Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Vin Jaune Barrels) | BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes)

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Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Vin Jaune Barrels)Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Vin Jaune Barrels)

Brewed by:
BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes)

Style: Bière de Garde

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.00%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by illidurit on 05-25-2009

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3.25/5  rDev -20%

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3.5/5  rDev -13.8%

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3.5/5  rDev -13.8%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.51/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to wethorseblanket for sharing this one at jmgrub's tasting.

2009 vintage.

Pours a murky orange-brown with no head. No lacing on the drink down either. Smell is slightly sour and tart with some malt, fruit, and acidic aromas. Taste is much the same with wine and wood flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of acidity on the palate with each sip. This beer has a low level of carbonation with a flat mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with an interesting barrel aged presence in the aromas and flavors.

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Photo of JAXSON
3.53/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2009 rate.

375ml bottle pours a clear, deep orange-red with a really large head and tons of tiny little bubbles rising up. Nose is beautifully sour and rich. Brett, wine, ripe strawberries, cherries. So elegant and luscious. A bit of caramel. Flavor is really, really strong on the wine, which is a bit of an oddity. Very rich and a bit sweet. Long and a bit boozy in the finish. This is so rich that it's almost a bit much. The brett kind of needs time to chew away at these sugars. I think if this were drier it would be exceptional. A tough one to rate given the disparity between nose and mouth.

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Photo of cpetrone84
3.56/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-pours a dark orangish amber color, very hazy, with a bubbly creamy very light tan head.

S-the nose is pretty solid, notes of earthiness to it with a nice amount of tartness. the tart cherries play in well, maybe a touch of acetic acid, the oak is very faint.

T-a light malt base is taken over by a strong tart cherry flavor, the vinegar is light, dry oak is present with a hint of metallic flavor in the very back with a little spiciness to it.

M-good carbonation balances a syrupy medium body with a crisp and lightly dry finish. its a little grainy on the palate but still feels soft and comfortable.

D-this is pretty straight forward and hides the alcohol very well. the sweet to tart ratio is balanced very well, not much else happening but still pretty enjoyable.

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Photo of d0ggnate
3.61/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bought this one a few months ago and thought now was as good a time as any to pop it open.

VJ2 bottled in 2009. The cap peeled of this one without even a hiss. After a less than gentle pour, I was barely able to illicit even a resemblance of carbonation. The body sits a nice red/amber color, but is very still.

The nose here is pretty good. Aromas of unripened green grapes and tart barrel qualities. Just the right whiffs of funk arise from my glass. Not too strong, but enticing instead.

On to the taste. Just as it appears, it falls a bit flat. Very wine-like with hints of brown sugar. Noticeable alcohol warming effect as I swish this one down. Reminds me of drinking a glass of wine. Strange to think of beer that way, but I feel like this is wine.

Mouthfeel is lacking, but still palate coating. The flavors cover my mouth and last for minutes at a time. This is my first Bon Chien Grand Cru. I'd love to try the others. I definitely wasn't expecting it to be like this. This beer is unlike most others I've had.

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Photo of vacax
3.7/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours translucent copper in color with a good amount of head retention. Strong aroma with a vinous quality, brown sugar, and light oakiness. Tastes of dark fruit, wine grapes, alcoholic with a tart finish. Medium to full in body with a lower amount of carbonation hits the mark. Pretty decent beer, but I don't seem to be as impressed as some people. Worth trying but not for the price tag.

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3.75/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

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3.75/5  rDev -7.6%

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3.75/5  rDev -7.6%

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3.75/5  rDev -7.6%

Photo of Phelps
3.78/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

No hiss when the cap is popped; hardly any head when the beer is poured. Some watery bubbles hang out at the edges of the murky maroon liquid.

Crazy nose. Barnyard funk mixed with mulled apple cider, cinnamon, pears, a hint of white vinegar. Wow.

The flavor carries a little bit of the apple cider quality as well as some increased sweet cherry notes. Funky hay, a bit of honeyed oxidation, green apple, toasted oak. Flash of cherry jolly ranchers at the swallow. Mild sourness.

Flat as a two-by-four. Medium-full body has nice heft. No noticeable alcohol. Would be much better with some bubbles.

