Ichabod Ale 2008 | Alpine Beer Company

Ichabod Ale 2008Ichabod Ale 2008
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Ichabod Ale 2008Ichabod Ale 2008

Brewed by:
Alpine Beer Company
California, United States

Style: Dunkelweizen

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by seaoflament on 11-01-2008

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of Knapp85
2.5/5  rDev -27.7%

Photo of t0rin0
3.98/5  rDev +15%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours very dark, pretty much black, even in the light. Tall brown fluffy head, very little retention, only a little lace.

Smells mostly of roast and a little pumpkin spice. Interesting but its so heavy on the roast that I can't smell any of the german aspects of the beer.

Medium/heavy roast, some pumpkin flavor, cinnamon and nutmeg (?) or maybe clove, not quite sure. Basically everything is subtle behind the pumpkin. Medium bitterness, no alcohol.

Light/medium body, light carbonation, very drinkable and enjoyable.

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Photo of westcoastbeerlvr
3.5/5  rDev +1.2%

Photo of brentk56
3.61/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: More stout-like than anything else, with a mignight brown color (ruby highlights) and a massive head that leaves a reasonable amount of stranding behind

Smell: Smells like an old pumpkin spice cabinet, with black bread, nutmeg and cinnamon elements

Taste: Tamarind, with a developing sour fruity character; the subtle black bread, nutmeg and cinnamon character stand out by mid-palate and after the swallow

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: I don't think Alpine should have ever used the word "Dunkelweizen" in describing this beer as that has thrown off countless reviewers as this does not now nor apparently never has tasted much like a Dunkelweizen; I think it is uniquely interesting and if it had more Dunkleweizen character to it would be a much better beer; as it stands it is just OK; Alpine might be on to something and I hope they figure it out with a future edition of this brew

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Photo of Kegatron
3.7/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle into a couple of pint glasses. Thanks go to HopDerek for splitting this one.

Pours black with a finger of reddish and burnt tan colored head. Retains mostly with a thinnish ring around the edges and is absolutely dead in the middle. Swirling yields a cascade of moderately spotty lace and brown oils up on the sides of the glass. I can actually pick up some light notes of roasted pumpkin seeds in the aroma, along with some cinnamon and nutmeg spicing, which give the nose just the tiniest bit of zip. Heavy wheat and chocolate sweetness stands out to me as well, as does some green floral character in the back. Light warmth stealthily glides just under the other flavors.

The taste starts out with greenish pumpkin meat and toasted seeds, along with some sharp spicing that gives this a springy feel in the mouth. Bready wheat, cocoa powder, and maybe even some vanilla in there add some malty sweetness to the profile. There's some hop character that floats along the back of the taste but most of the green flavors that I'm getting seem to be coming from the pumpkin. The mouthfeel is fuller bodied with a lower feeling carbonation that gives this a more slick and viscous feel in the mouth. Considering the amount of maltiness in the taste, this works surprisingly decently.

A Pumpkin Dunkelweizen is an interesting brewing choice, and while even though the whole thing kind of seemed a bit muddled at first, this somehow worked for me. The combination of the toasted pumpkin, spices, and thicker malts gave this a pleasant harvest-time imbibing feel. I would have definitely have drank a few bombers of this last fall if it had been local to me.

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Photo of PhineasMcClintock
3/5  rDev -13.3%

Photo of mikesgroove
4.15/5  rDev +19.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I was able to grab my fair share of these from Joey recently. This is always a treat for me this time of year, as one of my favorite seasonal releases by far. Served this one chilled, and poured it into a tall pilsner glass. This was consumed on 11/17/2008.

The pour was very nice, with a deep, dark brown color coloring through right away. Very nice look to this one I have to admit, with a one inch high head of tan coming up over the top and settling down nicely with a good bit of side glass lacing. Solid.

The aroma was loaded down with caramel malts, and a good amount of roasted notes to it as well. Some light hints of chocolate rolling around in there as well as a nice touch of light spice. The flavor was more of the same. Classic Weizenbock here, with a deep malt profile, that was nicely accented by hints of light grain, chocolate and a touch of spice. Interesting mixture to say the least. Smooth and creamy, a very rich feel with a very solid carbonation profile. Smooth, and delightfully drinkable, I had no issue at all with getting this one down in no time.

