Collaboration Not Litigation Ale | Avery Brewing Company

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Collaboration Not Litigation AleCollaboration Not Litigation Ale
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Avery Brewing Company
Colorado, United States
averybrewing.com

Style: Belgian Strong Dark Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.72%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by FtownThrowDown on 01-23-2007

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Ratings:
1,628
Reviews:
736
Avg:
3.92
pDev:
10.2%
 
 
Wants:
44
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244
For Trade:
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Photo of emerge077
3.73/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dark reddish brown, with a skim of foam.

Not too aromatic, some spent grain and barely a citrus note. Thankfully not as phenolic as other Avery ales.

Taste is overripe grapefruit, cereal grain, earthy malt, a hint of Brett without much tartness at all. Interesting for a US brew. Mouthfeel is a little overdone, thick almost, a little cloying at first, but dries out in a bittersweet way. Evident spicing, grain of paradise/coriander seem to be present. Earthy note is reminiscient of Fantome's darker offerings.

I'll need help finishing this bomber...
Tasting Avery Salvation prior to this, I was skeptical, but eager to try the RR component so I bought it. Better than Avery's but one try is enough in my opinion.

Edit: Cellared Jan. '07 bottle consumed Nov. '08
Creamy tan head, dried orange peel nose. Body is creamy and smooth, no alcohol presence. Spicy citrus and chocolate flavors. Very earthy, nearly soil notes in the aftertaste, dry,chalky, herbal.

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Photo of oline73
4/5  rDev +2%

Photo of Phyl21ca
4/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle courtesy of Demcorhip: Poured a cloudy deep copper color ale with a nice foamy head with good retention. Aroma of sweet malt and medium funky yeast is pretty interesting. Taste of sweet malt is mix with some subtle sour notes and some light funky yeast. Body is quite full with some adequate carbonation and no alcohol was discernable. Overall, this seems like a good concept but I still think I would prefer having my own bottle of RR salvation instead of this.

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Photo of largadeer
3/5  rDev -23.5%

Photo of zeff80
4.32/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch #2. 22oz bottle poured into a St. Bernardus chalice.

A - Poured out a burgandy color with hints of orange. It had a foamy, small, off-white head that left trails of lace on the glass.

S - Smelled strongly of sweet malts. Also, dried fruit aromas (raisin & cherry). Some subtle floral notes, too.

T - This was very well balanced between sweet malt flavors and spiciness. A raisin or pear-like flavor came through. Spiciness seemed to increase as the beer warmed.

M - This was smooth and a little chewy. A medium to heavy-bodied beer.

D - This is such an interesting concept and it works quite well.

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Photo of zestar
4/5  rDev +2%

Photo of olradetbalder
4/5  rDev +2%

Photo of DrBier
3.75/5  rDev -4.3%

Photo of superspak
4.1/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

22 ounce bottle into tulip glass, bottled on 1/31/2014. Pours fairly cloudy deep orange copper color with a 1-2 finger dense light khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Nice soapy lacing clings on the glass, with a fair amount of streaming carbonation. Aromas of pear, apple, golden raisin, banana, clove, caramel, brown sugar, toast, biscuit, pepper, herbal, light nuttiness, and yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of fruity/earthy yeast and dark/bready malt sweetness; with great strength. Taste of pear, apple, golden raisin, banana, clove, caramel, brown sugar, toast, biscuit, pepper, herbal, light nuttiness, and yeast earthiness. Light earthy spiciness on the finish; with lingering notes of pear, apple, golden raisin, banana, clove, caramel, brown sugar, pepper, herbal, and yeast earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Damn nice complexity and robustness of fruity/spicy yeast and dark/bready malt flavors; with a great malt/yeast flavor balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and body; with a smooth, fairly crisp, and lightly bready mouthfeel that is very nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with minimal warming present after the finish. Overall this is an excellent Belgian strong dark ale. All around great complexity and balance of fruity/spicy yeast and dark/bready malt flavors; and very smooth to sip on for the big ABV. A very enjoyable offering.

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Photo of Thorpe429
3.85/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had on tap at the Sunset Grill outside of Boston. Excellent selection.

A: Dark orange with sort of a rusty look. Slightly cloudy with a good white head. Nice lacing.

S: Sweet with some fruit characteristics. Some of the traditional Belgian esters--I always seem to get bubblegum.

T: Sweet with candied sugar and a good deal of complexity. Some tartness. A nice malt base. Some fresh fruit flavors.

