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Original Honey Brown Extra Rich Lager (Beer Brewed With Honey) | Genesee Brewing Co. / Dundee Brewing Co.

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Original Honey Brown Extra Rich Lager (Beer Brewed With Honey)Original Honey Brown Extra Rich Lager (Beer Brewed With Honey)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Genesee Brewing Co. / Dundee Brewing Co.
New York, United States
geneseebeer.com

Style: American Amber / Red Lager

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 4.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by BeerAdvocate on 07-06-2001

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Photo of Vengeance526
3.35/5  rDev +7.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a light copper color with only a very faint head that leaves a good amount of lacing.

Lots of malt present in the aroma. A slight artifical honey smell lingers. Mildly sweet.

The sweetness of the malt is felt in the taste, with notes of honey, caramel, and a very faint touch of hops in the background. Seems a little too sweet at times but it's really not too overwhelming.

Mouthfeel is fairly smooth and this is an easy beer to put away. Could be a good session to start someone new to craft beer on.

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Photo of Bockrules
3.43/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

poured from the bottle into a pint glass

A - Pours a copper color with tons of bubbles streaming to a 1-finger white head. Head falls apart around half way down the glass. Leaves decent lacing.

S - Moderate smell of sweetness on musty malt background. Can pick out a few adjuncts. Smell dies out as it's in the glass

T - Honey up front followed by a very malty body with a hint of honey riding on top. Incredibly smooth honey finish with just a hint of adjuncts. Leaves a sort of strange bitter-honey aftertaste that isn't necessarily bad, just different. The hop and honey flavors in the body seem to clash a bit, but not a bad beer.

M - Highly carbonated with a thin/medium body. Could use a thicker body and done down the carbonation.

D - This is definitely a Macro drinkers micro. Very sweet honey flavor is about the only thing that differentiates it from other lagers. I remember this being one the first beers that caused me to become interested in "better beer." I also gave it to my now roommate freshman year, and it was the first beer he had in college. So fond memories from a mediocre beer that seems as though it were a macro crossed with root beer and honey.

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Photo of shohog
3.92/5  rDev +25.6%
look: 5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 12oz bottle into a pint glass. Amazing clear honey color and a sweet smell. Taste was unexpectedly pleasant. I had never tried this lager before and was very pleased. It was so easy to drink. This is a great beer to have 6 or more of in a hurry. A classic "lawn mower" beer. I will most definetly be stocking up some more of these come summertime. It is so much better than BMC. I was not expecting to like this beer and mistakenly thinking it would be like most other lagers by BMC lacking taste.

I'll be bock!!

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Photo of applky
3.77/5  rDev +20.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4.5

Unimpressive? Sure. Drinkable? Most definitely. This beer, unlike other mass produced lagers, actually tastes really good. Yes, perhaps a bit sweet, but this is a great beer to go to after having one or two already if you want to mellow out. Nothing super special, but not deserving of the bad rap, I feel. I'm a huge proponent of wildly complex, expensive, artsy beers, but sometimes, you don't want a Quad or an Double IPA. Sometimes, all you want is something that goes down easy and tastes good too. There are definitely better session beers out there, but this isn't bad.

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Photo of budgood1
2.95/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

a re-review. original 10-18-02.

pours out a clear light amber colour. fizzy little head and little lace. a slight grainy aroma with touches of toffee and hints of honey sweetness. no hops to be detected. a fairly sweet and smooth flavour with a dry crispness in the finish. i get more of a sugary sweetness from the maltiness rather than a bold genuine honey taste, but honey is present and accounted for. there is a washed out grassy hop flavour to be detected but adds little to the taste profile. ghostly amounts of bitterness to balance out the sweetness. the body is rather light in substance with a mouthfeel that is smooth, albeit a touch watery. drinkability is good... just for the fact that there is nothing offensive; it has a high quaffability/quenchibility factor, and would be approachable to those in the macro/light beer crowd looking for a bit more flavour and substance.

it's weird...after six years, i basically feel the same way about this beer as i did as a relative newbie to BA. i altered my scores very little, but slightly improved my review.

i bought a sampler pack to review all the dundee beers, and thought this would be a good place to start as this offering was the only one i had previously sampled.

