Samichlaus Bier Helles | Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
Austria
schloss-eggenberg.at

Style: Maibock / Helles Bock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 14.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by mikesgroove on 11-25-2007

BEER STATS
Ratings:
418
Reviews:
242
Avg:
3.77
pDev:
15.38%
 
 
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29
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64
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Photo of mdfb79
3.1/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a pint glass. Bottled in 2007.

a - Pours a murky orangish/amber color with low carbonation and about a half inch of white head that quickly leaves.

s - Smells of sweet, dark fruits including plums, raisins, and maybe cherries. Also some oak, malts, and booze, although not as much as I was expecting considering it is 14% ABV.

t - Dark fruits, booze, malts, some spices, and maybe a tiny bit of chocolate even. The alcohol was a lot more prominent in the taste than it was in the nose.

m - Medium body with low carbonation. Some alcohol warmth, but not as much as you'd think considering it's 14% ABV.

d - Middle of the road for me. I enojoyed the smell more than the taste, as the alcohol came out a little too much in the taste and feel to me. I have one bottle left that is in my cellar that I plan on holding onto for a few years to see what happens, but right now I wouldn't look to drink it again.

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Photo of BeerForMuscle
4.25/5  rDev +12.7%

Photo of ejimhof
4.25/5  rDev +12.7%

Photo of JAHMUR
4/5  rDev +6.1%

Photo of smakawhat
4.3/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 1 pt. 9 fl oz. bottle into a Libbey style pilsner glass. Vintage 2012 marked on the bottle.

Light bodied amber, hints of copper and orange with a bit of chestnut brown, quite light in appearance than most doppels. Great and nice even streams of carbonation rising in the middle and on the edges. Head is very fleeting, tan in color, but with hardly and retention. Dissolves normally but leaves a finer lighter and whiter colored collar while sitting.

Real exquisite nose. Was concerned about heat and booze but it's anything but. Large toffee and gooey caramel thickness aromas, spicy clove and nutmeg with hints of light butterscotch to go with it. Smells like a sundae real inviting, and just a bit warm but not overly so.

Palate is really not what I expected. Huge amounts of sweetness, I am talking very sweet but at least tolerable. Fruity action of plum, raisin, even some cherry mixing with light toffee. Surprisingly not thick in the palate or syrupy as the nose might want to indicate. Finishes incredibly clean and soft malt caramel, almost like a nice glaze. So well hidden abv and not the slightest bit boozy.

This is a surprisingly well created brew that is just so well in control and complex. Not everyones cup a tea but this is extremely impressive beer.

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Photo of jwc215
3.43/5  rDev -9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2007 vintage:

Pours golden with a thin head that becomes a patch - decent head retention for the abv.

The smell is of sweet grain, alcohol and some fruitiness.

The taste is of sweet grain - Helles-style, boozy alcohol, grapey and some caramel. Finishes sweet.

Syrupy, though not too sticky.

A slow, slow sipper. A bit raw, maybe aging would mellow the sharpness of it. Interesting to a degree, though not in a complex way. I didn't enjoy this as much as the other Samichlaus.

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Photo of Lare453
3.5/5  rDev -7.2%

Photo of feloniousmonk
4.25/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I didn't even know this existed, until I saw someone order it at the bar I'm marooned at while the rain pours down. So, here I go, a drinkin'...

Clear amber color, smallish white head, stick around a bit...

Aroma: clean and lightly fruity, peach and apple, apricot and herbs...

Drink it already!....Boom! Big fat malt, huge fruity flavor, little hops, nothing but enormous malt and alcohol. Slick, sweet, clean. Yum. Light bodied, lean, sweet, malty lager....way over-sized booze. Incredible, formidable, intense. Burning fruit roasts the palate, clean and mean, ...yum, and hot! yum, and fierce! yum, and POW!

Mmmm, all 14 % blonde doppelbocks should be this good!

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Photo of Dicers
3.5/5  rDev -7.2%

Photo of GClarkage
4.33/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

10/23/08- Purchased at Ledger's in Berkeley, CA.

Presentation- 11.2oz bottle, bottled in 2007. Poured into my Trois Pistoles goblet.

Appearance- Lighter copper in color. Pours with a 3/4 inch light foamy head on a hard pour, which soon fades to a very slight rim. Leaves light spotty lace.

