Samichlaus Bier Helles | Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
Austria
schloss-eggenberg.at

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 14.00%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by mikesgroove on 11-25-2007

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412
Avg:
3.76
pDev:
15.43%
 
 
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Photo of lifeboyq
4.47/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2007 vintage poured into a gouden chalice with minimal head and little retention. it is a translucent burnt orange with ruby hues.

the one i drank last night was oxidized at first but with a vigorous swirl and some time to let the oxygen hit the surface of the beer, it opened up beautifully and the penny taste was gone. this one didnt need that as its bouquet was there from the offset so you may note that ify ou do get an oxidized taste that beer bottle isnt ready and needs to open up so just let it sit there.

it has that syrupy silky velvety heavy mouthfeel but not quite as thick as say a jw lees.

the tongue is sorghum sugar, maple syrup, some peaty earthiness, vanilla with candy apple and wood on the finish.

world class offering and drinking very well right now if it is given time to open up. pour it and let it sit there , swirl it some to help it. dont drink it too fast or you will miss what it has to offer.

great great stuff.

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Photo of Drinkerofales
4.27/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2007 vintage, aged 5 years by my good friends at Hollingshead.

Pours copper orange with a tiny dirty tan head which dissipates in less than one minute. No lacing, but not surprising considering the huge abv.

Smell is sweet booze, toffee, roasted malts and more cloyingly sweet plum skin. What a daunting, yet enticing aroma.

Taste is awesome, nicely sweet candied malt. There is some booze, but it's not overpowering. Deep and malty, huge and balanced.

Feel is thick and syrupy. There is almost no carbonation, but that's alright. The beer warms my stomach like a fine spirit, but doesn't burn as much on my tongue.

What a strange and awesome brew. I am glad I picked up this nicely aged beer. Everything about this is scary, but once I filled my mouth with this concoction, I was very pleased. While alcohol is present in every aspect, it's balanced, and only by it's aging.

This beer is the true Arrogant Bastard. Huge and takes the other beers to school, and makes them their bitch. Be afraid, if you can't handle this, it's alright, you aren't ready, or perhaps, you didn't age it long enough.

DOA

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Photo of yamar68
2.46/5  rDev -34.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

2010 vintage poured into a snifter:

Pours a deep pumpkin orange with a finger of off-white head that falls over within minutes. Decent lacing. The nose is still pretty aggressive. Big boozy licorice with a bit of dark wood and raisin. On the tongue, this is just sherry and not much else. Confusingly oxidized for its age and comes across way hotter than 14 percent. Mouthfeel is fine but overall the beer is disappointing. "The World’s Most Extraordinary Beverage"? Extra ordinary, not extraordinary.

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Photo of ronniebruner
4.25/5  rDev +13%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Wow! What a great brew! The beer pours a beautiful orange and gold color with a perfectly clear tinge. Not alot of head or lace, just a good old fashioned, high alcohol beer here! The aroma is sweet and smells of fermented grains and sweet alcohol, with a nice bit of singe to the note. The beer has a nice taste of grains and alcohol and really warms up as it is going down. Leaves a wonderful slight burn on the tongue and is a very worthy contender in my book as one of the top 10 beers I have tried, without a doubt. A bit expensive, but worth every penny.

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Photo of ao125
4.24/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Let me tell you a tale of four beers.

Once upon a time, there was a 4 pack of beers bottled in 2007. They had a pink label and said "Malt Liquor" on the outside. They were put aside and forgotten about.

A year later, the first beer (drank in 2008) tasted like alcoholic Kool-Aid. It was almost a drain pour - but I suffered through it because my palate was unrefined. The "Malt Liquor" label was appropriate.

The second beer (drank in 2010) was more refined. It tasted less like rubbing alcohol and more like cherries and malt. It too needed time to mature. Its two remaining brothers were put aside.

The third beer was called upon (drank in 2012) and it had come into its own. Served in a Brugse Zot glass; it boasted of intense malt, dark fruits, and a less intense (but still present) alcoholic bite. There were hints of caramel and butterscotch. A beer that changed in many ways as it warmed.

The final beer waits for good times ahead.

This is without a doubt, a beer that needs time to come into its own, and a lot of it. Is it worth the wait? Only time will tell - but so far, it has been very telling.

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Photo of Doppelbockulus
4.11/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

2007 Vintage poured into the Naked People special edition Duvel glass.

Pours a wonderful rosy color, ver transparent and no head. There is a light stream of bubbles rising from the bottom. I think this is the best LOOKING beer I have had so far.

Smells like candied fruits, peanut shells, and barbeque sauce, I suppose that would be a faint vinegar character. Stir it a bit to get some fizz and it resembles the scent of a saison. You could compare the nose to a brandy.

