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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Stift Engelszell
Austria
stift-engelszell.at

Style: Belgian Strong Dark Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.70%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by benfons on 10-24-2012

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3.83
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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a clear deep brown color ale with a generous head with OK retention and light lacing notes. Aroma of caramelized malt with light dry fruits with quite a bit of residual sugar notes. Taste is also a mix between caramelized malt with some dry fruits notes with quite a bit of residual sugar. Body is about average with good carbonation and no apparent alcohol. Not bad bit lacks cohesion and balance as well as those candy ester that the other Trappist have.

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Photo of JohnGalt1
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle picked up at the COOP tonight for about $6... Poured into my HotD goblet and received a short lasting tan head with little to no lacing... the brew is hazy dark walnut... Looked like quite a bit of yeast/sediment got into the glass during the pour before I noticed.

Nose shows earthy dark maltiness with little in the way of traditional esters or phenols.. mainly just dark malt with a subtle kiss of malt sweetness... does not smell "malty" though if that makes sense.

Flavor is dominated by again sorta dry dark malt essence... a bit of sweetness reminds me of a musky mead... dry dusty, sorta nutty dark malt on the finish.

Okay carbonation and body.. but both seem a little muddy.

Better than average certainly, but I guess I was hoping for more.

3.5's across the board.

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Photo of Cramshawbar
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The nose is off, the taste even more and the alcohol comes through too aggressively.
If this is a strong Austrian example of a trappist beer, they have a long way to go to catch those Belgians.

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Photo of rangerred
3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

330ml bottle into a goblet.

Pours a hazy very dark brown with a fluffy light tan head that doesn't stick around for a very long time. There is a lack of lacing as well.

Aroma is almost like cherry juice. Smells strongly of dark fruit with some caramel and molasses. Not bad but seems a bit sweet.

The flavor hits very hard with the cherry and plum. It is very fruity with the sweetness to go along with it unfortunately. Caramel and honey comes in later with a quick shot of wood and alcohol. Sweetness lingers through the finish with alcoholic warmth.

Overall, this beer is just not that refined and complex. It is actually somewhat disappointing for a Trappist beer. Nothing to go out of your way for.

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Photo of roblowther
3.52/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Woody for the brew. This looks like the stuff. An almost black brown with a very minimal creamy tan head. Smells of raspberries, cherries, and pipe tobacco (I only know because of my Pop and do not condone said products. Blech.) The taste has a lot going on, grapes, cloves, that tobacco thing, and something that tastes like plants smell. I know that's vague, but this review is free, so you get what you pay for. Mouthfeel is slippery and carbonated in a very controlled way. Overall, I don't like this beer quite as much as I want to. It has potential, but the taste just doesn't quite pull things together the way I'd hoped. Still. You won't go wrong. Especially if Woody is keeping you supplied.

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Photo of artoolemomo
3.53/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance- Pours up about a finger's worth of head which looks to have some retention. The body is light and creamy beige while the body is a muddy chestnut brown which shows dull maroon at the bottom of the glass when it is held up to the light. It would appear that the pour was not finished as the head actually increased a bit. The retention is excellent and it appears I will be waiting a few minutes. Some lacing is left behind.

Nose- Not exactly the most enticing aroma at the moment. Burnt raisin which is almost medicinal with some hints of licorice. Roasted malt notes as well. The nose is perkier from the glass and has strong roasted and coffee notes. The less than enticing aromas from the glass begin to mellow and show molasses and brown sugar. Some caramel.

Taste- Burnt raisin along with the same medicinal notes of the nose. Some saccharine cherry notes. Lots of licorice rises in the middle with a little bit of burnt chocolate/coffee finish. At the moment, this beer is not very palatable and shows poor integration. Faint indication of alcohol with a spicy tingle left on the tongue. Some clove. Some brown sugar and molasses but the sweetness of this beer is a little too much. Roasted malt notes as well. Fortunately, some of the licorice and medicinal aspects have faded but it many not be enough to save this beer. The roasted notes start to dominate and the cloying sweetness does not fade. Some honey. Lots of figs, raisins, and dates but they are far too sweet. This probably could use some age but the initial impression does not make me want to get a bottle to age. Brown bread is present in the flavor profile as well. Some spiciness in addition to clove such as nutmeg and cinnamon.