Great flavor, great aroma. Just needs CO2.

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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.83/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottle: Poured a light reddish color ale with a large off-white foamy head with OK retention. Aroma of sour notes with some oak and cherry notes that are really dominant. Taste is also dominated by oak with some sour cherry notes, some acidity and quite a bit of vinous notes. Body is full with good carbonation and no apparent alcohol. Pretty solid sour with loads of vinous notes but maybe a tad too much acidity going on.

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Photo of DavoleBomb
3.88/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a snifter. Big thanks to SteveFinny for this and all the other versions. Never had any of these and never even heard of them. VJ2, brewed in 2009.

2.5 A: Pours a completely still, murky plum color. No evidence of carbonation.

4.5 S: Potent vinous character. Lots of sherry, which is probably a combination of slight oxidation and the barrels used. I'm wholly unfamiliar with vin jaune, so I'm not quite sure what that contributes. Anyway, the nose on this is powerful and complex past the grape components. Lactic tanginess, strong tart cherry, apple, melon, and plenty of plum. Toffee, faint raisin, plenty of oak, and vanilla.

4.0 T: The taste is intensely oaky with a strong tannic component and a moderate astringency. Again, big vinous aspects featuring sherry. Lactic tanginess and rotting wood funkiness. Tons of cherry flavor with apple, melon, and plum falling far behind. While the nose had some sweetness to it, the taste is definitely on the drier end. Light toffee. Booze is very well hidden. Tasty and complex.

2.5 M: Medium body. While this isn't horrible without carbonation (probably due to the grape influence), it still suffers for it. Feels pretty much like a heavier wine.

4.0 D: I enjoyed this quite a bit. Super complex and tasty. The astringency lowers the drinkibility, but all in all this is a good beer.

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3.88/5  rDev -4.4%

Photo of Ciocanelu
3.9/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Hazy dark amber color with no head. Aroma is quite interesting, like a flanders ale mixed with lambic. Slight acetic notes and farmhouse funk. Taste starts with balsamic vinegar acidity, sour fruits like cherries and raspberries, dry, red wine. There is some barrel character but I get only the wood, no extra complexity. Medium to light bodied, medium to high carbonation. It's quite good but not very different from the standard version.

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Photo of JohnGalt1
3.9/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Ditmier (Eric) poured this one on Friday night.. I'm glad I took good notes, because with some later pours, he was starting to make me question what I was tasting. Eric.. It does NOT taste like cocktail onions. :-)

Hazy dark gold/orange ... foamy head with good lace and only descent retention.

Nose lends itself to peaches and only mildly sour.. a little vineous... mild oak.. a little musty as it warms up with later pours.

The flavor is much more oakey.. and the same white peach essence seems to dominate.. a little lactic elements add some sour and tends to dry it out a bit. apple skin on the finish.. more tannic than sour... again a little musty.. more acetic as it warms.

I don't know... I think this one was pretty good.. certainly okay... Ditmier got inside my head. :-)

Thanks again to a fucking great BA and thanks again for another beer that was so far off my radar that I NEVER would have tried trading for it..

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3.9/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

VJ2, 2009 Bottling; Sampled December 2011
Pours mostly flat, though it manages to scare up a ring of large bubbled, amber tinged froth that hugs the sides of my Lost Abbey Teku glass. The beer is a concentrated red / amber color that shows a clear, bright amber hue when held up to the light. The aroma smells vinous, oak like and with a port or sherry like note up front that is backed by an aged, toasty maltiness towards the finish. There is a definite, though not heavy, tartness to this beer that accentuates a white wine grape like note. Fruit notes of tart raisins, sour pear / apple and some sort of distinct, but not quite placeable, musky melon like note adds some complexity and balance to the other notes. There is a toasted character here in the nose that is a product of the oak, but also from some residual malt character; the oak also contributes a spiciness to the nose that is a mix of sharp oak, white pepper and this is perhaps joined by a touch of phenolic spicy character.

