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Oud Floris | Avery Brewing Company

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Avery Brewing Company
Colorado, United States

Style: Flanders Oud Bruin

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.39%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
Flanders-style Oud Bruin. An homage to the complex sweet and tart beers of the Flanders region. A blend of barrel-aged wild beers of various ages.

67% aged in Cab Sauv Barrels
17% aged in Bourbon Barrels
8% aged in Rum Barrels
8% aged in Chardonnay Barrels

Added by chugalug06 on 06-24-2012

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of StoneTSR
2.52/5  rDev -40.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

APPEARANCE: Pours a deep, dark brown with some lighter brown getting through near the top when held to the light. A small head rises and then quickly falls leaving a ring of off-white foam around the edges. Not much lacing here.

SMELL: Very funky. There is a lot going on here, but all of it in a subtle way. Vanilla, oak, hints of grapes, tart cherry and maybe even a touch of nuttiness. The aroma is pleasant and light, but warns of an intensely sour beer.

TASTE: Yikes. This thing is even more intense than the nose indicated it would be. The only thing coming through is tart cherry. It completely dominates. As the beer warms a few other flavors come out of hiding. Vinegar and a decent dose of wood shine through. The caramel and spice I expected never really comes through and sadly, neither does the bourbon or rum.

MOUTHFEEL: Slight carbonation with a TON of pucker. This is not an easy beer to drink.

OVERALL: I love big, bold beers, but this is simply too extreme. It goes over the top with the tartness and is nearly undrinkable, something I never, ever say about an Avery beer. But hey, when you're experimenting with beer, you win some and you lose some and 95% of the time Avery wins.

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3/5  rDev -29.1%

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3/5  rDev -29.1%

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3.4/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

The color is nice in the Leffe globe-- a coppery brown with golden highlights. A slight spritz at first pour but little head. Near flat after a few minutes in the glass. Interesting winey and vinegary aroma.

This brew is on the acidic side of this style. Some body to it from the residual malt, but sweetness is pretty well submerged in the acidity. A hint of apples and dry, bitter cider. To say it tastes like cherries would be stretching the imagination, but there is a little sour fruit. Woody. The four different barrels is a little over the top, and the confusion of flavors fighting through the sourness are not very enlightening. The alcohol seems to intensify the sharp flavors. Quite a bitter finish, though not from hops, apparently.

This 12 oz bottle says it was bottled June 14 2012. An interesting effort, and I will keep tasting these things to learn more about the spectrum. Bought at Grapevine Liquors in Denver.

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3.5/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

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3.58/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle $10.99 Looks like Avery has raised the price of their barrel series starting with Uncle Jacob's, disappointing. Dark brown color, fleeting head. Looks good. Smell is a little woody, fruit, vinegar, you know it will be sour. Flavor is barrel, cherry like sourness, vinegar and possibly some sort of spirits (bourbon?). Overall a decent offering but compared to something like La Folie or even Cuvee Des Jacobins Rouge this falls short. I honestly thought afterward that I wish I had bought two Jacobins Rouge for the same price.

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3.6/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 2 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

From Chris. Thanks!

A: An almost lifeless mahogany with red/purple edges. Head fizzes out quickly. Could be a lot more enticing.

N: Deep oak, acetone, vinegar, and cherry. Vinous wine grape as well as sweet red grapes. Some leather and a touch of tobacco leaf.

T: Puckering sourness and a very, very sharp acidity. Some light sweetness and more of the acetone/vinegar. A bit sulfuric.

M: Alcohol is well hidden. Body is spritzy and biting, and it's a bit dense and oily.

O: Enjoyable, but I'd like a touch more sweetness for balance and a slight reduction in ABV to loosen the strings a bit more.

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3.68/5  rDev -13%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A nearly mahogany color to it with an off-white head that is poorly retained. Intense sweetness on the nose of red grapes, plums, prunes, vanilla, and chocolate. A weird combination, I must say. Only a hint of tartness in the background. Flavor shows off the wood flavors as well as the vanilla. A touch of chocolate on the finish with the intense fruit (grape and red wine) flavors in the foreground. Lightly acidic with a touch of lactic tartness, but not enough to cut through the sweetness.

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3.69/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

BOTTLE: 2012 vintage. 12 fl oz. Brown glass with gold foil covering the crown cap. Bottled June 14th, 2012. 252 cases produced. #12 in Avery's barrel aged series.

9.39% ABV. Barrel aged "Flanders-esque" sour brown ale.

HEAD: 5-6cm of head. Pale khaki colour. Not the most robust, but not thin either. Retention isn't bad - maybe 3 minutes at best. No lacing is left on the sides of the glass after it's receded fully.

BODY: Translucent semitransparent amber of average vibrance. More appropriate for a Flanders red ale than an oud bruin, but nevertheless appealing. I see no yeast/lees within.

Appears aptly carbonated. It's a nice overall look for an oud bruin, but there's ample room for improvement.

AROMA: Nails the style, more or less. Acetic acid, obvious oak wood (along with vanilla, but I assume that's from the bourbon barrel as well), bacterial complexity (lactobacillus is present, though not dominant per se), and vague fruitiness (maybe dates and grapes). The barrel character is atypical of the style in spite of the presence of oak, with plenty of barrel sugars coming in and countering what should be dominant - the sourness - with too much sweetness. Sourness is a meagre 2/10 in terms of intensity, making this brew hardly seem puckering.

Still, this aroma suggests a balanced and true-to-style brew with some interesting barrel notes - and I think that's exactly what Avery was after with this beer. Still, the wine barrel character isn't horribly evocative, nor are the rum or bourbon barrel notes.