Mouthfeel- Medium to heavy bodied with some syrup to the texture. Somewhat vinuous.

Drinkability- Way too sweet for me but hides the 9.7% alcohol pretty well. And at 6 bucks a bottle, it's a little pricey when you could just pick up a Rochefort.

Overall- It's not a bad beer; it just doesn't work with my palate. It's worth giving a try, especially if you like sweet beers. Or if you don't- buy a bottle and let it sit. Maybe it will mellow out.

Later notes: This does mellow and the sweetness does become bearable. Notes of oak show themselves. I have changed my scores accordingly.

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Photo of bsp77
3.54/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Serving glass: Poured from bottle into Snifter.

Appearance: Chocolate brown with decent tan head.

Smell: Loads of dark fruit, slightly sickly, and some Belgian spiciness.

Taste: Very sweet with plum, raisin, dates and cherry. Some spice notes, with a touch of honey.

Feel: Low carbonation with a sticky body. Finish has some drier mead characteristics but not quite enough.

Overall: Okay Belgian Strong Ale. Simply too sweet and ripe. I prefer their Benno beer by a wide margin, which is some kind of Saison/BPA/Braggot concoction.

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Photo of Tone
3.54/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Pours a black color. 1/4 inch head of an off-tan color. Slight retention and slight lacing. Smells of sweet malt, alcohol, slight roasted malt, hint of hops, and a hint of spices. Fits the style of a Belgian Strong Dark Ale. Mouth feel is smooth and clean, with an average carbonation level. Tastes of alcohol, sweet malt, hint of roasted malt, caramel malt, hint of pale malt, and a hint of syrup. Overall, the body is not reminiscent of a Belgian Strong Dark Ale, but more closely resembles a Doppelbock in flavor.

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Photo of mattsander
3.56/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

A: Murky brown with chestnut edges, tiny bubbles and a wisp of head.

S: Clovey/peppery/spicy, a bit of sour cherry, sweet dark malt... unique in the trappist dark beers.

T: Very spicy with an interesting malt flavor. The finish is tangy and herbal, its kind of an odd beer.

Has the appearance and body of a great dark trappist beer, but lacks the candy sugar / yeast balance I love in this style.

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Photo of BethanyB
3.58/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Look: Dare I say a bit swampish? It's a medium, murky brown, with spotty tan fizz for a head. Not the most attractive of beers, but the low head retention is somewhat acceptable due to the high alcohol content, and the cloudiness is not atypical for the style.

Smell: Dark fruit scents are both sweet and sharp. Blackberries and fermented grapes give off a Petit Syrah character. Meanwhile, cocoa, figs, and plums add a musky softness. More malt complexity could bring some needed balance and roundness to this fruit-forward bouquet.

Taste: The juicy layers of dark fruit are given bit of a kick by a tangy, marmalade taste, and additional balance is brought on by some honey sweetness. Malt characteristics remain lacking, although the light cocoa on the nose is still present in the taste. Light bitterness settles in straight away. It is a strong and interesting concoction, but in terms of complexity, it is outdone by plenty other examples of the style.

Mouthfeel: The intense dryness is immediately apparent, adding a sort of vaporous sensation to the beginning of each sip. While quite syrupy, some weight is removed by a high level of carbonation. A tingling on the tongue builds until the taste is affected--it's as if one's taste buds have been obliterated by pop rocks.

Overall: A somewhat fascinating specimen, and yet, the flavor and aroma beg for a bit more complexity. The harsh mouthfeel is interesting, but perhaps not I the best of ways, as it begins to distract and detract from the flavor.

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Photo of DenisKolkin
3.6/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

330 ml bottle purchased from LCBO for $4 CDN. Served fairly cold into glassware. Nice to see a non Belgian example of a Belgian style. Advertised as 10.5% ABV.

