Samichlaus Bier Helles | Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

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Samichlaus Bier HellesSamichlaus Bier Helles

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Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg

Style: Doppelbock

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 14.00%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by mikesgroove on 11-25-2007

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Photo of WankelEngine
3.54/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a Duvel tulip

A: A vigorous pour only yields half a finger of off-white head which fades within the minute leaving no lacing. The beer itself is a clear, amber hue.

S: Smells very sweet and malty. There are notes of toffee, roasted nuts. Also some grape and raisins. As it warms, raisin is actually the most potent part of the smell.

T: Incredibly sweet. Almost overwhelming malty. Toasted malts, caramel and figs. Big alcohol content provides a little heat but is covered well by all the sugar. Apple and raisins.

M: Moderately thick with very little carbonation. Slick and sticky.

O: The sweetness of this beer is almost overwhelming. Tons of raisin and alcohol makes this beer definitely a sipper.

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Photo of mindspin315
4.05/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

No head whatsoever (although not much expected at 14%). No lacing at all either. Clear light orange-ish amber body with lots of yeast floaties.

Big sweet boozy alcohol nose. Figs, golden raisins, apple juice, apple skins, syrupy sugary notes, and sherry.

Very sweet fruitiness on the palate right away. Big alcohol heat calms down the sweet flavors midway, but doesn't take them away. Fruit flavors come through big in the finish. Flavors of honey, apple skin, sherry, and figs coated in sugar. Very sweet and boozy. The alcohol and sweetness play off each other quite well. Very very low carbonation, barely even detectable.

A very interesting beer. Drinks like a mead, sherry, and beer hybrid. Good beer to have as a night cap.


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Photo of brentk56
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 bottling

Appearance: Pours a clear amber color with a modest cap that leaves a web of lace

Smell: Caramel and rum-soaked figs; rather boozy aroma

Taste: Caramel and fig, with a building alcohol flavor developing by mid-palate; sweet and fruity in the finish

Mouthfeel: Full-bodied with low to moderate carbonation; plenty of warmth in the gullet

Overall: Really rather sweet but I enjoyed the flavor profile

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Photo of Pintofbrown
4.06/5  rDev +8%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I served the 2007 vintage in a glass stein.

Appearance- No foam to be found here. There is a small bit of white fizz in one corner of the stein. This one has a transparent copper body. Meh.

Smell- Holy raisin bomb! Raisin is packed on top of more raisin. There is also a bready / rye quality. I will admit it is really one note in nature, but I love it!

Taste- The palate follows the nose almost exactly. Tons of raisin almost overwhelms me. After I get over the shock of this extremely sweet beer, I can make out some chocolate in the finish.

There are also some brandy in the mix, have to expect that in a 14% drink. Just, this is really incredibly sweet.

Mouth feel- This beer is medium bodied and extremely slick. It is not creamy or carbonated at all. Oh, and don't forget sticky! I feel like I have been drinking straight maple syrup.

Overall- I really enjoy sweeter offerings, but this is almost too much. I would prefer it if it had more to offer than the heavy raisin. Because this is a good beer, and I can almost imagine how this would be if it were to make the leap to great.

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Photo of ncketchum
3.5/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2007 Vintage served in a Duvel Tulip

A - pours a dark orange with lots of sediment/floaters. Very quickly dissipating minimal head.

S - aroma is fruity, almost a fruit punch - orange, lemon, cherries, a hint of booziness, much more booziness as it warms

T - taste is almost cognac with a splash of maraschino cherry juice, lots of alcohol burn

M - Thick, minimal carbonation

D - Definitely a sipper. I wasn't sure what to expect, as I've been holding on to this one for some time. Nothing like I'm used to, as above, more a cognac than a beer for me. I could see enjoying this one maybe once a year on St. Nick's Day (eve?), and next year, maybe splitting the bottle...

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Photo of WYVYRN527
3.9/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thank you Brad Beerguy for supplying this one. 2007 Vintage. Pours a rich golden color with little head and some serious haze. Smell is all booze at first, but opens up to caramel and toffee malt character. Hops don't give their presence until a sip is taken. For how boozy this beer it is it is very well-balanced. All is toned down by a sweet, caramel malt profile and some serious floral hop notes at the end. This stuff is very tasty. Not a session beer, as one will do in a given night. Worth trying though. I want more.

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Photo of crossovert
3.39/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Have been searching for this one for awhile. Never bought it then suddenly it disappeared everywhere. Got a single bottle of it. Bottles in 2010.

