Troublesome | Off Color Brewing

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Off Color Brewing
Illinois, United States
offcolorbrewing.com

Style: Gose

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 4.30%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Most brewers spend a lot of time and effort keeping lactobacillus out of their breweries; it was the first thing we brought in (it still has to stay in the corner though). We blend together two different beers to make Troublesome. The first is a somewhat uninteresting wheat beer and the second is an overly acidic & funky beer fermented solely with lactobacillus. We blend the two beers together with coriander and salt at the tail end of fermentation to create a mild, lemony tartness and a fuller sensation of mouthfeel. And yes, it's hard to make.

10 IBU

Added by MasterSki on 06-17-2013

BEER STATS
Reviews:
160
Ratings:
1,015
Avg:
3.82
pDev:
12.3%
 
 
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Photo of ta_hagen
5/5  rDev +30.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Great Gose, first one and best one so far. It's has no acidity, light bready/wheat grain character. Slight hints of coriander and sea salt. Yummy in my tummy. It has a light body, and a dissipating finish. For sure to grab more!

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Photo of stace
4.8/5  rDev +25.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

I'll update this review once I've had more, these are my initial impressions...

Appearance: slightly cloudy, good head retention. Light straw color.

Smell: Hints of the sour/tartness to come in the taste.

Taste: Just the right mix of tartness and salt. When you're unfamiliar with the style, those words can sound odd, but it really works and this is a great example of the style.

Mouthfeel: Just right. Not to fizzy, very true to style.

Overall: Very impressed with this beer. Very true to style, just the right amount of tart and saltiness. A very refreshing beer on a hot summer day to be sure. Can't wait to have more.

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Photo of MV_CHI-NS
4.78/5  rDev +25.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

Appearance: Straw/deep citrine body with a crisp snow/ivory head.

Aroma: Very 'bready' with undercurrents of grain and light spice.

Taste: Spice, grass, anise, coriander, and lemon zest - all carried-through by a bready backbone.

Mouthfeel: Crisp and clean with a fair amount of carbonation; feels a bit flat as it goes down, however.

Overall: My first beer in the 'Gose' style, 'Troublesome' did not disappoint; a friend of mine assured me it was one of the best - particularly for summer. With that said, find some shade and try this - it will surely not disappoint.

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Photo of Frazz
4.71/5  rDev +23.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

This beer is what turned me on to goses and sours in general, so I have a very special place in my heart for it. Funky, sour, salty, spicy -- it has a little bit of everything flavor-wise. The color is nice and bright golden and the aroma is sweet and sour, a hint of what's to come. Of all of the goses I've had, this one is still my old standby. You can't go wrong with a Troublesome.

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Photo of MartinGood
4.55/5  rDev +19.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Loved the tart, fruity flavors and lighter body. The coriander notes went perfectly with the Jamaican Lamb Curry I for dinner. Good fall beer, nice alternative to all the pumpkin ( I like that too) out there.

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Photo of ocelot2500
4.5/5  rDev +17.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a hazy golden color with a soapy white head that leaves little bits of lacing.

Smells of wheat, coriander, and earthy notes.

Tastes of the sharp wheat notes layered with some salt and spice. Wheat notes lead off. This gives way to some fruity lemon and berry notes. Tart notes come through in the middle before a bit of bready malt. Coriander spice, salt, and earthy hops come towards the end. Finishes fairly dry with a salty linger.

Mouthfeel is medium-light with a crisp amount of carbonation.

Overall, this is a tasty, well-balanced Gose.

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Photo of ghirsh
4.42/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Amazing beer. The best part is that it definitely grows on you. It gets better with every sit. I'm new to the sour world, and this one is pretty mellow.

A: Somewhat cloudy from the yeast. Strong yellow color.
S: Bananas, cloves, and a bit of salt
T: AMAZING! Bananas and cloves like a hefeweizen, but not quite as intense. A hint of salt towards the finish. A tiny bit sour, but not too much.
M: Feels a bit crisp, but also bubbly from the carbonation. Interesting blend of mouthfeel, but it's pretty good.
O: Great beer. There are a lot of spot-on qualities. I'll be buying anything I can find in the store from Off Color.

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Photo of Barnoloid
4.4/5  rDev +15.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

I’m still relatively new to enjoying Gose style beers, but I feel this is a solid representation of this most interesting brew. There is a sourness and funkiness at play here with a citric and salty feel. Enjoyable and thought provoking.

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Photo of Jmamay22
4.4/5  rDev +15.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.25

The beer pours a hazy pale gold with a white head than holds up rather well for the style. Nice lacing on the glass too. Smells of lemon zest, white pepper, hay, and wheat. Maybe even the impression of lime as well.

The taste is an extremely well balance of tart lactic acid, lemon and hay like earthiness. The mouthfeel is fuller than the average gose. This greatly improves the impression of the beer as being less seltzer like and rounds out the drinking experience improving on the flavor. Despite the fuller feel it still remains nimble on the palatte and cleans up with a nice dry tart finish. One of the best example of the style I've ever had the chance to enjoy.

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Photo of emerge077
4.39/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

2014-15
Troublesome is a great base for making beer cocktails. So far, memorable blends have been guanabana, lemon, and passionfruit. Give it a whirl!

8-8-13
Had this again today, two glasses. It was more sour than the first batch, maybe more of the lacto in the mix. Almost citrusy and very juicy, even had a slight tang in the aroma. Everybody ordered one after trying a sip, could drink this all night...upping S/T/M scores. Timeless simplicity, though plenty of nuance also.

06-27-2013
Draft pint at Map Room.

