Gregorius | Stift Engelszell

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Stift Engelszell
Austria
stift-engelszell.at

Style: Belgian Strong Dark Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.70%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by benfons on 10-24-2012

BEER STATS
Ratings:
530
Reviews:
151
Avg:
3.84
pDev:
12.5%
 
 
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46
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2.25/5  rDev -41.4%

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3.75/5  rDev -2.3%

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3.5/5  rDev -8.9%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.75/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Brewed in 2012.

Pours a murky brown with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is of malt, honey, dark fruit, and some earthy hop aromas. Taste is much the same with toasted bread and fruity flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of spice bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp but medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer but it's much more earthy and slightly rough compared to how I thought it would be.

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2/5  rDev -47.9%

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3.75/5  rDev -2.3%

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.04/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

new trappist brew, cool! pours super dark brown, pushing black, no glow at all, with a few inches of bubbly khaki head with fine retention. the nose is quite understated, with some smoked malt and Belgian yeast being the only real obvious notes. the flavor is very opposite, extremely robust and aggressive. its malt heavy, but not sweet, its moderately smoky, but not heavy, its really roasty, but not bitter, just chock full of contradictions. complex and will all the fine mouthfeel characteristics we now expect in trappist brews. its brightly carbonated and its fuller body is made light in this way. texture is a little runny, but it doesn't hurt the outcome. kind of a hard beer to classify, but the alcohol is extraordinarily well hidden and the yeast used is new to me, and I like it a lot. overall a tasty brew, new to shelves, and im curious to see what else they make. would not have known this was made with honey if it didn't say so on the label.

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3.75/5  rDev -2.3%

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3.75/5  rDev -2.3%

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3.87/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

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4/5  rDev +4.2%

Photo of metter98
3.68/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A: The beer is very dark brown in color (black when viewed from afar) and has a moderate amount of carbonation visible from the bubbles rising near the edges of the glass. It poured with a two finger high beige head that took a long time to die down and consistently left a thin head covering the surface.
S: There are moderate aromas of Belgian yeast and dark fruits in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell but also has some additional flavors of dark malts. Earthy flavors of yeast linger through the finish. No sweetness is detectable.
M: It feels medium-bodied, slightly smooth and a little dry on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: Considering its strength, the alcohol is remarkably well hidden from the taste, which makes this beer very easy to drink.

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4.25/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

As the "little brother" of the Trappist brewing, Stift Engelszell steps into the Strong Dark Ale arena with a bold and majestic ale that carries a regal sense of complexity and with superb drinkability.

Gregorius pours with a deep dark russet brown hue and the expected yeasty rust haze. The beer calmly builds a creamy but short off-white head. Though the beer is restrained with its foamy lacing, it does celebrates brandy-type legging that coats the glass with malt oils with a gentle swirl of the chalice.

Creamy candied aromas and taste begin with an elegant sweetness that's reminescent of grape, hard candy, and powdered sugar. Combined with the robust tastes of grilled dark fruit, blackcurrant, cabernet, mild chocolate, light coffee grind, cola nuts and cashews- the taste is varying but savory and sweet. Added complexities arise with raisin, plumb and prune as the beer warms and the taste buds invite more delicate character. A balance of vinous woods and black pepper balance the sweetness and fruit and close the beer with a dry sweetness that's every bit as wine-like as ale.

Its firm and creamy body is rich, savory and succulent with its initial sip. But finishing warm, its evident that the malts have receded, the bitterness of wood oils rises, and the alcohols pronounce.

And with the same type of satisfaction of Koningshoeven La Trappe Quad, Gregorius has fit the Trappist Strong Dark Ale taste, complexity, and drinakability to a tee.

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3.93/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

330ml bottle. It's not every day that a new Trappist brewery hits the shelves, so a bit of fanfare is in the air, folks.

This beer pours a hazy, dark reddish mahogany hue, with three fingers of tight, densely foamy beige head, which leaves but a few instances of sea spout lace around the glass as it evenly subsides.

It smells of dark, lightly toasted caramel malt, sozzled black fruit - prunes, wild cherries, and raisins - a molasses/treacle sugar-spike, mild clove and black pepper spice, a slight earthy mustiness, and faint warming alcohol. The taste is somewhat tart dark fruitcake, the essence of honey, as in the way of mead, diluted molasses, a hint of crème fraîche, packaged dates, caramel squares, toasted dark bread, subtle clove, and a further weak mustiness, equaled in its understatement by the very wallflowerish booze.

The carbonation is fairly tame, and at the same time kind of frothy, the body a hearty medium weight, and generally quite smooth, even if a pervasive sourness takes its (less than a) pound of flesh. It finishes off-dry, the fruity, malty, and sugary notes all well tempered by their corresponding sour/tart offsets.

An interesting, and tasty enough take on the entrenched Trappist BSDA - the initial delta indicated on the label - the honey - really taking a back seat to the skulking sour fruit character that comes to fill one's perception of this offering. Which I suppose is just fine, as who really wants another Rochefort/Westy/La Trappe clone (as good as those are), when there's new ground to break? Beer-speaking, of course, as the Abbey itself was founded back in 1293.