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Photo of diabecktic
3.05/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance:
A lightly tanned head forms quickly and is somewhat weak (< 1 finger); retention is minimal but lacing is pretty good. Rising carbonation is present in small amounts. The beer isn't really as brown as the bottle would infer - it's more of a translucent (light) caramel color.

Smell:
The armoas are quite sweet; malt character is dominant, but there is a bit of honey (it smells kind of "processed" though) in the nose. Based on what the box says, you'd expect it to smell more hoppy than malty. Unfortuantely, that doesn't seem to be the case here. It's a misleading collection of scents, but it's not bad.

Taste:
I'd say that the palate matches the nose fairly well; maltiness dominates with a touch of honey. Hop character is minimal-to-non-existant. It's basically sweet, but not too sweet; unfortunately, this also destroys any semblance of balance.

Mouthfeel:
This beer is kind of heavy in the mouth. I found it to be kind of "sticky" - much like the honey that's supposed to be in here. Crispness is minimal, as the beer just seems to linger after each sip.

Drinkability:
It's a bit too thick and sweet to drink quickly, so I would advise against doing so. The flavor isn't complex to the point where you would want to avoid drinking quickly, but it would seem to make a decent session beer.

Summary:
I found this beer a bit too unbalanced and thick for my liking. It seemed to lack crispness and contain a bit to much of what I would call "processed" flavors. Based on what the bottle and box said I should expect, I wouldn't not have guessed that this brew would taste like it did. It's not particularly bad, but I don't think it's too special, either.

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Photo of dudecandle
2.99/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: Poured from a twist-off 12 oz bottle into a pint glass. No head retention at all, golden color, more of the 'honey' color than the 'brown' which I at least thought would show up.
S: Honey, maybe a hint of apple and caramel on the side.
T: Again, honey dominates, though that apple shows up again with a slight maltiness.
M: Best part of it. Pretty good complement of rounded body with carbonation.
D: Overall, I'm a fan of the body, but anything this sweet is off-putting and makes me glad that there are only two in the variety pack I just got. The flavor isn't terrible, but 12 ounces of it seems to last too long.

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Photo of TheTrevor
3.38/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This beer poured a orange-copper collor with a two-finger head that didn't last too long. The smell is sweet with malts and honey. The taste starts off with some sweetness that reflects the smell with a tiny bit of hops in the middle and a bit of honey in the backend. The beer itself is a little watery with a decent amount of fine carbonation. This is a very drinkable beer and is a good starter beer for people who aren't sure if they like beer or not.

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Photo of donteatpoop
3.32/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Haven't had this in ages. Got this out of a sampler pack from Dundees, so far everything else I tried was excellent (porter and pale bock lager)

It's amazing how much this looks and smells like a cream soda; from the clear honey color to the copious amounts of white head; smells very sweet... High-fructos corn syrup sweet... Probably just the honey.

Tastes of malts, very sweet; I can't even get a hint of hops in here.

No bitter after taste, but it is perhaps a bit watery.

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Photo of redjameskidd
3.37/5  rDev +8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

One of the best beers out there for introducing people to something outside their familiarity zone, and one of the two beers (Blue Moon being the other) that made me enjoy beer in the first place.

I haven't had one for a while, but I imagine it would be much too sweet for me now. Still, a very easy-drinking pint. As others have pointed out, it's sort of funny that it's called "brown," as it clearly is not. In a pint glass, it pours a deep orange sort of color.