M: Good, creamy mouthfeel. Nice and smooth. I love it.

D: Highly drinkable for the style and abv. Perhaps too much for an extended sitting, but something I'm glad I can get in bottle form back here in Chicago.

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Photo of nickfl
3.88/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pours with a thick, creamy head. Settles down to a film pretty quickly and leaves behind an unusually nice laceing on the glass. Hazy reddish brown, not as dark as I might have expected, kind of looks like a flemmish brown.

S - Malty, sugary aroma... a bit of hops. Just a lot of caramel dary candy smells, and some dates or prunes; frankly, I expected a more complex aroma from these guys but maby my nose is having an off day.

T - Sugary, yeasty, with an alcoholic finish complemented with a good bit of hoppy bite.

M - Great texture! Really feels like a Belgian dark beer in that it coats the mouth and goes down smooth.

D - I really expected something more over the top on this one. As it turned out I got a very drinkable beer that captures the Tao of the Belgian strong dark style in a quiet way.

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Photo of oberon
3.65/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled in Jan 07,poured into a fish bowl glass murky tea-like color with chinks and floaties swirling about a thinner head than expected leaving only a tace amount of spotted lace as it settled rather quickly.Mild phenolic aromas hit upfront along with some sweeter bread dough and a hint of wood nothing jumps out all are a bit tame but noticable.Phenolic and spicey with an underlying woddy graininess the fruit is a bit subdued pretty dry on the palate in my mind.Although not a huge fan of the style I was craving it and this although pretty good didnt really give me my fix I was looking for.

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Photo of jlindros
3.37/5  rDev -14%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Batch #3 bottled in Feb. 2009. Poured from bomber into tulip glass.

A: Big airy head dark orange brown with a slight rosy hue and some sediment and haze

N: Nose is very reminiscent of a Belgian tripel with nice sweet malts and candi sugar as well as a slight yeasty sour fruit a little caramel and some alcohol, probably the best thing this beer has going for it IMO

T: Taste starts with dark malts and candi sugar, lots of alcohol taste, it starts like a light Belgian tripel and somewhat tasty, but goes downhilll with a strange watery yeasty off flavor thats somewhat unpleasant, it has some candi sugar but not much, its also got a strange blandness to it I can't explain, an earthy bitterness and slight raisiny taste peaks in the middle

M: It has a spicey mouthfeel and lots of carbonation

F: Finish is spicey and that same earthy bitter that leaves a very unpleasant taste in the mouth, it also finishes bitter and lots of alcohol that seems to magnify the bad bitter taste that seems to come from a wild or crazy yeast strain

Final thoughts: THe beer starts good but seems to get that strange wild-saison-like taste that is pretty unpleasant after the Belgian tripel. I remember the last batch being better than this I think. I could see some people liking this one, but its not for me, its even hard to continue drinking it, the unpleasant finish makes me want to keep drinking it to get the good start that will go over the finish.

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3.75/5  rDev -4.3%

Photo of NeroFiddled
4.5/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Well here's a winner!

Not unlike my usual self, I poured this beer without knowing what it was. I noted the huge frothy head of yellowish foam and the slightly hazy (I was careful with the pour of the long-standing bottle) amber/copper body. As I raised it to my nose however, my eyes must have popped open wide! Brettanomyces!? How could it be? I had to look at the label. I thought it was a collaboration with Left Hand (even the cross-cut saw at the bottom of the label seems to indicate that...) but then I noticed the bottle of Russian River on the right hand side. I took a sip... heaven!!! And that's why my review starts with the first words that popped into my head... "Well here's a winner"!

After I started writing this I had to read the label, and learned - as you no doubt already know - that it's a blend of Salvation from both breweries. Vinnie's of course stands out, but the rich malt base of Avery's makes it something completely different. I thought of a comparison to the sweetened versions of Flemish Red, but that passed quickly as they're completely different - as is this beer! Another American original? Perhaps.

The nose is not nearly as full and rich as the flavor, and expresses more of the clean, tart and metallic character of the Brett. Some grainy, dusty malt does come through, and there's a light note of clove, some dark fruit, and a mild vinous side.

The flavor is malty, mineralish, sweet (soft light caramel, brown sugar, sugar candy), spicy (lots of clove, some coriander), sweaty, metallic, tangy, fruity (red grape, plum/prune, cherry, fig), hoppy, earthy, straw-like, lightly cheesy, and bitter. The alcohol never shows, and it finishes dry and gently lingering with a mineralish blanket of dull malt and some lingering bitterness and soft clove. It's so complex though without really showing it, and the flavors vary in their placement throughout the glass like a game of musical chairs... which, I guess, actually adds even more to its complexity.