TASTE & TEXTURE: Tart and puckering, indeed - I misjudged the sourness horribly going off the aroma. This is easily a 6-7/10 in terms of sourness, though a lot of it is just lactobacillus, and it lacks the bacterial intricacy of the best truly spontaneously fermented expressions of the style. There's plenty of lactic acid and wild yeasty twang bouncing around in the build, along with the requisite acetic acid and oak.

What never comes through is the high ABV; I'll never know how Avery hides their high ABVs so well (or, to be fair, why they think every barrel aged beer they put out has to be a monster even in delicate styles like oud bruin). There's no booziness or heat here at all.

More umami notes of pie crust manifest - always a treat in any Flanders wild ale. Faint suggestions of grape, raisin, and date do emerge, along with some barrel sugar sweetness.

Speaking of the barrel character: only the wine comes through, which is fine by me (who wants the coconut and sugarcane of bourbon/rum in their oud bruin anyway?). The wine acidity plays well with the acetic notes and grape/raisin notes, fitting in naturally. Would I know this was aged in cabernet sauvignon barrels specifically in a blind tasting? Likely not, but it does seem to be red wine, and I don't find any crisp chardonnay notes like pear. Red wine was a good choice for aging this oud bruin, though I do think its tannic sharpness and acidity makes it an inferior choice to virgin oak.

Brown sugar. A hint of caramel. Subtle leather (possibly from the bourbon barrrel). Brown malts. A kiss of English character in the form of biscuity almost nutty notes.

Certainly balanced, even if the thick red wine does get too prominent on the finish.

Texture is oddly chewy and leathery for an oud bruin. Medium to full-bodied, with a high acidity that holds it back from being refreshing. Slightly coarse and dry (especially in the first act), which is a little odd. Carbonation is slightly high. I do notice some pleasant warmth in the stomach drinking this; maybe that's the ABV finally giving a greeting.

While this lacks an ideal harmony of texture and taste, the mouthfeel is generally well executed at least to the extent that it doesn't get in the way of the flavours. Nice depth of flavour, with high flavour duration and intensity. True, most great expressions of the style are a bit more subtle and delicate in their execution, but Avery opted for a bolder brew when they through this in barrels and upped the ABV.

OVERALL: Avery's barrel series continues its excellence with this oud bruin, though it seems the barrel notes aren't coming through as vividly as Avery's brewers/blenders may have hoped. Unnecessarily high in alcohol, though unlike Avery's stouts, barleywines, monstrous Belgian ales, and pumpkin beers, it isn't noticeable except as a pleasant warmth after consumption. In any case, this is amongst the best American attempts at the style I've sampled, though it does fall short of the best Belgian expressions of the style. Absolutely worth trying and worth the price once (even if traditionalists might prefer a 4 pack of Petrus). I'd like to see this aged entirely in virgin oak with less lactobacillus and more other bacteria strains as well as less acidity for a more delicate and dialed in brew; the result could be world class.

It's aged well aside from beginnings of cardboardy notes indicating it will oxidize going forward. Drink now.

B (3.69) / GOOD

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3.7/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

304th Review
10 oz. bottle poured into Westy 12 chalice
Bottled: April 6, 2012
Production: 252 case (of which, I think about 225 or so were sold/distributed)

Thanks ricoch3t for bringing this over on his visit to the Emerald Isle – Thanksgiving 2012. Cheers!

A: Medium burgundy. ¼ (khaki) fingernail head on gentle pour.

S: Brown sugar, cinnamon, tannins, and dark fruit. Hint of vinegar here too with touch of sour cherry. Soft vinous overtones as well. Good barrel character here too.

T: Taste follows smell quite closely, but characteristics are quite muffled together and the only thing that comes forward is the sour. Tannins, barrel, and loads over sour overtones. Honestly, I wish the fruit sweetness would come out a bit more to balance this beer out.

M: Medium body with mild carbonation.

O: This beer was simply okay in my book. Not too much that makes it stand out, but there seems to be a bit of long-term potential if the flavours and characters can mesh together over time. We will see…

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3.75/5  rDev -11.3%

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3.75/5  rDev -11.3%

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3.75/5  rDev -11.3%

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3.75/5  rDev -11.3%

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3.75/5  rDev -11.3%

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3.75/5  rDev -11.3%

Photo of Billolick
3.95/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12 ouncer bottled on June 14, 2012.

Allowed to warm up quite a bit, this one pours dark brown amber, dark tan head, departing quickly and leaving a fine film and strands of lace and a thin collar.

The nose is of red wine, vinagar, chocolate, raspberries, then earthy and musty to top things off, all sorts of stuff going on.

Quite tart, with more sharp vinagar, musty, ripe biting fruit, complex and overflowing with flavor and character. This is badass sour, that will not to everybodies liking. However the sour lovers amoung us will be pleased.

Likely could use some more time in the bottle...oh well...

It's a must to let this warm up, the first colder sip was kinda shocking, then the later sips, more enjoyable.

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4/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Errl for sharing this bottle.

The beer pours a reddish-amber color with a white head. The aroma is full of toffee and sour cherries, with some nice red wine notes thrown in for good measure. The flavor is extremely sour with a lot of sour cherries and sour red wine character. I also get some oak and a hint of rum. There is also a light amount of sweetness. Medium mouthfeel and low carbonation. A very nice sour.

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4/5  rDev -5.4%

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4/5  rDev -5.4%

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4/5  rDev -5.4%

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Oud Floris from Avery Brewing Company
Beer rating: 4.23 out of 5 with 123 ratings
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