Samichlaus Bier Helles | Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
Austria
schloss-eggenberg.at

Style: Maibock / Helles Bock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 14.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by mikesgroove on 11-25-2007

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417
Reviews:
241
Avg:
3.77
pDev:
15.38%
 
 
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Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.6/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I've had the dark Samichlaus sitting at home in Sydney for a while, but it is yet to be reviewed. I would have liked to have tried it first, but I picked up the Helles in San Francisco and it didn't make the cut to come back in my luggage.

Hence, I'll drink it now.

Pours a hot and still devilish orange colour, with bubbling only because I forced a very aggressive pour. After these fizzle out it sits entirely flat and dormant in the glass. Looks very dangerous.

Nose is malty and sweet, with a twang of chemical acetone and a boozy note like brandy-soaked dried fruit. Smells extremely spiritous, heavy and malevolent. I think this will be a challenge to my bruised palate.

Taste is surprisingly supple and smooth, and doesn't have the spiritous alcohol burn I feared. Instead, it's just incredibly sweet and heavy, with the alcoholic flavour providing the balance in what other styles would be given by hop bitterness. Very port-like, smooth front, big vinous sweetness and a flick of booze in the tail.

Feel is very smooth and coating, but surprisingly slick as well.

Still, this is a beer of which it is difficult to drink more than a very small glass. Even without the potential burn, it's incredibly heavy and potent.

Yes, it's something I'm glad I tried, and I'll look forward to comparing it to the original Samichlaus—but I'm pleased the experience is over.

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Photo of bobhits
2.02/5  rDev -46.4%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 1 | overall: 2

Pours a lighter reddish color. At first I think it could be another amazingly clear beer, but this is cloudy and has some floaters, good thing considering this is a 2007 bottle. There was a very cheap white head that vanished in moments.

The hop profile here is a bit….bad for the malt mix. It just starts off sour and wrong. A bit of air and the malt takes back control and the hops are long gone. Still redish off putting smell. Earthy hops and cheap pale malts. With some air on it a bit better, still a sweet mess of aromas and alcohol with an odd hop finish i don't like.

This is a new type of beer to me. Not the English barely wine I’ve had and yet doesn’t really come off as say an imperial pale. Alcohol earthy and sharp hops and a bland as the world could be malt. I like (forget who said this) but the comment about this being like rock candy in the malt. It’s sweet, it isn’t really sugar cane clean, but darn rock candy is about as close as you can get.

Thick, a touch of carbonation, and even at over 3 years of age still alcohol dominate.

This bottle was about 5 dollars. I cannot express how over priced that is given this beers qualities. The classic Samichlaus has many qualities that make me certain age will improve it. It has some darn nice effects. This is just alcohol and sweetness to say “look how big I am.” The reason this beer was last brewed and bottled in the 80’s is because there wasn’t anyone begging for more.

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Photo of Knapp85
3.1/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This has a pretty surprising color for a Doppelbock, This beer has a very nice honey golden color with a head that fades rather quickley. The 14% abv is hardly hidden in my opinion. It's a strong tasting beer, as it should be I just don't know how much I enjoy the flavors the Helles gives off. The mouthfeel of this is on the thicker side. Nothing too heavy but not watery either. Personally i like the darker version much better but thats in the eye of the beholder.

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Photo of AmericanGothic
4.35/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

11.2 oz bottle poured into Unibroue tulip. 2007 vintage.

A Beautiful light amber honey color. Lively carbonation, two finger off-white head subsides slowly. Barely any lace.

S: Mellow yeasty bread notes, sweet, dark fruits.

T: Oh, wow. Is this beer, or port? Fantastic sweetness balanced by fruits (raisins, prunes, a little banana and currants) and some accompanying spice-- cinnamon and clove. Delicious, light caramel. Alcohol present but not objectionable.

M: Just enough carbonation to remind you this is truly beer, medium body, smooth, slightly oily.

D: A slow sipper for sure, no hurry to go through this, will last a while.

An old friend raves and raves about this, so I had to try it. Good recommendation, for my tastebuds. Intense, but refined. If you want to know what beer tastes like 5,000 feet above barleywine, this is it.

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Photo of Wasatch
4.5/5  rDev +19.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to Hojaminbag for this brew.

11.2 oz. Bottle
Bottled In: 2007

Pours a very nice clean/clear golden color, very nice carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, with some nice sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, sweet, nice little spice note, and caramel. The taste is sweet, malty, alittle spicy, with some nice caramel notes. Medium Body. Very Drinkable, this one is very tasty, a true delight. Thanks Ben.

