Samichlaus Bier Helles | Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

Samichlaus Bier HellesSamichlaus Bier Helles
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3.78/5
419 Ratings
Samichlaus Bier HellesSamichlaus Bier Helles
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
Austria
schloss-eggenberg.at

Style: Maibock / Helles Bock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 14.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by mikesgroove on 11-25-2007

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Photo of coldmeat23
3.97/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

GLASS: Kostritzer Mug
TEMP: Cellared @ approx 50 degrees
BOTTLED IN 2007

This one pours a clear, dark, golden honey color. A fingers worth of loose foam forms, then recedes quickly. Not much lacing to speak of.

Very rich malt notes dominate. Lots of fruit presence also, like golden raisins, pears, apricots and nectarines. Large notes of honey. Hint of booziness.
It's very rich and sweet smelling.

A super dessert beer is what we have here. Very rich, sweet and decadent. A smooth, rich maltiness is prominent. Tons of sweet fruit notes also, mostly white fruits/orchard fruits. A very light booziness is here, which is somewhat surprising, because it was a little more obvious in the nose.

This is almost more like a nectar than a beer. It's a thick body with very minimal carbonation. This would be wonderful poured over ice cream or custard.

It should be said that this is certainly not an everyday beer. It is an excellent dessert beer though. It's very easy to drink, but you'd regret drinking multiples in a single session.

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Photo of tavernjef
4.2/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Clear pale golden coppery color with a bolder center of thickness. A minimal scratchy white head of foam appears briefly to a thin ring and no lacing. Given the malty weight of the brew however, it's not expected.

Aroma is heavy of a slushed over malty tropical mush of warming ethanolic pear, yellow raisin, and apricot.

Warm to the gullet immediately with a malty rich goo of warmth that eludes to a tropical illusion of milding caramel, pear, yellow raisin, and star fruit. A touch of white grape skin dryness perks the finish with a fluff on the tongue of syrupy tropical jam.

Body is slick, bold, filling, warm, sleek, smooth, and more warm. The girth is perfect in its fullness as it lets the malts create a slight stick and chewy aspect behind each warming, hearty sip.

This tremendously malty, sip at, treat is quite nice and tropically set within a gooey mush of yummyness. It will warm any palate quickly and swim any head that drinks it down just as quickly, as it should.

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Photo of erz316
3.95/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

got the last bottle at sahara mart, 11.2 floz into brooklyn pokal. bottled int 2007, the first year since 1986.

A - not much head even with a nearly vertical pour. head is a bit off white, undoubtedly from the bright colour of the body, and about one fingers high. simmers down to a thin layer in under a minute. the colour is this majestic setting sun orange; a rich amber. the colour is very beautiful. I wonder why they decided to do a clear bock? well they did very well, at most the beer could be classified as a medium-dark orange, which is nothing compared to the rich dark brown of the regular samichlaus. head eventually becomes a whispy layer on top.

S - despite the reduction in colour, the beer's nose hold up for its own. a very rich malty, fruity and booze nose. the top notes are boozy sweet fruits, booze is quite pungent and noticeable; it cuts right through the sweetness at times, and others it blends seamlessly with it to make a super booze soaked fruitcake kind of aroma. the middle notes are of the muted malt body, still very sweet, but not as malty in essence as other x2 bocks. nothing discernible holding up the beer. a fairly straightforward nose, simple but still quite delicious. smell develops quite nicely as it warms up a bit: malts become a lot more noticeable.

T - initial taste is a very strong, piercing fruity-booze, with some minor hop bitters, and a big malt presence. the malts really make themselves noticeable here; if it werent for them, then this would be so much more boozy. the alcohol is quite manageable when first tasting it, but it develops into this dragon in the later stages. the subtleness of the hops is, well, quite elusive; only when one has cornered out the malts and the booze does that characteristic bitterness become evident. the finish is almost cloying in both sweetness and alcohol burn. the alcohol sheds its fruity skin and tears down the throat with a ethanol like character; the booze is completely raw. right after the sting from the alcohol is this huge sweet malt body, this is the taste that was keeping the alcohol in check during the initial tasting. wow, is it sweet. really almost like rock candy or something else that is basically pure sugar. it is quite interesting to get to see these two flavours by themselves in one stage of drinking. the aftertaste is a bit of that warming alcohol at first, then it subsides into the really sweet malt character. the taste evens out pretty quickly, leaving a more balanced flavour. overall I think the finish is a bit too strong and sweet; I can deal with the alcohol, if anything it is a good burning warming feeling, but the sweetness is too much for my palate.

