Original Flag Porter 1825 | Elgood and Sons Ltd

very good
98 Ratings
Original Flag Porter 1825Original Flag Porter 1825

Brewed by:
Elgood and Sons Ltd
England, United Kingdom

Style: English Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Now brewery by Darwin:

Added by stirgy on 09-30-1998

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 98 |  Reviews: 88
Photo of Sammy
3.6/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Serviceable porter. I find it hard to understand why this is listed as retired as its available and their standard porter. Pours a handsome black with lots of white soapy head. Porter coffee aroma. Medium or less mouthfeel,e asy drinkability, with licorice and coffee grounds and nuttiness in there. Significant roast.

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Photo of Knapp85
3.33/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This poured out as a semi thick looking black tar liquid. The head came and went pretty quickly. The smell was heavily roasted and burnt smelling with some bitterness on the nose. The taste was kind of charred in my opinion, it was very burnt tasting. There wasn't too much else happening in the taste, I was able to get much of a hop flavor or some kind of dark fruits. The mouthfeel was decent had a dry feel to it. Overall I don't think I'll be missing this beer since it's been retired.

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Photo of emerge077
3.75/5  rDev -1.8%

Photo of ygtbsm94
3.41/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Aroma roasted malt, nuttiness, faint coffee & mocha. Taste chocolate, malt, faint lactose, coconut, & coffee;, slight roasty bitter finish.

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Photo of Jason
3.82/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Minimal carbonation after a hard pour yields a bubbly tight tan lace, leather brown colour shows only a touch of chill haze.

Dark chocolate with hints of charcoal and malt sweetness as well as a light dark fruitiness.

Slick and creamy mouth feel with a very light carbonation, medium bodied with a malt sweetness that has character. Hints of dark chocolate, burnt grain and mildly soft charcoal. Hops are mild and the malt comes back with a cookie-like character. Finishes semi-dry with a light alcohol in the back.

A bit of a novelty brew, decent but not something I’d have more than a couple of times.

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Photo of WVbeergeek
3.28/5  rDev -14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appears a deep nearly opaque brown amber tone with a milky tan head that leaves a miniscule amount of lacing. Aroma has mild chocolate roasts, creamy coffee notes, and some hints of fruit tones hidden somewhere in there. Taste is very good just lighter flavored for me same classic coffe/chocolate notes with the dark roasts sitting on the palate this beer works well together with a balancing light hop bitterness a session beer just a little too pricey. Mouthfeel is creamy textured medium in body classic representation of an English porter just nothing extraordinary going on. Drinkability is a nice session just lacking some flavor to be one of my staples.

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Photo of Billolick
3.88/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ouncer, Freshness dating. Poured very dark brown, almost black, tiny bubble white head, leaves nice wispy lacing. Slight nose of coffee beans and burnt malt. Light bodied, nice mellow notes of coffee, chocolate and vanilla. Smooth brit style porter, understated, mellow and tasty. I read some of the other reviews, some folks were dissapointed by this brew. Not me, this was a tasty, nicely crafted Porter.

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Photo of feloniousmonk
3.59/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Drinking from a nice, warmed-up bottle...
Color is deep, dark brown, showing some reddish transparency around the sides and bottom, with a short, off-white head.
Aroma: delirious perfection! Rich, roasted coffee at first, then anise, big-time, spice, molasses, dark rum, more, ...I drank it in the nose long and deep, savoring every sniff!
Flavor from nose continue in the taste, but one thing really sticks out significantly: a lack of depth and a shallow mouthfeel. Barely pierces the palate, this one, and the finish is far too short and forgettable. I want a good porter to wrestle a little with my tongue, and more importantly, to really get comfortable and rest happily on the palate, spreading flavor all around the mouth, creating an overwhelmingly unctuous experience. Does. Not. Happen.
This enjoyably dark, twisted melange of flavor exists for a moment, then is gone long before you'd like it to.
Drinkability? Boy, you can toss them back, but the experience is too disappointing to want to revisit. Alas.
(Thanks to JohnnyDuvel for the sample!)

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Photo of NickThePyro
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Zorro
4.1/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a clear dark brown beer that you can just barely pass light through. Red Highlights show when held up.

Very aromatic porter here. Lots of roasted malt and chocolate in the scent. Fainter odors of coffee and fruit.

Taste is fruity and acidic on the first taste with a roasted malt after taste. Mild sweetness and chocolate flavor comes net and finishes with the wine like finish of lightly roasted coffee.

Mouthfeel is good and just right.

Drinkability is this beers best quality. Tasty yet not tiring, restrained alcohol level, good aroma and solid mouth feel all combines to make superior quaffer.

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Photo of jdhilt
3.34/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Very dark, heavy beer. Long lasting thick brown carbonation. Somewhat hoppy at the finish. Brewer is using the same recipe they used in 1825. Overall a good porter.