Yep, tastes like a lighter Samichlaus. Flavor is a bit woody and resembles a fruit cake that is wet with a nice rum or whiskey. After taste is dryer with a more grainy malt afterthought.

It feels slightly more tingly than the appearance would suggest and a bit dryer than the smell would suggest. But it is clean, delicate, and warming.

Over all, don't let it warm up too much, it is better cooler, not old, but certainly not as warm as some other beers. Very similar to some of the other classic long term cellar beers

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Photo of WankelEngine
3.54/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a Duvel tulip

A: A vigorous pour only yields half a finger of off-white head which fades within the minute leaving no lacing. The beer itself is a clear, amber hue.

S: Smells very sweet and malty. There are notes of toffee, roasted nuts. Also some grape and raisins. As it warms, raisin is actually the most potent part of the smell.

T: Incredibly sweet. Almost overwhelming malty. Toasted malts, caramel and figs. Big alcohol content provides a little heat but is covered well by all the sugar. Apple and raisins.

M: Moderately thick with very little carbonation. Slick and sticky.

O: The sweetness of this beer is almost overwhelming. Tons of raisin and alcohol makes this beer definitely a sipper.

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Photo of mindspin315
4.05/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

No head whatsoever (although not much expected at 14%). No lacing at all either. Clear light orange-ish amber body with lots of yeast floaties.

Big sweet boozy alcohol nose. Figs, golden raisins, apple juice, apple skins, syrupy sugary notes, and sherry.

Very sweet fruitiness on the palate right away. Big alcohol heat calms down the sweet flavors midway, but doesn't take them away. Fruit flavors come through big in the finish. Flavors of honey, apple skin, sherry, and figs coated in sugar. Very sweet and boozy. The alcohol and sweetness play off each other quite well. Very very low carbonation, barely even detectable.

A very interesting beer. Drinks like a mead, sherry, and beer hybrid. Good beer to have as a night cap.

[88/100]

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Photo of brentk56
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 bottling

Appearance: Pours a clear amber color with a modest cap that leaves a web of lace

Smell: Caramel and rum-soaked figs; rather boozy aroma

Taste: Caramel and fig, with a building alcohol flavor developing by mid-palate; sweet and fruity in the finish

Mouthfeel: Full-bodied with low to moderate carbonation; plenty of warmth in the gullet

Overall: Really rather sweet but I enjoyed the flavor profile

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Photo of Pintofbrown
4.06/5  rDev +8%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I served the 2007 vintage in a glass stein.

Appearance- No foam to be found here. There is a small bit of white fizz in one corner of the stein. This one has a transparent copper body. Meh.

Smell- Holy raisin bomb! Raisin is packed on top of more raisin. There is also a bready / rye quality. I will admit it is really one note in nature, but I love it!

Taste- The palate follows the nose almost exactly. Tons of raisin almost overwhelms me. After I get over the shock of this extremely sweet beer, I can make out some chocolate in the finish.

There are also some brandy in the mix, have to expect that in a 14% drink. Just, this is really incredibly sweet.

Mouth feel- This beer is medium bodied and extremely slick. It is not creamy or carbonated at all. Oh, and don't forget sticky! I feel like I have been drinking straight maple syrup.

Overall- I really enjoy sweeter offerings, but this is almost too much. I would prefer it if it had more to offer than the heavy raisin. Because this is a good beer, and I can almost imagine how this would be if it were to make the leap to great.

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Photo of ncketchum
3.5/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2007 Vintage served in a Duvel Tulip

A - pours a dark orange with lots of sediment/floaters. Very quickly dissipating minimal head.

S - aroma is fruity, almost a fruit punch - orange, lemon, cherries, a hint of booziness, much more booziness as it warms

T - taste is almost cognac with a splash of maraschino cherry juice, lots of alcohol burn

M - Thick, minimal carbonation

D - Definitely a sipper. I wasn't sure what to expect, as I've been holding on to this one for some time. Nothing like I'm used to, as above, more a cognac than a beer for me. I could see enjoying this one maybe once a year on St. Nick's Day (eve?), and next year, maybe splitting the bottle...

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Photo of WYVYRN527
3.9/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thank you Brad Beerguy for supplying this one. 2007 Vintage. Pours a rich golden color with little head and some serious haze. Smell is all booze at first, but opens up to caramel and toffee malt character. Hops don't give their presence until a sip is taken. For how boozy this beer it is it is very well-balanced. All is toned down by a sweet, caramel malt profile and some serious floral hop notes at the end. This stuff is very tasty. Not a session beer, as one will do in a given night. Worth trying though. I want more.