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Photo of oelergud
3.13/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Regular 12oz brown glass bottle with a twist-off cap. The label shows a honey bee.
Clear light honey body with a slightly off white head. Low retention and lace.
Great honey scent with undertones of hops and spices.
Standard lager flavor with a touch of honey. The aftertaste is a mild honey hops mix.
Medium body with a bit of coating.
Good drinkability.

-Oelergud

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Photo of NJpadreFan
2.38/5  rDev -23.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Dundee- Honey Brown

Haven't had this since college back in the early 90's.

A- Light copper brown, clear with a small quick fizzing head.
S- Sweet brown sugar with a dollop of honey.
T- Sweet honey and brown sugar with a mild iced tea flavor. Light sugary finish.
M- Again, sweet. Just honey and sugar throughout. Slight earthy tea leaf feel in the end.

Overall- Honey and brown sugar not much else. Bland.

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Photo of Tone
3.18/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a clear, light amber color. 1/5 inch head with slight retention and no lacing. Smells of strong malt or grain. Fits the style, well enough. Tastes of a clean lager with a stronger body. There's just the slightest either skunkiness or perhaps adjunct in the flavor as well. The malts are relatively weak, but noticeable in the aftertaste. Smooth, average crispness, really low carbonation. Overall, a decent, more full bodied lager.

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Photo of ljbrisson
3.59/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Pours a clear amber into my pint glass with a finger-width white head which quickly bubbles to a very thin cap. Aroma is malty and sweet, with lots of honey, caramel, grain, butterscotch, toffee, a hint of sweet hay. Mouthfeel is extremely thin, a little sticky, with medium carbonation, but refreshing - I loved this beer's mouthfeel. Taste is very sweet, same as nose but not as intense, very mild, with a creaminess in the back that is very inoffensive, lots of malt with little if any hop bitterness to speak of. The taste does not support the great texture of the beer. The only hindrance to drinkability would be boredom, as this beer is a little bland. Overall, this is a solid brew with no huge flaws, it just doesn't have the oomph factor it needs to be a great brew.

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Photo of NEhophead
2.9/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

12 fl oz brown bottle; served in a tumbler.

Watery thin, dull copper in color. Intensely carbonated off-white head that evaporates rather quickly. Condensed lacing with no strength.

Caramel malt sweetness; honey, faint vanilla. Adjunctory-filled grain base: rice, corn, astringent wheat. Hints of musty banana esters.

Mildly sweet caramel, malted wheat that really thins out after a moment to a bland, grainy base. The grainy flavor at mid-sip isn't quite unpleasant, just bland. Alcohol with an artificial honey sweetness that gives off a certain bulky-sweet off-flavor.

Light bodied; very carbonated with a slightly slick mouthfeel on account of the late sweetness. On par grainy texture for a lager, but the slickness seems out of place.

Bland base with a an obnoxiously artificial sweetness makes for a pretty crappy lager. This used to be a 'beer of choice' in high school versus the macros...thank God that my palate has matured.

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Photo of Dodo2step
2.79/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

P- Legends Bar in in Mechanicsburg

A- a light amber brown color. Little head and not all the bad in appeal.

S- hint os honey but mostly dry malts.

T- a malt honey type of flavor. It is like drinking water with malt vinegar and splashes of honey in it.

M- weak and watery. Sour malt as well.

D- Not overly bad in drinkability but the flavor prevents me from having anymore.

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Photo of Vendetta
2.16/5  rDev -30.8%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 1 | overall: 2

Original Rating Date:
September 6, 2008

Pours more pale than I expected. Not much on the nose, a little bit of honey malt. No hops. Taste is very malty with a touch of honey but overall not impressive. Beer is done in for me by a stinging overcarbonation. Stay away from this one.

