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Collaboration Not Litigation AleCollaboration Not Litigation Ale

Brewed by:
Avery Brewing Company
Colorado, United States

Style: Belgian Strong Dark Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.72%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by FtownThrowDown on 01-23-2007

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Photo of JAA
4.05/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

This will probably be the only product of Russian River we see in Florida for quite some time. So i'm happy to drink up.

Pours a very cloudy and yeasty light brownish red. A huge fluffy head built up rather easily. I did use the wrong glassware, shame on me.

Tastes a bit on the sweet side, those sugars need to calm down. Raisin and dark fruits overpower just about everything. Slightly spicy, cinnamon and a little clove. Alcohol is perceived but not offensive.

Average mouthfeel for a Belgian style ale. Yeasty and moderately smooth.

This brew could probably stand to be cellared for a year, to let the alcohol and sugars calm down a bit. It is however, a decently drinkable beer in its current state.

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Photo of flannelman808
3.93/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This is a pretty good brew, though I love russian rivers salvation and hoped that this one would have been a little more funky.

But a good brew all the same.

Pours a dark amber/brown and has very white head. Not super foamy but it does have decent head retention.

smells of oats and cereal which maybe a hint of spice. The nose on this beer is not particularly pungent.

The first thing I noticed is the mouthfeel... thats right mouthfeel. its really mouthfilling and creamy. This beer is kind of like eating a loaf of semi sweet cinnamon raisin bread or something. But not bad all things considered. I do get a little bit of alcohol at the end but its pleasant.

For its abv I would say this is a pretty drinkable brew. Not an exceptional beer but its worthy.

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Photo of PEBKAC
3.34/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Growler filled at Whole Foods.

Golden Carolus goblet. Served a little extra cold to account for the time it takes for me to migrate from the computer to the couch.

The beer is in a little bit of a dream state. A chill hazed dull amber & a sharp alcoholic tone rising off it. It sits & sweats...

Topping off the first pour, a thin, unagitated layer of eggshell white-colored foam laces up the rim of the glass very uniformly with sticky residual sugars. Subsequent pours grow, but never reach above half an inch.

Smells of cooked bananas, sugar cookies, light coriander, & a touch of lemon. Burnt caramel takes over at the end, riding on some now, less brazen(but still very potent) alcohol.

Taste is a lot like a stiff bock to me(bready yeast, stingy clove, some noticeable heft, big alcohol). Maybe a touch nutty. Bananas, over-ripened or otherwise, seem absent though. Body is a bit lighter too. It's missing that sickly sweet malt as well. Okay, not a bock. :P

Residuals are big though. Amazingly easier to swallow then a solvent fire or gooey mess of malt. Candied sugar works miracles. The beer never feels sticky or saturated. Bitterness is mellow, but soothing(hint of zest), numbing things out a little. Carbonation is low, but tight. Finish is cracker-y amid all that alcohol.

Decent beer, but I'd leave blending to more sure things... like Shirley Temples. :P

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Photo of alleykatking
3.82/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Batch number 2. Split a bottle with my roommate who hates anything that's not an IPA.

A- Poured my half into a pint glass. Pours nice murky sewage brown. This is a hazy beer with tons of stuff floating in it. Poured a quater inch tan head that went away quite quickly leaving almost no lacing.

S- This smells like a big horehound candy. Nice big suguary spicey malt bomb. Nothing really stands out with this but I do smell dried fruit with this and maybe a little clove....just maybe.

T- Wow this is a sweet malty drink. Can really taste the sugar with this. Dried fruit can be tasted but I still taste what seems to be like a liquid horehound.

M- Kind of a heavy mouthfeel with this. The carbonation is kind of weak but works out well with this beer. Coats the palate in sugary malt overtones that stick around for a short bit after.

D- This beer is a good beer but not what I am really looking for most of the time. I would pick this beer up again when I was in the mood for something different.