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Photo of wl0307
3.72/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This beer is NOT retired. Purchased at the UTOBEER stall in the Borough Market, S. London. BB 06/06, served cool in a 500ml jug.

A: deep mahogany hue, poured with a thick off-white froth settling slowly to a thin cap sustaining throughout the drink.
S: rawish, vividly chewy malt grist... fuller than full on the aroma; chunks of aromatic, vanilla-ish dark chocolates balanced with a dense, sour-sweet fruity+vinous edge like semi-fermented (or almost rotten) dried dates+plums+grapes; all elements of aroma serve to highlight an intense wave of earthy and slightly stinky note as in sticky treacles as well as blue cheese(!)... (I guess that's the work of yeasts?) Overall, the aroma is distinctive and shows the depth of a good dark ale.
T: surprisingly light on the palate (as opposed to the rich aroma), with smoothly sweet coffee-flavoured toffee and roasted honey-coated cashew-nuts to dominate; quickly ensued by an even lighter flow of sour-sweet dark fruits with a slightly tangy edge of red grape-juice and a sour-edge of plum-juice... A restrained, shallow-bodied licorice herbal taste of hops as well as a soothingly dryish roast-malty tinge (like Dark Mild) are left at the end of the sides of the tongue, where the dark fruitiness still hovers like the aftertaste of dried black dates. Interestingly, there's more aroma than flavour lingering in the short finish.
M&D: lighter-than-expected-bodied, soft on the texture and the finish falls a bit watery; but the flavour is quite typical of an English Porter to me, with a balanced profile b/w fruitiness and dark malts and a rather smooth texture easy to quaff for both "real porters" and casual drinkers alike. It's just that, the divergence b/w the much-promising aroma and the underperforming flavour comes as a bit of surprise to my naive expectation...

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Photo of DeadeyeOTDO
4/5  rDev +4.7%

Photo of scruffwhor
4.12/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance- An inky dark brown slash mild black hue. Head was a light tan. Lots of sediment at the bottome of the pint glass. Uncommon for most porters.

Smell- Lots of deep roasted malts better described as drak roasted coffee beans. The hops presence was a little rye like in aroma.

Taste- A little creamy note added to the dark roast coffee beans. With some hints of tobacco and wood. The malt presence is very strong with only very subtle bitterness that mixes well with the malts.

Mouthfeel- Mostly silky smooth but with a little dry Irish/cream stout qualities.

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Photo of champ103
4.34/5  rDev +13.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

A: Pours a dark ruby brown color. A very light tan head forms with pour retention. A light film of lace.
S: Roasted malt with caramel, chocolate, and light coffee. A sour, almost tannin like fruitiness.
T: Not very complex, but a perfect blend of roasted malt, chocolate, caramel, and coffee. I light sourness that follows the nose.
M/D: A medium body that is creamy and smooth. Exceptionally easy to drink. Something I could session all day.

This is a really good English Porter. It has pretty much everything I look for in the style. Highly recommended for people like me that love the style.

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Photo of Gusler
4.03/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The pour a very deep garnet to brown, the head modest in size, creamy in its consistency, with decent lace to cover the glass. Nice malt nose, toasted grains, light coffee, and even a very slight hint of yeast. Malt front, top is middling in feel, the finish sparingly carbonated, nicely hopped, and droughty malt dry aftertaste. The quintessential “Porter”, made the old way, and mores the rub there aren’t more around.

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Photo of ccrida
4.36/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 oz. bottle poured into my Hommel snifter, Flag Porter is a dark garnet black with only a wisp of a collar, a few large bubbles.

Smell is a bit of sweet caramel malt, chocolate malt balls, slightly charred and a touch sour, but in good ways that are most appropriate to the style.

Taste is nice chocolate malt, neither sweet or bitter but very smooth, a slight lactose character. Again, just a slight amount of char and lactose on the slightly bitter finish, a very nice English porter.

Mouthfeel is lighter, with just a bit of crisp, tight carbonation.

Drinkability is very good, a light and tasty porter for sure. I heard this beer is no longer made, which would be a real shame both as a good beer and for it's historical significance. However, it's still readily available in my area, so hopefully that's not the case!

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Photo of Dogbrick
3.71/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The instription on the bottle does indeed say "Brewed with 1825 yeast salvaged from a sunken vessel in the English Channel using an original 19th century recipe". While the latter part of that statement is not too hard to accept, come on. How much yeast could have been on that boat for them to still be bottling it? Regardless, this was a very good beer. This was an easy-to-drink Porter. Not as good as the other Porter related to a sunken ship (The Edmund Fitzgerald of course) but still robust and nutty. The palate was hard to describe, as it managed to be mellow and slightly bitter at the same time. Pours a deep dark brown with a quickly diminishing head. A warm, earthy brew. Very good. Hope they find another ship full of this one.