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Photo of wiseguy142
3.08/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Pours pure golden like a Dortmunder with a white head that quickly disappears to nothing and no lacing. Decent visible carbonation. Aroma is of.. corn? And honey. Reminds me of PBR but with honey. I'd give it a higher score if it weren't for the style category it was in. It's not bad, but compared to craft beer I don't think it lives up. Taste starts out like sipping some tea with honey- the sweetness from the honey but with the more assertive, not candy like malt character. I can see why people complain about this beer a bit because it definitely has a bit of a "macro" taste to it and the honey is sort of the redeeming factor. Again, PBR with honey. But, as a Rochesterian, and thus a supporter of High Falls brewing, as well as a fan and supporter of craft beer, this beer is a good step above anything BMC puts out. There is malt. It doesn't taste cheap or just in there by accident. This beer has some purpose and some flavor other than getting you drunk. They honey is very refreshing.. I actually can't even think of another beer with honey I've had that I can drink so easily. Most of the time honey is in the super complicated DFH brews that take you an hour to drink and an hour of research to understand. This is a no nonsense, straight to the point, honey lager that is very enjoyable and a good step into craft brewing.

I remember buying this a lot right when I got into craft beer. I think my taste has evolved since then, which is good, but the things that drew me to this beer are still there.

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Photo of bmwats
3.2/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into pint glass.

A: Light amber, pours a big white head. Dissipates quickly. Very little lacing. Carbonation continues to rise throughout experience.

S: Not much here, but a little malt, and a hint of honey not surprisingly.

T: Light malty taste, with a subtle sweetness.

M: Light almost syrupy feel. Sweet aftertaste sticks around in the mouth. A little cloying.

D: Light and refreshing.

Nothing special, but an easy drinking, serviceable quaff.

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Photo of yesyouam
3.1/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

JW Dundee's Original Honey Brown Lager is a clear, sparkling golden lager with a thin white film of a head. The aroma is faint; sweet and tangy from light grain and honey. It's pretty light bodied and reasonably smooth. It's a bit watery and quite bubbly. The finish is crisp. It has a very mellow flavor-- smooth and a bit sweet. Light grain and honey are abundant and there is hardly any bitterness. It's a very unoffensive session ale that I would drink on purpose.
(rated Jul 22, 2008)

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Photo of colts9016
2.95/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: A dark amber color little to no head.
Nose is malty, a hint of hops and honey.
Taste is a subtle malt with little to no hops. The lingers one the back of the beer to give it an okay finish.. Overall the finish is clean with just a touch of honey. A good game beer.

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Photo of WakeandBake
2.87/5  rDev -8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Light golden brown. Hint of white head.Sweet/grainy aroma,no hint of hops.Mild wheaty taste with a ton of sticky sweetness. Very thin, medium carbonation. A lighter, refreshing beer.I get this sometimes when on sale,nice to take to a party and share with the Macro crowd.

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Photo of jujubeast6000
2.83/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Reviewed 1/14/2006 (12oz bottle):

Pours a light golden brown color body, with a low-medium white head, that is diminishing. Has an aroma of hops, and some nuttiness? Taste has some nuttiness. Has a light body, and a lightly hoppy taste. A nice clean finish to the beer.

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Photo of 6stringfunk
3.15/5  rDev +1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Has a very beautiful appearance. Color is a rich amber. Did not produce much head when poured. The smell of honey is very slight. The taste of this beer is that of malt and hops. The honey taste is most noticeable on the finish. I was expecting a bit more "honey" and was slightly dissappointed as it came across as a regular lager that was slightly sweeter than others I've tried.

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Photo of MTNboy
3.31/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

It has a great color to the body. This beer poured with a bronze almost gold color. It had a great head two and a half fingers of head with a lot of retainability. Tight off white lace. The aroma is sweet and candy like with just a little bit of fruity hops to it. It has a sweet and slimy mouthfeel. The flavor is crisp and sweet at the same time. It has a bitter cady like taste.

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Original Honey Brown Extra Rich Lager (Beer Brewed With Honey) from Genesee Brewing Co. / Dundee Brewing Co.
Beer rating: 3.12 out of 5 with 1,420 ratings
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