

Smell: Caramel and rum-soaked figs; rather boozy aroma

Taste: Caramel and fig, with a building alcohol flavor developing by mid-palate; sweet and fruity in the finish

Mouthfeel: Full-bodied with low to moderate carbonation; plenty of warmth in the gullet

Overall: Really rather sweet but I enjoyed the flavor profile

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Photo of zeff80
2.92/5  rDev -22.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

A - Poured out a clear, golden-orange color with little to no head. No lacing either.

S - It smelled of sweet honey, caramel and sugar with a boozy nose, too.

T - Very, very sweet. Over the top sweet with boozy taste.

M - One of the better qualities of this brew. It was crisp and sharp. A medium-bodied beer.

D - To me this beer is just over done. Too much alcohol, too much sweetness without any hop character.

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Photo of WillieThreebiers
3.85/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of zestar
3.5/5  rDev -7.2%

Photo of superspak
4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle into signature tulip glass, bottled in 2012. Pours fairly crystal clear golden orange color with a 1 finger fairly dense off white head with solid retention, that reduces to a ring of lace. Minimal lacing on the glass, with some light streaming carbonation. Aromas of big caramel, honey, brown sugar, golden raisin, plum, fig, cherry, apple, lightly toasted bread, herbal, grass, and yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast ester, and light earthy hop notes; with great strength. Taste big of caramel, honey, brown sugar, golden raisin, plum, fig, cherry, apple, lightly toasted bread, herbal, grass, light pepper, and yeast/toasted earthiness. Slight earthy bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of caramel, honey, brown sugar, golden raisin, plum, fig, cherry, apple, lightly toasted bread, herbal, grass, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a while. Damn nice complexity and robustness of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast ester, and light earthy hop flavors; with a great malt/yeast balance and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Light carbonation and fairly full bodied; with a smooth and fairly slick/syrupy mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is well hidden with only a small-moderate warming after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice Helles doppelbock style. All around great complexity and balance of dark/bready malt, fruity yeast ester, and light earthy hop flavors; and very smooth to sip on slowly for the huge ABV. A very enjoyable offering.

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3/5  rDev -20.4%

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.35/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Even a rough pour will bring up only a diminutive head on Samiclaus Helles. That's understandable in that it's 14% alcohol, but surely the extra body should make up for it. Not the case. It's amber body appears deeper, almost copperish, in the glass, but when held to the light it reveals sparkling golden highlights. A fair amount of very tiny bubbles climb steadily upward, indicating that there's a fair amount of carbonation to it; and what delicate cottony head was initially formed benefits from it. Alas, it fades quickly, and beyond that only tiny spots of lacing are left about the glass.

The aroma is clean and malty. It's mainly grainy, but there's also a hint of fruitiness in its sweetness.

In the mouth it's full bodied, but not over-done, and silky smooth - far from syrupy... of course, the alcohol is helping to cut the sugars as well. The delicate carbonation is just enough to lend a gentle caress to the palate.

The flavor is, not surprisingly, very rich. Also, probably not surprisingly, it's not really that complex. This is the blonde version, so of course it's going to be more straightforward in character. It offers a healthy dose of grainy malt, a flicker of hot alcohol (but not too much), and a moderately fruity sweetness in the finish. There are some hops present as well, but they can't compete with the (almost candyish) sweetish malt up-front, and tend to make themselves known only across the middle and into the finish. They're herbal, and mildly spicy (or is that the alcohol that's spicy?).

Overall, it's remarkably well done. The alcohol is kept in check, and it's balanced. The flavor is rich and satiating, but not cloying. (This is truly "liquid bread"). The appearance is great, but the head could be much better; and the aroma is right on. Worth trying! I could even see using this as a cordial at a Christmas dinner. Very nice.

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Photo of oberon
3.63/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Had this as a night cap last night and man did it help me sleep easy.Poured into a pokal a full rich clear golden with a minimal head wich was to be expected,whoo the sweet alcohol really hits in the nose with some caramel and grain but the alcohol shows itself in a huge way.A full bodied sweeter sipping brew,it has a big caramel and fruit flavor with sweet burning alcohol showing thru more as it warmed,in the finish a passing vegetal note comes thru.A decent brew but its made to be drank slow and easy.

