Collaboration Not Litigation Ale | Avery Brewing Company

Collaboration Not Litigation AleCollaboration Not Litigation Ale
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76.3%
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Collaboration Not Litigation AleCollaboration Not Litigation Ale
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Avery Brewing Company
Colorado, United States
averybrewing.com

Style: Belgian Strong Dark Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.72%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by FtownThrowDown on 01-23-2007

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#6,183
Reviews:
736
Ratings:
1,631
Liked:
1,245
Avg:
3.91/5
pDev:
10.23%
Alströms:
0
 
 
Wants:
48
Gots:
245
Trade:
10
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Ratings: 1,631 |  Reviews: 736
Photo of number1bum
4/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch 3, bottled Feb 09. Pours a very interesting color, sort of a dirty looking golden color, not really a brown however. Lighter than expected given the classification as a strong dark ale, however. Has about an inch of beige head on top which keeps well and leaves some decent webbing.

Smell is very fruity, with lots of pear, plum, raisins, musty spice, clove, honey. Lots going on here, let's see what else. Some candied fruit, belgian sugar, earthy, musty yeast. There is some alcohol in the nose, as well.

Taste is also quite complex. Lots of sweetness, consisting of honey and candi sugar, plus lots of fruit like the nose. Tree fruit, plums, golden raisins. Lots of spice as well, partiicularly clove, and very earthy, musty spices that I won't bother trying to name. Yeast character is musty and spicy, and some of the fruitiness is likely yeast derived, as well. There is a bit of alcohol here too, but not much. A lot going on here, and it's quite tasty.

Mouthfeel is close to full bodied, quite smooth with a bit of tacky sweetness left on the palate. Nice creaminess to the beer and it has a good level of carbonation.

This is a tasty beer and quite good across the board. It's different than I expected, although I haven't had either of the two original beers. It's really fruity and I was expecting darker malt flavors and darker fruits, but I'm still pleased with the brew. Definitely worth picking up.

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Photo of donniecuffs
3.92/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 22oz bottle to a pint glass. Very cloudy caramel brown with a surprisingly thin head that didn't lace. Caramel, toffee, malt, and wood all evident in the nose. The taste featured all of these flavors and a thick body at first, which evolved to include a slight alcohol burn, and finished abruptly, with very little after-effect aside from a warm alcohol-feel. The lighter than expected finish certainly helps the sessionability of this beer (in spite of the alcohol content), but the body..thick at first, thin at finish...had me scratching my head. Going back to the store to grab another bottle of this to see how it ages, as I get sense that this one will smooth out over time nicely. Hopefully I'm right.

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Photo of GarrisWH
4.17/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz. bomber - batch #3

A - Pours a hazy orange-copper color with a decent amount of sediment floating within. One finger of off-white head that descends to a nice cap that sticks around. Leaves solid lacing.

S - Has an almost wine-like aroma at first whiff. There is a sweet, fruity tartness up front with some spiciness in the background, hinting at cloves.

T - Somewhat bready, sweet, toasted malts up front that give way to the slightly tart, fruity yeast flavors. Finish is a bit hoppy and relatively dry and leaves the clove-like spiciness lingering on the tongue into the aftertaste. The tartness is maybe what gives it a wine-like quality, but something about the flavor is reminiscent of the vino. An interesting and well balanced brew. I like how the wild yeast is kept in check and isn't too overpowering.

M - Medium (bordering on full)-bodied with a nice, crisp carbonation that fits this one well. Has a slightly resinous feel.

D - Quite drinkable for the style and ABV. Good balance and a nice combination of flavors. I'm glad I picked this one up before it disappeared.

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Photo of LordAdmNelson
3.85/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

This looks quite nice, a pretty ruby brown color with big tan head and mild turbidity. The smell is pretty nice too, big notes of clove and toffee. It goes down pretty easily, quite a light body. The clove note is similar to that of Duvel, actually, which surprised me. The taste is good, with toffee, brown sugar, cloves, and some bready malt, but there is a bit of a metallic taste there too, which is off-putting. All-in-all, this is a great brew that's worth trying. I'd reach for a Maudite first, however.

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Photo of supercolter
4.42/5  rDev +13%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer was quite fantastic in my opinion. Dark in color- nearly brown/purple with sligh head. Lots of dark fruits: plum, grapes and dry malt. The Russian River influence is quite apparent and appreciated. Mouthfeel is medium with good carbonation. Drinkability is great.