MF&D - as mentioned above, i think the drinkability will suffer because it is too sweet, maybe it should be a dessert beer. the feel is pretty good, right amount of carbonation and the body is just enough syrupy to be a x2 bock. I'm guessing that because it is the helles bock, the feel is a bit thinner. understandable, but not desirable.

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Photo of zeff80
2.92/5  rDev -22.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

A - Poured out a clear, golden-orange color with little to no head. No lacing either.

S - It smelled of sweet honey, caramel and sugar with a boozy nose, too.

T - Very, very sweet. Over the top sweet with boozy taste.

M - One of the better qualities of this brew. It was crisp and sharp. A medium-bodied beer.

D - To me this beer is just over done. Too much alcohol, too much sweetness without any hop character.

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Photo of jgasparine
3.74/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A- Poured the color of orange blossom honey, with minimal head, and some nice bubble trains.

S- Smells of honey, vanilla, fruit nectar and alcohol. The nose wasn't as prominent as I expected from such a big beer, but that may have to do with the champagne-saucer-style glass I was drinking out of.

T- Honey and almond flavors are up front, followed by candy sugar and an alcohol burn.

M- Oily on the tongue and creamy in texture. Lots of unattenuated sugars lend to a full body here despite the high ABV.

D- This beer is wonderful as a nightcap, but I couldn't have more than one in a sitting.

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Photo of brokenleadedcask
2.62/5  rDev -30.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

My girlfriend went to San Fran and this is one of the beers she purchased for me at City Beer. Best girlfriend ever!

Unfortunately, this beer wasn't what I was expecting. It poured a golden orange with a fizzy soda pop head that disappeared and I couldn't make it return, no matter how much swirling. I have to say, the smell was the best part. Honey, Euro hops, clove and alcohol ( it IS 14%). This beer is on fire, plenty of alcohol in the taste. Some honey and bread are all that were left. Thin and astringent in the mouth. I found it odd that a beer this strong could be watery. Some lingering cloying sweetness and fire in the belly. 14% but not a lot of depth. This one is "one and done". I would sample again, if offered, but it would have to be aged for 5-10 years.

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Photo of kingcrowing
2.78/5  rDev -26.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

11.2oz Bottled in 2007, poured in a snifter.

Very sweet, slightly alcoholic aroma, no hops, little malt. Small head dissipated very quickly. light carbonation.

Very sweet and somewhat hot. It as a quite full mouthfeel similar to a very sweet red wine, almost syrupy. It gives a good warming feeling.

Overall I'd say that for a beer brewed 3 years ago this is still very young, if you've got a cellar going toss this down there for a few more years and give it another go. I wouldn't drink this fresh again.

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Photo of theghost3
3.67/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a transparent deep copper with no head. No lacing.

The smell is strong of alcohol, sweet malts, whiskey. The taste is really sweet of malts; almost a drambuie type taste, alcohol. Mouthfeel is sticky, smooth, almost no carbonation.

This is drinkable but the ABV is very apparent. Tastes & smells almost more like liquor than beer.

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Photo of jballeng
2.24/5  rDev -40.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 1 | overall: 1

Pours dark amber with little to no head. Malty aroma. Accents of malt, chestnuts, and pears. Alcohol makes a VERY strong presence at the finish. So sweet as to induce gagging. An unpleasant brew; felt like I was drinking cough syrup. On the other hand, I admire the bottle design.

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Photo of thequeen711
3.82/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from the bottle to my tulip glass, golden pour, tiny head that left a light lacing. Strong nose of malts...strong taste of alcohol and malts...however the lightness of the mouthfeel made is most enjoyable. I also detected a fruitiness in there mixed with the malts. A truly superb beer from start to finish, not for all to enjoy, only those with a true appreciation for the higher ABV's will appreciate this Helles.

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Photo of janubio
4.9/5  rDev +29.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

I didin't know about this one until I saw a bottle in De Bierkoning in a trip to Amsterdam last year. Wish I had bought more bottles. Served in my rare Samichlaus glass, it pours some more head than its sister and lasts a bit more, but you can say it doesn't last. Very nice amber-orange colour, and absolutely beatiful when you hold it to the light.
Smells of honey, tropical fruits, dried fruits, and even almonds or hazelnuts or similar. Licorice, caramel. Silky sweet, maybe too sweet, flavor. Palate is similar, orange, honey, hazelnuts... only add a touch of oak. The finish is more like an orange liquor than a brandy, a difference to the Samichlaus we all know. The only "bad" thing that I could find is that I would have like it a little less sweetness, but when you have a beer like this, who cares?

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Photo of theboozecruise
3.87/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a small bottle into a pint glass... light golden color with a little bit of a white head. The aroma is hard for me to place... maybe a little bit of banana in there? Smells like something burned a little, weird I know. The taste is strong, maybe a little fruit and the 14% alcohol is definitely there. I'm still having a little trouble with the flavor, but it's good. Strong, but good.

