Original Flag Porter 1825 | Elgood and Sons Ltd

BA SCORE
85
very good
98 Ratings
Original Flag Porter 1825Original Flag Porter 1825
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Elgood and Sons Ltd
England, United Kingdom
elgoods-brewery.co.uk

Style: English Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Now brewery by Darwin:
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/935/14563

Added by stirgy on 09-30-1998

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ratings:
98
Reviews:
88
Avg:
3.82
pDev:
10.47%
 
 
Wants:
3
Gots:
3
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Photo of BeerFink
3.67/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Let's see how this 1825 yeast tastes...

Pours a deep brown with ruby highlights when held to light. Head is minimal. Malty aroma with some nuttiness and chocolate, a little yeast. Taste is good, but nothing exciting. Its like a light version of a traditional English porter. Dark malt exhibit equal parts toasty and roasted. Minimal coffee and chocolate presence. Some nuttiness comes through as well. Mouthfeel is pretty thin. Finish is dry and a little musty. Not a bad porter, but not exciting either. Definitely worth a try just for the novelty of trying an old style of porter.

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Photo of AlexJ
4.47/5  rDev +17%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 5

A nice find at Peabodies in Boone, NC. It pours from the bottle a dark brown, cola colored brew. It puffs up a nice 2-fingers of milk-chocolate colored head. Head soon fizzles down to a ring, leaving some spotty lace as it does.

The aroma is all chocolate, coffe, and vanilla, mmm. Sweet, roasty and toasty, brimming with fresh-baked brownie appeal. This is how I want my porters to smell, right on!

Oh yeah, loads of creamy cocoa and dark, roasted malts upfront, followed by bittersweet coffee and espresso notes. There is a bit of vanilla, cinnamon, and light, yeasty spice flavors playing around as well. This is delicious!

The only thing it lacks is the body of a hearty porter, but the abundance of perfect flavors make up for it. Mouthfeel is very smooth, creamy, and soft. The end result, a porter that packs a ton of flavor, while remaining light, quaffable, quenching, and absolutely satisfying.

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Photo of EPseja
3.54/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Split a room-temperature 12oz. bottle of this before sushi lunch with Ego (another BA poster). The yeast used in the creation of this beer was salvaged from bottles found in an English shipwreck, and applied to a 19th century recipe. Bonus points for intrigue.

Appearance: Pours the color of Coca-Cola with a head to match. Much less thick than I initially thought it would be. The beige head gave out quickly, hanging on to the edges of the glass and leaving the center bare.

Smell: Big hybrid of chocolate mocha right off the bat. Burnt caramel, charred marshmallows. Very enticing.

Taste: Striking hit of smokey peat up front. Surprisingly clean and not very sweet, especially with such noticeable caramel in the nose. Aftertaste reveals bittersweet baking chocolate. Not sure where the coffee scent from the nose disappeared to!

Mouthfeel: More carbonated than I thought it would be. Less body than I originally expected. Slightly uncharacteristic compared to similar Porters I've had.

Drinkability: A bit too carbonated for my tastes. Lack of sweetness and thickness makes it physically easier to drink (less filling) although the almost too-clean taste isn't a plus for a Porter.

In conclusion, this is a decent but not exceptional Porter except for the history behind it's creation. This beer must be drank at room temperature to fully enjoy it's character! This beer would suffer greatly if served cold.

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Photo of masterbruewer
3.45/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Typical porter appearance. Dark, dark brown with tan head. Light to moderate carbonation.

The smell was sweet with chocolate/coffee and fruit flavors and a bit of a harsh alcohol scent.

The flavor was classic porter, strong dark flavors of coffee and chocolate with some fruitiness. A little bit of harsh alcohol taste takes away from the flavor a little.

Mouthfeel was smooth and creamy.

Drinkability wasn't bad but takes a hit from the harshness.

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Photo of walleye
3/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

poured a deep mahagany with a very small tan head that didn’t last. aromaplums, honey, molasses, brown sugar, dark chocolate, with hints of licorice. flavor, weak, watery, bitter chocolate, molasses, dryness, a little diappointed with the flavor I was hopping for more robust flavors.

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Photo of dgallina
3.58/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours black with mahogany tones and minimal head which leaves a thin layer of foam and persistent lacing. Subdued roasted coffee and chocolate malt aroma. Creamy and sweet initially, develops into roasted coffee flavors and finishes with some dry hop bitterness. Predominantly creamy medium body, perhaps on the slightly timid side. Very easy to drink, but not enough flavor to make me want another overall.

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Photo of Billolick
3.88/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ouncer, Freshness dating. Poured very dark brown, almost black, tiny bubble white head, leaves nice wispy lacing. Slight nose of coffee beans and burnt malt. Light bodied, nice mellow notes of coffee, chocolate and vanilla. Smooth brit style porter, understated, mellow and tasty. I read some of the other reviews, some folks were dissapointed by this brew. Not me, this was a tasty, nicely crafted Porter.

