Ichabod Ale 2008 | Alpine Beer Company

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Ichabod Ale 2008Ichabod Ale 2008

Brewed by:
Alpine Beer Company
California, United States

Style: Dunkelweizen

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by seaoflament on 11-01-2008

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of jrob21
2.75/5  rDev -20.3%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

This one came in from Snojerk. Pour is pretty dark brown with a small but present tan head. This is one of those spiced pumpkin kinda of beers instead of the pumpkin pumpkin kind. A little on the cinnamon and clove side of things. Aroma was slightly nutty and everything was backed up with a bit of a caramel sweetness. Not incredibly memorable for any one particular thing but a drinkable spiced beer if that’s your thing. Right now this one is not really mine.

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Photo of pmarlowe
3.2/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

2008 Ichabod. Bought at Alpine Beer Company during 2011 SDBW. Tulip glass.

A: Pours essentially black with a bit of light sand colored ring of head. No lacing.

S: Pumpkin and nutmeg, and faint roasted/chocolate malt in the secondary.

T: Light and mouthwatering pumpkin, a hint of nutmeg underneath, and some cinnamon on the finish. Extremely dry and a little watery with some acidity.

M: Medium body and very light carbonation, a tad too light.

O: Easy drinking, I guess, but so-so flavors. I occasionally detect a fleeting ash note in the smell and taste which is less than pleasant.

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Photo of nickd717
3.6/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Review dated 12/19/2008. Bomber from City Beer.

An interesting and complex beer, the first I have tried from Alpine. I want to dock them some points for calling a lager an ale, but I will let em off easy. Flavor is dominated by roasted malt with strong pumpkin and spices and some acidity. It is a little more watery on the mouthfeel than you would expect, but then again, as much as they try to deny it, it is a lager so you cannot fault it there.

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Photo of Gobzilla
3.97/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: poured a dark brown in color with brown highlights and had a very thin bubbly head leaving a little lacing sticking to the glass.

S: all spice, cinnamon, and nutmef were pretty faint on the aroma with slight vinger tart notes and mild vinous notes.

T: the all spice, cinnamon, and nutmeg were more apparent on the palate with some tart qualities mild vinegar but a touch fo chocolate and brown sugar.

M: the brew was medium in body with a good amount of carbonation which had a sweet, spice, mild vinous, and tart finish.

D: drank real good and was definitely a cool take on a pumpkin style dunkelweizen.

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Photo of Arbitrator
1.62/5  rDev -53%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Chilled bottle into a glass. Shared by Nanoslug as part of a pumpkin beer tasting. Thanks guys! From notes.

A: Pours a translucent black body. Massive head. Hmm.

S: Pumpkin spice (nutmeg, cinnamon) with elements of roast, a slightly lactic character, cherries, and tamarind. Not awful, but against other beers on the table, decidedly subpar and unappealing.

T: Tastes like a slightly soured milk stout (i.e. beyond the lactic twang you'd expect from that style). A touch of cherry and tamarind. Chocolate, roast.

M: Light-medium body with a dry-ish finish. It has a slick cherry aftertaste.

D: It was likely infected, but not totally irredeemable. The problem was that at a tasting next to a bunch of other perfectly fine or even great beers, this was a large waste of time. Alpine seems to have a hilarious dichotomy between infected / undrinkable and amazing. Is there a middle ground?

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Photo of brentk56
3.61/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: More stout-like than anything else, with a mignight brown color (ruby highlights) and a massive head that leaves a reasonable amount of stranding behind

Smell: Smells like an old pumpkin spice cabinet, with black bread, nutmeg and cinnamon elements

Taste: Tamarind, with a developing sour fruity character; the subtle black bread, nutmeg and cinnamon character stand out by mid-palate and after the swallow

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: I don't think Alpine should have ever used the word "Dunkelweizen" in describing this beer as that has thrown off countless reviewers as this does not now nor apparently never has tasted much like a Dunkelweizen; I think it is uniquely interesting and if it had more Dunkleweizen character to it would be a much better beer; as it stands it is just OK; Alpine might be on to something and I hope they figure it out with a future edition of this brew

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Photo of TurdFurgison
2.64/5  rDev -23.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Thanks to mikesgroove for the bottle. This was a strange beer, I expected a dunkelweizen with pumpkin pie spices (from the label description), and although some change in character should be expected after 1 year of age this beer is missing all of those characteristics.

