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Ichabod Ale 2008 | Alpine Beer Company

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Ichabod Ale 2008Ichabod Ale 2008

Brewed by:
Alpine Beer Company
California, United States

Style: Dunkelweizen

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by seaoflament on 11-01-2008

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of Arbitrator
1.62/5  rDev -53%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Chilled bottle into a glass. Shared by Nanoslug as part of a pumpkin beer tasting. Thanks guys! From notes.

A: Pours a translucent black body. Massive head. Hmm.

S: Pumpkin spice (nutmeg, cinnamon) with elements of roast, a slightly lactic character, cherries, and tamarind. Not awful, but against other beers on the table, decidedly subpar and unappealing.

T: Tastes like a slightly soured milk stout (i.e. beyond the lactic twang you'd expect from that style). A touch of cherry and tamarind. Chocolate, roast.

M: Light-medium body with a dry-ish finish. It has a slick cherry aftertaste.

D: It was likely infected, but not totally irredeemable. The problem was that at a tasting next to a bunch of other perfectly fine or even great beers, this was a large waste of time. Alpine seems to have a hilarious dichotomy between infected / undrinkable and amazing. Is there a middle ground?

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Photo of TurdFurgison
2.64/5  rDev -23.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Thanks to mikesgroove for the bottle. This was a strange beer, I expected a dunkelweizen with pumpkin pie spices (from the label description), and although some change in character should be expected after 1 year of age this beer is missing all of those characteristics.

The beer is dark brown, opaque, with a think mocah colored foam. The smell is lacking any weizen aromas, mostly malty-bitter with a chocolate edge and a disturbing sour note in the background. I get no pumpkin whatever, but in its place a hint of cough syrup (maybe due to age). The taste is pretty much the same as the smell, sour notes take the lead with some bitterness and a little cocoa in the aftertaste. The body is OK but who cares, the flavors are too odd. This is one beer I won't try again, even as they change the base...

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Photo of theopholis
2.74/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance- This stuff is jet black. I don't even see any high-lights when I hold it up to the light. Nice, 2-finger tan, foamy, head. No staying power, no lacing. Not very impressive for a dunkel.

Smell- The smell has a nice Holiday feel to it. Nice toasty notes, some roasted malts, fairly complex melange of various spices (all-spice, cinamin, nutmeg) and a bit of yeastiness and some tartness.

Taste- Huge roasted malt taste. Some caramel malt and maybe a touch of chocolate in there as well and very light clove. Maybe a hint of licorice and coriander to. Not outstanding, but not to awful.

Mouthfeel- Oddly thin. Affects not only the mouthfeel, but detracts from the flavor to. Good carbonation.

Drinkability? Not great, but not bad.

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Photo of jrob21
2.75/5  rDev -20.3%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

This one came in from Snojerk. Pour is pretty dark brown with a small but present tan head. This is one of those spiced pumpkin kinda of beers instead of the pumpkin pumpkin kind. A little on the cinnamon and clove side of things. Aroma was slightly nutty and everything was backed up with a bit of a caramel sweetness. Not incredibly memorable for any one particular thing but a drinkable spiced beer if that’s your thing. Right now this one is not really mine.

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Photo of PatronWizard
2.76/5  rDev -20%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Scored at Lone Hill Liquor.

Pours a completely opaque brown. Damn near black. Nice fluffy head. Almost white. Settles slowly.

Smells kinda musty. Smells like a closet or shoe box. Strong ... spice?

Unique flavor. Ashy. Not quite smokey. Carbonated a little harshly. I'm not terribly impressed. Not gross, just far from good.

Between the not too keen flavor and the pathetic ABV, I won't be back.

Overall: whatever

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Photo of mcallister
3.15/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Very muddy brown appearance and thick with some carbonation streaming up the sides of the chalice. A fluffy yet refined tan head fades into a foamy blanket.

Chocolate with nutmeg, cinnamon, hints of wheat, milk chocolate, hints of clove, and cinnamon. With some more chocolate.

Unfortunately this beer is lacking complexity which I'm very suprised about. Roasty malts with hints of clove and hints of chocolate. The pumpkin pie spices come through on the finish but it's just lacking depth of flavor. Very one dimensional and thin. I think a dunkelweizenbock would have worked better:)

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Photo of Halcyondays
3.15/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

22 oz. bomber,

A: Pours brown with a full off-tan head, very good retention, light lacing, a nice looking pint.

