Samichlaus Bier Helles | Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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Samichlaus Bier HellesSamichlaus Bier Helles

Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

Style: Maibock / Helles Bock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 14.00%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by mikesgroove on 11-25-2007

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Photo of Crosling
3.82/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pale colored beer with a thin, wispy white foam. Strong malt aroma hints of light golden fruits and caramel. Flavor is intensely sweet and intensely flavored. Nicely balanced, with well hidden alcohol, this beauty deliverers strong, complex malt notes of golden raisin, caramel and toffee. Should drink well for a decade.

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Photo of Mdog
3.73/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Gold, thin & fading head, no lacing.

Smell: I know it's strong, but does it have to smell like a high gravity malt liquor? Alcohol, apple/grape aroma reminds me too much of a 40oz.

Taste: Thankfully the taste stays far away from malt liquor nastiness. Very sweet, mild bread, strong caramel, a touch of grape, alcohol burn.

Drinkability: A special occasion beer.

Picked up a single at half off pricing. I had the regular Samichlaus years ago and remembered it was sweet and that I took a nap afterwards. The Helles follows, very sweet but not cloying. No nap this time!

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Photo of Brad007
3.31/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Wow, 14%?

Pours a nice light amber color with a one-finger head and what appears to be ample carbonation.

Aroma is sweet with a strong whiff of alcohol in the nose. A bit of tart apple comes through as well for some reason. Not quite as dark as a doppelbock though.

Taste is strong and very malty upfront. Almost a bit too sweet as well. Alcohol is hidden enough in the back but the sweetness is too much for me.

Sweetness lingers on the palate followed by nothing but alcohol.

This is definitely a bit too sweet. I was expecting a malt bomb (good) but instead this seems like a sugar bomb (bad). I'm not sure how well it would age but I'm sure it'd be sickly sweet by then.

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Photo of AleWerks
3.6/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle aged 1 year.

Amber, orange appearance. Highly carbonated.

Sweet smell with some DMS coming through.

Cloyingly sweet. Sugar.

Thick and viscous, with a brightly carbonated finish.

Too sweet for me. I can barely finish this beer by itself. It would go well paired with something equally sweet. Not my favorite but worth a try.

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Photo of AccidentalKate
3.89/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A nice amber-orange like color . Carbonation seems strong, but truth is somewhere else (see mouthfeel). No head or lace to speak of after a minute or so.

Aroma is a fruity, berry like smell, light but very present.

Nothing like I've ever tasted before. Sweet and caramel like with a finish that is quite sugary. Novelty alone gets the taste up. Finish lasts a well, but the sweetness gets a to be a bit cloy.

As far as the mouthfeel, for all of the carbonation that appears to be present, the mouthfeel seems a bit light. The snap of good carbonation is missing, or at least less than the drink advertises.

Overall? A good beer, not great. This would be a nice dessert beer to go with a cake or something. It's a little too sweet at the end, and a little less than sharp in the mouthfeel. But it is worth trying to see something different.

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Photo of BMoney575
4.02/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Sampled on 1-25-09
2007 Vintage

Pours a very clear orange/gold color, no head, and almost no lacing. Looks thick and boozy.

Smell is very sweet, kind of fruity in a wine way, and a noticeable alcohol kick.

Taste is very sweet, a bit of light fruit, and a big, bready, boozy finish. Extreme alcohol, but not in a bad way. One-dimensional, but tasty.

Mouthfeel is super thick and syrupy, great to go with the flavors.

Drinkability is very good, considering the enormous abv.

Overall, about what I expected, and a good choice to loosen things up.

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Photo of colts9016
4.22/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pour into a pilsner glass at 45 degrees.

Appearance: A deep gold color with no head. There is a lot of carbonation in the beer. The clarity of the beer is very clear.

Nose: Port like aroma. Raisin, plum, grape , and rich toasted malt with a sweet caramel molasses. A rich alcoholic on the foreground. Kinda like a grape juice on store shelves.