It pours a beautiful color, a bright, vibrant, shining clear honeyish/orangeish amber. The head it tightly-foamed and white. Leaves a bit of lacing. Lots of small carbonation bubbles. A beauty of a beer appearance-wise.

The smell is good. It is a bit mead-like. Some definite apple and honey along with sweet, bready malt and alcohol.

Flavor is big and sweet. Like the regular Samichlaus. I think the less-octane Eggenberg beers are better. They just have to find a way to cut the sweetness just a bit.

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Photo of FosterJM
3.42/5  rDev -9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

943rd Review on BA
Bottle to Weizen Glass
12 oz

2007 Bottling

Purchased from: Mass Bev, Lawrence, KS

App- A good bit of a dark apple juice color with a little bit of gold/yellow if you will. A small impish 1/2 finger head presented and faded quickly. No cling or lace. A good bit of floaties in the glass.

Smell- Much like a mead in strength with a lot of malt and sweetness behind it. The sweetness and ABV really comes out easily even for a 4 year old bottle. A little bit of honey, vanilla, and oak from the aging.

Taste- This is more along the lines of what 120 felt like. A gigantic malt bomb with a little sweetness behind it. Another example of a bottle I am glad is 12 oz. This was sweet, malty, booze and a little one sided. Tasted pretty good but needed little sips to get through it.

Mouth- Medium bodied and a medium low carbonation. A bit harsh smooth with a duality of malt and sweet battling for rights to the palate on this one.

Drink- Overall, I felt this was a pretty average attempt at a beer with some age. Yes the ABV is well above normal, but needs more smooth vs. harsh and more flavor besides sweet. I am glad this was on sale when I got in KS. No need for full retail on this bottle.

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Photo of Gobigvt7
3.97/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

lager-colored and crystal clear with a quickly disappearing white head with no residual lacing.

a bready nose with brown sugar overtones, bit-o-honey and not much else.

caramel and burnt toffee, brown sugar and booze. Some german hops that are getting absolutely killed by the heavy malt bill. Hot, hot, hot. Tastes like candy. A little vanilla, maybe, from the aging.

Definitely cloying, heavy and boozy. Coats the mouth and kills the palate of everything but sugar.

Woohoo, this beer is a feat of beer engineering, with its high abv and barrel aging process. It's a little too one, note, but once you start getting into the 14+%, it's hard not to be incredibly sweet, especially for a helles style. I wouldn't drink more than one, but it's not a drain pour. I kinda dig.

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Photo of Klym
3.88/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a small taster glass.

Had to grab this when I saw the bottling date (2007). Was skeptical on the pour as big wafts of a very alcohol-dominated wine smell came my way. Still a nice small had forms and some champagne like bubbles throughout. Smell is very dark fruit with a hint of wine-like alcohol and a tad of honey sweetness. The taste is very sweet with again, wine-like heat that reaches the nose. Body is thick, almost syrupy with a hint of carbonation throughout. Overall you still get tons of darkfruit character, a very nice doppelbock profile. On the whole I would rate this very much worth trying.

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Photo of kgotcher
3.83/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a small serving glass. light amber color with a dense but thin head.

Aroma is coying, clove, alchohol, dark fruity esters, prune.

Taste is sweet with a very slick mouthfeel. Almost like a mead wine. I actually taste honey as one of the flavors. Nothing harsh as I may have expected from the 14%abv. Actually the alc is cleverly hidden although not invisible. It just does not really come across like a beer.

Definately an adventure from the typical beer experience. Surprisingly enjoyable given the alcholic content. You could get really happy on a couple of these.

Not sure how to rate this beer since BA has it in the Doublebock catagory. It is not a doublebock in the traditional sense at all. It is a double helles maybe, but that does not really exist. I would say it is a strong lager and a good one at that.

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Photo of Bitterbill
3.85/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled in 2007.

Very deep golden coloured brew, it has a very small head of foam that is pretty much just lacing, and that's shrinking quickly.

I smelling a lot of caramel malt sweetness, yes toasted malt as it says on the label, and a lot of alcohol. I'm getting some warming just smelling it.

The taste *is* intensely sweet along with some toasted flavours that are pretty well hidden by that sweet factor. Hmm..I dig how malty it is though it is on my threshold of how sweet a beer can be and I can still enjoy it. I gotta say that though there's plenty of warming, the alcohol isn't that obvious in the taste. I'm enjoying every sip I take..

I'd call it full bodied with fairly light carbonation though that seems to vary with every sip; I'll call it on the high end of light.

