With Kindness
Perrin Brewing Co.

With KindnessWith Kindness
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Style:
Barleywine - English
ABV:
12.8%
Score:
87
Avg:
3.81 | pDev: 15.49%
Reviews:
13
Ratings:
88
From:
Perrin Brewing Co.
 
Michigan, United States
Avail:
Retired (no longer brewed)
Wants
  6
Gots
  50
SCORE
87
Very Good
With KindnessWith Kindness
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JohnnyHopps from Indiana

3.62/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - The beer was golden in color with a white head.

Smell - More than anything, the booze jumped out in the nose.

Taste - Hot oaky vanilla was my dominant impression. Any resemblance of the base beer has been smothered. The booze is the predominant taste.

Mouthfeel - The disgusting allowed the burn.

Overall - I expected better from this brewery.

Jun 25, 2018
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FBarber from Illinois

1.99/5  rDev -47.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Something is clearly off with this bottle (beer). My bottle was clearly in line with the reviews below that found something off.

Opened this and it smells like a cheap white wine - tart white grapes and green apples. As it warms it takes on an even more sour white trap aroma. Taste follows the nose with that vinous white trap flavor and tart green apples. Strong buttery flavor - like butterscotch - on the back end. Seems to imply an infection. NO barrel character whatsoever - Id never know this had been in a barrel if it didn't say so on the label. Feel is remarkably thin - regardless of its other issues - for the style. That would have been am issue anyway. Appearance was a light orange color - clear and effervescent. Thin orange thinned white head dissipates leaving a thick ring of white foam along the outside of the beer.

Overall - a total DUD.

Mar 05, 2017
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Dactrius from Wisconsin

4.28/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

More carbonation for a BBBW than you'd expect but it doesn't leaving any lacing. The color and murkiness is far from appealing, even if it isn't atypical for a barleywine. The aroma is clean with caramel and toffee coming through quite strongly. The flavor follows suit with more of the same, which is delicious. Hops are really restrained as you'd expect given the "English" title and the age, and that makes me happy. Bourbon is nicely integrated; even though they're not the oldest barrels they're high quality ones and it shows. I'm shocked this isn't rated more highly, and sad I didn't buy another bottle.

Jun 08, 2016
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stortore from Illinois

4.25/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

22 ounce bottle into a snifter. Bottled fall of 2015.

Pours an orange color, mostly clear, with a short head and some lacing. Smell brings malt, yeast, grapes, bourbon, vanilla, raisins, plums, some figs, some brown sugar, a little bread. Taste also leads with the malt, more bourbon than the nose, vanilla, oak, raisins, some figs, caramel, plums. This is mighty good, I like the Van Winkle barrels. Smooth, great body, taste lingers.

Good English barleywine, the barrels were pretty awesome, too. While I could pick out the traditional dark fruits in this, they weren't as intense for the style as many. Had this beginning of February, wish I had another bottle to put some age on. Well worth a purchase.

Jun 03, 2016
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TreyIsWilson from Michigan

3.89/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours a clear amber with a one finger fizzy white head. Light spotty lacing.

S - Aroma is bourbon, vanilla, plums, and toffee.

T - The flavor starts with a strong caramel sweetness followed by vanillla, honey, and bourbon. The finish has light alcohol burn.

M - Medium bodied with medium carbonation. Smooth mouthfeel with a dry finish.

O - An enjoyable English barleywine. The bourbon dominates the flavor but still enjoyable.

Mar 20, 2016
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JebBeerFish from New Hampshire

4.09/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a solid English Barleywine.

A: I think the Appearance is the primary reason this may have lower ratings. Color is unexpectedly straw yellow and not brown as most Barleywines are.

S: Sweet Vanilla, maybe a little Almond. Quite nice.

T: ABV is completely and dangerously hidden, tastes like 7 or 8%. Some barrel aging in the taste, but
could use a more pronounced barrel aging taste. Light vanilla and lighter almond in the taste with
suggestion of bourbon in the back.

F: perhaps a tad light.

O: While this is not a top 10 English Barleywine, it is an enjoyable one. This is an English Barleywine, that could be enjoyed in the height of the Summer due to it's' light sweetness and body.