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Photo of crossovert
3.39/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Have been searching for this one for awhile. Never bought it then suddenly it disappeared everywhere. Got a single bottle of it. Bottles in 2010.

It pours a beautiful color, a bright, vibrant, shining clear honeyish/orangeish amber. The head it tightly-foamed and white. Leaves a bit of lacing. Lots of small carbonation bubbles. A beauty of a beer appearance-wise.

The smell is good. It is a bit mead-like. Some definite apple and honey along with sweet, bready malt and alcohol.

Flavor is big and sweet. Like the regular Samichlaus. I think the less-octane Eggenberg beers are better. They just have to find a way to cut the sweetness just a bit.

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Photo of FosterJM
3.42/5  rDev -9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

943rd Review on BA
Bottle to Weizen Glass
12 oz

2007 Bottling

Purchased from: Mass Bev, Lawrence, KS

App- A good bit of a dark apple juice color with a little bit of gold/yellow if you will. A small impish 1/2 finger head presented and faded quickly. No cling or lace. A good bit of floaties in the glass.

Smell- Much like a mead in strength with a lot of malt and sweetness behind it. The sweetness and ABV really comes out easily even for a 4 year old bottle. A little bit of honey, vanilla, and oak from the aging.

Taste- This is more along the lines of what 120 felt like. A gigantic malt bomb with a little sweetness behind it. Another example of a bottle I am glad is 12 oz. This was sweet, malty, booze and a little one sided. Tasted pretty good but needed little sips to get through it.

Mouth- Medium bodied and a medium low carbonation. A bit harsh smooth with a duality of malt and sweet battling for rights to the palate on this one.

Drink- Overall, I felt this was a pretty average attempt at a beer with some age. Yes the ABV is well above normal, but needs more smooth vs. harsh and more flavor besides sweet. I am glad this was on sale when I got in KS. No need for full retail on this bottle.

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Photo of Gobigvt7
3.97/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

lager-colored and crystal clear with a quickly disappearing white head with no residual lacing.

a bready nose with brown sugar overtones, bit-o-honey and not much else.

caramel and burnt toffee, brown sugar and booze. Some german hops that are getting absolutely killed by the heavy malt bill. Hot, hot, hot. Tastes like candy. A little vanilla, maybe, from the aging.

Definitely cloying, heavy and boozy. Coats the mouth and kills the palate of everything but sugar.

Woohoo, this beer is a feat of beer engineering, with its high abv and barrel aging process. It's a little too one, note, but once you start getting into the 14+%, it's hard not to be incredibly sweet, especially for a helles style. I wouldn't drink more than one, but it's not a drain pour. I kinda dig.

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Photo of Klym
3.88/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a small taster glass.

Had to grab this when I saw the bottling date (2007). Was skeptical on the pour as big wafts of a very alcohol-dominated wine smell came my way. Still a nice small had forms and some champagne like bubbles throughout. Smell is very dark fruit with a hint of wine-like alcohol and a tad of honey sweetness. The taste is very sweet with again, wine-like heat that reaches the nose. Body is thick, almost syrupy with a hint of carbonation throughout. Overall you still get tons of darkfruit character, a very nice doppelbock profile. On the whole I would rate this very much worth trying.

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Photo of kgotcher
3.83/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a small serving glass. light amber color with a dense but thin head.

Aroma is coying, clove, alchohol, dark fruity esters, prune.

Taste is sweet with a very slick mouthfeel. Almost like a mead wine. I actually taste honey as one of the flavors. Nothing harsh as I may have expected from the 14%abv. Actually the alc is cleverly hidden although not invisible. It just does not really come across like a beer.

Definately an adventure from the typical beer experience. Surprisingly enjoyable given the alcholic content. You could get really happy on a couple of these.

Not sure how to rate this beer since BA has it in the Doublebock catagory. It is not a doublebock in the traditional sense at all. It is a double helles maybe, but that does not really exist. I would say it is a strong lager and a good one at that.

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Photo of Bitterbill
3.85/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled in 2007.

Very deep golden coloured brew, it has a very small head of foam that is pretty much just lacing, and that's shrinking quickly.

I smelling a lot of caramel malt sweetness, yes toasted malt as it says on the label, and a lot of alcohol. I'm getting some warming just smelling it.

The taste *is* intensely sweet along with some toasted flavours that are pretty well hidden by that sweet factor. Hmm..I dig how malty it is though it is on my threshold of how sweet a beer can be and I can still enjoy it. I gotta say that though there's plenty of warming, the alcohol isn't that obvious in the taste. I'm enjoying every sip I take..

I'd call it full bodied with fairly light carbonation though that seems to vary with every sip; I'll call it on the high end of light.