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Photo of plfahey
3.31/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle poured into a tulip glass.

Appearance-Medium gold color, brilliant clarity. Very thin off-white head with low retention. Shows some legs.

Aroma-Pale, bready malts. Very light dried fruit (raisins) aroma and whiff of alcohol.

Flavor-Rich malt and fruit flavors-sweet up front with notes of bread and toast. Raisins, plums, and other fruit flavors definitely present. Alcohol presence is large, and is at times hot/solventy.

Mouthfeel-Medium full, moderately low carbonation. Definite alcohol warmth.

This one might smooth out after a couple years, but fresh, the alcohol is just too hot. Boozy, and not very sneaky about it. There are some good notes, but the alcohol is too much.

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Photo of bonkers
3.23/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I poured from a 11.2 ounce bottle, 2009, into a snifter. The color is medium caramel with a fizzy 1 inch white head, no lacing. The aroma is sweet with lots of astringent alcohol. This beer is very sweet and has very hot alcohol, kinda out of balance. It finishes with dates and raisins. The body is medium and the carbonation is good. IMO this is a mess, too much alcohol, very overpowering. Maybe lay it down for a year, but I will not buy it again.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.13/5  rDev -17%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

"The World's Most Extraordinary Beverage."

--label

Bottled in 2007 (the first since 1986). Radiant tangerine with barely one finger of ivory colored cream created on the high-altitude pour. Guess we can blame the high ABV and the lack of hop resins for the diminutive crown... that is now nearly gone. Needless to day, no lace is seen on the snifter.

The nose makes almost no impact. At least not of a positive nature. Each sniff delivers very lightly toasted pale grains with a surprisingly subtle contribution from ethanol. Not sure what the flavor hook is going to be.

Samichlaus Helles tastes like a higher-quality malt liquor. In fact, is says 'malt liquor' right there on the label. Yeah, probably just some government regulation or some such. It's definitely sweet and the alcohol is buried better than expected.

As feared, there isn't much here to get excited about from a flavor standpoint. Tons of dark malts (big stouts) and tons of hops (IPAs) are right in my wheelhouse, but tons of pale malt has never really done it for me. Specifics include rock candy, lightly toasted bread soaked in sugar syrup, and a splash of honey (mead-like). Simple as a stone.

The mouthfeel finds that sweet-spot between big enough and not too big. It's fullish and lush without being ponderous, and the bubbles are finely spritzy... which works because they're softened by all the malt sugars.

Samichlaus Helles, in my humble opinion, is light years away from being the world's most extraordinary beverage. It's a decent sipper if you're into high-octane beer, but that's where it ends. I'm okay if Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg wants to wait another 21 years between bottlings.

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Photo of cindyjeffsmith
4.52/5  rDev +19.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2007 Vintage
appearance: Similar to the 08' Samichlaus. Light copper with a very slight head. Decent lacing though.
smell: Yum. More butter and spicy goodness.
taste: Not quite up to the bottle of 08' I had a few weeks back but quite de-lish make no mistake. Toffee and light spice.
drinkability: Amazed at how smooth this monster is.

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Photo of dstc
4.3/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a beautiful, deep copper color. Off-white head falls to nothing. Thinnest if lace.

Aroma is all malt and very sweet. Alcohol comes through as well.

Taste mimics the aroma with heavy malts and big sweetness. No real hops to be found. Boozy and sweet in the finish.

Medium to full bodied mouthfeel with low carbonation and a warming alcohol bite.

Wow, great malt bomb. This stuff is very nice. Try it.

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Photo of roblowther
2.88/5  rDev -23.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2

Helles or doppelbock? I'm confused but I'm ok with that. Pours golden amber, clear and bubbly, with a head that quickly settles into a thin off-white covering. Smells like candied oranges, caramel, and a slight nuttiness. It smells good but like it may be too sweet. Let's find out. WOW! That is sweet. This could probably give diabetics a contact high. There is a woodiness, and then sweet. A hint of pepper, then just sugar syrup. Mouthfeel is syrupy with nice carbonation. Drinkability is just going to depend on you. Do you like your pancakes to be nothing but large sediment in a vat of light corn syrup? Then you're good. For me, not so much. It's like Jane Austen's "Persuasion". You want to experience all the legend has to offer, and now you have so you don't have to drink, er read, it again.

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Photo of Rayek
3.2/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

From a 2007 vintage bottle poured into a snifter.