Taste: A spicy alcohol with a port like aroma with raisin, plum, and grapes. There is a lightly toasted malt with a sweet yeast and bread like. There is caramel and that grape juice taste.

Overall: I like this one better than its cousin. It has a spicy warming alcohol mouth feel. The finish is sweet and linger on the palate for a few moments. The is a very strong beer that will put u at one or two sheets.

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Photo of roadhouse
4.6/5  rDev +21.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had this on tap today at Three Floyds into a Samichlaus tulip glass.

Appearance was a bright and clear golden-orange with a one inch off-white head. It retained pretty well and left some decent lacing on the glass.

The aroma was pretty similar to the other one, without the "darker" notes. There's tons of sweet caramel and toffee notes, a big raisiny backbone, and a lovely brown sugarish sweetness. Alcohol is obviously apparent at 14% ABV, but doesn't distract.

The taste is just as good. Lots of sweetness throughout, with a lot of caramel sweetness and brown sugar in the beginning. Fruitiness is just as big, mostly of raisins, which enters right at the start of the swallow. The finish was a lingering of both the fruitiness and malt character. No hops to speak of son, this is malt country.

Mouthfeel was medium bodied, very smooth drinking with a slight crispness. Alcohol factor is slightly deterrent to drinkability.

I just don't understand how both Samichlaus are rated with a measly B+! These are world class beers in my opinion, easily the two best Doppelbocks ever, and I've had quite a few. I can sum this beer up in a few word: I need more.

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Photo of BWH3
3.68/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Rich copper with just of white head. Head last an average length of time. Above average carbonation without being gassy or fizzy.

S: A sweet, spicy and alcoholic scent. Toasted grains are clearly present.

T: Similar big rich sweet malt flavor with lots of toasted notes. The alcohol is not as noticeable as in the scent but the palate is thick and has a bit of spice.

M: Thick, average head retention. Creamy and viscous beverage.

D: A warm winter lager that lights you up like a Christmas tree. Cheers.

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Photo of JamesS
3.68/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a light copper color with a ton of initial head, although it goes away quickly; no lacing, but a lot of lasting carbonation. Very deep scent, extremely malty with some caramal undertones and a hint of cinnamon; a very strong hint of alcohol. Deep taste, slight fruity esters to go with the deep malt and caramal notes, although the alcohol sticks out enough to take away from some of the flavor. Fairly rough due to its high ABV, although not as rough as it could be. A nice helles/dopplebock merger. The history of the beer is great, although the cost is pretty prohibitive (luckily this was a gift from a friend).

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Photo of BeerImmediately
3.87/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

11.2 oz capped bottle poured at 55 degrees into Duvel glass.

Surprisingly clear, and orange in color, with a low head and plenty of bubbles rising.

The smell was pretty tame - I picked up sweet pear and alcohol, with a touch of orange peel.

Sweet fruits and dark bread (s'up, fruitcake!) with what I'll describe as "pleasant" alcohol in the flavor. Some honey sweetness in the finish.

The mouthfeel was rich, and plays on the tongue for a while, but not as cloying as many other styles which have only 9-11% ABV. I give them credit for pulling this off at 14%.

I really enjoyed this one, and wouldn't hesitate to drop some coin on some of these in the future.

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Photo of Jmamay22
3/5  rDev -20.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

2007 vintage.

This big lager pours a clear orange tinted blonde with little head and only an egg shell colored collar. Smells of apple, raisin, and spiced alcohol. Enjoyable, yet simple scent.

Tastes sweet, fruity and shows less of its alcohol than anticipated. A little too sickly sweet for my tastes. Syrupy mouthfeel. A very slow sipper. The alcohol isn't as difficult as the sweetness and really holds back the drinkability of this beer. Exciting concept that fails with me in practice

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Photo of scottoale
4.2/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2007 vintage, 330ml. brown bottle. Poured into a Chimay chalice a bright orange-gold with a thin 1/4" off-white head that disappears before your eyes.