Appearance - dark hazy brown color with some red hues. Tiny half finger of tan head was poured and dissipated quite quickly and left a minuscule soapy collar.

Smell - plenty of dark fruits, figs, plums and prunes, slightly burnt brown sugar, maybe even some grape. Inviting and very fruity. Definitely at least a little reminiscent of the classic dark Belgian ales.

Taste - massive amount of sweetness, burnt sugar, prunes and figs. Boozy too and finishes with some treacle. A bit overwhelming and unbalanced for my tastes. Still reasonable tasty.

Mouthfeel - very sweet and slightly cloying, high level of carbonation, but a bit syrupy, lacks the lightness of others in the style.

Overall - overwhelmingly sweet and cloying, just too much of the figs, prune and treacle combo. Otherwise decent body and enjoyable with a good nose. For the price though, I'd rather enjoy many of the other Belgian alternatives.

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Photo of Dennoman
3.62/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Ah, the (in)famous eigth trappist beer. Let's see what all the fuss is about, shall we?

2012 bottle, 33 cl. Didn't as much gush when opened, but kept frothing up significantly. Took five minutes to pour.

A: Poured with the yeast, as I always do, this looks like a latté. Pours a murky, creamy brown with a massive beige head. Head disappates to a half finger in ten minutes or so. Fairly appealing, but strange color.

S: Burnt toast and yeasty aroma, something slightly acidic resembling fresh coffee bean roast, even though there's no coffee in here. Roasted malts I'm guessing. No hops to speak of.

T: Roasty onset, smooth middle and a roasty bitter finish. Not very complex, but roastier than any of the other trappists. This leans more towards the stout spectrum of things. Slight booze undercurrent.

M: Creamy, smooth, almost powdery and dry finish. This is one of those beers that MAKE you thirsty. Not great, but befitting the style I guess.

O: Definitely one of the better trappists, but so unusual it's hard to brand it as thus. Nice roastiness that's reminiscent of a decent stout, but it's mostly the muddy brown color and strange powdery mouthfeel that just don't do it for me. Would recommend and drink if given to me, but not likely buy again until it drops in price here, which is likely to happen in the next few years.

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Photo of seand
3.64/5  rDev -5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Mine was a crazy gusher. I had a glass ready, but I wasn't expecting it and it was so quick that I lost half the beer, maybe more, even though I had a glass ready.

A: The beer the I did manage to get into a glass is a dark brown, with not too much head left besides some surface film and a ring around the rim, which leaves spotty lacing.

S: Densely sweet molasses and licorice.

T: Very dense molasses and roasted malt to start, becoming drier and roastier towards the finish. There's a lot going on towards the beginning especially, where the flavor is very densely packed.

M: Full body, medium but quite prickly carbonation.

Overall, not bad. I'm not super impressed, either, though my first impression of cleaning up half the beer from my counter and seeing only the other half in my glass likely did not help. I may have gotten a weird bottle, though.

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Photo of smcolw
3.66/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 3.5

Solid brown color and very cloudy. Strong initial head, but it settles quickly to a single layer of bubbles. Some spotty lace.

Burnt sugar and dark caramel are the first smells I detect. I also sense large pit fruit like plum and apricot.

Semi-sweet--that is to say it is less sweet than the caramel smell. It's also less burnt than the nose. The body is relatively thin. Strong darker (chocolate or dark crystal) malt flavor. Very warming from the bountiful alcohol level. The swallow enhances this and has an essence of cherry brandy. High carbonation level.

Very flavorful, but not really balanced. The mouthfeel is closer to soda than most beers.

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Photo of RblWthACoz
3.66/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

My first of the new Trappist ales.

This is definitely a dark ale. Carries robust character. Feel is good. I do have to note that it seems almost Flemish in execution. It has that cherry wood character thing going on. I don't think this would be intentional, but I like it. As a Trappist production, I would expect it not to be.