Overall I thought this was an excellent seasonal from Alpine. Solid in every sense of the word with no real weakness so to speak. I would have no issue at all with this one should it come my way again.

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Photo of womencantsail
3.68/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Well, I bought this one thinking it was the Wild Ale. Oh well, it'll have to do...

A: Pours just about black with a small mocha colored foam.

S: There is only a slight pumpkin aroma, but lots of coffee and a mild spice character.

T: The pumpkin taste is a bit more pronounced than the aroma. A malty, wheat bready quality and sweetness. There is a subtle spiciness and a hint of vanilla.

M: There is moderate carbonation and a medium body.

D: I was pretty disappointed at my mistake, especially because Dunkels are not really my thing. The pumpkin flavor was mild, and I would have liked more, but still a decent beer.

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Photo of Wasatch
3.83/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks goes out to Bitterbill for this brew.

Pours a nice black color, nice carbonation, nice little fizzy tan head, with some sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, with some toffee/chocolate/coffee. The taste is sweet, malty, nice touch of dark stuff. Medium body. Drinkable, this is a tasty brew.

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Photo of Gobzilla
3.97/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: poured a dark brown in color with brown highlights and had a very thin bubbly head leaving a little lacing sticking to the glass.

S: all spice, cinnamon, and nutmef were pretty faint on the aroma with slight vinger tart notes and mild vinous notes.

T: the all spice, cinnamon, and nutmeg were more apparent on the palate with some tart qualities mild vinegar but a touch fo chocolate and brown sugar.

M: the brew was medium in body with a good amount of carbonation which had a sweet, spice, mild vinous, and tart finish.

D: drank real good and was definitely a cool take on a pumpkin style dunkelweizen.

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Photo of BARFLYB
3.68/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22oz 2008 dunkelweizen version into a pint glass. Thought this was the wild ale version, oh well.

A- Ichabod 08 pours dark with a fairly mostly brown color bordering on black depending how you look at it. A nice fizzy dark tan head that faded leaving minimal lace.

S- Fairly abundant on the spice factor with nutmeg clove and cinnamon. Getting some wheat scents as well as yeast. Some chocolate in the distance.

T- A robust dunkle with more porter notes with some roasted malts and some vreadiness. The spices are throughout with the ones mentioned above. This one is quite nutty with warming. Maybe some pumpkin, but i'm not getting alot.

M- This one goes down a bit above thin but is silky which is weird based on presentation. A good amount of carb for a dunkel. The spices stick around long after sipping. Nice carb.

D- At 5% quite sessionable but I preferred to share this as a whole bottle to the head would be muck. An interesting take on a dunkel but I won't be revisiting.

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Photo of jzeilinger
2.75/5  rDev -20.5%

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.6/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

2008 Release; Sampled November 2008
A fairly gentle pour into my 25cl tulip glass produces a three-finger thick, somewhat large bubbled, darkly browned head. The beer is almost black in color and doesn't pass any color when held up to the light, but does pick up a touch of amber color. The aroma smells of grassy grain, some clove, roasted grain, lots of toasted grain notes, and some light spice notes that add a perceived sweetness (cinnamon and a touch of nutmeg). I like that the spices are nice and soft here, this smells more like pumpkin pie (or something like that) than of any individual spice components.

Fairly dry tasting and it finishes with a significant toasted grain component as well as a touch of burnt grain that tends to get magnified as it lingers on in the palate. This is quite light bodied (at least for a holiday brew). There is a slight squash like note here that faintly contributes towards the middle here and the spices contribute a subdued, note towards the finish where the nutmeg seems to intermingle with the roast grain. This has a very subdued, to non-existent Weizen character; makes me wonder if a traditional Weizen yeast was used, if it was the roast grain pretty much over-powers most of the other flavors, including any Weizen notes. The roast character is nice though, not too overpowering and it has a nice mix of flavors with toasted, whole grain bread notes, a touch of roast coffee notes and a bit of burnt acidity in the finish. The dark grain character is definitely on the smooth side.

A tasty beer, but a bit of a disappointment; I would have loved to have seen either more of the traditional Weizen flavors here, or perhaps a richer beer with more pumpkin character (heck both might even have worked quite nicely). As it is this seems like a nice, quaffable, wheat-porter with a hint of spices.