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Photo of rtepiak
3.88/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

pour is a dark amber with murk. a medium mild head. smell is simple wheat malt, and ethanol. banana and belgian sweetness. palate is that with a coarse hop character. a bit peppery. a bit of dark fruit in there but not something i can pick up on tap for some reason. had it better in a bottle... more balenced.

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Photo of horshack7
3.5/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Batch number 3 pours a slightly clear orange color. The head on it thins our a little quick.

Aroma: A light hop nose from this one. Big notes of alcohol fruity esters. Subtle hints of caramel and maltiness. There are some hints of dried apricots.

Taste: Lots of carbonation and a very crisp mouthfeel. A nice bit of maltiness but outlined with dried fruitiness. The alcohol gives this one a big bite..

Notes: Well it's a tasty brew overall and by all means for it's style as well. Cheers.

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Photo of Haybeerman
3.78/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Clear dark orange color with red/brown jue. Poured a 2 finger tan coardse head with good retention that settled to an even cap. Ample lacing.

S: Sweet, light-colored fruit. Citrussy twinge at the end. Yeast esters.

T: Very sweet candy sugar. A surprising tartness that sets up a solid malt foundation. Bitter finish cleans it all up nicely.

M: Medium body. Balanced carbonation. Velvety, smotth and warming.

D: Really good the style. Disguises the abv well.

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Photo of clayrock81
4.05/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pured a cloudy orangish body with solid two-finger head that left lace down the glass. Some light herbal hops and sweet caramel notes are in the smell, while I also pick up hints of that typical Belgian yeast/orange smell in here. Also some aromas of dark and tart fruits. They really nailed the aroma. Smooth and slightly sticky at the same time, there is a good yeast twang in this beer and a good amount of fruit tastes - citric with orange, heavier fruits like grapefruit (subtley, I should say). Mixed with a good batch of sugary sweet malts - caramel, gum - think sticky. Has an added touch of clove and a hidden ABV to make this dangerous. A great sipper to enjoy and a must-try.

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Photo of macktbone
3.92/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

batch #3

Pours a very ruddy brown, similar to an unfiltered ale. Not a lot of head. Heavy carbonation appearance.

Smells similar to champagne. Could be the carbonation, but I get a lot of white grape and a bit of leather on the nose.

Strange Belgian funk taste. Very hard to nail down which makes me happy and not, at the same time. I like the complexity but it deffinately tastes like a collaboration. Aftertaste is a bit moldy. It really fills the roof of your mouth with aroma, very leathery and floral.

Feels rather good going down. Too much carbonation for my taste but good for the collective efforts.

With all the other great ones out there, the drinkability kind of suffers. Sure if you enjoy these two breweries you should give it a try. I would recommend it for some one that love one of the two or is trying to get into different Belgians to experience a not so normal set of taste factors in a Belgian.

It makes for a good think of Vinnie and guests sitting around Russian River with all the customers clamoring about (can't do that anymore), and trying to determine the name for this. Though its not my favorite from RR or Avery I would probably pass it along, just to be able to tell the story.

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Photo of 100floods
4.18/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

reviewing batch #3 (2009)

pours a orange/copper. murky, too. absolutely no head, hair-line lacing. the first smell had a mix chocolate and cola, pretty good if you ask me. dark sugar yeast flavors. this is the easiest on the pallet of the three batches so far. This batch was brewed with a previously brewed batch of avery's slavation, a golden ale, which might be the reason this batch is so different. A great light brown ale, always a pleasure to find this beer. I've aged previous batches, wouldn't age this one.

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Photo of BDLbrewster
3.92/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured a batch #2 (2008). Pours a burnt orange, amber color with very little head. What little head appears wizzels away quickly leaving a large island that kind of looks like Antarctica. Fair amount of sediment wanders around the glass and there is no lacing. Smells of citrus peel and and a faint bit of spice. Very little carbonation and the taste is pretty underwhelming. Kind of strange, not as rich as i expected, there is a lot of spice and some faint hop character. At 8.99%, the alcohol is hidden well and this brew disappears easily. It's not super crazy, but for some reason I really enjoyed it. For the price, I will probably look for batch #3.