The beer is dark brown, opaque, with a think mocah colored foam. The smell is lacking any weizen aromas, mostly malty-bitter with a chocolate edge and a disturbing sour note in the background. I get no pumpkin whatever, but in its place a hint of cough syrup (maybe due to age). The taste is pretty much the same as the smell, sour notes take the lead with some bitterness and a little cocoa in the aftertaste. The body is OK but who cares, the flavors are too odd. This is one beer I won't try again, even as they change the base...

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Photo of tpd975
3.17/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This one came from Joey at Southbay. Been keeping it around for a bit.

A: Pours a flat dark blackish brown hue. Small fizzy head with no retention or lace.

S: Lots of real pumpkin meat, raw cacao nibs, and a blend of pie spice.

T: Rather sharp. Like taking a spoonful of real cocoa and nutmeg and putting it in your mouth. Hints of chocolate, ash, and earth as well. Pumpkin straight from the can is there but somewhat hidden beneath the sharp flavors. The more I drink the sharpness almost gets tin like.

M: Medium in body, light carbonation.

D: Okay, I put the whole bottle away. I know it was a totally different style, but I liked the first version better.

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Photo of womencantsail
3.68/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Well, I bought this one thinking it was the Wild Ale. Oh well, it'll have to do...

A: Pours just about black with a small mocha colored foam.

S: There is only a slight pumpkin aroma, but lots of coffee and a mild spice character.

T: The pumpkin taste is a bit more pronounced than the aroma. A malty, wheat bready quality and sweetness. There is a subtle spiciness and a hint of vanilla.

M: There is moderate carbonation and a medium body.

D: I was pretty disappointed at my mistake, especially because Dunkels are not really my thing. The pumpkin flavor was mild, and I would have liked more, but still a decent beer.

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Photo of Kegatron
3.7/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle into a couple of pint glasses. Thanks go to HopDerek for splitting this one.

Pours black with a finger of reddish and burnt tan colored head. Retains mostly with a thinnish ring around the edges and is absolutely dead in the middle. Swirling yields a cascade of moderately spotty lace and brown oils up on the sides of the glass. I can actually pick up some light notes of roasted pumpkin seeds in the aroma, along with some cinnamon and nutmeg spicing, which give the nose just the tiniest bit of zip. Heavy wheat and chocolate sweetness stands out to me as well, as does some green floral character in the back. Light warmth stealthily glides just under the other flavors.

The taste starts out with greenish pumpkin meat and toasted seeds, along with some sharp spicing that gives this a springy feel in the mouth. Bready wheat, cocoa powder, and maybe even some vanilla in there add some malty sweetness to the profile. There's some hop character that floats along the back of the taste but most of the green flavors that I'm getting seem to be coming from the pumpkin. The mouthfeel is fuller bodied with a lower feeling carbonation that gives this a more slick and viscous feel in the mouth. Considering the amount of maltiness in the taste, this works surprisingly decently.

A Pumpkin Dunkelweizen is an interesting brewing choice, and while even though the whole thing kind of seemed a bit muddled at first, this somehow worked for me. The combination of the toasted pumpkin, spices, and thicker malts gave this a pleasant harvest-time imbibing feel. I would have definitely have drank a few bombers of this last fall if it had been local to me.

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Photo of csmiley
3.4/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Pours a dark brown and lets very little light through on the edges. The tan head rises to about an inch and disappears pretty quick. Lacing is minimal. Appearance is pretty average for this beer.

S - Aroma is very light. Deep Dark malt aromas hit the nose first. Picking up toasted wheat and a touch of chocolate. Slightly dry grainy aroma pops up in the middle. There might be a hint of pumpkin in the distant, distant, distant, background.

T - Flavor is on the light side but still pleasant. Caramel and cocoa start it all off. Some bread flavors quickly follow - kind of like a toasted crust. Pumpkin has a stronger presence in the flavor but it is still pretty light and restrained. The pumpkin spices are also in the flavor and stay out of the way for the most part. Nutmeg is there but not much cinnamon.

M - Lighter bodied with a light carbonation. Starts out a little creamy and finishes with a dark grain dryness. Smooth overall.

D - Drinkability is good. The beer overall is a little disappointing. Everything works together in this brew to make up a slightly above average beverage. Flavor and aroma seem to be muted in a way that is hard to describe. I guess I was just expecting more. The lighter alcohol level makes this one pretty easy to put away but it's gets tough to keep coming back for more of this one. Glad I got to try it but will not seek it out again.

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Photo of prototypic
3.16/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Huge thanks to csmiley for splitting the bomber.

