Keene Idea | Alpine Beer Company

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Alpine Beer Company
California, United States
alpinebeerco.com

Style: American Double / Imperial IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.88%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Formerly known as Toronado 25th.

Keene Idea is very different from Nelson. No rye, different grain bill, Citra and Rakau hops.

Added by HopHead84 on 08-11-2012

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#86
Reviews:
65
Ratings:
468
pDev:
8.3%
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Photo of jaydoc
4.48/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Texasfan549
4.5/5  rDev -1.7%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.29/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

On tap at the 2014 Firestone Walker Invitational Beer Fest held at the Paso Robles Event Center in Paso Robles, CA.

Pours a hazy orange with a foamy beige head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of malt, citrus zest, and herbal hop aromas. Taste is much the same with citrus zest and herbal hop flavors on the finish. There is a medium amount of hop bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a very good beer with great aromas and really tasty flavors.

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4.5/5  rDev -1.7%

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4.75/5  rDev +3.7%

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4.75/5  rDev +3.7%

Photo of oriolesfan4
4.18/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of kojevergas
4.06/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served on-draught into a pilsner glass at Alpine's pub in Alpine. Expectations were extremely high; I love Alpine. Reviewed from notes. I don't recall the cost. Whatever it was, it was worth it.

A: Pours a half finger head of off-white colour, somewhat thin but of fair cream. Retention is average. Body colour is a vibrant understated copper. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Sm: Citrus, floral hops, a hint of hop bitterness, some pine, and pale malts. Evocative and inviting.

T: Heavy hop flavours. Very balanced; no hop bitterness comes through at all. Oily hops. Grapefruit. Hints of pine. Biscuity floral hops - amarillo? Crisp citrus. Floral notes. Pale malts. Very complex; has real depth of flavour. Dank. Clean and very enjoyable. The balance is masterful. Still, it's not as complex or subtle as I remember Exponential Hoppiness being.

Mf: Perfect dryness and smoothness for the style, coaxing out the flavours. Ideal carbonation and thickness. Not as luscious as some other great beers in the style. Buttery on the finish. Refreshing and custom-tailored to the flavour profile.

Dr: Extremely drinkable for the style and well hidden ABV. I could down this one all night. Really tasty, but perhaps not Alpine's best IPA. Slides down real easy. I love it. Another home run IPA from Alpine.

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Photo of oline73
4.25/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

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4.75/5  rDev +3.7%

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4/5  rDev -12.7%

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4.75/5  rDev +3.7%

Photo of largadeer
5/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Too many pints consumed at Toronado SF during their anniversary.

Appearance: Pale clear gold with a thin but lasting head.

Smell: The nose on this stuff is massive, somehow even bigger than regular Nelson. An explosion of tropical fruit, gooseberry jam, white grape and orange. Floral, slightly oniony and catty. For a single hop beer, this has a lot of depth.

Palate: Floral and citrus hop flavors up front. Tropical fruit, gooseberry and orange, a touch of onion and white grape. Not much in the way of malt, and sweetness is very impressively reigned-in for such a big beer. Rye does come out a bit mid-palate, contributing an earthy twang that works nicely with the huge nelson hop flavor. The balance here is masterful, making this entirely too quaffable for how strong it is. There's no trace of alcohol, and bitterness is fairly mild in the finish.

Overall: This is every bit as good as I was expecting, and possibly Alpine's best beer to date, which is saying a lot.

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4.25/5  rDev -7.2%

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4.5/5  rDev -1.7%

Photo of Thorpe429
4.27/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Huge thanks to Mike T for sharing a growler of this at Dyan’s going away tasting. Served in a goblet. Pours a nice, clear orange color with a lasting white head. The nose has delicious resinous hops. A bit dank and heavy rind. A bit of malt and alcohol, but mostly all hops. Medium body. Quite bitter. Really an excellent double IPA and one I hope they make again...soon. At the same time, if you can’t get your hands on it, I honestly didn’t think it was THAT much different than super-fresh Nelson.

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4.63/5  rDev +1.1%

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4.28/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Photo of BEER88
4.5/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of duceswild
4.5/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

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4.65/5  rDev +1.5%

Photo of Alieniloquium
4.2/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

64 oz. growler poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Clear golden body. Nice white head. Some lacing and decent retention.

Smell - Strong Nelson hops. Orange and a hint of herbal character. Sweet pale malts.

Taste - Grapefruit, orange, a little tropical. That standard Nelson flavor. Pretty sweet. Mild bitterness, if any.

Mouthfeel - Medium carbonation. Maybe medium low. Medium heavy body.

Overall - I'd probably take regular Nelson over this, but it's really good.

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4.3/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Huge thanks to nugganooch for sending me a growler of this out; thanks Dane! Drank about 30 oz's of the growler, poured into a tulip.

a - Pours a somewhat clear amber-orange color with one inch of white head and moderate carbonation evident. Looks very nice.

s - Smells of citrus hops, pine hops, fruity malts, tropical fruits, pineapples, mango, bread, and light grapefruit. Nose is great, super hoppy and fruity, smells very fresh.

t - Tastes of citrus hops, grapefruit, light pine hops and resin, tropical fruits, pine apples, floral hops, earthy notes, yeast, bread, graham crackers, and lemon. More grapefruit in the taste.

m - Medium body and moderate carbonation. No bitterness and easy to drink.

o - Overall I have a little bit of mixed feeling on this one, but ultimately liked it quite a bit. At first I thought something seemed a little off in the taste from the growler...I had just drank Hill Farmstead's Citra pale ale, which I liked a lot and was very different, so that might be why. The more I drank it the more I liked it though, and we ended up finishing the growler off and liking it a lot...not sure if it grew on me because of my palate or what. Smells great the whole time and was easy to drink. I drank a very fresh bottle of Duet 2 days prior and think I liked Duet better, but this was still very good. Personally I find I like whatever Alpiine beer I can get freshest the most. Worth getting for sure and another hoppy winner for Alpine.

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4.5/5  rDev -1.7%

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Keene Idea from Alpine Beer Company
Beer rating: 4.58 out of 5 with 468 ratings