*Edit* As this brew warms the complexity really comes out, B+ to an A- for me. Will grab another #2 for sure.

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Photo of LauraAlberts
4.11/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Burnt Orange Yellow - Cloudy with a half inch of beautiful egg white head. Mild lacing.

Smell: Spices, Coriander, Orange

Taste: Subtle alcohol at first what whips by opening up to a slight melon, overripe burnt banana flavor. Just a bit of bite that soothes the palate. Ends with orange peel flavor.

Mouthfeel: Full bodied, slick taste that's neither smooth nor bitey. Nice and chewy for a strong dark.

Drinkability: This guy's a sipper. The closest I'll get to tasting a Russian River beer here in South Carolina!

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Photo of stephens101
3.99/5  rDev +2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours reddish-brown with an orange tint. A decent sized tan head fades leaving some broken stripes of lacing behind. Aroma involves sour and tart dried, dark fruits (figs, prunes), yeast, faint alcohol and a subtle candy sweetness. Tastes of more dark fruits, matls, taffy and grain. A very faint alcohol heat slips in at the very end. If the taste was as bold as the smell, we'd have an exceptional beer here, but it's a bit understated for a beer of this magnitude. Mouth-feel is medium plus. It's well carbonated. This is a really good beer, but just a little tweaking on the taste would make it near perfect, so here's hoping to Avery and RR getting together again and create another fine brew for us.

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Photo of stcules
3.58/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The color is a brown / dark cherry wood, beautiful, bright, wih a good foam, even if not too much.
Structured smell, but not invading. Malty notes, a light woodyness, a good maltiness, but not overwhelming.
Light fruity notes, cherry, maybe pineapple?
The structure is the big thing in the taste, too. It is an important beer, without being too strong or heavy.
Full, textured mouthfeel.
More than pleasant, with astrong and intense notes, no too strong in alcohol.
Again a light cherry in the aftertaste.
Full body, not too long but intense aftertaste.

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Photo of brow1901
3.59/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a nice looking bright amber orange. Decent two finger head that fades quick. I like the hazy glow of the beer. The smell isn't the best. Pretty standard light malt sweetness, pepper notes, not much interesting scents. The beer does taste pretty good though. The only thing that I don't like is that it tastes more like a saison. The carbonation is light and refreshing very enjoyable. And the brew is really drinkable, nice alcohol warming. It won't put you to bed though.

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Photo of giblet
4.47/5  rDev +14.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

poured a nice amber color into the glass. a bit over an inch of rich head. good steady carbonation. smells of malts and sweet fruit. flava...ah the flava! tastes wonderful, complex, malts, roasted malts with a nice finish. excellent lacing down the glass. a very nice beer indeed.

suckem up and movem out.


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Photo of Thorpe429
3.85/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Had on tap at the Sunset Grill outside of Boston. Excellent selection.

A: Dark orange with sort of a rusty look. Slightly cloudy with a good white head. Nice lacing.

S: Sweet with some fruit characteristics. Some of the traditional Belgian esters--I always seem to get bubblegum.

T: Sweet with candied sugar and a good deal of complexity. Some tartness. A nice malt base. Some fresh fruit flavors.

M: Good, creamy mouthfeel. Nice and smooth. I love it.

D: Highly drinkable for the style and abv. Perhaps too much for an extended sitting, but something I'm glad I can get in bottle form back here in Chicago.

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Photo of Seanibus
4/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I don't get it. This is good and everything, but I couldn't really tell where the beer was coming from. It seemed to clash with itself. It's a cute story behind it, but ultimate just a gimmick.

Pours hazy bright orange. Slight head but fabulous lacing. Aroma is assertive and plummy, marmalade like. Flavor is sweet and slightly spicy, with an apricot character, a hint of orange marmalade. Spicy, phenolic, slight Belgiany. Finish is spicy, allspice, carbonation. Mouthfeel is smooth but spritzy. Refreshing and drinkable. Not sure of the point, though.