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Photo of ThatWineGuy
4.15/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Batch # 2, bottled February 2008. Deep, cloudy brown in my Affligem glass, the head is a scant motionless film although a thin ring is quite pronounced and did not diminish. Lots of suspended particles. Smell of raisins, prune tort. Taste reminds me of a rich Belgian strong dark ale, which might be overstating the obvious, but the flavour and texture seem right on the mark. Taste is sweet candied dark fruit, English toffee, sour dough bread notes, banana, bitterness comes through in the finish. Long aftertaste features candy apple, caramel, wafer, decomposing peach. There is a bit of citric acid but it hardly detracts from the overall presentation. Very rich, smooth, rewarding flavour profile, nice texture, bit of alcohol heat but overall smooth and tasty, try one if you get the opportunity.

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Photo of DoubleJ
4.07/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A blend of beers of the same name? Who knew? Here, I have a 22 ounce bottle of this beer sitting to the left of me, and ready to be admired. On to the beer:

Into a chalice it goes, the beer has a butterscotch brown/orange mix to it. The head is holding up on top, with a semi-creamy texture. Its nose brings good things to mind. It smells like a good Belgian ale. The yeast creates an array of aromas: bananas, peppers, dark fruits, peppermint, mmmm. My mouth waters in anticipation.

This is pleasant. Medium bodied, though it doesn't really soak into the palate as much as I'd like. Spiced fruit is the first thing to hit. I'm thinking pears here. And dates. No, the fruit date, not the date which two people go out together on. The heat of the alcohol is hidden behind the shield of flavor. On the dryer side of things. I wonder how the six months of being on the shelf has affected this beer?

CNL is a well crfted, Belgain-styled beer brewed in America, collaboration or not. It's worth keeping your eyes peeled for.

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Photo of siradmiralnelson
3.65/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 22oz bottle into Chalice.

A. Poured a 1 finger head. Light brown color. Good lacing, with lots of bubbles rising from bottom of glass.

S. Berries, dark fruit, malt sweetness, caramel, yeast, spices.

T. Caramel, candy sugar, hint of cinnamon, raisins, not much hops, not very complex flavor or taste. Lacking in flavor.

M. Medium bodied, pretty dry. Crisp finish.

D. Easy to drink. I expected more flavor and complexity from the style.

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Photo of weazal
4.08/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

S: A milder aroma with a slight funkiness of the Brett with maybe some spicy/berry sweetness? Tough to pull out individual notes.

T: Overwhelming flavor! Warm brandy intensity upfront that carries through! Just...intense flavor. Tangy, puckery bitterness towards end. Overall, it has a thick, caramel and toffee sweetness.

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Photo of moosiz
4.23/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a bottle into a Weihenstephan glass. This brew gives an impressive first impression with a beautiful crystal/amber appearance that fades to burnt orange around the curvations of the glass. Great carbonation at first that slows to a medium but steady pace. The carbonation produces a 1/2 inch tan head of creamy sticky foam. Rorschach lacing is making me see things.

Bubblegum,roasted spices, toasted malts, nana, and sweet dark sugarity all smell really good together.

This brew has a sweet/malt taste that is balanced by its fruity acidity. The sugary dry finish works.

Bold mouthfeel up front followed by a rapid disappearance of the thick sweetness. The drink ends with a dry fruity flavor.

This brew is easy to drink, but I'm not sure if they get easier to drink. The first one is great. After that it might lose some luster, but That first one is so good it deserves a nice score.

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Photo of Yesac
3.77/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- Murky brown. Little to no head. Fades quickly to a ring around the glass.

S- Sweet brown sugar, caramel,hints of Belgian yeast and raisin.

T- What a let down from the smell. The taste is immediately reminds me of an adjunct lager because of a 'beery' malt taste that is present. Not a complex Belgian. Similar to an American Barleywine. Strong ABV presence and strong on the malt. Slight raisin taste. Dry overall and poor aftertaste.

M- Sticky. Medium bodied. Not a great aftertaste. High carbonation.

D- Drinks like an american barleywine, just overly not impressive. Only Unibroue and a true Belgian can pull of this style it seems.

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Photo of nsmartell
3.83/5  rDev -2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I enjoyed this beer from the comfort of my own living room. From the bomber to a snifter glass. Batch #3.

Appearance: Pours a nice orange color with a big white head that stuck around for a while, especially for a snifter glass.