A: Garnet tinged amber with a big, yet short lived eggshell cap. The head recedes to a ring at the beer's edge and leaves no lace.

S: Sweet and boozy. Brown sugar, caramel and toffee do most of the aroma work. A hefty dose of alcohol provides balance to the sweet and a powerful tingle to the nostrils.

T: Extremely sweet out of the gate. Brown sugar and toffee dominate. Bitterness is minimal and has just a bit of pepper to it. Alcohol adds a ton of heat and helps balance the sweet flavors. The brown sugar lingers through the finish. The beer ends very hot.

M: The medium-heavy body is super syrupy and has light carbonation.

D: Um....yeah. This beer is too over the top for its own good. The extreme alcohol heat and cloying sweetness make this beer a night cap at best.

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Photo of bruachan
4.1/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

foam started off well but didn't stand a chance. excellent copper hue

highly concentrated sweetishraisin aromas and a good alcohol push. surprisingly delicate hop nose

certainly tastes hot...but 14% hot? not really (well...11%-12%). more malt flavors from the raisin part of the spectrum. concentrated lager malts produce a wealth of tasty sugars, not the cool nutty flavors you look might for in a bock but hot 'n fruity. i sense toasty as the drink progresses. unkahaul puts some air under the hops' wings

it's been a long time since i tasted the "dunkel" version, but i would love to taste them side by side

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Photo of DaveHS
3.45/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Vintage 2007, poured into a tasting snifter.

A-Pours the color of golden raisins with no head or lacing.

S-Sweet and malty. Slightly phenolic.

T/M-Raisin sweetness, caramel, boozy sweetness. Very little carbonation. One dimensional. This benefits from 3 years in the bottle. I don't care for it fresh.

D-Not up to the standard set by regular Samichlaus, but it's worth trying with a few years on it.

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Photo of JayS2629
4.65/5  rDev +23.3%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This is very similar to the original samichlaus but sweeter and lighter.

A- Red amber with little head.

S- Brown sugar with notes of cherry and cinamon. Hints of vanilla.

T- Caramel and toffee with hints of vanilla and cherry. Some cinamon. Raw sugar.

M- Sticky and creamy. Almost cloying.

D- Strong but alcohol well hidden. Definitely a sipping beer. Slightly easier to drink that the original. Lighter and alcohol masked better. Sweeter.

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Photo of geokills
4.08/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured out a bottle dated 2007, the burnt amber fluid produced minimal head, with a very slight ring of retention. Exceptionally sweet malty smell coaxes me to imbibe this strong doppelbock. Surprisingly at 14% abv, the alcohol has mellowed very well through the years to produce a sweet, slightly cloying and full bodied concoction balanced with good carbonation. Slightly sticky but by and large, very enjoyable for a beer of such potency.

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Photo of AgentMunky
4.05/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 33cL bottle into a pilsner glass.

A: Red amber. No head or bubbles. Just plain pretty.

S: Sour grapes or cranberries, almost like wine verging on vinegar. Strong alcohol with sweet undertones.

T: Strongly, sweetly spicy; lighter than the Samichlaus Classic. The main body is sweet -- peach, apricot, sweet cherries, raw sugar -- but with touches of carbonation and spices (cinnamon, nutmeg, cardamon?). The aftertaste is sweet, long, and kind of sticky.

M: Too sticky for me. Not quite cloying, but almost.

D: Too sweet and too strong to be drinkable, but still really good. Highly recommended, but not as good as the Classic.

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Photo of Swill5786
3.52/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2007... 14% ABV...

Pours an apricot-shade of orange... Minimal head, quickly fades. Carbonation tosses the yeast about for a few minutes before it settles down. Nose of a great doppelbock... Alcohol content clearly high, doing a good job hiding spicy hops. Picking up complexity of aromas: Raisins, plums, cherries, apples. Sweet start with fruity nose making a strong showing in the taste. Carbonation is decent throughout. Alcohol creates a bitterness in the finish, but becomes clandestine, showing up under a pleasant, bready aftertaste. Medium body. Alcohol presence increases slightly with warming. Drink one and you'll be good to go.

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Photo of jrrs
3.53/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

i am glad i got a chance to drink this, and would have another in the future, but i prefer regular Samichlaus.

got it at Ledger's Liqour in berkeley. they have them refrigerated and the labels are pretty moldy but who cares. iirc the bottling was 2008.

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Photo of bucklemyshoe
3.27/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz. bottle at 42* into a snifter.

A: This pours a clear, dark-red color with no head to speak of.