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Photo of philipquarles
3.58/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Batch #3. Pours a dark, murky amber with a large white head. The foam disappears to nothing quickly, but leaves a lot of lacing. Strong aromas of banana, apple, clove, tangy yeast are present, along with a general sugary sweetness. Tastes quite spicy and fruity initially, with a strong, slightly toasty caramel malt character to back it up. Hop bitterness is there in the background, but acts to balance out the sweet components pretty nicely. Though the finish is slightly warming, it's not boozy. This is not normally my style of beer; I find them to be big sugary messes, in general. Avery's normal Salvation was terrible. This brew, however, was a pleasant surprise that worked well.

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Photo of nrbw23
3.75/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A- Pours a murky brown color with a white head. Head has great retention but doesn't leave a lot of lacing.

S- Smells of Beligan yeast, caramel malts, fruits mainly banana, plums and raisins. Its sweet, fruity and could also pick up some funkiness here as well.

T- This one grew on me quite a bit as I drank the bottle. Tastes of fruits and Belgian yeast, pale and caramel malts, hints of dark fruit in the middle, some brown sugar, molasses near the end, and a moderate alcohol in the finish

M- Medium in body and higher in carbonation.

D- Interesting brew. I enjoyed this one but just don't think I could drink a lot of these or drink them often. Kind of a change of pace beer for me.

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Photo of hsway
3.91/5  rDev 0%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Poured on tap into a 14 oz. or so goblet.

a: Beautiful. Murky brown with a creamy white head and lots of lacing. I'm a sucker for the goblets.

s + t: Very flowery and yeasty, with a hint of spice.

m: Silky and smooth.

d: I wouldn't want to drink too much of this because it's very strong flavored, but the one goblet was just enough.

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Photo of riboflavin88
3.88/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: A hazy, cloudy honey-brown with a small head and some patchy lacing

S: Sweet smelling with hints of raisins and faint spice

T: Great balance of malt and hops, more malty though with sweet notes up front- brown sugar, vanilla, raisins, and plums with back notes of mild citrus. Slightly bitter end.

M: Good amount of carbonation makes a crisp mouthfeel.

D: Very drinkable beer, not too sweet and balanced well. Similar styles tend to be overly sweet making it less drinkable.

Bottom Line: Buy this beer and try it. An awesome collaboration from 2 awesome breweries. I'm excited to see more from these guys!

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Photo of aubuc1
3.88/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22 oz bottle poured in to a chimay goblet.

Pours hazy dark orange with a foamy off white head.

Smell is musty sweet. Light fruit and yeast. Doesn't really jump out.

Very nice taste is full malty, and slightly sour and spicy.

Good full mouthfeel and an easy drinking beer for the style. Abv not noticable.

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Photo of Westsidebuddha
3/5  rDev -23.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bought from Hollingshead Deli in Orange, Calif. Bottled in Feb. 2009, Batch #3. ABV: 8.97%

Smell from bottle is a smoky flavor. A dark, golden color with a little fizz rising to the top. Smell in a pint glass is also smoky. Nice, mellow taste with a very slight candy flavor. ABV doesn't overwhelm the drinkability of this beer. Little sediments floating in glass as I pour the rest of the beer in it. A decent beer to try at least once.

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Photo of BMoney575
3.38/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Sampled on 4-7-09
Batch #2
Bottled in Feb. 2008
8.72% abv

Pours an orange/amber color, as cloudy as a beer could ever be. A filmy head leaves rings of white lacing.

Smell is decently aged, with a sour fruitiness that becomes very appealing. The malt comes in next, with a smooth sugary sweetness.

Taste is malty at first, followed by a big citrus hoppiness, not bitter, and finishes with an odd, grape/raisin flavor. Kind of all-over-the-place.

Mouthfeel is good, nicely thick and low carbonation seems to suit it.

Drinkability is decent, the alcohol is well handled but the flavors are strange.

Overall, not bad, but not good.

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Collaboration Not Litigation Ale from Avery Brewing Company
Beer rating: 3.91 out of 5 with 1,633 ratings