Smell: Fruity, bread-like malts, banana cloves and a hint of alcohol and yeasty.

Taste: Not much going on here. A little lacking in the taste department. What I can taste though is the maltiness. The malts dominate so I cannot taste the alcohol.

Mouthfeel: Thin-bodied, smooth and a decent amount of carbonation.

Drinkability: Goes down smooth. Pretty decent for the style. The snifter definitely brings out the aromas. Would drink again as it is an easy drink.

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Photo of Aenema
3.6/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Appearance - Mahogany topped with a fluffy off-white head. Nice splotchy lacing.
Smell - Raisin, dark fruit and some alcohol.
Taste - Raisin, dark fruit, banana with dark caramel malts. Sugary notes make this too sweet.
Mouthfeel - Medium-bodied with a smooth feel and moderate carbonation.
Drinkability - Too sweet and filling to be sessionable. Much better in a sample size or being shared.

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Photo of slk22
3.31/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured into a chalice, this beer was red-brown in color with a good bit of turbidity and little to no head. The appearance was, to me, unappealing reminding me of dirty water. Aroma was pleasing, consisting of a sweet fruitiness, honey, and alcohol. Taste largely follows the nose. Most prominent was the flavor of caramelized fruit; apricot, cherry, and overripe plum. Notes of honey were also present along with alcohol, ending with a dry finish. Overall, I found the flavor to be overly sweet and syrupy. Mouthfeel was smooth, of medium body and carbonation. While this is an interesting offering, due to the overt sweetness of this beer, I would not have more than one.

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Photo of babaracas
4/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch #2.
Pours a dark orange red with fading two finger eggshell colored head, lots of sediment, thin sheet of lacing. Smell: sweet, caramel, clove, raisin, soft banana, somewhat muted. Taste: dark caramel, red plum, some raisin, a sweet bready thing going on, a touch of spicy hop to go with spicy clove note, and a bit of mashed up ready-for-banana-bread banana. Something else... can you hybrid pear and ginger? I'm not a huge fan of this style but this one was fairly interesting but unexciting. Cool story behind it though.

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Photo of Dodo2step
3.98/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

P- Grape and Gourmet in Va Beach

Batch # 3

A- a clear crisp and sharp amber color. Some yeasty floaties but not a lot. 2 finger mountainous head that has a speckled lacing on my glass.

S- dark fruits and nutmeg dominate. I then get some bubblegum aromas mixed with banana clove. Very interesting and not bad but odd.

T- a dark candied sweetness up front with the banana to close. In between there is a lot going on; belgian yeast, raisin, nutmeg and other spices.

M- almost a medium bodied beer but the drink coats the mouth with sweet malts and banana like hops.

D- not bad but the beer fills you up quick. Being a mixed brew i wasnt sure how to approach this but it was good overall. The overly sweetness of the beer takes the rating down a notch but good brew.

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Photo of steeltown71
3.15/5  rDev -19.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A: Dark orange, lively carbonation, moderate head retention.

S: Cinnamon roll, raisins, nutmeg.

T: Considerable upfront sweetness, Belgian yeast, slight hop bitterness on the finish. Alcohol is barely noticeable.

M: Medium-bodied, good carbonation.

D: Deceptive 9% here, highly drinkable.

I haven't tried either of the component ales so I can't really comment on the effectiveness of the combination. On its own merits though, it makes for a solid Belgian dark ale, perhaps lacking in complexity.

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Photo of redneckchugger
3.18/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured a light brown with light head, some lacing.
Smells of bananas and dark fruits.
Taste is all bananas upfront with raisins, plums and a little bit of breadiness on the mid palette, the finish is more bananas and a bit of heat as well. I am really underwhelmed to be honest. Its flavors are disjointed, and too weak, the heat is a big distraction, this beer is a mess. Given Russian river and Avery's track records i expected this collaboration to be better, but its mediocre at best.

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Photo of ArrogantDeadGuy
4.26/5  rDev +9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Hazy, light rust hues with little to no head except for the final pour from the bottle. There is very little carbonation visible but the debris present makes the difference. The malt overtones are exceptionally balanced with the hop finish and fruity undertones. The sweet candied hops and fruitiness is nice and made crisp with a nice floral/citrus hop finish. There is some chewy stickiness to this brew which is quite pleasant as the body stays even without too much thickness or syrup. The body of the brew reminds me of apple cider, and even more so as my pint sat and came up to room temperature. The rise in temp also increased the ease with which my pallet could detect a nice hop finish. This is a really good style interpretation and a testament to what two quality brewers can do when their not suing one another over copywrie issues.

