Idiot Farm | Karben4 Brewing

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Idiot FarmIdiot Farm

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Karben4 Brewing
Wisconsin, United States

Style: American Double / Imperial IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.40%

Availability: Summer

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Added by Ri0 on 07-24-2014

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Reviews: 23 | Ratings: 112
Photo of barczar
4.06/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big pineapple sweetness, grapefruit, and resin in the aroma.

Flavor is more resiny, but the tropical and citrus notes so come through quite well. Finish is earthy and fairly bitter. Significant caramel malt backbone.

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Photo of Peepskp
4.35/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A more full bodied version of fantasy factory. Fruit flavors are more pronounced but the hops are just as fresh tasting and dank as you would expect from karbon 4. I think this should be rated in the mid nineties for sure.

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Photo of HomeBrewed
4.55/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

On tap at the brewery on 8/11/16.

Pours a seductive Amber color with a nice white head. Smell is absolutely sensational. Tropical fruit, particularly pineapple. Holy hell, this smells amazing. Taste is very sipping tropical hop juice that got it's mojo from a pineapple. I feel bad for the people that didn't fully appreciate this beer, it makes no sense to me. This is the best beer I have had from Karben4. Cheers!

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Photo of Angerhaus
3.3/5  rDev -19.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Like most of Karben4's releases, this is good, but not great. This particular brew feels like an attempt at a West Coast IPA, but falls just a little short on flavor and mouthfeel. Honestly, I'm probably done spending my money on their products. There are too many better beers available for the same price.

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Photo of mr-jj
3.5/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12 oz bottle brought back from Wisconsin by my wife on a trip to see her friend.

Color is amber with a very minimal head. Smell is bready with mild hops and booze. Flavor is less malty than I expected from the aroma. It's malty, but with a lot more bitter hops to balance than I expected. Body is medium with a creamy mouthfeel. Overall, a good beer, but a very different taste profile than I expected.

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Photo of snaotheus
3.34/5  rDev -18.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

12oz bottle brought to me by @mr-jj, served in a tulip. 1421033150714B is the bottle code, which is hard to find and might mean many things. Maybe it was bottled on July 14th -- that's the most sensible guess I can make. If that's the case, it puts it around the limit of my confidence in most IPAs...but I guess we'll see.

Pours a murky amber with a small head and moderate carbonation. Smell is a tiny bit old hops, old straw and barleywine. Alcohol and mustiness. Oak. Really smells like a barleywine!

Taste is more along the lines of barleywine. There are some vague hints of bright hops. But, mostly boozy/woody characteristics. Not bad, but definitely not what I expect from an IIPA -- at least not everything that I expect. I'll finish this review with IIPA in mind, and then enjoy the rest of the beer as a light barleywine!

Mouthfeel is thick and sticky. Overall, it's not bad. It would get higher marks as a barleywine.

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Photo of Bshaw22
4.23/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Very tropical brew. Almost like Fantasy Factory's big brother. A lot of citrus, mango, pineapple. Couldn't drink a ton of the them because it is kind of dense, but maybe 2 in a sitting. The beer does have some malt backing to it, so I could see it turning pretty quickly after a couple of months.

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Photo of Danmullens1
4.3/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Out of a bottle into a Karben 4 snifter, pours a murky amber with a nice white head. Aroma is amazing. Great hop offering of Pineapple, mango, citrus, & pine—balanced nicely with the presence of sweet carmaly malt. Taste is similar, but more bitter than the nose advertised. Finish is dry with some pine. Great offering from this small Madison brewery—my favorite Karben 4 beer to date. Get some.

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Photo of Chris912
4.36/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

L - dark copper, two finger white head on an aggressive pour. Little lacing
A- tropical fruits, pineapple and mango. Enticing! I hope the taste follows this good.
T - again, the hops since thru here. Glad I'm enjoying this is fresh! Again with tropical pineapple and mango. A treat! Mild bitterness.
M - medium. Somewhat sticky. The light alcohol is surprisingly welcomed on the finish.
O - glad I had the opportunity to try this tropical hop bomb! I will be seeking this out. I had to idea this existed, but now I have it square in my sights.

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Photo of guityler83
4.16/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

12oz Bottle

A: Dark amber to copper appearance with murky haze in the glass. bright white head with fine bubbles and moderate retention.

S: Big mango, pineapple and peach hop aroma. medium sweetness impression with brown sugar aroma. light grainy / toasty malt aroma with a relatively clean fermentation profile.

