Gregorius
Stift Engelszell

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Style:
Belgian Strong Dark Ale
Ranked #108
ABV:
9.7%
Score:
87
Ranked #13,088
Avg:
3.9 | pDev: 12.05%
Reviews:
167
Ratings:
563
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Stift Engelszell
 
Austria
Avail:
Year-round
Wants
  51
Gots
  111
SCORE
87
Very Good
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Photo of PDXHops
2.63/5  rDev -32.6%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

11.2 ounce bottle poured into a St Bernardus goblet. Deep hazy brown with an initially puffy cream-colored head that dies down disappointingly quickly. A bubbly skim clings tenaciously, and a bit of crackly lacing is left up top.

The chief aromas are bready malt and a pronounced woody character that seems out of place, although not altogether unpleasant. Lighter medicinal, dark fruit and leafy notes.

Tastes a bit messy and disjointed. Perhaps some aging would help smooth things out. At this point, though, it's a mishmash of massive candi sugar and dark corn syrup sweetness coupled with a somewhat artificial tasting tangy fruitiness and a ton of alcohol. Just big and boozy vs warming. Milk chocolate, vinous, sugary, woody, cherry pie filling. A lot going on here. It's kind of a mess, truthfully, although I suspect it might be a pleasantly surprising cellar experiment. Pretty nice coating mouthfeel. I find myself unusually intrigued by a mediocre beer.

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Photo of Bitterbill
4.22/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

I bought this as part of a gift pack that included Benno and the glass.

Bottled in February 2014.

It pours a hazy, no cloudy rusty brown with a huge head of foam that is great with the lacing.

The smell has quite a bit of bitterness to it yet there's a honey sweetness going on as well. Perhaps some molasses but more interestingly, I can smell some funky notes.

The honey is the first thing I notice in the taste; quite sweet on my palate. The bitterness I noted in the smell is very citrus like in the taste and the the curious funk smell...I get that too. A very complicated beer here, I reckon.

Full bodied, medium carbonation.

This is most definitely a "weird" brew and I reckon a very polarizing one. Put me in the camp that likes it.

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.25/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

As the "little brother" of the Trappist brewing, Stift Engelszell steps into the Strong Dark Ale arena with a bold and majestic ale that carries a regal sense of complexity and with superb drinkability.

Gregorius pours with a deep dark russet brown hue and the expected yeasty rust haze. The beer calmly builds a creamy but short off-white head. Though the beer is restrained with its foamy lacing, it does celebrates brandy-type legging that coats the glass with malt oils with a gentle swirl of the chalice.

Creamy candied aromas and taste begin with an elegant sweetness that's reminescent of grape, hard candy, and powdered sugar. Combined with the robust tastes of grilled dark fruit, blackcurrant, cabernet, mild chocolate, light coffee grind, cola nuts and cashews- the taste is varying but savory and sweet. Added complexities arise with raisin, plumb and prune as the beer warms and the taste buds invite more delicate character. A balance of vinous woods and black pepper balance the sweetness and fruit and close the beer with a dry sweetness that's every bit as wine-like as ale.

Its firm and creamy body is rich, savory and succulent with its initial sip. But finishing warm, its evident that the malts have receded, the bitterness of wood oils rises, and the alcohols pronounce.

And with the same type of satisfaction of Koningshoeven La Trappe Quad, Gregorius has fit the Trappist Strong Dark Ale taste, complexity, and drinakability to a tee.

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Photo of ludachris
4.04/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The body is a muddled, deep rusty brown. Any more haze and it would be opaque. A finger's worth of creamy, dense, light tan head gradually recedes. No lace is left behind.

A sweet streak of alcohol really elevates and intensifies the nose. Rich, toasty nuttiness and caramel lies at its core. A vinous quality with a bit of tart cherry envelopes its sweetness. A bit of soy sauce comes out the more I smell it. Warm banana bread peaks through as well. True to the style, there's no shortage of complexity here.

Sticky raisins and dates come in full and hardy. Sweet alcohol shoots across the palate. Beneath is a rich, bready, toasty essence that gives you plenty to chew on. Ethanol cleans the palate and warms the chest.

Full bodied with a bottle-conditioned foaminess that I love. The alcohol lingers but it's not overdone. Its CO2 level is on par for the style.

I'm happy I'm able to cross another Trappist brewery off the list. I found this to be a very traditional take on the style, and me loving the style, I enjoyed it from beginning to end.

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Photo of majorbase2
4.28/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Pours a dark reddish-reddish brown color with a moderate sized fizzy brown head. Recedes quicker than any head I've seen. Leaves an interesting thin island of a head in the center. Zero lacing on the sides. Definitely some interesting characteristics for a beer this ABV.

Complex aroma of caramel malts, dark fruits, sugar, and candied fruit. A good deal of alcohol.

Very sweet taste of sweet candied caramel, sugar, and ripe fruits. Cherry and raisin are strong, with a dash of fig as well. The sugary nature provides a nice bite of bitterness, and just a hint of sourness. The cherry strengthens as it warms, and it actually starts to take on an element of a Sour with the combination of cherry, bitterness, and sourness. Apple also joins the scene as it warms. Some very nice things going on here, without being quite as harsh as some Belgian Strong beers that you might see.

Remarkably drinkable at 10.5%. Medium bodied, with fairly high carbonation. A bit sticky on the finish. Manages a way to be refreshing despite it's alcoholic nature, a feat not often achieved.