Still feeling as it hits the mouth, this makes it seem light, despite it coating the palate fairly well. The finish has an oxidized, not quite cardboard like note to it as well as a spicy, lightly astringent oak character, a touch of tartness and a dry, vinous fruit character; this last reminds me of raisins (though without any sweetness), a touch of tart berry notes, a hint of oxidized apple and some red pear flavors. There is an oak presence throughout the flavor profile; a light astringency is noticed from beginning to end, there is a definite wood / oak flavor here as well and perhaps a touch of toasted oak notes, this last suggests at some toasted character from the malt.

This is much nicer than the flat BA Santa’s that I had before this; the difference (since they both are flat and barrel aged) is that this beer is balanced, no one thing (especially the barrel) is so dominant that it gets harsh or annoying. It probably helps that this beer was flat on purpose and was designed around that.

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3.93/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle either purchased at Capone's or DeCicco's I can't remember.

Appearance: Pours a slightly hazy burnt orange with a massive 4 finger dirty khaki crown that shows some retention and lace.

Smell: A touch sweet but predominantly tart and vinous. Brett like yeast (Notes of lemon and slight barnyard mustiness) is apparent but not overpowering. Not extremely complex, but not boring either.

Taste: Again like the nose the initial sip makes you think its going in the sweet direction but then you are bombarded by tartness and green grapes. A bit disjointed if you ask me. Lots of brett, white raisins, and some sweet malt. Not too much barrel in the flavor profile. Slight crushed up aspirin quality too. This is barely a 4.0 in the taste category for me. I'd give it a 3.8 if I could.

Mouthfeel: Medium bodied with ample carbonation. Probably the best category for this brew.

Drinkability: At 11% abv with a not too particularly nice taste profile I'm gonna score this one down.

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Photo of bwbetts
3.96/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of emerge077
3.97/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

As this was over $20 for the 375mL, I grabbed the one with the smallest headspace on the shelf. There was no apparent carbonation, as some others have noted, and as typical for the series. I've been reading up on the obscure Vin Jaune, and as intriguing as it was, this was a little disappointing.

Yellow orange, almost a fossilized amber color. A few large "juice bubbles" appeared when poured at a 6" height, retreating to the edge like a string of pearls. It was slightly murky and looked almost like a dark amber lambic.

Highly acetic, white wine vinegar nose, cidery, funky with musty barrel notes.

Lightly tart, red grapes, apple, some bretty/fruity intermingling. Earthy oak and damp woody mushroom. Some peppery spice from the tangible solventy alcohol. Slick and very dry in the finish.

It was potent in small doses, i'd recommend sharing a bottle if you splurge for it. Far from the best in the series, and not even an improvement over the standard issue Bon-Chien.

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Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2009 VJ2 vintage. The beer pours a reddish-amber color with no head. The aroma is heavy on the sour apples and toffee. The beer smells a lot like a heavy oaked chardonnay. The flavor is more of the same. There is some caramel malt, but the two main flavors are slightly sour apples and a lot of white wine notes. There is also some oak in the flavor. Not as sour as some of the other BFM sours I have tried. Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. A good, not great sour.

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Photo of largadeer
4/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

At $23 for 375ml, this is one of the most expensive beers I've ever bought.

This incarnation of the Bon Chein grand cru series seems to actually have carbonation, as I was greeted by a fluffy two finger head upon pouring this beer. The body itself is hazy reddish-amber, cloudier than other batches I've had, but that may be because I didn't give the sediment much time to settle before opening it.

The aroma is vinous, and, surprisingly, a bit solventy. There's light funk beneath the alcohol, but I'm amazed at how dominant the solvents are. As it warms, the booziness becomes all-consuming.

The taste is tart, fruity, vinous, and again, surprisingly boozy. I'm guessing this is the influence of the Vin Jaune barrels, because I haven't picked up much heat in other batches of this beer. Sourness is more lactic than acetic, with mild fruity sweetness adding balance. Medium-full body with fairly crisp carbonation. The finish is hot, sour and semi-dry.

This is good, but really, $23? Per oz, it's roughly twice the price of the bourbon barrel Bon Chien, and not nearly as good. Disappointing.

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4/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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Abbaye De Saint Bon-Chien Grand Cru (Aged In Vin Jaune Barrels) from BFM (Brasserie des Franches-Montagnes)
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