Original Flag Porter 1825 | Elgood and Sons Ltd

BA SCORE
85
very good
98 Ratings
Original Flag Porter 1825Original Flag Porter 1825
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Elgood and Sons Ltd
England, United Kingdom
elgoods-brewery.co.uk

Style: English Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Now brewery by Darwin:
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/935/14563

Added by stirgy on 09-30-1998

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ratings:
98
Reviews:
88
Avg:
3.82
pDev:
10.47%
 
 
Wants:
3
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3
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Photo of dsa7783
3.8/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Single bottle purchased from Gary's in Madison...
Pours a dark, ebony hue with a minimal tan, reddish head...
Sweet, malt-dominated aroma with hints of dark sugars, figs, and dates...
Taste, likewise, had an obviously strong malt-backbone along with nuances of roasted malts, dehydrated fruits, including, but not limited to, dates, figs, prunes, caramelized sugars, and sweet honey...
good mouthfeel along with a pretty good level of drinkability to match...
Worth a try...

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Photo of BeerSox
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into nonic.

Very dark brown, almost black, with some ruby highlights at the bottom of the glass. A one finger light tan head slowly settles to a thick cap, with spotty lacing along the glass.

Smooth, roasty malts with a little bit of molasses. The hop aromas are lower, which goes along with the English style.

Roasty malts that aren't bitter with a slight creaminess. A little bit of coffee flavor is in there too. Medium bodied with a good amount of carbonation. The dark grains linger for a while.

This is a great porter, and a good example of the English style. There aren't too many of these to be found in the U.S., and ultra fresh ones are even rarer. I would love to try this one in a pub. Recommended.

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Photo of cvstrickland
4.15/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

11.2-ounce bottle poured into a pint glass yields a deep, clear ebony body with chestnut highlights capped briefly by a finger of pale beige head with big soapy bubbles on top. It shrinks quickly to a crescent moon-shape that retains throughout the drink, but leaves very little lacing.

Smell is malty with a pungent note of molasses and savory brown bread. A touch of coffee tickles the nose, as does aromatic pekoe tea.

A rich, full body fills the mouth and is cut very nicely by good carbonation, revealing a light juicy fruitiness, balanced with dry, biscuity malt. A sweet woody note and the roasty essence of bitter coffee emerge, politely taking command of the finish as the drink warms.

Flag Porter is surprisingly refreshing, nicely balanced, smooth, dark and juicy with excellent drinkability and balance.

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Photo of tpd975
3.85/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This one says it's retired but it's not. My beer guy just got a nice fresh shipment in.

A: Nice chestnut brown hue with a rather average sized off white head. The retention is low and lace is spotty.

S: Aromas of nice roasted malts with hints of chocolate and brown sugar. A touch of milk can be noted, not real sweetness or hops though.

T: Taste is much better than aroma. Nice hints of chocolate and coffee. Touches of nuts as well. Has a slight lactic quality to it. Nice tasting porter.

M: Medium in body rather smooth and creamy.

D: Nice, I enjoyed it. I will buy more if avaliable.

Overall: A rather drinkable porter with a nice taste. It is clean smooth and refreshing. A nice treat.

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Photo of blakesell
4.38/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Poured from the 11.2oz bottle into a Belgian wine glass. As everyone else, I also question the retirement of this beer as it is the only one from the brewery that I can find.

Appearance- Beer pours a dark brown red black with a rich lustrous finger of tan Bailey's Irish cream coloured head. Lacing is glued to the sides for the duration of the beverage's enjoyment.

Smell- Rich roasty malts with a hint of sour that for some reason doesn't seem out of place. A dusty graininess also lingers and seems to be in the right place as well. I can only assume this is the yeast and I would love to get my hands on some old 1825 yeast for my porters as well. Hops are noble and subdued.

Taste- This is clearly a special porter, a creamy rich texture that comes of super smooth with a chocolatey taste on the back of the tongue. A near toffee sweetness and caramel hints linger with a mild grainy texture. Hop bitterness is amazingly balanced. Very drying with the chocolate sweetness on the finish, almost like eating baker's chocolate except good tasting.

Mouthfeel- Creamy, smooth, grainy, medium-full bodied, fairly highly carbonated, and decadant.