S: It is mostly overtaken by alcohol but there are notes of cherry, raisins, and sugary caramel.

T: It consists of cherry, figs, brown sugar, and lots of alcohol.

M: This is very sweet without being very thick. Strange.

D: If this had only 10-11% abv, I think it would be much better.

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Photo of feloniousmonk
4.25/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I didn't even know this existed, until I saw someone order it at the bar I'm marooned at while the rain pours down. So, here I go, a drinkin'...

Clear amber color, smallish white head, stick around a bit...

Aroma: clean and lightly fruity, peach and apple, apricot and herbs...

Drink it already!....Boom! Big fat malt, huge fruity flavor, little hops, nothing but enormous malt and alcohol. Slick, sweet, clean. Yum. Light bodied, lean, sweet, malty lager....way over-sized booze. Incredible, formidable, intense. Burning fruit roasts the palate, clean and mean, ...yum, and hot! yum, and fierce! yum, and POW!

Mmmm, all 14 % blonde doppelbocks should be this good!

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Photo of Cylinsier
3.97/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

bottle

Pours a light amber gold, thin white head retains as a lacing.

The smell is almost sugar sweet, with notes of apple and caramel and a hint on the acidic side.

Taste is very sweet like overripe fruit. There is a heavy alcohol taste as well.

Feels moderate to full, tingly carbonation in the back of the throat and on the tip of the tongue. Warms going down.

Fairly similar to the other Samichlaus, but sweeter and lighter, maybe bordering on too sweet. I prefer the other, but this beer is an experience not to be taken lightly, worth trying at least once to say you did.

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Photo of BeardedBoffin
1.49/5  rDev -60.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

This hefty brew was delivered in a 33 cl brown vessel. The beer poured a handsome amber color, but the is completely devoid of foam, due to the high alcohol content I suppose.

The aroma charges into the nasal passages like something from a bygone war. Heavily scented with sweetly fermenting grains--not rotten, but not far from it. The thought of high-protein cattle feed is also triggered by the waft. The booze is inescapable. The aroma bursts forth into flavor on the palate evincing a wince from this taste tester. Everything the nose foretold is here, recklessly floundering about, before it signs off with a big boozy burn.

I am able to enjoy a malt bomb. The more barleywine, the better, I always say. But I am having trouble locating anything positive about the taste profile of this malty brew. After the first sip, I braved one more, but then could not continue. The label proudly boasts, "The world's most extraordinary beverage". I, for one, would use a different adjective.

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Photo of psychoanesthesia
1.31/5  rDev -65.3%
look: 2 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

This beer is terrible.

It's the color of apple juice. Or urine. No head due to high alcohol content.

It smells like caramelized sugar, rotten apples and/or other similar fruits, and alcohol.

It tastes like it smells. Cloyingly sweet, rotten tasting; overall, very offensive. The alcohol warmth doesn't help. This beer is all malt - the little bitterness it does have is from the alcohol. The first time I drank this beer I was convinced I had purchased a bad bottle. So I drank another one to confirm. Yup, it's that bad alright! One dimension to this beer, folks - crap.

Mouthfeel is kinda like lightly carbonated vomit - slick, thick, and unpleasant. Drinkability is poor due mainly to the fact that it tastes bad and has 14% alcohol. It's lightly carbonated, so that helps the drinkability, I guess.

The original Samichlaus is actually very good (as is Samichlaus Helles's cheaper counterpart, the Urbock 23), so I would emphatically recommend avoiding this beer.

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Photo of cpetrone84
3.3/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Not sure if this is the right beer but I have a 14% abv. bottle that says Samichlaus on it. It is brewed only once a year on Dec. 6th after being aged for 10 months.

A-the beer pours a dark copper color with red edges. the head is tan colored but very thin and almost not existent dissipating immediately.

S-the nose is extremely sweet, tons of brown sugar and carmelized candy notes. hints of dark cherries and some ripe plum, notes of bourbon in the finish.

T-the taste is extremely sweet. carmelized brown sugar, tons of candied sugar, notes of caramel malt, some dark cherries, fig, and ripe plum and set underneath all of the sugar. this is huge flavor but so sweet.

M-extremely smooth and o so syrupy. this is full bodied, thick and viscous. a little low on carbonation to lack a strong finish and actually slightly astringent pucking the lips somewhat.

D-this is just too sweet to really enjoy. it has some nice flavors; but all of the sugar and sweetness in this make it almost difficult to drink. the huge abv is hidden very well, however.

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Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
3.77 out of 5 based on 417 ratings.
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