S: Strong notes of spice, some pumpkin, sweet molasses, distinct coffee.

T: Taste is markedly different than the smell. Initially heavy nutmeg hits, I love nutmeg, but it was overpowering and out of balance with the rest of the flavours. Warming up it gets better and the flavours are nice, but not the pumpkin dunkelweizen I expected on the label. It tastes a lot more like a stout, the roasted notes are nice, but not what I was expecting, it doesn't have any of the yeast character of a dark weisse. Light pumpkin flesh and cinnamon in the aftertaste, but it is really a minor note.

M: Found it fizzy with too much carbonation, definitely needs a fuller body.

D: This beer has its good points, but for what I expected going in I didn't get. This is more of mix of a stout and winter warmer than a dunkelweisse. Worth a try, but with the high price tag, this'll be my last bomber.

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Photo of prototypic
3.16/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Huge thanks to csmiley for splitting the bomber.

Ichabod's an interesting beer. I originally thought this was a pumpkin ale. A dunkelweizen, eh? Alright. Pours a dark mahogany brown color. It's very close to opaque. A hint of light cuts through giving it a slight garnet hue. It's topped off with a vanilla colored head that's about a finger or so deep. It was quick to recede and left light strands of lace lining the glass.

The nose continues its interesting trek. It starts out a little malty. There's a cocoa-ish aroma from chocolate malts. It doesn't exactly smell sweet. It comes across as slightly sour smelling. It's a little musky and a bit funky smelling. There's some light pumpkin. It's not very pronounced, but is noted. Pumpkin spices? I'm not getting that. Hops are noted and give it an earthy scent. Grains are noted throughout each whiff. Ichabod's not a bad smelling beer, but it's far from artful. The components don't seem to mesh well and are perceived as individual parts rather than a well orchestrated symphony.

The flavor profile is consistent with the nose. It kicks off with a little cocoa. There's some perceived chocolate, but no real sweetness. Ichabod is grainy and earthy throughout. It features an interesting musky flavor that's not altogether good. In terms of pumpkin, there's not a great deal. Perhaps a slight pumpkin flavor, rather than pumpkin spice. I'm not picking up any nutmeg or cinnamon. Interesting. There are some hops that give it a bit of a buzzy bite. They're very welcome here and definitely help. It finishes dry and a little bitter. Overall, the flavor's a bit disappointing. The bland pumpkin flavor...well....strike that. None of the flavors work very well together. It's honestly very jumbled and merely okay.

The body is medium and is smooth. Carbonation is dialed down pretty low. This is probably Ichabod's greatest asset. It does have a nice feel. Drinkability is average. The flavor's not working well for me. I'm glad I don't have the whole bomber to myself. It'd be a struggle.

Ichabod's disappointing. At least this 2008 release is disappointing. I had high hopes for this one and had looked forward to it for a long time. Unfortunately, the various scents and flavors do not work well together at all. It needs a good bit of work all around to improve. I'm guessing Alpine releases a different beer for this each year. That'd be a good thing in my book. If so, I'd be more than happy to give this one a go next year. As for this one, it's pretty forgettable.

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Photo of tpd975
3.17/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This one came from Joey at Southbay. Been keeping it around for a bit.

A: Pours a flat dark blackish brown hue. Small fizzy head with no retention or lace.

S: Lots of real pumpkin meat, raw cacao nibs, and a blend of pie spice.

T: Rather sharp. Like taking a spoonful of real cocoa and nutmeg and putting it in your mouth. Hints of chocolate, ash, and earth as well. Pumpkin straight from the can is there but somewhat hidden beneath the sharp flavors. The more I drink the sharpness almost gets tin like.

M: Medium in body, light carbonation.

D: Okay, I put the whole bottle away. I know it was a totally different style, but I liked the first version better.

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Photo of magictrokini
3.18/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Tap @ O'Briens. Pours dark, dark brown with a creamy off-white head. Veggie and smoke aroma with a fair amount of spice. Taste was hard to pin down. Malty and creamy with a bit of cocoa and roast, but also a nutmeg and cinnamon kick. Throughout there is a strange taste that can only be described as tasting the way a jack o'lantern smells as it burns. I really don't know whether I liked this one or not.

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Photo of Brewlore
3.19/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Poured a dark auburn/chocolate color with some nice hues as it poured. It quickly formed a beautiful 2-finger tan colored head that stuck around for a good while.