Drinkability- This is one of the finest porters I have ever had and I would have no qualms against finishing off the entire four pack, unfortunately I'll have to beat my girlfriend at cards a lot more to get the rest of them (and she already got one of my Founders Breakfast Stouts out of this game).

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Photo of Sammy
3.6/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Serviceable porter. I find it hard to understand why this is listed as retired as its available and their standard porter. Pours a handsome black with lots of white soapy head. Porter coffee aroma. Medium or less mouthfeel,e asy drinkability, with licorice and coffee grounds and nuttiness in there. Significant roast.

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Photo of dreadnatty08
3.38/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark brown color with ruby highlights on the edges, not quite opaque. Not much of a head is produced, just a tracing of off white bubbles. Aromas of rich, dark chocolate taffy, given the fruitiness of English ale yeast; a bit of sourness too. Not as robust as American porters, but I imagine no roasted malt has been used, just higher kilned crystal. On the palate, a lowly carbonated brew hits quite slickly delivering a lot more chocolaty flavors. I even get a hint of a nutty aged parmesan. It is certainly very malt forward with no wink of hops evident. Overall, a historically enjoyable beer, but not one which I would seek out in the future.

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Photo of enfield249
3.77/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - Clear, with lots of particulate mater (yeast) floating about in it. Dark ruby red in color. Now head to speak of.

S - Nice malt smell, roasty. Much better then I would have expected for a beer with this low of alcohol.

T - Nice malty sweetness, chocolate, roast.

M - Slightly astringent in the middle of my tongue, and nice and creamy texture.

D - Very drinkable, I would have this beer all the time if the price wasn't so high.

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Photo of biggmike
3.7/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

It says on this site that this beer is retired, but I just bought it recently. Interesting story behind this beer having to do with a sunken ship in 1825. Very dark brown with with light tan head that dissipated rather quickly. Aroma of black licorice and coffee. Taste is full of roastiness. Pretty good stuff, but there are other porters I prefer.

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Photo of BDTyre
4.12/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark brown colour with ruby hints to ot. Thin, tan coloured head. Roasted malt and and fresh ground coffee scent. Slight chocolate profile.

Roasted, malty taste. Slight faint smokiness to it. Bitter chocolate and coffee in the flavour. Weak sourness in the aftertaste.

Not the best porter I've had...but one of the nicer ones. Smooth mouthfeel, fairly sessionable.

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Photo of JWFokker
3.9/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a very dark brown with a thin tan head. The nose consisted primarily of roasted malt, maybe a hint of chocolate. The flavor was dominated by the roasted malt, with chocolate and a bit of nutty flavor also. Bread in the aftertaste. Mouthfeel was thinner than I expected, but it's a porter, not a stout and is actually in line with the style. It's a fairly solid if somewhat unremarkable beer. It's got no inherrent flaws other than not being particularly distinctive.

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Photo of Generik420
3.97/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer pours a deep dark brown with a tan head that falls into minimal lacing. The aroma consists of a light roastiness and a hint of alchohol. Somewhat nutty as well. Taste is very smooth, somewhat roasted, semi-sweet. Medium body and easy drinking. A good beer.

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Photo of Chsyhkr
4.5/5  rDev +17.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A wonderful robust porter enjoyed with Ginger and Squash Bisque at a local restaurant.

Full bodied, great aroma of dark breads and chocolate.

Nice full head with good carbonation.

Wonderful bittersweet chocolates with sweet breads flavor stands on its own.

A great example, never mind the nonsense about the 1825 yeast!

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Photo of wl0307
3.72/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

This beer is NOT retired. Purchased at the UTOBEER stall in the Borough Market, S. London. BB 06/06, served cool in a 500ml jug.