Mar 13, 2016
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superspak from Ohio

3.78/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 ounce bottle into snifter, bottled in fall 2014. Pours slightly hazy deep orange/amber color with a 1 finger fairly dense off white head with good retention, that reduces to a thin cap that lingers. Light spotty soapy lacing clings on the glass, with a good amount of streaming carbonation retaining the cap. Aromas of raisin, plum, fig, pear, apricot, apple, caramel, brown sugar, vanilla, toffee, bourbon, toasted oak, light pepper/clove, and yeast/oak earthiness. Nice aromas with good complexity and solid balance of fruity/earthy yeast, dark malt, and bourbon barrel notes; with good strength. A bit too fruity/boozy in the nose. Taste of big raisin, plum, fig, pear, apricot, apple, caramel, brown sugar, toffee, vanilla, bourbon, toasted oak, light coconut, light pepper/clove, and yeast/oak earthiness. Fair amount of bourbon/oak spiciness on the finish; with lingering notes of raisin, plum, fig, apricot, apple, caramel, brown sugar, toffee, vanilla, bourbon, toasted oak, light pepper/clove, and yeast/oak earthiness on the finish for a while. Very nice complexity, robustness, and balance of fruity/earthy yeast, dark malt, and bourbon barrel flavors; with a great malt/oak spiciness balance and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Light amount of dryness present after the finish. Light-medium carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a smooth and lightly slick/sticky mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is well hidden with light-moderate warmth lingering after the finish. Overall this is a very good barrel aged English barleywine style. All around good robustness, complexity, and balance of fruity/earthy yeast, dark malt, and bourbon barrel flavors; and very smooth to sip on for the huge ABV. With a bit more body and darker malt complexity this would have been better, but was still a nicely enjoyable offering overall.

Sep 12, 2015
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StonedTrippin from Colorado

4.43/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

i would have to put this up there in the class with the best barleywines in the world. certainly one of the best i have encountered, aged 9 months in pappy barrels, pretty special. decidedly english in style, not that there isnt hops to this, but its almost entirely grain driven and has that characteristic bready bakery yeast complexion to it as well. toffee and honey and vanilla all come from the malt and the barrel, never heavy or overly sweet, but interesting and somehow delicate for how enormous this is. it doesnt stick to my teeth and feel heavy at all, its bright for what it is, even lighter in body and well carbonated for the style. i think like the stout in this little series, that allows the barrel to really come through, and why not? its such a special barrel that it makes good sense to allow for that. vanilla again, and the actual whiskey flavor in this one that may have been lost a little in the stout. it lingers forever, there is no finish, just an eventual trailing off of the malty toffee notes and the oak. really expert beer, not out of place in the summer time, but something i would love to have another bottle of for late fall. huge thanks to thebrewo for sharing this one with me, really special couple of bottles these were. cheers!

Jul 09, 2015
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StoutHunter from Michigan

3.53/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

I picked up a bottle of Perrin's With Kindness last month for $17.85 at Boyne Country Provisions. I've been thinking about trying this one, but because of the price it took me a little bit decide and I thought it was worth a shot, so lets see how it goes. 2015 Vintage. Poured from a brown 22oz bottle into teku.

A- The label looks ok, it's got an ok design, but i don't think it's too eye catching. It poured a muddy orange color that takes on more a brighter orange color when held to the light with a fingers worth of bubbly slightly off white head that died down to a thin ring that eventually faded away and it left just a little bit of spotty lacing behind. This is a nice looking beer, but I wish the color and head retention were a little better.

S- the aroma starts off with a higher amount of medium sweetness with the fruity english ale yeast being the first to show up and it imparts a stone fruit like aroma followed by a light alcohol aroma. Up next comes the barrel which imparts an even mixture of bourbon and oak aromas that are followed by the malts with some caramel and sweet malts showing up. This beer has a nice aroma, but I wish the yeast was dialed back.

T- The taste seems to be similar to the aroma with a higher amount of medium sweetness being the first to show up and it's followed by the yeast which imparts the same fruity aspects that it did in the aroma, but it's slightly lighter this time and it takes on more of apple cider like aspect. Up next comes barrel which imparts the same bourbon and oak aspect and it goes right into the malts which impart some sweet malt, caramel, toffee and light butterscotch flavors. On the finish there's just a slight bit of alcohol with pretty much not bitterness and it had a nice toffee, caramel and light barrel like aftertaste. This was a nice tasting beer, it was unique, but i wish the barrel showed up.