An enjoyable sipper for the 1 bottle. No way would I have another even if I *had* another bottle at my disposal.;^)

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Photo of samie85
2.5/5  rDev -33.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

2007 Vintage.

A-Pours a slightly red hued medium brown color with a quarter finger of white head that quickly dissipates.

S-Smells of huge, sweet alcohol with some dark fruit notes.

T-Almost sickly sweet and boozy with dark fruit and very light bitterness with alcohol on the finish.

M-Syrupy and sticky feel with very low carbonation and a pretty full body.

D-This one is so sweet and almost hard to get down. Almost medicinal in its taste , its not nearly as palatable as its sibling: the regular Samichlaus.

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Photo of kawilliams81
4/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served in a 16 oz. snifter.

A- Light copper in color with little-to-no head or lacing.

S- Sweet candi sugar, booze, dark fruits, leather.

T- Candi sugar and alcohol very present off the bat. Dark fruits are present in the middle and finish along with more sweet and alcohol.

M- Medium bodied, which is surprising for 14%. Fairly smooth for the abv, and leaves you with a slight tingling/effervesence finish.

O- Very different beer. It's so sweet and is almost difficult to drink the whole bottle. Although it is a 07' vintage, and drinks smooth for the abv.

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Photo of JerryOdom
3.72/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

As advertised on the bottle this guy is intense in it's sweetness. For me it was like an overly sweet candy so much so that it masked the alcohol you'd expect to experience in a 15% abv drink. I'd rate it lower if it weren't exactly what the brewer was aiming for but I can't be too generous because it's not for me. They really mean it when they say intense sweetness so if you're not a candy sort of person pass on this.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
4.1/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a snifter)
2010 on bottle
A- This beer pours a crystal clear deep orange hue with a bubbly snow white head and a good carbonation of microbubbles

S- The smell of fresh sweet pale malt and wort has a bit of a husky note to it and a yeasty ester finish that smells like pencil lead.

T- The big sweet candy wort has some fruity ester character to follow and a dry finish. There is a hone malt sweetness and a touch of bitterness in the finish that come through as the beer warms.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a very warm alcohol character in the finish.

O- The big sweetness and big alcohol balance into a delicious beer candy with nice fresh wort flavors. As the beer warms a bit too much it gets fusel heat but that is only the last few sips.

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Photo of BierFan
3.97/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from an 11.2 ounce bottle.

Thin head that disappears almost completely in about a minute. Bronze colored body. Tons of caramel in the nose. Taste of caramel, grape skin, and a little bit of apple. Kinda tart in the finish. The alcohol is there but not as noticeable as you would expect from a 14% beer.

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Photo of Wetpaperbag
4.2/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2007 vintage

First off, this one popped open with some super fizz. I wonder if this has any infection.

A- The head faded quickly, with no activity in the glass. The beer itself is crystal clear. Looks like that of a great port that has just the slightest pink tone to it.

S- Dark fruits, port, various fruity wine, subtle alcohol.

T- This is sweet tasting. Tastes just like a sweet wine mixed with a port. That truly is how this one stacks up. There is a small carbonation to this, and it helps the flavors along. The alcohol does have a good burn for sure, like spicy salsa on the lips.

M- Good feel, not too thick, but just the right feel.

O- Tasty, great flavors, lots of complexity. I'm glad I picked this up. I'll have to pick up another one when I get the chance.

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Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.6/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I've had the dark Samichlaus sitting at home in Sydney for a while, but it is yet to be reviewed. I would have liked to have tried it first, but I picked up the Helles in San Francisco and it didn't make the cut to come back in my luggage.

Hence, I'll drink it now.

Pours a hot and still devilish orange colour, with bubbling only because I forced a very aggressive pour. After these fizzle out it sits entirely flat and dormant in the glass. Looks very dangerous.

Nose is malty and sweet, with a twang of chemical acetone and a boozy note like brandy-soaked dried fruit. Smells extremely spiritous, heavy and malevolent. I think this will be a challenge to my bruised palate.

Taste is surprisingly supple and smooth, and doesn't have the spiritous alcohol burn I feared. Instead, it's just incredibly sweet and heavy, with the alcoholic flavour providing the balance in what other styles would be given by hop bitterness. Very port-like, smooth front, big vinous sweetness and a flick of booze in the tail.

Feel is very smooth and coating, but surprisingly slick as well.

Still, this is a beer of which it is difficult to drink more than a very small glass. Even without the potential burn, it's incredibly heavy and potent.