Smell- Kinda has a good smell and an odd smell at the same time. Not really outgoing with sugary caramel notes and a wet dog fur nose.

Taste- Very rich and caramely. No real hops involved, but lots and lots of smooth roasted caramel malts. Maybe a slash of orange liquor like flavor as well. Drambuie?

Mouthfeel- Very smooth with a medium to slight lower carbonation level. Warming with a full mouthfeel.

Drinkability- Alcohol is nicely hidden in this one. Really hard to keep from chugging this rather than sipping. Super easy to drink. Will have again in the future. $4.99 price tag.

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Photo of Gonzoillini
2.5/5  rDev -33.7%

Photo of Wasatch
4.5/5  rDev +19.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to Hojaminbag for this brew.

11.2 oz. Bottle
Bottled In: 2007

Pours a very nice clean/clear golden color, very nice carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, with some nice sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, sweet, nice little spice note, and caramel. The taste is sweet, malty, alittle spicy, with some nice caramel notes. Medium Body. Very Drinkable, this one is very tasty, a true delight. Thanks Ben.

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Photo of Gavage
3.89/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Appearance: clear orange in color with a 1/2" head that falls to a spotty surface foam. A few carbonatin bubbles slowly rise fro the bottom of the glass.

Smell: sweet fruits and honey are easily detectable. Alcohol is mildly noticeable.

Taste: big malt base with caramel, honey, green grapes, and pears provide the sweetness and there is a mild bitterness that tries to balance it out. Alcohol is strong and imparts a strong warming feeling.

Mouthfeel: medium-heavy in body. Syrupy and smooth throughout. Super long aftertaste as the sweetness and alcohol seem to last for minutes after swallowing.

Drinkability: a malty high alcohol beer that is a very slow sipper. One is enough in any session.

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Photo of drabmuh
3.88/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Received through a trade with ironbike1. Bottled in 2007. Poured from a bottle into a Samichlaus Bier glass (I'm a glassware bad ass, don't you love the correct glass?). Beer is light amber in color, head forms quickly and disappears just as quickly, leaving nothing behind. No head, no lacing, nothing. Carbonation is mild to weak, this is expected though. Bubbles form around the lower bowl of the glass, beer is clear, completely clear.

Aroma is a little off putting unfortunately. Initially there was a sulfur flavor to it. This is quickly replaced with some alcohol / sweetness and some malt character. The aroma overall is not strong. Time to drink.

Sweet, strong. Wow, this beer actually made me cough when I sipped it. Probably not a good sign. Second taste was considerably better. Much more pronounced sweetness, some raisin like character, great malt body. Mouthfeel is good, not thin at all like you might expect with a 14% beer. Not dry like you might expect with a 14% beer. Just a great full body and high drinkability. This beer seems lighter than the other Samichlaus doppelbock I've previously reviewed and am currently aging. A great rarity for me.

I imagine this beer would age well, removed the warmth from the front end and mellow out the solvency of the flavors. This is a relatively young for a Sami.

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Photo of Rochefort10nh
4/5  rDev +6.1%

Photo of stevoj
3.94/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A lighter (?) version of their classic,with an amber body but all the kick of the sweet malt. ABV not really noticeable. Creamy head, nice lacing. Sweet malt aroma and taste., also on the finish. Alcohol sneaks up on you at the end.

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Photo of tempest
2.95/5  rDev -21.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Bottled 2007

Looks a clear gold, without much head retention. The aroma is of white grape and sweet, bready malt. The flavor and mouthfeel is rough to say the least. There's a strong, dry alcohol flavor, in line with watered-down vodka. The malt just comes off like a very concentrated light lager with caramel malt ad a touch of grassy hops. It's not all-out offensive, but I won't be finishing this one. I'll return to this one after I let a bottle mellow for a year or two.

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Photo of afsdan
4/5  rDev +6.1%

Photo of DoubleJ
4.06/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

It's hard to beleive that the last year this beer was available, I was in diapers. Distinctive red labeling allows this beer to stand out on shelves better, and one I've been wanting to try after enjoying its darker sibling. On to the beer:

The body is deep filtered gold, topped by a short head that goes away quickly. There's some pale malt and lightly perceived alcohol in the nose, surprisingly light on the nose given its strength. It also tasted lighter than expected too, but wow, 14% ABV has never been so easy to drink! Sugary sweet with intense vanilla, doses of pale malts, and alcohol. Not as complex as one might hope, but the brewers did an excellent job mixing the alcohol into the overal flavor. Mouthfeel is smooth and moderate, "lightly syurpy", and not over the top.