M- Fairly smooth, slightly crisp, a little sticky, rich, on the thicker side of being medium bodied with a lighter amount of medium carbonation. The mouthfeel was pretty nice and I thought it worked well with this beer.

Overall I thought this was a nice beer and I thought it solid and unique example of the style, but it lacked the complexity that some of the better example of the style have and that's what really held this beer back. This beer had ok drinkability, one glass is enough for me I don't have the urge to drink more than that. What I like the most about this beer is the mouthfeel, it was nice and to me that aspect was the truest to style. What I liked the least about this beer is the lack of complexity and the lighter barrel flavors, if those were both cranked up a notch this would be a pretty good beer. I don't think I would buy this beer again, it's nice to try, but it isn't worth the price. I can't say I would highly recommend this beer, but if you want something a little different for a barrel aged barleywine this might be worth checking out. All in all I still like this beer, but it has potential to be better. IT's not my favorite Perrin beer and it's just a little bit above average for style, I appreciate the effort, but i think this beer needs a little more work.

Apr 28, 2015
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amalburg from Michigan

2.63/5  rDev -31%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.75

The Smell is strange. The taste is like no other barley wine I've ever had. Bad after taste. Can't explain myself. Sorry beeradvocate. Drain pour.

Mar 29, 2015
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CB_Michigan from Illinois

2.45/5  rDev -35.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

I'm wondering if there's some serious bottle variation with this beer, because what I experienced is miles away from what some others have reported. Upon pouring, I was really excited about the beer. Nice amber color, maybe a little on the light side, but seemed inviting. Nice roasty aromas with some dried fruit, caramel, and a little vanilla. Unfortunately, the taste does not live up to the smell. It was seriously like drinking cheap whiskey watered down with seltzer. Not only does this bear no resemblance to PVW, there is no hint of the base beer, none whatsoever, nada, zip, zilch. It's just a hot alcoholic mess with an unpleasant sour/astringent finish. Mouthfeel is super thin and watery. Not at all what I was expecting from a barleywine, much less one that's been aged in bourbon barrels. Spent a little over 4 hours trying to finish this bottle and wound up pouring about 6 oz down the drain. It started off rough and got worse with additional time in the glass.

Feb 22, 2015
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GRPunk from Michigan

4.12/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

22 oz., waxed bottle from Copper Vine ($16.99), poured into a Stone IRS snifter.

A- I love the look of a waxed bottle, but despise opening them. The struggle was worth it though. After a hiss with the crack of the cap, it poured a slightly hazy, amber body with light carbonation. The head was somewhat fizzy and white, but settled out to a thin film and left nice rings.

S- Hmmm. Very wine-like, maybe the barrel-aging. Had me worried initially due to the hissing and somewhat fizzy pour. A second sniff and I get coconut and brown sugar/caramel sweetness. Definitely some warm, not quite harsh, alcohol. It wasn't super cold to begin with, but warmth leads to more of a bourbon aroma (sweet caramel and charred oak).

T- Quite complex. Caramel sweetness up front, followed by warm alcohol, woody flavors, and a gentle smokiness that combine to make for a real bourbon-like taste. Some of that coconut from the aroma, too. The hops are present (much less so than an American style barleywine that can drink like an imperial IPA) that's something of floral and herbal. A little honey at points that combines with the herbal hops, giving hints of herbal tea.

M- Full bodied with a warm alcohol presence. Light carbonation. Slightly hoppy finish leaves things pretty dry.

O- I was really intrigued by the proposition of barrel aging in this beer (due to the cult-like status of Pappy Van Winkle in part). Since everybody is doing the BA imperial stout, I chose the with Kindness barleywine instead of Them All. With the barrel aging and 12.8% ABV, it's definitely a sipper. Hearing that it drank a little "hot" right after the release, I let it age a month or two. Alcohol is there, it would be hard to hide something so big, but it's not harsh. Glad I gave it a try, would be interested to do the stout version as well.

Feb 08, 2015
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fcpsitsjaredjared from Michigan

2.02/5  rDev -47%
look: 1 | smell: 4 | taste: 1 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

22oz bottle, black wax. Drain Pour. 6 of us tried it and not a one of us was able to get through our ~3oz pour. Color is light amber, mouthfeel is thin. Nose is booze and raisin/fig. Taste is watered down bourbon, butterscotch, and very slight vinegar/sour. A waste of VW barrels.

Jan 24, 2015
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Beer rating: 87 out of 100 with 88 ratings