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Photo of dogfishandi
4.03/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

bomber batch #3, poured into oversized wine glass. pours a maghony wood like color, a little orange, lots of sediment, big off white head on the pour, very good retention, nice lacing as well.

in the aroma, you get big acidic, bubblegum, with some solvent notes. sharp dark fruits as well, plum, orange.

the acidity comes through in the taste, almost a little sour. some bubblegum in there, the same fruity taste, finishes with an acidic, fruity, bitter taste.

medium body, acidic mouthfeel, great carbonation. very good drinkability as well. a good beer, but not the best belgian dark. the story behind this makes this even better.

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Photo of womencantsail
3.88/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch #3

A: A dark orange/amber color with a thin layer of white foam.

S: Spice, yeast, orange peel, caramel, and candi sugar.

T: Very similar to the nose with spice, raisins, caramel, and toffee.

M: Medium body, coats the tongue.

D: I wasn't really sure what to expect from this, and must say it was a fairly pleasant experience.

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Photo of jlindros
3.37/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Batch #3 bottled in Feb. 2009. Poured from bomber into tulip glass.

A: Big airy head dark orange brown with a slight rosy hue and some sediment and haze

N: Nose is very reminiscent of a Belgian tripel with nice sweet malts and candi sugar as well as a slight yeasty sour fruit a little caramel and some alcohol, probably the best thing this beer has going for it IMO

T: Taste starts with dark malts and candi sugar, lots of alcohol taste, it starts like a light Belgian tripel and somewhat tasty, but goes downhilll with a strange watery yeasty off flavor thats somewhat unpleasant, it has some candi sugar but not much, its also got a strange blandness to it I can't explain, an earthy bitterness and slight raisiny taste peaks in the middle

M: It has a spicey mouthfeel and lots of carbonation

F: Finish is spicey and that same earthy bitter that leaves a very unpleasant taste in the mouth, it also finishes bitter and lots of alcohol that seems to magnify the bad bitter taste that seems to come from a wild or crazy yeast strain

Final thoughts: THe beer starts good but seems to get that strange wild-saison-like taste that is pretty unpleasant after the Belgian tripel. I remember the last batch being better than this I think. I could see some people liking this one, but its not for me, its even hard to continue drinking it, the unpleasant finish makes me want to keep drinking it to get the good start that will go over the finish.

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Photo of ToddT
3.6/5  rDev -7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A- Copper hue with a white head. Head falls quickly but leave a little lace on the glass.

S- Fruit and yeast are the dominate notes. Some notes of caramel, malt, and floral hops.

T- Raisin and banana start off followed by some sweet molasses. Bitter wash of hops rounds out the middle and carries through to the finish, which is crisp but with a lingering bittersweet final note. Finish picks up some warmth about halfway through the bottle.

M- A little less than medium in body, maybe a little watery but with good carbonation.

D- Pretty easy to drink for 8.72% ABV. The alcohol only shows through with it's warming effect. Don't know if I could finish more than one of these since it is a little sweet.

Notes: From batch #2 bottled in February 2008

Good one to try to see what all the hype is about. Not one I'll go back for though.

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Photo of blackearth
2.85/5  rDev -27.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Purchased from Consumer Beverage in Hales Corners, WI. Poured from the bottle into a snifter yielded a deep, dark orange body with a thin cap of foam. Aroma is mostly of yeasty esters with some hint of malt sweetness. Mouthfeel is full bodied and syrupy. Extremely malty and sweet. The alcohol is well hidden. This is a decent beer, but didn't win me over.

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Photo of popery
3.7/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Having heard the back story on this beer, I was quite curious to try it. I can't say that it wowed me, but it's an interesting combination of styles from two distinctive and excellent breweries. Ultimately, my opinion is simply that each brewery does a better job on their own than in collaboration. This beer pours a lighter than expected though still quite dark golden brown color. The aroma is of nectarines and earthy yeast. The flavor is quite fruity but doesn't pack enough depth for me to really enjoy it. The caramel malt character is good as is the blending of yeast flavors. The flavors just come out a bit too close to a bubblegummy weizenbock for my taste in Belgian ales. The feel is strong and drinkability is pretty good.

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Collaboration Not Litigation Ale from Avery Brewing Company
Beer rating: 76.3% out of 100 with 1,631 ratings
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