It smells of sweet toasty malt, over ripened fruit and boat load of alcohol, as it should at 14% ABV.

The taste is ever so sweet of grainy malt, floral fruitiness and a big punch of alcohol that hides not. This stuff tastes strong and is strong. Good and strong.

A medium syrupy body that fluffs a bit in the mouth, tingles a bit on the tongue, then goes down with a pleasant warming sensation...good stuff!

Very sweet, very drinkable for it's potency and a kick-ass brew to boot...worth the experience for sure.

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Photo of froghop
3.5/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

pours a clear copper-orange with a small white head that goes away quickly, leaving some lacing.

smell is fruity, malt, alcohol, and few hops.

taste is thick, sweat fruit, caramel, malt, and warming.

very nice brew, more of something to sip and not gulp. very warm on the way down.

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Photo of charlzm
4/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Consumed 12/19/08 at Verdugo, Los Angeles, CA.

Clear, dark honey colored beer with little carbonation or head.

Aroma is very sweet and boozy with a bit of a spice character, almost like tree sap.

Flavor has strong note of vanilla with that tree sap character form the aroma as well. Sweet with alcohol heat. Woody (oak?) Almost a champagne character as well. Flavor lingers on the palate well after the beer has passed through.

Slight astringency on finish. Thick.

Huge beer, requires patience and determination to finish. Worth it, though.

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Photo of usmittymc
3.4/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: Deep orange liquid with a very thin white head that reduces to a ring.

S: Dark fruit, alcohol, sweet malt

T: The fruity flavors are contrasted quickly by some spicy licorice flavors which is in turn smacked in the face by hot, hot alcohol. The alcohol dominates the palate, but doesn't take away from this beer. It is subtly complemented by the other flavors, but I wouldn't go as far to say that it is balanced.

M: Smooth on the draw, but the alcohol quickly takes over and makes this beer hot, hot, hot.

D: This is definitely a beer to be appreciated very slowly and infrequently. I didn't quite know what to expect from this one, and I have to say that I was surprised. I have another 11.2 oz bottle of this that I will probably let age for a couple more years. I cellared this one for about 11 months.

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Photo of SFLpunk
4.43/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750mL painted brown glass swingtop. "Bottled in 2007." This is one of 12 bottles that came into the state of Vermont recently.

Appearance: Almost no carbonation. A clear, orange/gold hue that gets thin and watery at the rim, going more burnt yellow towards the edges.

Nose: Sweet Jesus! Candy malt, light caramel, yellow plantains, a quick zip of licorice, candied orange peel, and some prickly alcohol.

Palate: Medium bodied, almost no carbonation, and a little hot and sweet up front. As the sugar-shock fades, toasty malt notes come out. A little creme brulée, Marcona almonds, a faint whisper of citrus, a touch of ripe banana, and sweet buttered oak. A warming finish of alcohol carries the flavors on for minutes after the sip.

Notes: At 14% ABV, this beer is surprisingly balanced. It's hot, and a little prickly, but it doesn't feel like 14. 10 maybe. The finish is incredibly long, and the ageability of this beer is out of this world. I might have to buy some for my children...maybe it will be mature by then!

Oh man. The finish is amazing. The banana/plantain thing comes in and out of focus for minutes after the sip. I'm going to go make some seared dry-rubbed Pollack and some red beans and rice to have with this!

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Photo of UGADawgGuy
3.43/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I've enjoyed several regular Samichlaus over the last few months, and when I saw the helles on the shelf, I just had to try it. I must warn you prior to my review that I think this beer should, as a rule, be cellared for a while...I'll review it again in a year or two (or three), and my impression of it will probably improve dramatically.

Appearance: Poured into a 19-ounce dimpled glass mug (the one from the Savvy Six-Pack sold on this site), this beer is sparkling clear, with a color about halfway between "pale ale" and "amber lager." An average pour yields a one-finger head that dwindles to a faint cap fairly quickly. Minimal lacing is observed during drinking.