Really unique, and really enjoyable!!! However, I should note that this is one of those beers that you either love or hate. If you're on board for Orval and clovey-phenolic Belgians, then you'll probably go ape-shit for this one. If not, avoid it like the plague (to use another cliche). For me, I'm going to stock up on as much as I can afford right now. A new personal favorite :)

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Photo of chinchill
4.12/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

22 oz bottle served in a Trois Pistoles snifter. Batch #5 bottled Jan. 2011.

A: modest size and short-lived, light tan head reduces to a lasting ring and leaves some spotty lacing. Clear (1st pour) amber/copper body. Slightly hazy

Jumped into this without knowing what style to expect, immediately finding a great imitation (no offense, Avery/RR) of a fine Belgian dark ale. Using the right glassware for this, then. Not to say this tastes just like some other beer, but it is an excellent example of a style mastered by some Belgians and few others.

The nose is nicely fruity (dates, prunes, raisins), sweet, and lightly spicy including a bit of white pepper. Nonetheless, it is not quite as complex, deep and rich as the flavor. Seems rather clean for this style. Sweet up front, it turns nicely tart and mildly bitter in the finish, then leaves a fruity (mainly dark fruits but also cherries) and lightly sweet aftertaste. The nearly 9% ABV is very well hidden! Great complexity, with numerous flavor components that seem to vary in composition or sequence from sip to sip.

O: a superb beer. I regret buying just the one bottle and will try to add more to my cellar. {success: and review tweaked on Aug. 2012)

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Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.65/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2007 release, poured from a 22oz bottle into a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a deep coppery brown color, with a large beige head that fades slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is of dark fruit, brown sugar, Belgian yeast, caramelized malts and a touch of hops.

T: The taste is malty and spicy but kind of metallic with flavors of dark fruit, brown sugar caramel and chocolate up front. A decent Belgian yeast breadiness follows quickly along with a mild hops presence to provides some balance. The after-taste is slightly sweet.

M: Crisp and a little smooth, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

D: A little tasty, goes down easily, not too filling, good kick, good representation of style, I was expecting a little bit more out of this beer but it's still a solid Belgian to drink for a while.

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Photo of wethorseblanket
3.96/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of dbrauneis
3.82/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Batch #6 - Jan 2012

A: Pours a very lightly hazy reddish brown in color with very light amounts of visible carbonation near the surface and a moderate amount of small white visible yeast sediment. The beer has a half finger tall sudsy off-white head that reduces to a very thin film covering the majority of the surface of the beer and a thin ring of large bubbles at the edges of the glass. Moderate amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Moderate to strong aromas of dark fruits (raisin and prune), spices, and yeast as I would expect for the style.

T: Upfront there is a malty presence that has the notes of brown sugar and caramel sweetness that also has some dark fruits (raisin and prune) present. The finish of this beer is all spices and yeast with a light amount of lingering bitterness.

M: Medium bodied with light amounts of carbonation. Smooth with some light dryness and alcohol warming in the finish.

O: Enjoyable and the beer is rather easy to drink for the style - the alcohol is pretty well hidden. I like the story behind this beer and both these brewer's earned respect from me for not litigating. The flavors and aromas are very true to the style.

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Photo of Rifugium
3.83/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

First had: on tap at TJ's, Paoli, PA

Poured into a chalice, a ruddy red-orange color, murky, with a solid, off-white head and moderate carbonation. Blatant Belgian yeasts and esters in the aroma, candi sugar and dried fruits. Basically the same on the tongue, Belgian yeast, dried papaya, banana esters, raisins, cloves, with a subtle citrus character. Medium mouthfeel, and pretty drinkable overall.

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Photo of mendvicdog
3.75/5  rDev -4.3%

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.85/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch #2.

Appearance: Opaque, mahogany-hued body with a very thin (oh no there it goes), white head.

Smell: Sweet-smelling, fruity nose of raisins, stone fruits, and toasted malts layered with dark caramel sauce and candi sugar, as well as cloves and freshly-grated nutmeg.

Taste: Toasted dark caramel maltiness with a sweet kick of candi sugar. Small dash of cocoa powder and gooey dark brown sugar. Meager hint of booze. Again, there's a wide variety of fruits to be found, and I now feel healthier for having drank this beer. White grapes, green raisins, apricot. Spicy clove and earthy nutmeg component. Very minor sour yeastiness. Some final muted malt hints on the drying, warming finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-full body. Medium-plus carbonation. Very light stickiness to the overall mouthfeel.