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Photo of ygtbsm94
3/5  rDev -20.4%

Photo of Ciocanelu
3.5/5  rDev -7.2%

Photo of smithj4
4.2/5  rDev +11.4%

Photo of dcmchew
3.9/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

bottled in 2012;
Pours light brown to red, like cranberry juice, with low head and fizz, no retention.
Smells of really sweet dark fruit, apricot, burnt sugar, licorice and booze.
Taste is extremely sweet, with cloying syrups, but not totally unbereable. Huge caramel, spiced with licorice and candi sugar, and hints of honey also. Dark fruitiness mostly (cherries, strawberries, plums) with hints of ripe apricot and peach, also a slight citrus crispness, nicely fighting the sweetness. Malts are quite pale, biscuity, a tiny bit toasted. Sweetness covers the spices, leaving just hints of vanilla and faint anise and minty sage. Alcohol is hidden, no, actually covered, by the big sweetness, so it's not extremely boozy for the very high abv. Hops provide the mildly bitter finish, bu the aftertaste consists mostly of the cloying sugar and booze.
After a while the entire head and lacing disappears, weird, but there's still a little fizz. Watery and sweet, like a fruit syrup drink.
Don't know what to say about it exactly, probably should have tried an older vintage, pretty sure it would have been way better. Will buy one to set aside for a while.

Tried it again in 2016, more fruity, smoother alcohols, bumped it to 3.9 from 3.7.

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Photo of russpowell
4.16/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I sat on this one a few months to cellar, but now I can't wait any more! Here goes:

Pours a noisy & effervescent golden honey with 2 fingers of beige head. No head & a bit of lacing

S: Fruitty & bready & clean booze & fussell alcohol, slight smokeyness

T: Some honey, dates, apricot & nice breadyness up front. More honey, grainyness, pineapple & passion fruit all show as this warms. Finishes with loads of honey, tropical fruit,& booze

MF: Chewy with vigirous carbonation, a little too much, some syruppy notes, great warming sensations, reminds me of a young mead in many respects

Drinkability is fantastic for the ABV & pretty good for the style, nice digestive/nightcap dopple, not one to trifle with or to attempt to session on! Next time I see it I will buy more & hide them from myself & see how the aging improves or doesn't this fine dopple

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.21/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a clear, honey-colored body with a tiny white head.

Smell: Sweetish, candylike aroma with notes of peach schnapps, sugar-coated matls, and booze.

Taste: Sugary sweet malts with a taste of dark fruits soaked in alcohol. The beer gives you a sly wink then pours some grain alcohol down your gullet. Slight peppery hint. Sweetness of the finish doesn't disguise its harshness.

Mouthfeel: Medium-bodied. Medium carbonation. Slight stickiness.

Drinkability: Many of these high ABV beers are a joy to drink and deftly hide their alchol amidst a truly succulent taste. The Samichlaus Helles is neither of those! As with its darker brother, hopefully some time locked away will bring some sense to it.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.13/5  rDev -17%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

"The World's Most Extraordinary Beverage."

--label

Bottled in 2007 (the first since 1986). Radiant tangerine with barely one finger of ivory colored cream created on the high-altitude pour. Guess we can blame the high ABV and the lack of hop resins for the diminutive crown... that is now nearly gone. Needless to day, no lace is seen on the snifter.

The nose makes almost no impact. At least not of a positive nature. Each sniff delivers very lightly toasted pale grains with a surprisingly subtle contribution from ethanol. Not sure what the flavor hook is going to be.

Samichlaus Helles tastes like a higher-quality malt liquor. In fact, is says 'malt liquor' right there on the label. Yeah, probably just some government regulation or some such. It's definitely sweet and the alcohol is buried better than expected.

As feared, there isn't much here to get excited about from a flavor standpoint. Tons of dark malts (big stouts) and tons of hops (IPAs) are right in my wheelhouse, but tons of pale malt has never really done it for me. Specifics include rock candy, lightly toasted bread soaked in sugar syrup, and a splash of honey (mead-like). Simple as a stone.

The mouthfeel finds that sweet-spot between big enough and not too big. It's fullish and lush without being ponderous, and the bubbles are finely spritzy... which works because they're softened by all the malt sugars.