Ichabod's an interesting beer. I originally thought this was a pumpkin ale. A dunkelweizen, eh? Alright. Pours a dark mahogany brown color. It's very close to opaque. A hint of light cuts through giving it a slight garnet hue. It's topped off with a vanilla colored head that's about a finger or so deep. It was quick to recede and left light strands of lace lining the glass.

The nose continues its interesting trek. It starts out a little malty. There's a cocoa-ish aroma from chocolate malts. It doesn't exactly smell sweet. It comes across as slightly sour smelling. It's a little musky and a bit funky smelling. There's some light pumpkin. It's not very pronounced, but is noted. Pumpkin spices? I'm not getting that. Hops are noted and give it an earthy scent. Grains are noted throughout each whiff. Ichabod's not a bad smelling beer, but it's far from artful. The components don't seem to mesh well and are perceived as individual parts rather than a well orchestrated symphony.

The flavor profile is consistent with the nose. It kicks off with a little cocoa. There's some perceived chocolate, but no real sweetness. Ichabod is grainy and earthy throughout. It features an interesting musky flavor that's not altogether good. In terms of pumpkin, there's not a great deal. Perhaps a slight pumpkin flavor, rather than pumpkin spice. I'm not picking up any nutmeg or cinnamon. Interesting. There are some hops that give it a bit of a buzzy bite. They're very welcome here and definitely help. It finishes dry and a little bitter. Overall, the flavor's a bit disappointing. The bland pumpkin flavor...well....strike that. None of the flavors work very well together. It's honestly very jumbled and merely okay.

The body is medium and is smooth. Carbonation is dialed down pretty low. This is probably Ichabod's greatest asset. It does have a nice feel. Drinkability is average. The flavor's not working well for me. I'm glad I don't have the whole bomber to myself. It'd be a struggle.

Ichabod's disappointing. At least this 2008 release is disappointing. I had high hopes for this one and had looked forward to it for a long time. Unfortunately, the various scents and flavors do not work well together at all. It needs a good bit of work all around to improve. I'm guessing Alpine releases a different beer for this each year. That'd be a good thing in my book. If so, I'd be more than happy to give this one a go next year. As for this one, it's pretty forgettable.

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Photo of NickMunford
3.58/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- Pours dark opaque brown with a small fizzy head which dissipates quickly. No lacing.

S- Malt, nutmeg and other spices. Light pumpkin spice aromas.

T- The flavors that come through when you smell it are the same ones there when you taste it. Has a bit of smokiness to it.

M- Feels a bit fizzy, but smooth in the mouth.

D- Easily drinkable. I could probably easily go through a couple of bombers in a night.

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Photo of HopDerek
4.07/5  rDev +18%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A bomber picked up at Pizza Port Carlsbad's bottle shop back in December.

Pours a clear dark brown with 1 finger of khaki tan head. OK retention left some thin lacing rings. Smells of cinnamon, clove, pumpkin spice, chocolate, roasted nuts, and bread. Tastes of pumpkin meat, roasted nuts and pumpkin seeds, cinnamon, chocolate, and spiced bread. Medium in body with good carbonation. A little thin and a tad burnt, but overall quite roasty and enjoyable. Good pumpkin flavors, but still brings more to the plate than just spices. Could use more weizenbock character, but definitely an enjoyable Autumn brew.

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Photo of Wasatch
3.83/5  rDev +11%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks goes out to Bitterbill for this brew.

Pours a nice black color, nice carbonation, nice little fizzy tan head, with some sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, with some toffee/chocolate/coffee. The taste is sweet, malty, nice touch of dark stuff. Medium body. Drinkable, this is a tasty brew.

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Photo of BARFLYB
3.68/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22oz 2008 dunkelweizen version into a pint glass. Thought this was the wild ale version, oh well.

A- Ichabod 08 pours dark with a fairly mostly brown color bordering on black depending how you look at it. A nice fizzy dark tan head that faded leaving minimal lace.

S- Fairly abundant on the spice factor with nutmeg clove and cinnamon. Getting some wheat scents as well as yeast. Some chocolate in the distance.

T- A robust dunkle with more porter notes with some roasted malts and some vreadiness. The spices are throughout with the ones mentioned above. This one is quite nutty with warming. Maybe some pumpkin, but i'm not getting alot.

M- This one goes down a bit above thin but is silky which is weird based on presentation. A good amount of carb for a dunkel. The spices stick around long after sipping. Nice carb.

D- At 5% quite sessionable but I preferred to share this as a whole bottle to the head would be muck. An interesting take on a dunkel but I won't be revisiting.