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Photo of metter98
3.68/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A: The beer is very dark brown in color (black when viewed from afar) and has a moderate amount of carbonation visible from the bubbles rising near the edges of the glass. It poured with a two finger high beige head that took a long time to die down and consistently left a thin head covering the surface.
S: There are moderate aromas of Belgian yeast and dark fruits in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell but also has some additional flavors of dark malts. Earthy flavors of yeast linger through the finish. No sweetness is detectable.
M: It feels medium-bodied, slightly smooth and a little dry on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: Considering its strength, the alcohol is remarkably well hidden from the taste, which makes this beer very easy to drink.

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Photo of Darkmagus82
3.68/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Poured from bottle into a chalice glass

Appearance – The beer pours a deep mahogany color with a small cream colored head. The head fades rather fast leaving a decent level of lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell- The aroma is fruity and sweet with a lot of dark fruits of cherry, prune and raisin as well as a good dose of caramel. Along with these is a bit of a caramel smell as well as some lightly sour aromas.

Taste – The taste begins with a rather sweet flavor with lots of cherry and prune mixed with a bit of caramel upfront. There is a bit of yeast and a bready flavors upfront with the sweet which grow stronger as the taste advances. Notes of a little banana and spice come to the tongue as the yeast grows slightly stronger. A small amount of alcohol comes to the tongue more toward the end of the taste mixing with a lighter herbal and some more bready flavors. In the end, with the warming alcohol tastes mixed with the fruit and bready flavors, one is left with a rather warming and sweet taste to be left on the tongue.

Mouthfeel- The body of the beer is on the average side for a beer of its strength with a carbonation level that is on the slightly lower side. Both are good for the more warming characteristics of the brew, but slightly under carbonated for the very fruity flavors of the beer. Overall though it is quite alright.

Overall – A rather decent Belgian Quad that is on the sweeter side but still quite appropriate in taste in terms of its quad classification. Even though it is under most of the other Trappist beers, in my opinion, it is still rather tasty and well worth a try.

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Photo of gr0g
3.68/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Very dark brown, not quite black. Good head retention that leaves streaks of tan lace. Aroma has more dark, toasted malt than dark fruit notes, unlike many other BDSAs. A little bit of sweetness on the nose that doesn't smell like Belgian candi sugar. Given that honey is listed among the ingredients, I'll attribute it to that. Faint solvent-like alcohol detracts a bit.

The robust, malty flavor is nonetheless well-balanced. Some sweetness upfront is attenuated by hop bitterness. Toasted malt is prevalent, almost stout/porter-like in that respect. Carbonation is active and abundant but not harsh. There's a slight alcohol note that's OK for a nearly 10% ABV beer.

If I didn't know this was a Trappist brewery out of Austria I'd think it was an American brewery trying their hand at the style, what with the seemingly aggressive hopping to keep things balanced. It's a good beer but not nearly as refined as the established Trappist offerings.

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Photo of ehammond1
3.7/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle (2012)

Thanks for opening this with me, JealousChalice!

Mahogany and dark brown with a creamy brown head of very small bubbles. Leaves sheets of stick down the glass.

Roasted malt, dark fruits, distinctive Belgian yeast, and some ash and char round out the aroma.

The flavor is very reminiscent of a Belgian dubbel, with dark fruits and distinctive, earthy yeast making up the bulk of the flavor, along with a coffee/char/ash tray flavor lingering in the background.

Medium bodied with creamy carbonation.

Good, but nothing paradigm shifting.

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Photo of BlackHaddock
3.7/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

1st beer of 2013: 33cl bottle poured @ home into a Westvleteren chalice, just to make it feel at one with the Trappist world. Some sediment got into the chalice but the beer still looked fine: reddy brown body with a full tanned foaming head.

The nose is malts all the way: molasses and a yeastiness with red berries actually lead the aroma stakes with traces of off Port notes adding a slightly vinegar feel to the overall smell.

The taste was a heavenly blend/mix of flavours: matly, fruity and yeasty. Semi-sweet with that aforementioned Port off-vinegar feel keeping the brew interesting and different.