T: Moderate high bitterness with big flavorful hop character - moderate pineapple, mango and papaya. A sugary/cidery flavor follows and a light grainy and toasty flavor. Balance is on the hops and the finish is one last burst of hop flavor - more stone fruit and very dry

M: medium low body with medium carbonation. A slight a stringency on the back of the tongue. Light alcohol warming.

O: Great aroma and hop flavor on the beer. The sugar use (im guessing here) is taking away from the beer in my opinion. Its coming off slightly cidery/harsh. Uping the base malt instead of using sugar (if thats what it is) would make this beer amazing.

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Photo of don1481
4.33/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle poured into glass.

Appearance: Pours a lovely hazy dark amber with a fair amount of bubbles flowing up through it. Small off-white head lingers for a bit on top.

Smell: Ooooh the hops. This isn't over the top, though. It smells... smooth and velvety, if smooth and velvety could be a proper descriptor. Malty might be a better term.

Taste: Well, that's a "good" different taste. It really tastes like it smells. Maybe with a hair more punch to it than the smell would have implied. I definitely like it more and more as I drink this.

Mouthfeel: Pretty thick overall, as others have noted, compared to other in the style.

Overall: $4.49 for the last bottle at Downer Wine & Spirits in Milwaukee. Worth buying a bottle and I'm glad I tried it.

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Photo of bound4er
3.54/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.25

Medium amber appearance with a generous white head the leaves a good bit of lacing. Smells like weeds soaked in alcohol - that sounds negative but for some reason I like it. Tastes like charcoal-laced hops, booze and bready malt - kind of meh. Mouthfeel is medium to medium/heavy for the style with low carbonation. Not something I am dying to buy more of, especially at nearly $3.50 a bottle.

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Photo of BarrytheBear
3.15/5  rDev -23.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

12 oz bottle

Some nice tropical hop notes poke through on the nose but the caramel malting flexes its muscles hard here as well

Here's where it all starts to go wrong. The entire flavor profile is swallow by a massive vaporous alcohol note that strangles the beer. Strawberry notes struggle to announce themselves but are slapped back hard.

Drinks like a beer much high in abv and the sweetness here serves as strike two. The alcohol notes are relentless and I dumped the remaining few ounces.

As much as I'd like to support Karben4 and appreciate their beers, this was a big miss for me. Maybe I'll stumble across a tap sometime and give it a second go around, but man I'm happy I asked for a single as the price point isn't all that enjoyable either.

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Photo of WI-Beer-Man
3.81/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

12 oz bottle poured into a Central Waters snifter

Dark amber color with a finger and a half of fluffy white head.

Smelled very citrusy from a distance and had a slight alcohol scent as well

Taste was sweet and malty up front and bitter on the back end but the two didn't meld well. It was slightly disjointed. Lots of alcohol on the taste for 8.4%. I expected higher abv for the booziness.

Mouthfeel was thick and slightly syrupy.

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Photo of RoamingGnome
4.3/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Read about how much folks were enjoying this beer at the Great Taste of the Midwest, so I was pretty happy to scoop up a four pack at Discount Liquor. I enjoyed this fine beverage well chilled in a teku glass. It was a darker Amber with a finger of tight head. The aroma was pleasingly sweet. The type of oranges you would use for fresh squeezed morning OJ. A little bit of ripe peach too. The flavor is malty, but balanced with some hop kick. The alcohol is well hidden, but certainly more detectable as the beer warms. It's quite juicy. Not quite syrupy, but the mouthfeel is a thicker medium. A very well done beer. No regrets on this purchase at all....

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Photo of madtowndmb1
4.39/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

I really liked it but it was a little to syrupy for the 8.4%. Very excited this came from a hometown brewery and it's in all stores without limits or lines. Wait to go Karben4!

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Photo of mjpolzin
4.31/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Amazing, juicy citrus taste. As I said in my overall review of the Great Taste of the Midwest; a good IPA or DIPA is easy to make (in my opinion) but a great one is not. This one is great as the taste and the incredible nose make it stand out. I was very surprised that out of all the beers I had at the GTMW, this one stood out above the rest.

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Photo of RJB66
4.87/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Exceptional brew. Great flavor, huge citrus taste. Finishes very easy. Very juicy, exploded in my mouth. I highly recommend this awesome beer. You will not be disappointed!