Smell: Smells like a beefed-up German Oktoberfestbier to me. The alcohol is perceptible in the nose, which is (in my experience) a rare thing for a beer this sweet. I pick up aromas of honey, flowers, and LOTS of malt.

Taste: Essentially follows the nose, in that the two most prominent flavors are honey and astringent alcohol (but not in that order). The malt is certainly there, but DAMN -- the alcohol just about overpowers everything else about this beer. Again, I suspect it would vastly improve with age. I plan to test that theory over the next few years.

Mouthfeel: Noticeablly thinner and less full than standard Samichlaus. Feels kind of like a festbier. By that, I mean it seems SLIGHTLY heavier than your average European lager, but nowhere close to...say, an English barleywine.

Drinkability -- If it weren't for the obvious -- and detrimental -- alcohol heat and astringency that overwhelms the rest of the drinking experience, maybe it'd be more drinkable. As it is, this stuff is very difficult to finish, even when sipped slowly. Certainly not a drain pour-type of beer, but probably just a beer that's not "ready" yet. Let these babies sit in your cellar (or on the retailer's shelves) for a year or two before popping one open.

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Photo of superdedooperboy
4.17/5  rDev +10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2007 batch, brewed on December 6, 2007, of course. Sadly, the enjoyment of this one was six days past its one-year vintage -- it would have been much more exciting to have enjoyed it on 6. Dezember 2008. The excitement was still present, nevertheless.

Pours a clear, deep golden hue with just a tinge of amber. A slight head of creamy white foam rises slowly and falls quickly, all but disappearing and dropping no trace of itself on the walls of the tulip glass.

Smells big, rich and malty, with a powerfully sweet malt aroma mixed with a bit of boozy alcohol.

Extremely full-bodied, thick and viscous in mouthfeel. A huge malt bomb on the palate. Mega malt sweetness melds with a warming alcohol presence and a bit of fruitiness, going down with a pleasant warm feeling and a lingering sweetness that is, at the same time, dry, and calls for yet another swallow.

Deceptively drinkable is an understatement. Despite the maltiness, which is often borderline cloying, and the heavy alcohol presence, this brew just keeps screaming for another sip, and by the end of the glass the 14% ABV has been forgotten, though it quickly emerges in the lightheaded feeling the beer imparts.

Deliciously delicate and hard-hitting. A must-have for any fan of big, malty brews, and for fans of Doppel- and Eisbocks alike. Doppelbock is really a misnomer, as the Triple Bock designation given in Don Russell's book "Christmas Beer" is much more appropriate for a Bockbier this huge.

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Photo of czfreeman
4.25/5  rDev +12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2007 Pop-top 1pt 9.4oz bottle. I recived this as a birthday present earlier this month,as the brewing date corresponds with my birthday.
Pours out a cherry-brown tone,leaving little to no head.
Aromas are cherry cordial sweetness,congac-bite,a rich vanilla custard sweetness.Think Arm cheesecake. Malty earthy tones make up the crust of this delicious treat.
Taste is rendolent of the aroma. Spicy,sweet, cherrys up front,finishes with a cherry malt bite. German Gluhwein is immediatley called to mind, spicy and biting.The fullness of the creaminess of the taste is silky as eggnog, this really hits all points of a holiday drink.Long and lingering,this would be perfect sitting next to the tree at Chrismastime.
The mouthfeel is very full, the bite of the gingery spiciness combined with the sweet fullness of the creamy cherry-spice flavor make this a fantastic holiday treat. I hope to enjoy each year. Cheers St. Nick!

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Photo of John_M
3.55/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

On tap at Max's the other day.

The beer pours a bright gold color with minimal head retention and lacing. Don't get a lot on tbe nose either, though there is a hint of sweet malt and spice. On the palate this beer is VERY sweet, but with some interesting cherry, honey and vanilla. Coupled with the high alcohol, the sweetness makes this beer a bit cloying and heavy. Drinkability is where this beer really suffers, though I was able to finish the glass given enough time.