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Photo of connecticutpoet
4.47/5  rDev +17%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I was intrigued by this beer, and the history involved. Definitely a draw.

It poured a nice red-brown color with almost no head... but that is because I poured it slowly.

The aroma was of dark, rich malt, hints of bitter chocolate, and a light roasted undertone. Very well-balanced.

The taste was of nice dark malt, very smooth and easy-drinking, with a lightly roasted finish. Very good indeed.

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Photo of ChrisBowers
3.48/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

I was sorta disappointed in this beer. The thought of tasting something made from a yeast strain cultured from a bottle on the english channel intrigued me. Poured out of the bottle a dark brown/black with a light head that disappeared quickly. Nose was of chocolate, prunes and coffee. What really disappointed me about this beer was the mouthfeel. It was thin and watery, not rich like I expected it to be. Taste was ok, but the flavors were all muted. Maybe I got a bad bottle, but I didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would.

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Photo of ark57
4/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

It pours a black with some ruby tinges and a tan head. The aroma is roasted malts and chocolate and some sea breeze (though maybe that is my mind oplaying tricks on me because I knwo where they got the yeast). It is really smooth and robust with chocolate and a touch of coffee. There is a lingering roasty finish.

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Photo of stirgy
4.3/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured a very dark chestnut brown color and looked black at first glance. The aroma is very estery – with rich roasted grains, sweet caramel and a fruity sourness. The taste is roasty and smoky. A pleasant and musty sweet maltiness coats the tongue and lingers in the throat. Hop bitterness is low to nonexistent, but the roasty bitterness makes up for it. Fermented fruits come out as the beer warms. Figs and prunes along with candy caramels and a touch of molasses. The mouthfeel is medium to light but matches well with all the intense and dark flavors. Overall, a rich and roasty porter. I enjoyed this beer.

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Photo of CortexBomb
3.82/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Like others I was drawn in by the tale on the bottle, and the possibility to try an authentic old style porter.

Flag poured out standard porter black, but had a very slight head which quickly disspated. The aroma was nice though, very malt oriented with a hint of prunes in the background, quite alluring.

Taste is the nicely sweet which pairs with malts and plenty of grain too. Pretty decent, but nothing overly different from any of the modern porters as far as I could tell.

Mouthfeel was moderately thick, but nothing to write home about, the same story on drinkability.

Decent brew but I was expecting more.

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Photo of Gusler
4.03/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The pour a very deep garnet to brown, the head modest in size, creamy in its consistency, with decent lace to cover the glass. Nice malt nose, toasted grains, light coffee, and even a very slight hint of yeast. Malt front, top is middling in feel, the finish sparingly carbonated, nicely hopped, and droughty malt dry aftertaste. The quintessential “Porter”, made the old way, and mores the rub there aren’t more around.

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Photo of pio
3.4/5  rDev -11%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

i was very glad to find this beer again.
dark ruby brown liquid. not a huge amount of head what is there is cream/tan colored and reduces to al halo with big and little bubbles. spotty lace noted.
caramel, molasses dark bread crusts and scorched sugar is in it's scent.
flavor is straight ahead and rather one dimentional. coffee maltiness and a yeasty hint of port beginning the finish. it dries and bitters upon it's finish but just enough and no more.
the mouthfeel is slightly active with a big bubbly feel but i'd say a tad watery.
very sessionable but only if you can afford it, no points off for the expensive nature of this purchase. remember it's only a purchase while you have it in the store, after that it's beer.
cheers!

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Photo of crookedhalo
3.8/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a brown light coppery color, vigourous pour only produced a thinner light tan head. Smells buttery, malty, earthy with the slightest cinnamon, coffee and tea smell, too. Tastes a bit thin, but a quality English porter base is there, and the history is rather intriguing (but that's not what I'm reviewing). Some good scorchy malt flavors in there. A bit diacetyl, but in style. Overall, a quality porter, not, however, one of my favorites.

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Photo of Rumrunner
3.75/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

12oz. bottle. Nice ship on the lable.

A bit rough around the edges.

Pours a dark black. Not much head and little to no lacing. Head disipates and forms an oil slick froth over the beer. Scents are mild brownie, coffee and dough. A malty carob also presides.

Flavors have some bite. A toasted coffee starts and subsides in to a creamy coffee and carob flavor. Plenty of toasted bread and cookie dough. A very sweet port wine flavor in the end.

Mouthfeel is watery and weak. A very slick unappealing feel overall. It is very easy to drink but then again I can think of plenty of porters I would have before this one. It is good, just not great.