I'm not enamored by this one, but it's definitely a solid beer.

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Photo of ncstateplaya
3.75/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

I'm not so sure if the beer was this good, or if it was the fact I was enjoying it at the head of the bar at the Brick Store. (+1)

It pours a great amber with a very clear presentation. Somewhat of a white head, but I would qualify it as a white sheen coating the surface. This beer seemed to be pretty effervescent for the style and ABV.

Caramel and vanilla flood the senses. Big and sweet upfront with an inviting maltiness that stimulates my salivary glands. Smells slightly yeasty with a bit of alcohol.

Very complex taste, comparable to a nice cognac. Rich and extremely sweet, with a slight oaky aftertaste. Dark fruit-> brandy like (apricots, dates, figs) with tons of caramel up front.

Viscous and medium to full bodied. Silky smooth with tight bubbled carbonation that is lively in the mouth. Very sweet with residual sugars. Definitely coats the mouth and leaves the tongue and cheeks feeling "satisfied". There is a big alcohol bite on the finish.

The flavors definitely reveal themselves as this beer warms. Much more pronounced, but so is the big alcohol character of this beer. Very drinkable at 14%, but 2 is enough for anyone. There is no doubt, this beer warms from the inside out.

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Photo of Monsteruss
5/5  rDev +32.3%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

One of my favorite beers. The foam was a light wheat/white which dissapated very quickly witha small ring afterwards. The color was nice golden honey with hints of red and orange in the light. Taste was exceptional - it was darker and heavier than percieved by color. It also had berry undertones. Smell - crisp, clean and a variety of exotic complex fruity hints. Mouthfeel was deep. Drinkibility - smooth and rich a nice aquired taste.

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Photo of lordofthewiens
3.32/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

A 750ml bottle shared with my wife. It didn't look like a doppelbock, being a pretty light amber color with a small white head. Caramel malt and honey aroma. The alcohol hits you in the face when you take a sip, followed by a strong malt presence, and a pervasive incredible sweetness. This beer was way too sweet, and the alcohol was way too intrusive. I doubt I'll be drinking this beer again.

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Photo of BedetheVenerable
3.55/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: Very classy looking pry off brown bottle, 2007 batch

Appearance: Light orange/amber beer with a white ring; mild TINY bubbles, almost Champagne-like

Smell: Light candied fruit and malt notes; sweet bready tones underneath

Taste: Ultra sweet, there are sharp (but light) notes of alcohol, very faint cotton candy notes, with sweet orange peel as well...this is much more like a brandy than a beer

Mouthfeel: Viscous, medium-heavy bodied with nice long finish

Drinkability: Pretty good for a 14%abv beer

Conclusion: This is not something I'd drink often, but it would be quite nice to split with the lady after a nice meal

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Photo of Floydster
3.17/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

11.2 ounce bottle purchased from Stuffed Sandwich for around seven dollars, 2008 vintage, split with my dad last night, poured into my Duvel tulip glass

A-Golden orangish amber color with some golden yellow highlights, one inch foamy white head, decent retention, some lacing
S-Alcohol, honey, sweetness, lots of citrus, caramel, good amount of malt, toasted bread
T-Starts off hot with a lot of booze, sweet malts and other fruit in the middle, slightly toasted in the finish but still a big boozy flavor, this becomes so damn sweet that I can barely get it down towards the end, honey comes out later and adds to the sweetness and booze
M-Hot, sweet, and slightly toasted mouthfeel, medium to full bodied, carbonation is on the softer side which surprised me after seeing the head, taste lingers too long
D-Should have shared this with one or two more people, alcohol is not hidden at all and really affects its drinkability, overly sweet all the way through, very filling and reminds me a little of cough syrup at various times

Not my favorite dopplebock and quite light in color for the style, originally thought this was a hopped up version of a Helles Lager and I seemed to be wrong after the very first sip I took, not in a hurry to drink this again, a little too strong in my opinion, worth trying

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Photo of Crosling
3.82/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pale colored beer with a thin, wispy white foam. Strong malt aroma hints of light golden fruits and caramel. Flavor is intensely sweet and intensely flavored. Nicely balanced, with well hidden alcohol, this beauty deliverers strong, complex malt notes of golden raisin, caramel and toffee. Should drink well for a decade.

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Photo of Mdog
3.73/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Gold, thin & fading head, no lacing.

Smell: I know it's strong, but does it have to smell like a high gravity malt liquor? Alcohol, apple/grape aroma reminds me too much of a 40oz.