Body wise it is fine and I thought the beer well worth finding and tasting. A long way from being the best or even one of the best ’Trappist’ brews but never the less a good beer.

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Photo of theruckus33
3.7/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle poured into snifter.

A: Pours a beautifu mahogany brown with slight toffee cream head. Dissipates into a thin head that leaves a good lacing with some alcohol legs. Under the light taste I notice a lot of sediment and hop flakes floating in the beer, not completely appealing.

S: Fruity and funky, smell apple, grapefruit, with that typical Belgian yeast funk.

T: Apricots, Granny Smith Apples, grapes, and bubble gum

M: Stays on the mouth for a short time,

O: Okay, it's super rare, so it is worth a buy for "rarity sake". But I wasn't very wowed.

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Photo of Brenden
3.71/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

This ale from the world's most recent trappist brewery is a thick medium brown color. It develops a moderately-sized light brown head with equally moderate retention and a pretty good bit of patching on the glass.
This beer has hints of the sweetness I'd expect from the style without going full on with it. It makes for an interesting character, perhaps something a little different in the trappist arena. There is honey used in the brewing process, something that shows in a particular character without the sweetness that's lost in the brewing process. There are, however, notes of toffee and molasses along with the earthiness and bready malts. Just a hint of dark fruits are in there also. There's an earthiness from both yeast and hops that comes out more strongly on the tongue. The note of clove is subtle. While unusual, it does make for a pretty good beer.
This one doesn't have all the big but balanced richness of the greats, but it's certainly not bad. It has enough body, though I might prefer a touch more, and displays a little dryness coming into the finish.

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Photo of chinchill
3.72/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

on tap at the Thirsty Monk in Asheville.
Pour is a murky brown with almost no head and little lacing.
Smells sweet and fruity, with dried plum dominant. Some faint malt.
Rich fruity taste is mildly sweet and moderate-high in complexity.
A touch of sour keeps the sweetness in check.
Interesting but less compelling than hoped.

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Photo of 1000lbgrizzly
3.72/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A: Dusty mahogany with a tan head. No lacing. Bottle art is uninspiring.

S: A little subdued; tart cherry, some faint yeast/woody malt.

T: Verging on sour, with cherries at the forefront, a drying mineral yeast finish. Hints of sweetness.

M: Seesaws from extremely velvety to medium bodied and prickled carbonation. Interesting, and works with the rest of the beer.

O: Just didn't quite cut it for me. Pretty good, but a little too timid on the aroma and taste- possibly suffering from the high alcohol?

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Photo of ryan1788a5
3.72/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

11.2oz bottle poured into a chalice. Bottling date of 3/2013 printed on the label.

A: Chestnut brown color. Good clarity. Tan head settle into a thin cap. Little to no lacing.

S: Sweet on the nose. Lots of honey. Brown bread, crust, cocoa. A touch leathery. Bread pudding, raisin and craisin. Whiff of solvent alcohol. Tropical esters of pineapple, asian pear, and tangerine. Lightly peppery and phenolic. Yeasty undertones.

T: Sweet and honeyed up front, though it dries. Grape skin. Raisin and craisin. Brown bread, bread pudding. Brown cocoa. Alcohol comes on a bit strong, but checks itself just enough. Pineapple and tangerine ester. A touch of medicinal phenol comes out more as the beer warms. Earthy yeast is a constant in the background. Very dry finish of brown cocoa, brown bread, and alcohol.

M: Thick in body. Silky smooth texture. High attenuation and gentle, scrubbing carbonation provide lift and give it a light feeling on the palate. The mouthfeel goes a long way to enhance drinkablilty.

O: Certainly not as complex as its Trappist brethren. Not bad stuff, but the expectations will be very high. It just feels a little too plain-Jane, especially when compared to a Chimay or a Rochefort, which is exactly what consumers will do.

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Gregorius from Stift Engelszell
3.83 out of 5 based on 518 ratings.
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