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Photo of daledeee
3.68/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Interesting story behind this one. Smells like Starbucks when you pour it. Good strong coffee smell. Another not so fresh smell along with that. Not a strong head but nice clear dark. Taste was a little watery tasting to me(believe it or not) but it got better as it warmed up. Bitter chocolate and coffee in the taste. Somewhat dry finish.

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Photo of RoyalT
3.94/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance – Very dark ruby black with visible carbonation and no head.

Smell – The sherry and roasted malt aroma is offset slightly by a small showing of hops. There’s also a deep, dark sweetness to this one. Ripe apricots, peaches, and plums soaked in molasses come to mind.

Taste – Yes, there’s definitely a hop balance to this one. The sweetness from the nose takes a step back as the roasted malt rules the show.

Mouthfeel – In between medium and full in the body with a somewhat dry, refreshing finish.

Drinkability – Not bad for $1.40 per bottle. This is definitely one I wouldn’t turn away.

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Photo of edchicma
4.42/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

An extremely nice brew..dark chocolate appearance with aa rich chocloate smell. Taste is mild, but with a very smooth malty presence that is slightly smoky. Mouthfeel is somewhat light, but carries enough body to be much above average. Extremely easy to drink, with a pleasant, malty aftertaste.

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Photo of beergeek279
4.42/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served in the 12 oz. bottle. The color is a dark brown, with a ring of white head. The smell is a very rich chocolate/roasted malt. The taste is a very strong coffee/chocolate malt; fairly dry but still quite good. Mouthfeel is smooth. Drinkability-wise, could definitely have many of these.

On a recommendation (based on an argument on the best porter), I gave this a try, and I have to thank the man who recommended this beer, because it definitely stands up with the best of them, If this is how porter tasted in 1825 then, minus a life expectancy of 40, it would have been a good time to be alive!

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Photo of cerevisiaephilus
2.71/5  rDev -29.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

This is a werid smelling and tasting beer. I'm getting some strange off scents and flavors, but I'm not sure what they are, almost winey. I don't think the beer is contaminated, but it tastes odd. There is definately some decent dark malt notes, but other than that, pretty lackluster.

I'd like to blame it on the yeast from 1825, but I read that nowadays, its only used for the bottle conditioning and a modern strain is used for the fermentation.

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Photo of ADR
3.95/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Opaque brown, tan light transmission at the bottom of the pint glass. A really hard pour produces a 3/4 inch head that settles to a 1/2 inch pile of creamy tan. Thicky dotty laces that drip down. Malty aroma, some chocolate sense with a slight bit of nutiness. Low carbonation and pleasant creamy mouthfeel, flavors ring of carob with a slight honey impression in the swallow and aftertaste. Nothing wrong with this beer, drinkable and entirely pleasant in the Brown Porter style.

Source: Liquid Solutions

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Photo of beerguy101
3.76/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brewed with yeast from 1825 that was salvaged from a sunken vessel in the English channel. Brewed using an original 19th century recipe. Dark black/brown color, medium head. A full bodied porter. Deeply roasted malts. Carmel and chocolate. Not very hoppy. Full complex flavor. Mouthfeel is full and round. Finish is clean and crisp. Aftertaste is slightly bitter. Interesting beer. Ancient yeast provides no noticeable difference in taste. Still a very nice beer.

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Photo of clvand0
2.85/5  rDev -25.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

This beer pours a dark color with ruby hints around the edges. I has a small head and a little bit of lacing on the glass. The aroma is of burned malts and chocolate - very pleasant. The flavor is very full bodied. The flavor is very strongly filled with the taste of coffee mixed with licorice. Personally I'm not a big fan of porters nor coffee, but I must admit that this was a well made and very good porter. Great representation.

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Photo of feloniousmonk
3.59/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Drinking from a nice, warmed-up bottle...
Color is deep, dark brown, showing some reddish transparency around the sides and bottom, with a short, off-white head.
Aroma: delirious perfection! Rich, roasted coffee at first, then anise, big-time, spice, molasses, dark rum, more, ...I drank it in the nose long and deep, savoring every sniff!
Flavor from nose continue in the taste, but one thing really sticks out significantly: a lack of depth and a shallow mouthfeel. Barely pierces the palate, this one, and the finish is far too short and forgettable. I want a good porter to wrestle a little with my tongue, and more importantly, to really get comfortable and rest happily on the palate, spreading flavor all around the mouth, creating an overwhelmingly unctuous experience. Does. Not. Happen.
This enjoyably dark, twisted melange of flavor exists for a moment, then is gone long before you'd like it to.
Drinkability? Boy, you can toss them back, but the experience is too disappointing to want to revisit. Alas.
(Thanks to JohnnyDuvel for the sample!)

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Original Flag Porter 1825 from Elgood and Sons Ltd
3.82 out of 5 based on 98 ratings.
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