The spice aroma hits you first but the sweet dark malts are right there behind making sure the spice does not get unruly. The esters are present and there's a certain aroma that is predominant, I can't place what it is but it's not too pleasant. If chalky were an aroma then that would be it.

Tasting this brew was not what I expected at all! I guess I shouldn't have gone into this with a preconceived notion of what it'll taste like. The spices are present especially the nutmeg and it's eugenol is present. They actually lend a chalky taste to this brew. The ever ominous dark malts come through with a subtle chocolate flavor matched with a roasty flavor. A hit of a spicy/herbal hop bite coming in (or the spice could be from the phenols). The flavor also offers up some nutty malty notes.

It's light/medium bodied. The carbonation is perfect though. Finishes dry.

It's a lightweight beer at 5% so you can knock back a few of these pretty safely. Would I knock back more than one? Probably not, that's not saying it's a bad brew, as it offers up an interesting drink.

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Photo of pmarlowe
3.2/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2008 Ichabod. Bought at Alpine Beer Company during 2011 SDBW. Tulip glass.

A: Pours essentially black with a bit of light sand colored ring of head. No lacing.

S: Pumpkin and nutmeg, and faint roasted/chocolate malt in the secondary.

T: Light and mouthwatering pumpkin, a hint of nutmeg underneath, and some cinnamon on the finish. Extremely dry and a little watery with some acidity.

M: Medium body and very light carbonation, a tad too light.

O: Easy drinking, I guess, but so-so flavors. I occasionally detect a fleeting ash note in the smell and taste which is less than pleasant.

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Photo of SShelly
3.23/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a Dark brown with a light brown head, small amount of ruby highlights.

Has some spice and light roast in the aroma, very mellow.

Flavor follows the aroma, light roast, dark malt and light spice with a very mellow finish that doesnt hang around in the mouth. Not that impressed, the spices overpower the malt and roast, and are out of balance with eachother.

Not my favorite alpine offering, if the spices were worked in better together then this beer would be much improved.

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Photo of BeerTruth
3.3/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks to Joey for this one.

22 oz. bomber poured into a weizen glass.

Pours a mostly black with some ruby outlines and a big fluffy two finger khaki colored head that falls to a layer which lasts throughout. Some webbing sticks to the sides, but not a whole lot. Smell is a light blend of pumpkin puree, cinnamon, and nutmeg. Some coffee and cocoa powder tickle the nose with an unwanted metallic scent as well. Pretty subdued aroma overall, but that's a good thing when it comes to pumkin beers. Taste begins with smokey chocolate malts and very faint carmelized pumpkin seeds. Midway light bready flavors with weak cinnamon and clove on the tongue. Musty cocoa powder and some earthiness in the aftertaste. Overall this is very watered down and lacks the hefty malts that I was really hoping for. Light to medium body with a stinging feel from the over the top carbonation, not very enjoyable in the mouth. Unfortunately Alpine missed the mark with 2008 Ichabod, because last years was such a winner. Definitely unique, but back to the drawing boards with this one.

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Photo of csmiley
3.4/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a dark brown and lets very little light through on the edges. The tan head rises to about an inch and disappears pretty quick. Lacing is minimal. Appearance is pretty average for this beer.

S - Aroma is very light. Deep Dark malt aromas hit the nose first. Picking up toasted wheat and a touch of chocolate. Slightly dry grainy aroma pops up in the middle. There might be a hint of pumpkin in the distant, distant, distant, background.

T - Flavor is on the light side but still pleasant. Caramel and cocoa start it all off. Some bread flavors quickly follow - kind of like a toasted crust. Pumpkin has a stronger presence in the flavor but it is still pretty light and restrained. The pumpkin spices are also in the flavor and stay out of the way for the most part. Nutmeg is there but not much cinnamon.

M - Lighter bodied with a light carbonation. Starts out a little creamy and finishes with a dark grain dryness. Smooth overall.

D - Drinkability is good. The beer overall is a little disappointing. Everything works together in this brew to make up a slightly above average beverage. Flavor and aroma seem to be muted in a way that is hard to describe. I guess I was just expecting more. The lighter alcohol level makes this one pretty easy to put away but it's gets tough to keep coming back for more of this one. Glad I got to try it but will not seek it out again.