Yes, it's something I'm glad I tried, and I'll look forward to comparing it to the original Samichlaus—but I'm pleased the experience is over.

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Photo of bobhits
2.02/5  rDev -46.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 1 | overall: 2

Pours a lighter reddish color. At first I think it could be another amazingly clear beer, but this is cloudy and has some floaters, good thing considering this is a 2007 bottle. There was a very cheap white head that vanished in moments.

The hop profile here is a bit….bad for the malt mix. It just starts off sour and wrong. A bit of air and the malt takes back control and the hops are long gone. Still redish off putting smell. Earthy hops and cheap pale malts. With some air on it a bit better, still a sweet mess of aromas and alcohol with an odd hop finish i don't like.

This is a new type of beer to me. Not the English barely wine I’ve had and yet doesn’t really come off as say an imperial pale. Alcohol earthy and sharp hops and a bland as the world could be malt. I like (forget who said this) but the comment about this being like rock candy in the malt. It’s sweet, it isn’t really sugar cane clean, but darn rock candy is about as close as you can get.

Thick, a touch of carbonation, and even at over 3 years of age still alcohol dominate.

This bottle was about 5 dollars. I cannot express how over priced that is given this beers qualities. The classic Samichlaus has many qualities that make me certain age will improve it. It has some darn nice effects. This is just alcohol and sweetness to say “look how big I am.” The reason this beer was last brewed and bottled in the 80’s is because there wasn’t anyone begging for more.

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Photo of Knapp85
3.1/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This has a pretty surprising color for a Doppelbock, This beer has a very nice honey golden color with a head that fades rather quickley. The 14% abv is hardly hidden in my opinion. It's a strong tasting beer, as it should be I just don't know how much I enjoy the flavors the Helles gives off. The mouthfeel of this is on the thicker side. Nothing too heavy but not watery either. Personally i like the darker version much better but thats in the eye of the beholder.

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Photo of AmericanGothic
4.35/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

11.2 oz bottle poured into Unibroue tulip. 2007 vintage.

A Beautiful light amber honey color. Lively carbonation, two finger off-white head subsides slowly. Barely any lace.

S: Mellow yeasty bread notes, sweet, dark fruits.

T: Oh, wow. Is this beer, or port? Fantastic sweetness balanced by fruits (raisins, prunes, a little banana and currants) and some accompanying spice-- cinnamon and clove. Delicious, light caramel. Alcohol present but not objectionable.

M: Just enough carbonation to remind you this is truly beer, medium body, smooth, slightly oily.

D: A slow sipper for sure, no hurry to go through this, will last a while.

An old friend raves and raves about this, so I had to try it. Good recommendation, for my tastebuds. Intense, but refined. If you want to know what beer tastes like 5,000 feet above barleywine, this is it.

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Photo of Wasatch
4.5/5  rDev +19.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to Hojaminbag for this brew.

11.2 oz. Bottle
Bottled In: 2007

Pours a very nice clean/clear golden color, very nice carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, with some nice sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, sweet, nice little spice note, and caramel. The taste is sweet, malty, alittle spicy, with some nice caramel notes. Medium Body. Very Drinkable, this one is very tasty, a true delight. Thanks Ben.

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Photo of plfahey
3.31/5  rDev -12%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

12 oz. bottle poured into a tulip glass.

Appearance-Medium gold color, brilliant clarity. Very thin off-white head with low retention. Shows some legs.

Aroma-Pale, bready malts. Very light dried fruit (raisins) aroma and whiff of alcohol.

Flavor-Rich malt and fruit flavors-sweet up front with notes of bread and toast. Raisins, plums, and other fruit flavors definitely present. Alcohol presence is large, and is at times hot/solventy.

Mouthfeel-Medium full, moderately low carbonation. Definite alcohol warmth.

This one might smooth out after a couple years, but fresh, the alcohol is just too hot. Boozy, and not very sneaky about it. There are some good notes, but the alcohol is too much.

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Photo of bonkers
3.23/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I poured from a 11.2 ounce bottle, 2009, into a snifter. The color is medium caramel with a fizzy 1 inch white head, no lacing. The aroma is sweet with lots of astringent alcohol. This beer is very sweet and has very hot alcohol, kinda out of balance. It finishes with dates and raisins. The body is medium and the carbonation is good. IMO this is a mess, too much alcohol, very overpowering. Maybe lay it down for a year, but I will not buy it again.

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Samichlaus Bier Helles from Brauerei Schloss Eggenberg
3.76 out of 5 based on 409 ratings.
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