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Photo of msubulldog25
3.57/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A 22 oz. bottle acquired back around Thanksgiving; it's been chilling in the coldest part of the cellar for past two months. Opened last night and poured to a tall weizen glass.

The label admonishes: "Drink Alpine Ale or Go to Bed!". I chose the former...

A: Pours very dark, a brackish chocolate-brown. Shows traces of orange/auburn toward the edges, especially once the finger+ of khaki cream fades away (too quickly). A remaining gauzy film is pock-marked where carbonation rises. Slight ring of lace, nothing really sticks. A thin, orange/brown layer of silt coats the bottom of the bottle.

S: Good aroma of rich malt: several spices, cocoa powder, baked dark bread. A nice little smokiness (charcoal?) and some nutty smell, too. What was missing for me was the banana/clove esters that I expect from the style. Granted, the smell was really good/robust so my '4' grade is one I'll stick to.

T: Very dark, a muddled mix of dry/grainy huskiness and powdery/earthy spice. Bark-like nutmeg and a little chalky bitterness. On a couple sips, this tasted just like a piece of melba toast, dark and grainy. Another sip brought a light sour tang. Not unlikable, an interesting twist on a dunkelweizen, I guess...

M: Light/medium body with a moderate carbonation zest. Feel seems a little thin, and leaves a fine grit. Finishes dull and with a mineral/metallic bitterness.

D: Not bad to drink, no problem polishing off this 5% 'lightweight'. With a building carbonation, it was one of the more 'filling' beers I've had in a while. I wouldn't mind having this again, pairing with a meal next time. Unfortunately, this is a seasonal release so that chance seems unlikely.

Thanks, Kyle, for giving me a chance to try this one.

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Photo of Tdizzle
3.82/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

22oz bottle purchased recently at Hollingshead's.

A- Poured into a an Allagash tulip glass, this beer pours black with some clear brown hues towards the bottom of my glass. A very brief head that's light brown in color quickly settles to a thick ring along the inside of my glass.

S- Thick aromas of heavily-roasted malted barley and...coffee? The characteristic aromas of the style are understated. Banana and clove are sort of there if you really dig for them, but notes of holiday spices such as nutmeg, allspice, and cinnamon are more prevalent.

T- At first, the taste is thin and slightly metallic, but the middle flavors save the day with roasted, bready malts, pumpkin pie spices, and bitter chocolate. There's a peculiar tartness that shows up towards the finish, which yields flavors of squashy pumpkin flesh, toasted grain, and coffee.

M- The mouthfeel is thin and bit watery, with a moderate amount of prickly carbonation that feels a tad too aggressive. I expected a more rich and smooth texture.

D- The 5% ABV makes this a pretty drinkable beer, but I just didn't feel compelled to explore it any further than my initial pour. I would have liked a more rich flavor that more closely resembled a dunkelweizen. Still good though.

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Photo of joe1510
3.97/5  rDev +15.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz Bomber

I have the opportunity to sample this dunkleweizen courtesy of the man, the myth, the legend...errantnight, thanks Derek! Ichabod 2008 fills this here weizen glass with a dark chocolate liquid that borders on black. The body doesn't allow a whole lot of light to shine through but there are a few small highlights of deep mahogany. Two fingers of creamy khaki head established itself on the pour and although it fell to a thick cap, had good staying power throughout the drink.

There's an interesting nose on this brew that I really enjoy. Lightly roasty grains bring coffee and dark chocolate while a graham cracker crust lays down the base. Pumpkin and nutmeg make up for the fillers in this brew and create a good mix of pumpkin pie, dark chocolate, and coffee. Actually the nose is like Thanksgiving dessert all in a glass. I'm very intrigued by the smell of this beer and can't keep from drinking any longer.

The flavor follows the aroma stride for stride. Pumpkin and pie spices, nutmeg being most apparent, with a graham cracker crust. Lightly roasty grains quickly combine with dark chocolate and cocoa with freshly brewed coffee bringing up the rear. The concept of a pumpkin pie infused dunkelweizen works really well in this case with all the roasty flavors adding the finishing touch.

The body is medium with a velvety smooth body and slick feel. When first poured the carbonation pushes things through a little fast but that quickly settles and the velvetiness takes over to create sheer bliss on the tongue.

This bomber goes down incredibly easy and I could see myself drinking a couple more glasses afterwards. The pumpkin pie spices may get in the way after a session of this dunkelweizen but it's hard to tell at this point. All I know is this bottle is going down easy.