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Photo of Floydster
3.43/5  rDev -0.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22 ounce bottle purchased from Red Carpet Wine in Glendale for $7.79, split with my dad yesterday, poured into my weizen glass

A-Pours a deep dark brown with some mahogany edges, 3/4 inch creamy beige head that stays around about ten minutes, nice retention, not much lacing
S-Pumpkin, cinnamon, nutmeg, milk chocolate, cream, wheat, brown sugar, yeast other spices, roasted malts, earthiness, toasted bread, bananas, and some anise
T-Taste is watered down and did not have enough malt backbone to really make it work, the pumpkin is not near as prominent as I hope for either, the aroma kind of fooled me on that end, starts off with some mild spciy and earthy accents, the middle has some breadier malt but not much, pumpkin is in the finish with roasted malts, some light chocolate comes to the surface later on along with the nutmeg that was also stronger in the smell, flavor was enjoyable but it was just lacking that extra push, way too light for its style
M-Mouthfeel was the weakest part of this brew, very light, slightly spicy, a bit roasty and smoky even at times, medium bodied, strong level of carbonation for its style, taste does not linger
D-Could drink a bomber and that would be about it, taste gets a little old, alcohol is low at five percent but seems higher at times from its taste, flavor can be heavy on the stomach

A Bavarian dunkelweizen with pumpkin sounds very interesting and this beer delivered that, it was not nearly as good as last year's wild pumpkin ale in my opinion though, although it seems to be selling just as well, I might drink this again but will not go out of my way, still worth trying

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Photo of HopHeadinAZ
3.48/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear dark brown with a medium tan head that quickly reduces to a crown. The smell is pumpkin and spice? It's actually quite subdued but the beer could be too cold. The taste is nutmeg with a hint of chocolate and roast. The mouth feel is thin and fleeting. While this is an easily drinkable that doesn't offend it doesn't leave me wanting for more. But I'm not well acquainted with the style so my opinion may be unfair.

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Photo of gford217
3.51/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark, dark brown with hints of mahogany around the edges. The tan head is big and creamy and shows good retention and leaves decent lacing.

The aroma is pretty mellow and dominated by roasted malts, hints of pumpkin, and a little bit of spice thrown in.

The taste also has the toasted chocolate malts up front with only the faintest hint of pumpkin and spices. There's definitely a lighter bready character in the background that takes away from the heft. The aftertaste is light and dry.

The mouthfeel is light for the style and slightly watered down. The carbonation is fairly high but there's not enough body underneath to make it meaningful.

I was not too impressed with this one and was expecting something with a little more umph. For a low ABV beer, it's not that drinkable, like they were trying to make a big beer but left out the body. Interesting...

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Photo of HalfFull
3.53/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

An interesting brew, this beer pours a rich and dark milk chocolate brown from the keg. A rich tan head sits and stays atop the brew, diminishing to a quarter inch at half a glass and leaving heavy yet thin lacing.

Initial notes were of coffee and stout notes, moving towards a bit of porter as some chocolate and nut were present as well. Even more nut as the head wore off and a bit of sour yeast at the bottom. Overall however, the nose is rather light and the taste is moderate of malts and light spice.

Did not pick up the pumpkin or banana to the point that I wonder if I got the actual product. This is certainly not what I would expect from a Dunkel. Smooth and easy on the feel and good drinkability given the feel and light ABV.

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Photo of hopdog
3.53/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle shared thanks to Josh.

Poured a dark black color with a small sized off white head. Aromas of roast, lightly earthy, some spices,a nd light pumpkins. Tastes of pumpkin seeds, chocoalte, caramel, and some spices. The pumpkin (both aromas and tastes) where on the softer and subtle side.

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Photo of msubulldog25
3.57/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A 22 oz. bottle acquired back around Thanksgiving; it's been chilling in the coldest part of the cellar for past two months. Opened last night and poured to a tall weizen glass.

The label admonishes: "Drink Alpine Ale or Go to Bed!". I chose the former...

A: Pours very dark, a brackish chocolate-brown. Shows traces of orange/auburn toward the edges, especially once the finger+ of khaki cream fades away (too quickly). A remaining gauzy film is pock-marked where carbonation rises. Slight ring of lace, nothing really sticks. A thin, orange/brown layer of silt coats the bottom of the bottle.