While it isn't as interesting as the darker stuff, this bright beer is a lethal alcohol delivery system thanks to its incredible drinkability. Treat this bottle with respect and enjoy!

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Photo of tobelerone
3/5  rDev -20.4%

Photo of Georgiabeer
3.97/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours golden with very little head. What head there is fades to nothing very quickly. Very malty aroma, quite honeyed and bready. Quite sweet with some definite heat and some lingering spicy bitterness on the finish. Up front it is quite smooth abd honeyed, a bit like nougat. Very smooth, but a bit hot in the mouth. This is fairly pleasant, but I find it a bit more one dimensional than the regular Samichlaus.

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Photo of NickThePyro
3.75/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.48/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

2007 Bottle Date; Sampled August 2008
A vigorous pour yields a fat, one-finger thick, pale tan colored head. The beer is quite clear with an amber hue, but shows a brilliantly clear, rich gold color when held up to the light. Quite sweet and concentrated smelling with complex, rich, though obviously pale, malt aromas that just seeps from the pores of this beer. Concentrated golden raisin notes (without being fruity though), some notes that are similar to an ice-wine, almost a toffee not but cleaner somehow, something that is a touch metallic or perhaps calcium like and some rich, slightly grassy, toasty, pale grain notes. At this point the aroma is a touch simplistic, though certainly not bad; like the regular version this really seems to need a couple years to come in to its own.

Thick and somewhat creamy feeling up front, a persistent carbonation that, while light, adds a touch of fizziness to the middle of each sip is also noticeable. That distinct, concentrated golden raisin, without being fruity note is also here in the flavor and plays a significant role. Quite sweet tasting, it could actually use some richness, though this last will likely come with a couple years of age. A touch of herbal hoppiness in the finish is noticeable, though it is quite muted compared to the malt and there is only a perceived, light hop bitterness in this finish. Some hot alcohol notes provide a bit of spiciness and a touch of warming; this last lingers as the beer slides down my throat and even warms its way down through to my belly. While rich and certainly a sipping brew this is actually not as cloying as I thought it would be.

Like the regular Samichlaus, this is definitely a bit green / hot when young. This should age quite well, and really won't be drinkable for at least two or three years if not five.

Purchased: Plaza Liquors, Tucson AZ

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Photo of John_M
3.55/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

On tap at Max's the other day.

The beer pours a bright gold color with minimal head retention and lacing. Don't get a lot on tbe nose either, though there is a hint of sweet malt and spice. On the palate this beer is VERY sweet, but with some interesting cherry, honey and vanilla. Coupled with the high alcohol, the sweetness makes this beer a bit cloying and heavy. Drinkability is where this beer really suffers, though I was able to finish the glass given enough time.

An interesting beer, though I'm not sure I'd want to order it again. The combination of sweetness and high alcohol is just too much, and make this a difficult beer to drink.

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Photo of JohnGalt1
3.4/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Just had the regular Samichlaus while working on stuff for tomorrow... The Helles seems like a natural follower. I've never had this before despite buying them for the cellar... This is an '07.

My Delirium goblet is glowing clear orange.. the head was pretty much nonexistent...

Nose is pretty boozy with thick and sweet pale malt.... sugar cookies... hints of fruitiness... lite white peaches.

Flavor has all the aromas with an encompassing golden raisin essence.. some honey notes.. thick and malty... there could be some spicy hoppiness that is wrecked by the booze... like some grappa was thrown into some peach juice honey water concoction... almost like somebody boiled down a maibock and spiked it with yeast.

The body and carbonation are the same as the regular Sami... but overall, this is turning into a chore... the drinkability is lost on the fact that it is very one dimensional..

The bad thing is, despite my review, I will continue to pick these up time to time, just so I can let them age.. but I am sure they will get no better (stoopid stoopid beer hoarder mentality).... I'm not dum... I'm a kollektor.

3.5/3.5/3.5/3.5/3

Edit: looking at other reviews, I get no "caramel" or toffee.. instead, it is just a verging on cloying pale maltiness.

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Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
3.77 out of 5 based on 418 ratings.
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