An enjoyable sipper for the 1 bottle. No way would I have another even if I *had* another bottle at my disposal.;^)

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Photo of samie85
2.5/5  rDev -33.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

2007 Vintage.

A-Pours a slightly red hued medium brown color with a quarter finger of white head that quickly dissipates.

S-Smells of huge, sweet alcohol with some dark fruit notes.

T-Almost sickly sweet and boozy with dark fruit and very light bitterness with alcohol on the finish.

M-Syrupy and sticky feel with very low carbonation and a pretty full body.

D-This one is so sweet and almost hard to get down. Almost medicinal in its taste , its not nearly as palatable as its sibling: the regular Samichlaus.

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Photo of kawilliams81
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a 16 oz. snifter.

A- Light copper in color with little-to-no head or lacing.

S- Sweet candi sugar, booze, dark fruits, leather.

T- Candi sugar and alcohol very present off the bat. Dark fruits are present in the middle and finish along with more sweet and alcohol.

M- Medium bodied, which is surprising for 14%. Fairly smooth for the abv, and leaves you with a slight tingling/effervesence finish.

O- Very different beer. It's so sweet and is almost difficult to drink the whole bottle. Although it is a 07' vintage, and drinks smooth for the abv.

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Photo of JerryOdom
3.72/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

As advertised on the bottle this guy is intense in it's sweetness. For me it was like an overly sweet candy so much so that it masked the alcohol you'd expect to experience in a 15% abv drink. I'd rate it lower if it weren't exactly what the brewer was aiming for but I can't be too generous because it's not for me. They really mean it when they say intense sweetness so if you're not a candy sort of person pass on this.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
4.1/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a snifter)
2010 on bottle
A- This beer pours a crystal clear deep orange hue with a bubbly snow white head and a good carbonation of microbubbles

S- The smell of fresh sweet pale malt and wort has a bit of a husky note to it and a yeasty ester finish that smells like pencil lead.

T- The big sweet candy wort has some fruity ester character to follow and a dry finish. There is a hone malt sweetness and a touch of bitterness in the finish that come through as the beer warms.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a very warm alcohol character in the finish.

O- The big sweetness and big alcohol balance into a delicious beer candy with nice fresh wort flavors. As the beer warms a bit too much it gets fusel heat but that is only the last few sips.

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Photo of BierFan
3.97/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from an 11.2 ounce bottle.

Thin head that disappears almost completely in about a minute. Bronze colored body. Tons of caramel in the nose. Taste of caramel, grape skin, and a little bit of apple. Kinda tart in the finish. The alcohol is there but not as noticeable as you would expect from a 14% beer.

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Photo of Wetpaperbag
4.2/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2007 vintage

First off, this one popped open with some super fizz. I wonder if this has any infection.

A- The head faded quickly, with no activity in the glass. The beer itself is crystal clear. Looks like that of a great port that has just the slightest pink tone to it.

S- Dark fruits, port, various fruity wine, subtle alcohol.

T- This is sweet tasting. Tastes just like a sweet wine mixed with a port. That truly is how this one stacks up. There is a small carbonation to this, and it helps the flavors along. The alcohol does have a good burn for sure, like spicy salsa on the lips.

M- Good feel, not too thick, but just the right feel.

O- Tasty, great flavors, lots of complexity. I'm glad I picked this up. I'll have to pick up another one when I get the chance.

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Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.6/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I've had the dark Samichlaus sitting at home in Sydney for a while, but it is yet to be reviewed. I would have liked to have tried it first, but I picked up the Helles in San Francisco and it didn't make the cut to come back in my luggage.

Hence, I'll drink it now.

Pours a hot and still devilish orange colour, with bubbling only because I forced a very aggressive pour. After these fizzle out it sits entirely flat and dormant in the glass. Looks very dangerous.

Nose is malty and sweet, with a twang of chemical acetone and a boozy note like brandy-soaked dried fruit. Smells extremely spiritous, heavy and malevolent. I think this will be a challenge to my bruised palate.

Taste is surprisingly supple and smooth, and doesn't have the spiritous alcohol burn I feared. Instead, it's just incredibly sweet and heavy, with the alcoholic flavour providing the balance in what other styles would be given by hop bitterness. Very port-like, smooth front, big vinous sweetness and a flick of booze in the tail.

Feel is very smooth and coating, but surprisingly slick as well.

Still, this is a beer of which it is difficult to drink more than a very small glass. Even without the potential burn, it's incredibly heavy and potent.

Yes, it's something I'm glad I tried, and I'll look forward to comparing it to the original Samichlaus—but I'm pleased the experience is over.

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Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
3.76 out of 5 based on 412 ratings.
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