S: Good aroma of rich malt: several spices, cocoa powder, baked dark bread. A nice little smokiness (charcoal?) and some nutty smell, too. What was missing for me was the banana/clove esters that I expect from the style. Granted, the smell was really good/robust so my '4' grade is one I'll stick to.

T: Very dark, a muddled mix of dry/grainy huskiness and powdery/earthy spice. Bark-like nutmeg and a little chalky bitterness. On a couple sips, this tasted just like a piece of melba toast, dark and grainy. Another sip brought a light sour tang. Not unlikable, an interesting twist on a dunkelweizen, I guess...

M: Light/medium body with a moderate carbonation zest. Feel seems a little thin, and leaves a fine grit. Finishes dull and with a mineral/metallic bitterness.

D: Not bad to drink, no problem polishing off this 5% 'lightweight'. With a building carbonation, it was one of the more 'filling' beers I've had in a while. I wouldn't mind having this again, pairing with a meal next time. Unfortunately, this is a seasonal release so that chance seems unlikely.

Thanks, Kyle, for giving me a chance to try this one.

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Photo of NickMunford
3.58/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- Pours dark opaque brown with a small fizzy head which dissipates quickly. No lacing.

S- Malt, nutmeg and other spices. Light pumpkin spice aromas.

T- The flavors that come through when you smell it are the same ones there when you taste it. Has a bit of smokiness to it.

M- Feels a bit fizzy, but smooth in the mouth.

D- Easily drinkable. I could probably easily go through a couple of bombers in a night.

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Photo of nickd717
3.6/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Review dated 12/19/2008. Bomber from City Beer.

An interesting and complex beer, the first I have tried from Alpine. I want to dock them some points for calling a lager an ale, but I will let em off easy. Flavor is dominated by roasted malt with strong pumpkin and spices and some acidity. It is a little more watery on the mouthfeel than you would expect, but then again, as much as they try to deny it, it is a lager so you cannot fault it there.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
3.6/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

2008 Release; Sampled November 2008
A fairly gentle pour into my 25cl tulip glass produces a three-finger thick, somewhat large bubbled, darkly browned head. The beer is almost black in color and doesn't pass any color when held up to the light, but does pick up a touch of amber color. The aroma smells of grassy grain, some clove, roasted grain, lots of toasted grain notes, and some light spice notes that add a perceived sweetness (cinnamon and a touch of nutmeg). I like that the spices are nice and soft here, this smells more like pumpkin pie (or something like that) than of any individual spice components.

Fairly dry tasting and it finishes with a significant toasted grain component as well as a touch of burnt grain that tends to get magnified as it lingers on in the palate. This is quite light bodied (at least for a holiday brew). There is a slight squash like note here that faintly contributes towards the middle here and the spices contribute a subdued, note towards the finish where the nutmeg seems to intermingle with the roast grain. This has a very subdued, to non-existent Weizen character; makes me wonder if a traditional Weizen yeast was used, if it was the roast grain pretty much over-powers most of the other flavors, including any Weizen notes. The roast character is nice though, not too overpowering and it has a nice mix of flavors with toasted, whole grain bread notes, a touch of roast coffee notes and a bit of burnt acidity in the finish. The dark grain character is definitely on the smooth side.

A tasty beer, but a bit of a disappointment; I would have loved to have seen either more of the traditional Weizen flavors here, or perhaps a richer beer with more pumpkin character (heck both might even have worked quite nicely). As it is this seems like a nice, quaffable, wheat-porter with a hint of spices.

Purchased: South Bay Drugs, Imperial Beach CA

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Photo of brentk56
3.61/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: More stout-like than anything else, with a mignight brown color (ruby highlights) and a massive head that leaves a reasonable amount of stranding behind

Smell: Smells like an old pumpkin spice cabinet, with black bread, nutmeg and cinnamon elements

Taste: Tamarind, with a developing sour fruity character; the subtle black bread, nutmeg and cinnamon character stand out by mid-palate and after the swallow

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: I don't think Alpine should have ever used the word "Dunkelweizen" in describing this beer as that has thrown off countless reviewers as this does not now nor apparently never has tasted much like a Dunkelweizen; I think it is uniquely interesting and if it had more Dunkleweizen character to it would be a much better beer; as it stands it is just OK; Alpine might be on to something and I hope they figure it out with a future edition of this brew

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Ichabod Ale 2008 from Alpine Beer Company
3.45 out of 5 based on 50 ratings.
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