Overall, a very pleasant surprise. Shocked to see this rated so low after trying it. Although this is a bit on the tame side for the style, it still has a very unique and tasty flavor profile. Strongly recommended for any fans of the style.

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Photo of BethanyB
3.58/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Look: Dare I say a bit swampish? It's a medium, murky brown, with spotty tan fizz for a head. Not the most attractive of beers, but the low head retention is somewhat acceptable due to the high alcohol content, and the cloudiness is not atypical for the style.

Smell: Dark fruit scents are both sweet and sharp. Blackberries and fermented grapes give off a Petit Syrah character. Meanwhile, cocoa, figs, and plums add a musky softness. More malt complexity could bring some needed balance and roundness to this fruit-forward bouquet.

Taste: The juicy layers of dark fruit are given bit of a kick by a tangy, marmalade taste, and additional balance is brought on by some honey sweetness. Malt characteristics remain lacking, although the light cocoa on the nose is still present in the taste. Light bitterness settles in straight away. It is a strong and interesting concoction, but in terms of complexity, it is outdone by plenty other examples of the style.

Mouthfeel: The intense dryness is immediately apparent, adding a sort of vaporous sensation to the beginning of each sip. While quite syrupy, some weight is removed by a high level of carbonation. A tingling on the tongue builds until the taste is affected--it's as if one's taste buds have been obliterated by pop rocks.

Overall: A somewhat fascinating specimen, and yet, the flavor and aroma beg for a bit more complexity. The harsh mouthfeel is interesting, but perhaps not I the best of ways, as it begins to distract and detract from the flavor.

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Photo of Brolo75
3.98/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into a snifter

A: Pours a cloudy, hazy mahogany red/brown color, no head retention, lots of yeast in the bottle it was fizzing pretty good, no lacing.

A: Belgian yeast, banana, slight aroma of spice and clove, on the sweet side as the honey comes through pretty strong, dark fruits like raisins and plums, not getting any alcohol on the nose.

T: Follows the nose, Belgian yeast, banana, honey, dark fruits, very smooth and easy to drink, alcohol does come through pretty strong.

M: Medium bodied with very little carbonation because it was gushing when I opened it.

O: This beer while tasty but was all over the place on the rating scale, not a great look or mouthfeel but a solid aroma and a solid taste. I think the gushing effected the look and mouthfeel.

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Photo of BeerIsland
4.45/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A FaceBook alert had me out on the trail for this draft. Deep brown with a sweet head made this an attactive tulip. This is a complex, big beer but tart enough to desire a second. Although Belgian style through and through, the Austrian have provided enough of a different take to stand out. Thanks, Paul, for getting this one on.

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Photo of EricVonStein
3.74/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

pours dark amber brown, opaque and well carbonated, small tan head that settles out quickly.

Plum and prune is there but also more straight up candy sugar from a sweet shop.

Very strong black liqourice flavour, sweet dark dried fruits get pushed out a bit but are there as well. Candied syrup, brown sugar. Very sweet, sugary, maple syrup like flavours. Lots of heat and alcohol is present. Lighter body than its compatriots.

Nice beer for sure but in the canon of trappists its not on the same level as the classics.



Medium bodied

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Photo of DWolf
3.5/5  rDev -10.3%

Photo of groleau
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of Reswald
3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of Casey3236
3.98/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of tykechandler
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of GuyIncognito
3/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

I got this bottle from a friend who works at a distributor. I really wanted to like it- 8th trappist beer, from Austria, made with alsatian wine yeast, etc. etc., but it was just a boozy mess. Unimpressive appearance, strong phenols, and lackadaisical finish. At 9.7 abv it packs a punch, but it is a boring, slightly off, punch.

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Photo of BucBasil
3.07/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

A: Poured from the 330mL bottle into a Kasteel chalice glass. The beer is a cola brown with little to no head.

S: The beer smells of alcohol and strong yeast and dark fruit and spice.

T: Medicinal taste with a strong flavor of alcohol and yeast. I usually like Belgian strong dark ales, but this one is very very strong tasting with not much subtlety. Towards the end this was almost undrinkable because of the medicinal and alcohol taste, but at first it was good.

Overall: This one was advertised as a Trappist beer, and maybe it is, but the flavor is a bit too strong on all fronts, especially the alcohol and yeast flavor. It needs a bit of character outside of "strength" to be considered really great or even really good. Outside of that, it's a fine beer, but not awesome.

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Photo of thatoneguymike
3.92/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

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3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

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3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of MooseBoose
4.34/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

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3.25/5  rDev -16.7%

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4.25/5  rDev +9%

Photo of Beer-A-Lot
4.42/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at the Birch.

A - Nice head. Very dark brown/black color.

S - Bready, yeasty, substantial.

T - Spicy, peppery, raisiny, a bit of leather. Am I drinking a Belgian Strong or a Bordeau?

M - Perfect balance of flavors and booze.

O - An outstanding beer that I hope to have again. This one's good.

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Photo of nkwarrior
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Have tasted from tap and bottle. The tap Gregorius was very flavorful, excellent smell and was smooth on the palate. The appearance was dark brown with no head. All the senses were more intense but not overwhelmed.

The bottled product was also very good. It continues the high expectations and traditions of an excellent Trappists beer.

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Photo of Jason1337
4/5  rDev +2.6%

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Beer rating: 87 out of 100 with 563 ratings