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Photo of kkleu357
4/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Medium light orangish body. Very fruity aroma. Taste is very bitter with lots of citrus fruits. I asked, and this is not a double of fantasy factory, but this sure is similar. Seemed more rich than FF.

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Photo of brentk56
4.04/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Arrives at the bar with a very hazy burnt orange color; the two inches of foam leave a webby pattern of lacing

Smell: The hop resins can be smelled before the bartender places the glass on the counter - the aromatics of tropical fruit and pine are bursting

Taste: Caramel malt forms the backbone for a second and then the hops assault the palate, bringing bitterness first and subtle flavors second; guava and passion fruit add a tropical dimension to the grapefruit pith and pine; herbal elements are in the mix, as well; the bitterness never lets up and lingers well into the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate to high carbonation

Overall: This is quite a DIPA; I like the malt profile but the 120 IBUs are a bit too much; I am afraid the brewery needs to update their website mission statement - here is what they say:

"The quick and dirty is that Karben4 specializes in English-style malt bombs...we only use malts and hops in synergy...Above all, we require our brews to be balanced. When you are spending your hard-earned money on a pint you shouldn't have to fight through a rough spot in the flavor profile to get to the good part."

Well, in this beer I had to fight through quite a rough spot!

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Photo of Stevedore
4.25/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

On tap at Karben4's taproom. Full pint poured into a Karben4 snifter 9/14/2014.

A- Dark copper body, frothy thick white head with excellent retention time. I think they pour it intentionally to get plenty of head... but for the most part, this is a great looking beer with voluminous rings of lacing.

S- Tons of citrus, grapefruit, floral notes and even a bit of pine resin. Balanced nicely by a sweet caramel malt backbone. This is a lot hoppier than I expected for a Karben4 offering. Really, really juicy.

F- As in the nose, there is a lot of aromatic hops here that make this a very juicy bit of caramel. Grapefruit, tropical fruit, floral hops dominate up front, with the sweet caramel pale malt backbone coming into play in the middle of the palate; then the pine finishes things out with a nice dry bitterness. This is great and easily the best Karben4 beer I've had so far. Very well-executed, hoppy and complex.

M- Substantial medium-thick mouthfeel, quite resinous but dry with a nice carbonation to it. Very easy to drink despite being fairly bitter on the backend with the pine resin.

O- Overall a good double IPA, and one I can get behind locally. This is very good with a lot of hoppiness and the right amount of balance to it. It seems to be more of a west coast style IPA but with a nice east coast style IPA citrus contribution. Overall pleased with this one, and I've had a lot of great double IPAs.

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Photo of Dad_of_Rad
4.5/5  rDev +9.8%

A: Darker orange with slight haze. Not a huge head, but the growler is a few days old. Lacing is spotty, but lingers.

A: Bitter orange/citrus, fruit gum, underripe pineapple. Slight green onion, more like a spicy note than earthy.

T: You'd think it'd be bitter, but it's very balanced. Light caramel, some bitterness I think mainly from the bitter citrus. Finishes with bitter flavor at outside edges of tongue with slight sweetness in the middle. Some alcohol burn, not overpowering.

Really great beer! I'm a Pipeworks fan, but enjoy this so much. Pipeworks IIPA are not as balanced and you know you're drinking a big beer. Karben4 did an awesome job with this beer!

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Photo of Ri0
4.54/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

poured into snifter from tap.

A - Pours a darker orange color into the snifter with a gorgeous 2 finger white finger of head disappears quickly and leaves behind beautiful webbed lacing.

S - The scent is perfect blend of tropical, citrus, and bitter grapefruit. The Citra, Mosaic, and Simcoe work in harmony. Think of pineapples, mangoes, oranges, and grapefruits all blended together creating a transcendent aroma.

T - Yes! Absolutely fantastic fruits in the taste is more of the same blend of citrus, tropical and bitter grapefruit juice. Pineapples, mangoes, oranges, grapefruits, and other juicy treasures and met with a smooth caramel malt. So much goodness and the finish packs a bitter punch. A bit of alcohol in the finish.

M - Zippy carbonation with oily hop residue left on the tongue.

O - A maltier and hoppy, imperial version of Fantasy Factory. It is right up there with some of the best IIPA's I have had, but it will only be around for a short time this year. Get some!

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Idiot Farm from Karben4 Brewing
4.1 out of 5 based on 112 ratings.
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