Ichabod '08 is a high quality beer that I would love to have again. The light roastiness plays really well with the pumpkin and spices. I've read the reviews on this beer in the past and noticed they weren't all that great. I can't see why, I really enjoy this brew. Thanks again Derek!

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Photo of brewandbbq
3.68/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle at 52 degrees, courtesy of SouthBay Drugs.

Pours dark mahogany with a slight haze. A one inch head of tan foam sunk to a solid skim coat and stuck for the duration. A few streaks and dots of lacework throughout the goblet.

Roasted malt, toasted pumpkin, cocoa, and spice lead off the nose. Hints of bannana, nutmeg, hazelnut coffee, and cinnamon follow through. Quite roasty with a decent balance of pumpkin and spice.

Medium bodied with an exceptionally creamy mouthfeel. Velvety and smooth.

Roasted barley, cocoa powder, and some light pumpkin start the palate. Bannana skins, cloves, coffee grounds, and toasted nuts step forward.

Finishes with a slight warmth, lingering cocoa, fading spice, and a hint of meaty pumpkin.

Tasty enough, but not really remarkable in any aspect. Nicely balanced and highly drinkable. Just a bit meek coming from Alpine.

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Photo of paulthebeerguru
3.8/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours an impenetrable rich mahogany, witha huge tan head. Great retention rate and great lacing. Aromas of spices hit me first, some nutmeg and clove. Very sweet dark wheat malts in the nose. Slight funk and sourness in the nose. It has a great funked flavor, not really a dunkelweizen flavor. I get some roasted grain, very yeasty. Wonderful flavors of cinnamon and clove. I get a lot of funk, not sure if it should be there, but its good. A little chewy with all the flavor. Medium to light bodied, a fair amount of carbonation. Good brew over all but a little thin.

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Photo of PatronWizard
2.76/5  rDev -20%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Scored at Lone Hill Liquor.

Pours a completely opaque brown. Damn near black. Nice fluffy head. Almost white. Settles slowly.

Smells kinda musty. Smells like a closet or shoe box. Strong ... spice?

Unique flavor. Ashy. Not quite smokey. Carbonated a little harshly. I'm not terribly impressed. Not gross, just far from good.

Between the not too keen flavor and the pathetic ABV, I won't be back.

Overall: whatever

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Photo of HalfFull
3.53/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

An interesting brew, this beer pours a rich and dark milk chocolate brown from the keg. A rich tan head sits and stays atop the brew, diminishing to a quarter inch at half a glass and leaving heavy yet thin lacing.

Initial notes were of coffee and stout notes, moving towards a bit of porter as some chocolate and nut were present as well. Even more nut as the head wore off and a bit of sour yeast at the bottom. Overall however, the nose is rather light and the taste is moderate of malts and light spice.

Did not pick up the pumpkin or banana to the point that I wonder if I got the actual product. This is certainly not what I would expect from a Dunkel. Smooth and easy on the feel and good drinkability given the feel and light ABV.

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Photo of gford217
3.51/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark, dark brown with hints of mahogany around the edges. The tan head is big and creamy and shows good retention and leaves decent lacing.

The aroma is pretty mellow and dominated by roasted malts, hints of pumpkin, and a little bit of spice thrown in.

The taste also has the toasted chocolate malts up front with only the faintest hint of pumpkin and spices. There's definitely a lighter bready character in the background that takes away from the heft. The aftertaste is light and dry.

The mouthfeel is light for the style and slightly watered down. The carbonation is fairly high but there's not enough body underneath to make it meaningful.

I was not too impressed with this one and was expecting something with a little more umph. For a low ABV beer, it's not that drinkable, like they were trying to make a big beer but left out the body. Interesting...

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Photo of theopholis
2.74/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Appearance- This stuff is jet black. I don't even see any high-lights when I hold it up to the light. Nice, 2-finger tan, foamy, head. No staying power, no lacing. Not very impressive for a dunkel.

Smell- The smell has a nice Holiday feel to it. Nice toasty notes, some roasted malts, fairly complex melange of various spices (all-spice, cinamin, nutmeg) and a bit of yeastiness and some tartness.

Taste- Huge roasted malt taste. Some caramel malt and maybe a touch of chocolate in there as well and very light clove. Maybe a hint of licorice and coriander to. Not outstanding, but not to awful.

Mouthfeel- Oddly thin. Affects not only the mouthfeel, but detracts from the flavor to. Good carbonation.

Drinkability? Not great, but not bad.

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Ichabod Ale 2008 from Alpine Beer Company
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