Purchased: South Bay Drugs, Imperial Beach CA

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Photo of Halcyondays
3.15/5  rDev -9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

22 oz. bomber,

A: Pours brown with a full off-tan head, very good retention, light lacing, a nice looking pint.

S: Strong notes of spice, some pumpkin, sweet molasses, distinct coffee.

T: Taste is markedly different than the smell. Initially heavy nutmeg hits, I love nutmeg, but it was overpowering and out of balance with the rest of the flavours. Warming up it gets better and the flavours are nice, but not the pumpkin dunkelweizen I expected on the label. It tastes a lot more like a stout, the roasted notes are nice, but not what I was expecting, it doesn't have any of the yeast character of a dark weisse. Light pumpkin flesh and cinnamon in the aftertaste, but it is really a minor note.

M: Found it fizzy with too much carbonation, definitely needs a fuller body.

D: This beer has its good points, but for what I expected going in I didn't get. This is more of mix of a stout and winter warmer than a dunkelweisse. Worth a try, but with the high price tag, this'll be my last bomber.

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Photo of Bitterbill
3.97/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This pours a very dark brown, almost black. With a vigorous pour, I get about an inch of tan foam.
Head retention is poor and there's no lacing to speak of.

The smell has a niced holiday nose to it. I'm picking up nutmeg, pumpkin, and cinnamon and a light tartness. I don't know how that tartness will fit in with the taste but I'm about to find out. ;^)

The taste is full of caramel malt and the spices I mentioned with light notes of dark fruit and no sign of any tartness. Maybe a touch of chocolate in there as well and very light clove? Maybe, maybe not. The overall flavours are not big and bold by any means but they are nice.

The mouthfeel is medium, it's fairly lively in the carbonation department, and it finishes roasty with a light bitter bite.

Drinkability? The abv says it should be an easy drinker and it is. This is a well crafted brew.

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Photo of DefenCorps
3.95/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

22oz bottle received from seaoflament as an extra in a trade. Thanks, Carlos, I was waiting to buy this one. Into my Guinness pint glass. Given the nature of the beer, I'm reviewing this more as a pumpkin ale rather than a dunkelweizen.

A: For all intents and purposes, this one is black. Holding it against a strong light reveals nothing but hazy reddish brown highlights. A brown head rises and recedes quickly to a disk, leaving no lace, allowing me to fill my glass up again.

S: On the nose, this is pretty solid with cinnamon, nutmeg and pumpkin puree rounding out the back end. The clove notes are delicate and by being a yeast byproduct rather than an ingredient, it's different. This beer, more than any, smells like pumpkin bread instead of pumpkin pie, and that makes it more appealing in that I can see myself drinking a lot of this, just like I'd eat a lot more bread than pie (maybe). *As this warms up, there's a more pronounced creamy chocolate note

T: Interesting! This beer opens up with plenty of nutmeg and cinnamon along with pumpkin before a rather pronounced roasted wheat flavor. There's some chocolate in there too, behind the pumpkin and wheat and it all works together pretty darned well. On the finish, this beer dries up and bringing out some clove and nutmeg.

M: This is my only complaint with this beer - it's a little over-carbed IMO. While this level of carbonation would work with a traditional dunkelweizen, it's a little high for this beer. Otherwise, this beer is pretty good with a medium-light body and a pleasing finish *As I let this sit and it loses some carbonation, that complaint goes out of the window and I wish for a little more body. Oh well!

D: At 5%, this is something I could drink more of. I'm a fan

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Photo of TurdFurgison
2.64/5  rDev -23.7%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Thanks to mikesgroove for the bottle. This was a strange beer, I expected a dunkelweizen with pumpkin pie spices (from the label description), and although some change in character should be expected after 1 year of age this beer is missing all of those characteristics.

The beer is dark brown, opaque, with a think mocah colored foam. The smell is lacking any weizen aromas, mostly malty-bitter with a chocolate edge and a disturbing sour note in the background. I get no pumpkin whatever, but in its place a hint of cough syrup (maybe due to age). The taste is pretty much the same as the smell, sour notes take the lead with some bitterness and a little cocoa in the aftertaste. The body is OK but who cares, the flavors are too odd. This is one beer I won't try again, even as they change the base...

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Photo of gford217
3.51/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark, dark brown with hints of mahogany around the edges. The tan head is big and creamy and shows good retention and leaves decent lacing.