Samichlaus Helles, in my humble opinion, is light years away from being the world's most extraordinary beverage. It's a decent sipper if you're into high-octane beer, but that's where it ends. I'm okay if Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg wants to wait another 21 years between bottlings.

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Photo of paulish
4/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of woodychandler
4.67/5  rDev +23.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

I remember when Samichlaus was the strongest beer available. I was an early US Navy retiree & a transfer sophomore at Pitt, living at the Centre Plaza Apartments, further from campus than I liked, but close to the Sharp Edge Beer Emporium in (ahem) Shadyside, really, Slibberty. Friday nights, I would take a seat at the left end of the bar, just inside the door, now reconfigured, and be joined by two other regulars. We would routinely split the bigger, more expensive bottles just so that we could say that we tried that beer. Samiclhlaus night saw me nearly freeze to death on the way home! Let us see if I fare any better today.

From the bottle: "The World's Most Extraordinary Beverage"; "Bottled in 2015"; "Samichlaus (R) is brewed only once a year on December 6, and is aged for 10 months before bottling. It is one of the rarest specialties in the world. Samichlaus (R) may be aged in the bottle for many years to come, as older vintages become more complex. Brilliant deep amber, complex dry toasted malt nose and huge intensely sweet palate."

Helles, who needs drugs?!? No, really, who needs drugs? I'm holding! F'rilz, though, this is clearly no playing around. I carefully tore off the scored part of the neck label to expose the cap & carefully prised that off & open. I am taking this one very seriously & slowly, so a gentle pour was in the offing. Once a sufficient amount had been decanted into the glass, I gave it an aggressive swirl, raising a VERY brief finger of foamy, tawny head that could not wait to fall back to wisps. Color was Amber to Deep Amber/Light Copper (SRM = > 9, < 13) with NE-quality clarity.

Nose smelled EXACTLY like freshly-kneaded bread dough on the rise! I took Foods in HomeEc as a teenager & I loved baking. In fact, I was thinking of going to the Culinary Institute of America before I got sidetracked & went into the Navy, instead. I still like to bake more than any other type of cooking, so I know the smell well. I took just a small sip on my tongue and first sat bolt upright & then slumped down in my chair as the immensity of this beer hit me! Jeez-O, man. The fusel alcohol heat was enormous on my tongue, burning away all of those weak, dead, unsuspecting taste buds that had been lingering around since the last purge. Phew! My fellow monks used to refer to Hellesbocks/Doppelbocks as 'liquid bread" since one glass of this before sunrise would hold them over until after sunset during the fasting within the period of the Lenten season. I am less formal in my adherence, but I can see how this would get you where you are going & in one quick hurry! Wow!

There was an inherent honey-like sweetness from the malt that just intensified the breadiness, reminding me of my late-maternal grandmother's biscuits with honey, especially in the summer. She was the one who initially turned me onto baking & we became a pretty good team, with her oven churning out everything from breads, biscuits & cookies to casseroles & soufflés. I know that some of it was new & foreign to her, but man, did we cook! I never mastered her prowess with Pot Roast & I prefer to do mine in a crock pot, but her recipe for meat loaf was spot on. I realize that I digress, but I am trying to kill some time with this beer as drinking it quickly would be a mistake.

Warming, the beer took on a thick, heavy mouthfeel so that each draught felt like a dollop of honey on my tongue. Or a drizzle. Maybe I should decant some into a bottle & let it drip into my mouth. Maybe I can talk Mayor Brie McCheese into doing this on her next visit. Jee-zus! If dynamite comes in small packages, then this must be C-4 in 11.2 fl. oz. form! It is a good thing that I do this for a living. This beer begs for an accompaniment, perhaps sharp cheese or cured meats or both. Warming, it takes on a slight perfumey/flowery aspect, like violets, especially in the summer. It has twice evoked summer, so if I ever get another bottle, I may save it for that season. Finish had a heat that I imagine would smooth over, given sufficient time in the bottle. My bottle was over a year old, hence my thinking that it was ready for consumption. Mais non! This could have easily gone another two years. Mmm. My lips are sticky, my mind is whacky & this review needs to be put in the books.

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Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
3.77 out of 5 based on 419 ratings.
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