Taste: Thankfully the taste stays far away from malt liquor nastiness. Very sweet, mild bread, strong caramel, a touch of grape, alcohol burn.

Drinkability: A special occasion beer.

Picked up a single at half off pricing. I had the regular Samichlaus years ago and remembered it was sweet and that I took a nap afterwards. The Helles follows, very sweet but not cloying. No nap this time!

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Photo of Brad007
3.31/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Wow, 14%?

Pours a nice light amber color with a one-finger head and what appears to be ample carbonation.

Aroma is sweet with a strong whiff of alcohol in the nose. A bit of tart apple comes through as well for some reason. Not quite as dark as a doppelbock though.

Taste is strong and very malty upfront. Almost a bit too sweet as well. Alcohol is hidden enough in the back but the sweetness is too much for me.

Sweetness lingers on the palate followed by nothing but alcohol.

This is definitely a bit too sweet. I was expecting a malt bomb (good) but instead this seems like a sugar bomb (bad). I'm not sure how well it would age but I'm sure it'd be sickly sweet by then.

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Photo of AleWerks
3.6/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle aged 1 year.

Amber, orange appearance. Highly carbonated.

Sweet smell with some DMS coming through.

Cloyingly sweet. Sugar.

Thick and viscous, with a brightly carbonated finish.

Too sweet for me. I can barely finish this beer by itself. It would go well paired with something equally sweet. Not my favorite but worth a try.

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Photo of AccidentalKate
3.89/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A nice amber-orange like color . Carbonation seems strong, but truth is somewhere else (see mouthfeel). No head or lace to speak of after a minute or so.

Aroma is a fruity, berry like smell, light but very present.

Nothing like I've ever tasted before. Sweet and caramel like with a finish that is quite sugary. Novelty alone gets the taste up. Finish lasts a well, but the sweetness gets a to be a bit cloy.

As far as the mouthfeel, for all of the carbonation that appears to be present, the mouthfeel seems a bit light. The snap of good carbonation is missing, or at least less than the drink advertises.

Overall? A good beer, not great. This would be a nice dessert beer to go with a cake or something. It's a little too sweet at the end, and a little less than sharp in the mouthfeel. But it is worth trying to see something different.

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Photo of BMoney575
4.02/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Sampled on 1-25-09
2007 Vintage

Pours a very clear orange/gold color, no head, and almost no lacing. Looks thick and boozy.

Smell is very sweet, kind of fruity in a wine way, and a noticeable alcohol kick.

Taste is very sweet, a bit of light fruit, and a big, bready, boozy finish. Extreme alcohol, but not in a bad way. One-dimensional, but tasty.

Mouthfeel is super thick and syrupy, great to go with the flavors.

Drinkability is very good, considering the enormous abv.

Overall, about what I expected, and a good choice to loosen things up.

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Photo of colts9016
4.22/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pour into a pilsner glass at 45 degrees.

Appearance: A deep gold color with no head. There is a lot of carbonation in the beer. The clarity of the beer is very clear.

Nose: Port like aroma. Raisin, plum, grape , and rich toasted malt with a sweet caramel molasses. A rich alcoholic on the foreground. Kinda like a grape juice on store shelves.

Taste: A spicy alcohol with a port like aroma with raisin, plum, and grapes. There is a lightly toasted malt with a sweet yeast and bread like. There is caramel and that grape juice taste.

Overall: I like this one better than its cousin. It has a spicy warming alcohol mouth feel. The finish is sweet and linger on the palate for a few moments. The is a very strong beer that will put u at one or two sheets.

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Photo of roadhouse
4.6/5  rDev +21.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had this on tap today at Three Floyds into a Samichlaus tulip glass.

Appearance was a bright and clear golden-orange with a one inch off-white head. It retained pretty well and left some decent lacing on the glass.

The aroma was pretty similar to the other one, without the "darker" notes. There's tons of sweet caramel and toffee notes, a big raisiny backbone, and a lovely brown sugarish sweetness. Alcohol is obviously apparent at 14% ABV, but doesn't distract.

The taste is just as good. Lots of sweetness throughout, with a lot of caramel sweetness and brown sugar in the beginning. Fruitiness is just as big, mostly of raisins, which enters right at the start of the swallow. The finish was a lingering of both the fruitiness and malt character. No hops to speak of son, this is malt country.

Mouthfeel was medium bodied, very smooth drinking with a slight crispness. Alcohol factor is slightly deterrent to drinkability.

I just don't understand how both Samichlaus are rated with a measly B+! These are world class beers in my opinion, easily the two best Doppelbocks ever, and I've had quite a few. I can sum this beer up in a few word: I need more.

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Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
Beer rating: 3.78 out of 5 with 419 ratings
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