An interesting beer, though I'm not sure I'd want to order it again. The combination of sweetness and high alcohol is just too much, and make this a difficult beer to drink.

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Photo of CrellMoset
3.73/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2007 vintage, bottle from Wine Warehouse, Charlottesville, VA. Poured into a 12 oz. brandy snifter on the 1st anniversary of its brewing (December 6th, 2008).

Appearance: Pours a bright orange amber with thousands of time, fine, slow-moving bubbles that creep upwards towards a fast-fading one-finger head, the result of a fairly aggressive pour. It does, as I mentioned, fade fairly fast, which is likely forgivable, given the alcohol level. It leaves a thin ring of bubbly white lacing, sustained likely not even due to the surface tension that normally keeps part of the head sticking around, but instead due to the plethora of bubbles. Doesn't look much like a doppelbock, but I'm going to go fast and loose as far as rating this one to style goes ...

Aroma: Not too terribly much goin' on here - agitation reveals a lot of lighter fruity esters, most of which meld to evoke a very "apple juice"-y aroma. The alcohol is surprisingly imperceptible in the nose, at least for a while, but - looking back in retrospect after taking a sip or two - I wish you could detect a lot of good fruity notes that you get in the mouth, but it's fairly one-dimensional, if pleasant.

Taste: Hot damn. 1 part tropical fruit cocktail, 2 parts light rum, mix well, serve chilled. Lots of apples (not tart, sweet), buttery pears, pineapple, peaches, and tons of pale, honey sweetness. The alcohol is indeed warming and spicy, but it's at no point disagreeable - the overwhelming sweetness of this one does an admirable job of countering it, making it an enjoyable if intense experience.

Mouthfeel: It's incredibly thick, but the aforementioned carbonation goes a long way towards lightening things up a little. Still, it's fairly syrupy, and with plenty of prickly alcohol head (surprise!), but not as bad as it likely could or should be.

Drinkability: Well, what do you expect with a 14.0% abv beer? I enjoyed this one very slowly, perhaps over an hour and a half, so I don't feel too terribly buzzed, but you really gotta be careful with this one - I can't classify a beer I had to take an hour and a half to savor as "drinkable." Nonetheless, it's a fairly tasty and definitely interesting concoction, and though it's not something I'm gonna buy a four-pack of so I can whip one out after mowing the lawn, it's still something you should try at least once.

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Photo of Strix
4.1/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear golden, minimal head, some lacing.

Smells of malt, oak, booze, and fruits - apples?

Very fruity in the taste, apple, pineapple, peach, that turns to oak, also a spicy finish in there. Big dose of malt in there, also very sweet - tastes a bit like pure sugar cubes. Alcohol is in there, but certainly well hidden considering. A very interesting sipper.

Mouthfeel slick.

Definitely worth a try here. Reminds me a bit of an Old Ale and other high abv styles, which I haven't been a big fan of, yet this is certainly well crafted and impressed me. Really nice if you're in the mood for it.

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Photo of corby112
2.46/5  rDev -35.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Serving type: bottle.

Pours a pinkish blush color with miniscule white head that dissapears very quickly. Sweet aroma of alcohol, cherry and candi sugar. Very sweet tasting with cherry, grape, sugar cane notes and a very strong alcohol presence. This beer is not very flavorful and the strong alochol warmth makes it not very quaffable.

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Photo of scruffwhor
3.97/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750 ml swing top bottle.

Pours a clear caramel with no head or bubbling Makes me think cognac, not a dopplebock. Very cool looking. Caramel drizzled strawberries, pears, and peaches with a spanking of alcohol that makes presence known, but is well intergrated. Carameled and sugared peaches starts the flavor off right. Lots of other soft yet sugary sweet fruits dance around the palate with a turbocharge of alcohol. Lots of sweetness with this palate, very syrupy.The alcohol helps cu the iscociy a little. Any bitterness you notice is not from hops, but the 14% abv. Great sipping beer. One of the best sipping lagers I've ever had.

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Beer rating: 3.79 out of 5 with 427 ratings