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3.5/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a clear deep brown color ale with a generous head with OK retention and light lacing notes. Aroma of caramelized malt with light dry fruits with quite a bit of residual sugar notes. Taste is also a mix between caramelized malt with some dry fruits notes with quite a bit of residual sugar. Body is about average with good carbonation and no apparent alcohol. Not bad bit lacks cohesion and balance as well as those candy ester that the other Trappist have.

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3.95/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

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3.25/5  rDev -15.4%

Photo of superspak
4/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle into chalice, bottled in 1/2013. Pours murky dark reddish brown color with a 1-2 finger dense khaki head with good retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Spotty soapy lacing clings on the glass, with a moderate amount of streaming carbonation. Aromas of big raisin, plum, prune, fig, pear, apple, caramel, toast, molasses, dark bread, honey, herbal, light clove, light bubblegum, and yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good complexity and balance of dark malt and fruity yeast ester notes; with good strength. Taste of big raisin, prune, fig, pear, apple, molasses, caramel, toast, toffee, dark bread, honey, herbal, light clove, light bubblegum, and yeast earthiness. Lingering notes of dark/light fruits, molasses, caramel, toast, toffee, dark bread, clove, honey, herbal, light bubblegum and yeast earthiness on the finish for a while. Big robustness and very nice complexity of dark malt and fruity yeast ester flavors; with a good malt/fruitiness balance and no cloying sweetness after the finish. Medium carbonation and very full bodied; with a very slick, creamy, and lightly syrupy mouthfeel that is good. Alcohol is well hidden with only a small warming present after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice Quadrupel style. All around good complexity, balance, and robustness of dark malt and fruity/spicy yeast flavors; and quite smooth to sip on for the ABV. A very enjoyable offering.

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3.76/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottle from The Birch in Norfolk, Virginia. Served in a cervoise.

Pours a dark chestnut brown with a lasting off-white head. Nice lacing on the sides of the glass and a cap throughout.

The nose starts with some toffee, honey, bread, earth, and a somewhat-woody note. Molasses, brown sugar, and a touch of clove. Slight date character. There's also something in the background that's slightly reminiscent of root beer. Sassafras, maybe? All in all, pretty well integrated and fairly intriguing.

Flavor has a nice honey component alongside some bread and light caramel. Molasses with notes of clove in the background. Not terribly fruity. Dry and toasty.

Medium body and a fairly-dry finish. Ever so slightly astringent. Moderate carbonation.

Overall, very interesting and certainly unique for a Trappist beer. The honey and molasses notes were interesting, with slight spice through the background. I'm looking forward to seeing how this beer/recipe develops over time.

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4.25/5  rDev +10.7%

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3.5/5  rDev -8.9%

Photo of chinchill
3.72/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

on tap at the Thirsty Monk in Asheville.
Pour is a murky brown with almost no head and little lacing.
Smells sweet and fruity, with dried plum dominant. Some faint malt.
Rich fruity taste is mildly sweet and moderate-high in complexity.
A touch of sour keeps the sweetness in check.
Interesting but less compelling than hoped.

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3.84/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

First had: on tap at Monk's, Philly, PA

Dark brown pour, seemingly opaque in the dim light of the bar, topped with a small, wispy head. Aroma of dark bready malts, fairly roasty, coffee and cocoa, yeast, leather. The taste reflected the aroma, pumpernickel, leather, coffee, unsweetened cocoa, prunes, raisins, slight notes of toffee and leafy hops, and some distant fruity phenols that didn't really seem to add or detract from the taste, they were just there. A nice beer overall, very dry, a little alcohol heat, medium body, nowhere near as full as many of the other "big" names in trappist beer, but still nice and drinkable.

I have a couple bottles of this, and I'd like to cellar at least one to see how it holds up over the years, seeing how it is the first commercially available batch from Stift.

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2.5/5  rDev -34.9%

Photo of dcmchew
3.92/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Newest addition to the "Trappist beer order", so it's my chance to find out if it was only a commercial move, or if it really deserves the small stamp on the label (quality-wise).
Starts foaming right after popping the cap. Pours dark brown, almost one finger tan head, nice retention, turns into a thin foamy cap, sticky lacing.
Smell of figs, plums, caramel, toffee, chocolate, soy sauce, honeycomb and a bit of Belgian spiciness.
Very juicy dark fruit up front (raisin, fig, plum, dark grape), a bit musty, mixed with burnt sugar, a bit of lemon zest, some faint cherries and decently strong coffee. Spicy yeasts, with very prickly pepper, faint clove, some aromatic herbs/flowers too. Roasted dark malts and breadiness settle towards the finish, and that's where the alcohol gets really strong (a tiny medicinal hint also, unfortunately). Black tea bitterness is last, mild, accompanied by some lingering roast.
Round body, chewy, medium carbonation that helps the spicy prickle. Aftertaste malty, a nice tasty sweetness and booze (weirdly, a bit tongue-numbing).
A tasty Belgian beer, but might be the weakest of the Trappist bunch. Quite some off notes, hopefully there wasn't something wrong with my bottle. I'll try more, but i don't really think the review will be different.

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Gregorius from Stift Engelszell
3.84 out of 5 based on 530 ratings.
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