Drinkability: A fairly tasty and enjoyable beer made from one good beer, one so-so beer, one sweet story, and one dopey name.

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Photo of billab914
3.8/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch 3. 22oz bottle poured into my Allagash glass. It poured a murky brown color with a frothy tan head filling the top inch of the glass. Very nice head retention and lacing as I drank it.

The aroma has a rich malty flavor to it mixed with some Belgian yeast spice. Some sweeter, caramel and toffee flavors come out with a little bit of a dark fruit presence. pretty nice aroma overall for the style.

The taste shows more of the rich malts, caramel and toffee flavors to it right off the bat. The richness of it lasts right through the finish where it picks up more of the Belgian yeast spice along with a little bit of a dry, tartness.

The mouthfeel is on the heavier side with a nice creaminess to it. Carbonation is a little below average. Overall it was a pretty solid beer, it had some very nice malty flavors to it and the yeast spice wasn't overpowering which I liked. Very drinkable and tasty beer overall.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.42/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Rust orange with a hint of brick red and a fine yeasty haze. The whipped creamy crown is an appealing shade of golden beige and has enough stickiness to maintain multiple foam bridges between itself and the glass. Meandering fingers of thick lace look good as well.

The nose contains all sorts of wonderful things. It's sweet and tart fruity, as well as being impressively clove spicy. I guess that's what happens when two such different beers are blended. At least when the brewers of those beers are as talented as Vinnie Cilurzo and Adam Avery. So far, the whole is greater than the sum of the individual parts.

The same notion applies to the flavor profile, although I'm not yet convinced that the taste score will reflect it. Having said that, I still have a long way to go. First impressions suggest that what was best about each individual Salvation counters what was less than ideal about the other.

I found Avery Salvation to be slightly lacking in complexity, a bit too boozy and probably too highly hopped for the style. On the other hand, it was enjoyably sweet and orchard fruity. I found Russian River Salvation to be lacking in complexity as well, to be too sour for the style, but to be pretty tasty in all other respects.

CNLA is beautifully balanced. It isn't too sweet, too bitter or too sour, but is just right. Actually, this is what I'd hoped Russian River Salvation would taste like. That beer just needed more sweetness and less sourness.

The brewers won't divulge the proportions of each beer used, so I'll take a stab at it. How about Russian River Salvation (68.43%) and Avery Salvation (31.57%)? The flavor profile consists of bruised bananas and ripe apples swimming in a cocoa, caramel and candi sugar syrup, sprinkled liberally with ground clove. I don't know if this fine ale was this delicious initially, but I have the feeling that one year of rest has done it a world of good.

It isn't a bit surprising that two beers with good mouthfeels would equal one beer with a good mouthfeel. I didn't expect improvement here and didn't get it. To repeat something that I might have said in the other reviews, the body/mouthfeel is more than satisfactory for an American ale, while falling short of what is expected from a Belgian or Belgian-style ale. It's medium with a less than completely volumizing carbonation and a light stickiness on the finish.

I reviewed Russian River Salvation several weeks ago so that I could review Collaboration Not Litigation Ale having tasted each of its component parts. What I hoped would happen did, in fact, happen. The strengths of each beer collaborated and counteracted their individual weaknesses. This deserves to be a seasonal release if they can work out the logistics.

Avery Brewing Salvation: 4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0... ... 4.0
Russian River Salvation: 4.5, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0, 4.0... ... 4.05

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Photo of russpowell
4/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours amber/brown with 2 fingers of fluffy eggshell colored head. Above average lacing & a nice persistent ring chases the ale down the glass

S: Fruitty, leather notes, boozey, & horse blanket & all of this fades away & then comes back as this warms, weird

T: Fruiity with bitter choclate up front with some boozeyness lurking at the tip of the tounge. Leather & apricot follow as this warms. Tanins & oaky dryness show up too, along with jammyness, some black currant, cherries, &a hint of aged hops. Finishes with a faint hint of coccoa, breadyness, raisins, more oaky notes & warming/almost burning alcohol, just a wisp or 2 away from perfection

MF: Medium bodied, virtualy no carbonation felt, but still a ;ittle prickly from the alcohol burn

This is a sipper, but I think will only get more drinkable as it mellows. This this is one to lay down for a year or two, if you have the paitience!

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Collaboration Not Litigation Ale from Avery Brewing Company
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