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Photo of RoyalT
3.94/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance – Very dark ruby black with visible carbonation and no head.

Smell – The sherry and roasted malt aroma is offset slightly by a small showing of hops. There’s also a deep, dark sweetness to this one. Ripe apricots, peaches, and plums soaked in molasses come to mind.

Taste – Yes, there’s definitely a hop balance to this one. The sweetness from the nose takes a step back as the roasted malt rules the show.

Mouthfeel – In between medium and full in the body with a somewhat dry, refreshing finish.

Drinkability – Not bad for $1.40 per bottle. This is definitely one I wouldn’t turn away.

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Photo of gford217
3.61/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Well, I had to buy this beer when the owner of the bar told me the story. Anyway, it pours a deep mahogany brown with a thin off-white head that dissipates quickly leaving no lacing. There wasn't a lot to the smell honestly. I got some faint coffee aromas and some sweet malts with some nutty aromas as well. The taste was better, with a well defined roasted character. Chocolate malts and coffee were also present long with a bit of nuts and dark fruit as well. The mouthfeel was a tad thin, but had good carbonation. I enjoyed this porter and it was very drinkable despite not being the most complex porter out there.

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Photo of cokes
3.67/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Dark chocolate-orange. Tiny pale khaki head jogs quickly to the sides.
Powdery cocoa nose with traces of liquorice and plums.
A chocolate flavor bursts out initally, receding to a toasted liquorice. Turns a little vinous, with spectors of raisins and prunes. A touch of cola. Sour yeast tones are noted, not too surprised, since the the bottle claims the yeast is almost 180 yrs old. Hmm... Interesting marketing device, though it calls the credibility into question. Some leafy, herbal hops close things down, leaving just a lingering burnt chocolate residue.
It comes across thin and soda-like in the mouth.
Quaffable and decent, but not particularly special.

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Photo of Reidrover
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

mmm unusual label story lets see how those 1825 yeasts hold up.
The beer pours a nice dark mahogany brown with a good sized tan head,,though it goes down pretty quick all in all a good looking beer.
I liked the aroma of this beer,,very roasted malts so very chocolaty..but yet fresh.
again nice taste very cocoa like in the first instance then a dark coffee flavour takes over,,theres a hint of bitterness at the end( hops)
Feels very comfortable on the tongue,,tasty!
A quite drinkable Porter..i liked it,,very nicelly done.

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Photo of tpd975
3.85/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This one says it's retired but it's not. My beer guy just got a nice fresh shipment in.

A: Nice chestnut brown hue with a rather average sized off white head. The retention is low and lace is spotty.

S: Aromas of nice roasted malts with hints of chocolate and brown sugar. A touch of milk can be noted, not real sweetness or hops though.

T: Taste is much better than aroma. Nice hints of chocolate and coffee. Touches of nuts as well. Has a slight lactic quality to it. Nice tasting porter.

M: Medium in body rather smooth and creamy.

D: Nice, I enjoyed it. I will buy more if avaliable.

Overall: A rather drinkable porter with a nice taste. It is clean smooth and refreshing. A nice treat.

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Photo of Brent
3.95/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Advertised as brewed with 1825 yeast salvaged from a sunken vessel in the English Channel, and using a brewing recipe from that period, so I was curious to see how our American interpretation had evolved the style. Mouthfeel was somewhat thin, and caramel/toffee malts dominated. Hops were quite reserved, and the overall character of this porter was very mild, almost bordering on a brown ale. Quite pleasant, but nothing here that is particularly noteworthy. Worth a try as a curiosity, if nothing else (which may be what the brewers had in mind, anyway).

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Photo of Todd
4.23/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Presentation: 500ml brown bottle. 19th century motif adorns the label with a gold foil sheaf.

Appearance: Dark mahogany in colour, with a brilliant tan lace of a head which retains its froth.

Smell: Sweet caramel aromas and twang, notes of nuttiness and slight alcohol. Within the dark malts, a faint aroma of smoke can be retrieved.

Taste: The tastes echoes the smell. Rich brown malt flavour (extremely rare today) with an up-front caramel chewiness. Nutty, mild tangy sourness, some spiciness, touch of smoke (from the use of brown malt), an intense toasted and thin roasted flavour. All of these meld with a consistent sweetness. The afters go a bit grainy, bready, more spiciness with a mild hop bitterness to balance the palate.

Notes: This is a Porter, a true Porter. Brewed with yeast salvaged from bottles found in a barge, that sunk in 1825 off the English Channel. Without a doubt, this is the best traditional Porter tasted to date.

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Original Flag Porter 1825 from Elgood and Sons Ltd
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