The aroma is pretty mellow and dominated by roasted malts, hints of pumpkin, and a little bit of spice thrown in.

The taste also has the toasted chocolate malts up front with only the faintest hint of pumpkin and spices. There's definitely a lighter bready character in the background that takes away from the heft. The aftertaste is light and dry.

The mouthfeel is light for the style and slightly watered down. The carbonation is fairly high but there's not enough body underneath to make it meaningful.

I was not too impressed with this one and was expecting something with a little more umph. For a low ABV beer, it's not that drinkable, like they were trying to make a big beer but left out the body. Interesting...

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Photo of prototypic
3.16/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Huge thanks to csmiley for splitting the bomber.

Ichabod's an interesting beer. I originally thought this was a pumpkin ale. A dunkelweizen, eh? Alright. Pours a dark mahogany brown color. It's very close to opaque. A hint of light cuts through giving it a slight garnet hue. It's topped off with a vanilla colored head that's about a finger or so deep. It was quick to recede and left light strands of lace lining the glass.

The nose continues its interesting trek. It starts out a little malty. There's a cocoa-ish aroma from chocolate malts. It doesn't exactly smell sweet. It comes across as slightly sour smelling. It's a little musky and a bit funky smelling. There's some light pumpkin. It's not very pronounced, but is noted. Pumpkin spices? I'm not getting that. Hops are noted and give it an earthy scent. Grains are noted throughout each whiff. Ichabod's not a bad smelling beer, but it's far from artful. The components don't seem to mesh well and are perceived as individual parts rather than a well orchestrated symphony.

The flavor profile is consistent with the nose. It kicks off with a little cocoa. There's some perceived chocolate, but no real sweetness. Ichabod is grainy and earthy throughout. It features an interesting musky flavor that's not altogether good. In terms of pumpkin, there's not a great deal. Perhaps a slight pumpkin flavor, rather than pumpkin spice. I'm not picking up any nutmeg or cinnamon. Interesting. There are some hops that give it a bit of a buzzy bite. They're very welcome here and definitely help. It finishes dry and a little bitter. Overall, the flavor's a bit disappointing. The bland pumpkin flavor...well....strike that. None of the flavors work very well together. It's honestly very jumbled and merely okay.

The body is medium and is smooth. Carbonation is dialed down pretty low. This is probably Ichabod's greatest asset. It does have a nice feel. Drinkability is average. The flavor's not working well for me. I'm glad I don't have the whole bomber to myself. It'd be a struggle.

Ichabod's disappointing. At least this 2008 release is disappointing. I had high hopes for this one and had looked forward to it for a long time. Unfortunately, the various scents and flavors do not work well together at all. It needs a good bit of work all around to improve. I'm guessing Alpine releases a different beer for this each year. That'd be a good thing in my book. If so, I'd be more than happy to give this one a go next year. As for this one, it's pretty forgettable.

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Photo of tpd975
3.17/5  rDev -8.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

This one came from Joey at Southbay. Been keeping it around for a bit.

A: Pours a flat dark blackish brown hue. Small fizzy head with no retention or lace.

S: Lots of real pumpkin meat, raw cacao nibs, and a blend of pie spice.

T: Rather sharp. Like taking a spoonful of real cocoa and nutmeg and putting it in your mouth. Hints of chocolate, ash, and earth as well. Pumpkin straight from the can is there but somewhat hidden beneath the sharp flavors. The more I drink the sharpness almost gets tin like.

M: Medium in body, light carbonation.

D: Okay, I put the whole bottle away. I know it was a totally different style, but I liked the first version better.

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Photo of hopdog
3.53/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle shared thanks to Josh.

Poured a dark black color with a small sized off white head. Aromas of roast, lightly earthy, some spices,a nd light pumpkins. Tastes of pumpkin seeds, chocoalte, caramel, and some spices. The pumpkin (both aromas and tastes) where on the softer and subtle side.

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Photo of msubulldog25
3.57/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A 22 oz. bottle acquired back around Thanksgiving; it's been chilling in the coldest part of the cellar for past two months. Opened last night and poured to a tall weizen glass.

The label admonishes: "Drink Alpine Ale or Go to Bed!". I chose the former...