A: deep mahogany hue, poured with a thick off-white froth settling slowly to a thin cap sustaining throughout the drink.
S: rawish, vividly chewy malt grist... fuller than full on the aroma; chunks of aromatic, vanilla-ish dark chocolates balanced with a dense, sour-sweet fruity+vinous edge like semi-fermented (or almost rotten) dried dates+plums+grapes; all elements of aroma serve to highlight an intense wave of earthy and slightly stinky note as in sticky treacles as well as blue cheese(!)... (I guess that's the work of yeasts?) Overall, the aroma is distinctive and shows the depth of a good dark ale.
T: surprisingly light on the palate (as opposed to the rich aroma), with smoothly sweet coffee-flavoured toffee and roasted honey-coated cashew-nuts to dominate; quickly ensued by an even lighter flow of sour-sweet dark fruits with a slightly tangy edge of red grape-juice and a sour-edge of plum-juice... A restrained, shallow-bodied licorice herbal taste of hops as well as a soothingly dryish roast-malty tinge (like Dark Mild) are left at the end of the sides of the tongue, where the dark fruitiness still hovers like the aftertaste of dried black dates. Interestingly, there's more aroma than flavour lingering in the short finish.
M&D: lighter-than-expected-bodied, soft on the texture and the finish falls a bit watery; but the flavour is quite typical of an English Porter to me, with a balanced profile b/w fruitiness and dark malts and a rather smooth texture easy to quaff for both "real porters" and casual drinkers alike. It's just that, the divergence b/w the much-promising aroma and the underperforming flavour comes as a bit of surprise to my naive expectation...

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Photo of scruffwhor
4.12/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance- An inky dark brown slash mild black hue. Head was a light tan. Lots of sediment at the bottome of the pint glass. Uncommon for most porters.

Smell- Lots of deep roasted malts better described as drak roasted coffee beans. The hops presence was a little rye like in aroma.

Taste- A little creamy note added to the dark roast coffee beans. With some hints of tobacco and wood. The malt presence is very strong with only very subtle bitterness that mixes well with the malts.

Mouthfeel- Mostly silky smooth but with a little dry Irish/cream stout qualities.

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Photo of GCBrewingCo
3.87/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The beer poured into the glass clear brown with an amber hue and a tan low head which lasted well to lace the glass.

The aroma was malty with a sherry aroma and complexity. The aroma smelled much more alcoholic and interesting than a 5.0% ABV beer. Cherries and fruity aromatics were present as well as chocolate and a bit of roasted and perhaps coffee.

The flavor was lighter than would be expected from the clues given by the aroma. Contained in the flavor were a fruity flavor coupled with chocolate and cherries. The flavor was muted compared to the aroma and bit on the lighter side with coffee still in the mix, but some black patent showing up in the flavor and a bit of a winey note.

The finish was just dry with a lasting sherry and coffee/chocolate into the aftertaste and beyond. The body was medium light and the carbonation level was fairly low. A great aroma, but a lackluster flavor.

11.2 ounce bottle.

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Photo of sevineyes
3.07/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a brown bottle with a sihlouette of a ship against a full moon on the label.

A: Seems to be a bit light for a porter. Definite ruby hints, but I can see the whole bottom of my glass. Poured with a dense head, but not very thick and only slighty off-white.

S: Weak smell. Bananna. Sour cherries, sugared fruit skins. Really pleasing sourness coming through. Pick up some coconut. Has almost a medicinal sanitary aspect in the final portions of the smell. A roastiness comes through.

T: Smells much stronger. Watered down whiskey. Some pepper. Overall the main thing is a sweetness that's very natural and fruit-like.

M: Extremely watery, but leaving with an evaporative quality similar to sweating on a hot summer day.

Overall: Supremely drinkable for a porter. Unfortunatley the smell is weak and the mouthfeel is weaker. Although the smell is very complex I just wish it had a bit more chutzpah.

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Photo of greenjeff4141
4.57/5  rDev +19.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

The smell is very mellow and subdued. The best way to describe this porter is to say it was like silk. Very smooth, very little carbonation. The taste is of chocolate and a little smokey charcoal flavor. Very creamy texture.

One of my favorite Porters.

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Photo of Jredner
3.13/5  rDev -18.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Suprisingly sweet and malty aroma. No roastiness at all in the aroma. Deep brown with reddish tints. Very untraditional, traditional porter. It tastes little like what porters now taste like. Comes across as a malty dark bitter. Molasses and black licorice flavors. Interesting, but I like my new world fake porters better.

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Photo of HochFliegen
3.57/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Dark brown with ruby red tones in the light. Very little head to speak of. What was there was a tan color.
Smell was quite malty & nutty. Hints of chocolate linger as well along with a spalsh of some fruit. Couldnt detect the fruit odor all the time but in the end of the whif I could.
Taste was fruity tart and malty at first. Followed by a roasted malt/burnt coffee flavor that lingered along with a bite of bitter.

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Photo of Px2GrafX
4.07/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

presentation: 11.2oz. bottle with a black, gold and white label. an old sailing ship is at sea on the label and in big type is "original flag porter". "gold medal 94 points" at the world beer championships."brewed with 1825 yeast salvaged from a sunken vessel in the english channel using an original 19th century recipe". abv is displayed at 5%. no freshness date. "brewed without artificial additives".

appearance: pours a dark brown but not nearly as opaque as other porters. red brown highlights and clear. head is surprisingly light off-white. about a half an inch and eventually drops to a patchy ring. lacing is decent.

smell: mild malt aromas that are lightly sweet with a hint of oatmeal. caramelly with a faint aroma of coffee. wow, a nice cherry aroma sparkles as this brew warms. i get it every time i take in a whiff while sniffing. nice!

taste: malty sweet caramelly biscuits. light bitterness to compliment. a roasted smokiness can be detected along with a roasted peanutty flavor over coffee. aftertaste is sweet and lightly astringent. chocolate flavors become more apparent as the brew warms.

mouthfeel: very light for a porter, however, crisp, clean and smooth. carbonation is light to moderate, and the swallow is silk.

drinkability: very drinkable porter. mouthfeel, aroma and flavors attest to this. alcohol is non-existent. i could definitely make a session out of this.

overall: very nice english porter. definitely has it's place. i prefer a few different things, and probably prefer the american style more, but this is definitely a tasty, easy to drink, and accurate portrayal.

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Photo of Zorro
4.1/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a clear dark brown beer that you can just barely pass light through. Red Highlights show when held up.

Very aromatic porter here. Lots of roasted malt and chocolate in the scent. Fainter odors of coffee and fruit.

Taste is fruity and acidic on the first taste with a roasted malt after taste. Mild sweetness and chocolate flavor comes net and finishes with the wine like finish of lightly roasted coffee.

Mouthfeel is good and just right.

Drinkability is this beers best quality. Tasty yet not tiring, restrained alcohol level, good aroma and solid mouth feel all combines to make superior quaffer.

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Photo of Brian700
3.55/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

I remember trying one of these when I was first getting into good beers and I though it was awesome. Now, not so much.

This beer pours a dark garnet/deep brown color with a tan head that didn't really stick around very long.

The aroma was pretty lacking. I smell some light roastiness but not much more.

The flavor (right after the pour--somewhat cold) is somewhat roasty with mild chocolate flavor. Not very complex. It seems to be lacking something.
The flavor (after warming up a bit) is much better. There are a lot more chocolate notes coming through and the flavor seems to be enhanced by a great deal. Still a little bit lacking though.

The mouthfeel is good. Medium body and medium carbonation.
I'd say it's a decently drinkable beer. This beer reputation in my area seems to be to much for this beer to live up to. Not a bad beer though.

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Photo of tgbljb
4.07/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

selection of beer of the month club. poured a deep brown color with medium tannish head that quickly fell to a nice ring. At first the smeel was toatl chocolate but gradually a fruity maltiness came through. Taste is toasty, coffee, chocolate and very enjoyable. Finish is a slight dry bitterness but a bit understated. A very good beer.

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Photo of Naes
3.8/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

The appearance is brownish black, with a medium tan head that disappears quickly.

Aroma is of malts, chocolate and alcohol. Also some roastieness.

Its flavor is roasty and nutty.

The mouth feel is a bit thin (light to medium bodieds), but not overly watery. It has good carbonation and is quite smooth.

This one is an easy going porter, quite consumable. Although I definitely liked this beer, I don’t think I will be purchasing much more of this beer. For the price, I can have two beers of equal quality.

Definitely worth trying if you have never had this one.

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Original Flag Porter 1825 from Elgood and Sons Ltd
3.82 out of 5 based on 98 ratings.
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