A: Pours very dark, a brackish chocolate-brown. Shows traces of orange/auburn toward the edges, especially once the finger+ of khaki cream fades away (too quickly). A remaining gauzy film is pock-marked where carbonation rises. Slight ring of lace, nothing really sticks. A thin, orange/brown layer of silt coats the bottom of the bottle.

S: Good aroma of rich malt: several spices, cocoa powder, baked dark bread. A nice little smokiness (charcoal?) and some nutty smell, too. What was missing for me was the banana/clove esters that I expect from the style. Granted, the smell was really good/robust so my '4' grade is one I'll stick to.

T: Very dark, a muddled mix of dry/grainy huskiness and powdery/earthy spice. Bark-like nutmeg and a little chalky bitterness. On a couple sips, this tasted just like a piece of melba toast, dark and grainy. Another sip brought a light sour tang. Not unlikable, an interesting twist on a dunkelweizen, I guess...

M: Light/medium body with a moderate carbonation zest. Feel seems a little thin, and leaves a fine grit. Finishes dull and with a mineral/metallic bitterness.

D: Not bad to drink, no problem polishing off this 5% 'lightweight'. With a building carbonation, it was one of the more 'filling' beers I've had in a while. I wouldn't mind having this again, pairing with a meal next time. Unfortunately, this is a seasonal release so that chance seems unlikely.

Thanks, Kyle, for giving me a chance to try this one.

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Photo of Floydster
3.43/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

22 ounce bottle purchased from Red Carpet Wine in Glendale for $7.79, split with my dad yesterday, poured into my weizen glass

A-Pours a deep dark brown with some mahogany edges, 3/4 inch creamy beige head that stays around about ten minutes, nice retention, not much lacing
S-Pumpkin, cinnamon, nutmeg, milk chocolate, cream, wheat, brown sugar, yeast other spices, roasted malts, earthiness, toasted bread, bananas, and some anise
T-Taste is watered down and did not have enough malt backbone to really make it work, the pumpkin is not near as prominent as I hope for either, the aroma kind of fooled me on that end, starts off with some mild spciy and earthy accents, the middle has some breadier malt but not much, pumpkin is in the finish with roasted malts, some light chocolate comes to the surface later on along with the nutmeg that was also stronger in the smell, flavor was enjoyable but it was just lacking that extra push, way too light for its style
M-Mouthfeel was the weakest part of this brew, very light, slightly spicy, a bit roasty and smoky even at times, medium bodied, strong level of carbonation for its style, taste does not linger
D-Could drink a bomber and that would be about it, taste gets a little old, alcohol is low at five percent but seems higher at times from its taste, flavor can be heavy on the stomach

A Bavarian dunkelweizen with pumpkin sounds very interesting and this beer delivered that, it was not nearly as good as last year's wild pumpkin ale in my opinion though, although it seems to be selling just as well, I might drink this again but will not go out of my way, still worth trying

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Photo of brewandbbq
3.68/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

22oz bottle at 52 degrees, courtesy of SouthBay Drugs.

Pours dark mahogany with a slight haze. A one inch head of tan foam sunk to a solid skim coat and stuck for the duration. A few streaks and dots of lacework throughout the goblet.

Roasted malt, toasted pumpkin, cocoa, and spice lead off the nose. Hints of bannana, nutmeg, hazelnut coffee, and cinnamon follow through. Quite roasty with a decent balance of pumpkin and spice.

Medium bodied with an exceptionally creamy mouthfeel. Velvety and smooth.

Roasted barley, cocoa powder, and some light pumpkin start the palate. Bannana skins, cloves, coffee grounds, and toasted nuts step forward.

Finishes with a slight warmth, lingering cocoa, fading spice, and a hint of meaty pumpkin.

Tasty enough, but not really remarkable in any aspect. Nicely balanced and highly drinkable. Just a bit meek coming from Alpine.

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Photo of NickMunford
3.58/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A- Pours dark opaque brown with a small fizzy head which dissipates quickly. No lacing.

S- Malt, nutmeg and other spices. Light pumpkin spice aromas.

T- The flavors that come through when you smell it are the same ones there when you taste it. Has a bit of smokiness to it.

M- Feels a bit fizzy, but smooth in the mouth.

D- Easily drinkable. I could probably easily go through a couple of bombers in a night.

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Ichabod Ale 2008 from Alpine Beer Company
Beer rating: 30% out of 100 with 50 ratings
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