Pale straw color, slight haze with a sturdy lasting head of white foam on top. Some slowly rising carb trails visible, copious lacing that leaves a drippy intricate pattern in the glass.

Coriander steals the show aroma-wise, it's the main component, with some light mellow wheatiness in the periphery.

Snappy and crisp, it has a zippy tartness that is extra quenching. Smooth feel, light bodied, notes of coriander and wheat linger in the dry aftertaste. Brisk carbonation scrubs the palate, making this both a summer refresher and excellent palate cleanser when pairing with food. The clean tartness is pleasant and balanced, not extreme. The low abv lends itself extremely well to sessioning. Definitely will be a go-to session beer once it hits shelves in six-packs later this year.

Note: Six packs are $9.99-10.99 in Chicago, if you're paying more you have your local distributor/retailer to thank.

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Photo of Nachojon
4.36/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

No idea how this beer doesn't have higher ratings here. Exceptional in every way. I feel like reviewers here need to take some time to rate to style and to try to really appreciate the intricacies in a beer. The crispness, the mellow tart, the way the carbonation perfectly enhances the salt.

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Photo of drpimento
4.36/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Very good beer. Appearance is traditional with a smallish off-white head that soon settles and a hazy yellow color. Aroma is grain and yeast. On my first sip I got wheat, grain, a little tart & coriander, but no salt. Second sip got all of that but then got a little salt too. Body is just right. Very nice drinking beer. Wouldn't mind another.

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Photo of MUTINY
4.3/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Literally just opened the bottle, poured into a wine tumbler.

A: Straw-hued with no real cloudiness. Nice off-white head dissipates fast. Lacing is ok, although the glassware may be affecting that somewhat.

S: A bit of lacto-funk, citrus & brine. Mellow malt grain notes.

T: Sweet & tart. Comes on lemony & leaves with a lingering dry brininess (which is nice). Definitely more lightly tart than truly sour. Could use a bit more aggressive salt on the finish, at least to my palate.

M: Surprisingly substantial. Carb balances nicely against the somewhat heavier-than-expected body. Don't get me wrong, it's not exactly dense, just fuller than the appearance suggests.

O: I tend to like the saltier versions of this style, but this guy delivers a lot of goodness in a balanced package. Darn good, refreshing, a crushable sipper.

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Photo of Allenjoseph5
4.3/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle split between two shaker pint glasses.

L- ok. This was a little weird. This beer exploded into a foamy disaster as soon as it hit the glass. That's why I had to split it between two glasses. Even then, it took a while to let the head settle enough to empty the bottle. When it settles, it has a light straw color with a luxorius white head. Nice lacing and head retention for the whole beer, especially for drinking out of a shaker pint. Lots of sediment on the bottom of the glass.

S- Lemon meringue pie

T- lemon upfront with just the right amount of saltine cracker notes, imo. Finishes slightly sweet.

F- medium bodied. Definitely on the heavier side for a gose, but the description says that was intentional, and I'm into it. Still very refreshing.

O- I'm loving this beer. I think I might have gotten a weird batch, due to the crazy amount of head that formed right away and the sediment (more sediment than what could be considered intentional). Even with that, I'm thoroughly enjoying this beer. This will be a repeat buy for me.

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Photo of BeerFMAndy
4.29/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

12 oz bottle poured into a tulip.
4.3% ABV, 13°P, 10 IBUs

A - The hazy pale straw yellow beer struggles to retain it's fluffy white head beyond the halo of loose bubbles it disintegrates but it comes as no surprise with lactobacillus, a souring agent, at the helm.

S - The "secret ingredient", coriander, along with salty notes, gives the nose a nice spicy bite but doesn't draw as much attention as it's other "secret" friend, Lactobacillus; the reason for the slightly funky and deliciously tart aroma. Soft wheat and simple pale malt comprise a gentle base for the unique funk to spring off of.

T - Almost like a slightly soured witbier, Troublesome has a prolific, tasty wheat profile with delicate coriander spice, which imparts a touch of lemony citrus, and slight saltiness on the finish.

M - Carbonation dances on the tongue but this wheat beer is incredibly smooth with delicate tartness that's overcome by gentle lingering saltiness and coriander spice for a refreshing, thirst-quenching finish.

O - If it weren't for the tart and acidic addition of lactobacillus, Troublesome would be very witbier-esque as it's bountiful with soft wheat and coriander spice but this German-style Gose makes for an incredibly easy drinking, crisp and refreshing brew!

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Photo of telescifly
4.29/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Looks good, but like nothing special out of the bottle, and it smells exceptionally sour and a little funky - intentional indeed, but that doesn't make it any less off-putting. However, the taste is intriguing and sublime. Tart, salty, lemony, bread-like, just hinting at coriander towards the end, and lingering with a satisfying fruitiness; never has a first sip been so fascinating and surprising. The mouthfeel is a foamy and light, but just (barely) full enough to stand up to the complex palate. To be honest, I wanted to dislike this beer, or a at least find it to be average, since the bottle and the branding feel a little odd and more than a little pretentious. And while it's not a smeller, it's one of the better tasting bottles I've had this year.

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Photo of SammyJaxxxx
4.28/5  rDev +12%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 12 Oz bottle with a great label. (am I allowed to figure the label into my rating for appearance? )

A: Fantastic golden hue nice fluffy head that dissipates pretty quickly and leaves decent lacing. And the label has a mouse in a raccoon suit
s: Corriander, a little sour and bananas
T: a nice combination of slight sour spices malts but where is the salt?
MF: Crisp and clean
O: First sniff was great and I originally a little disappointed with the taste. As it warmed it improved and I was quite impressed. It is a Gose and I an still looking for some salt though. Oh yeah and a great label.

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Photo of hopsputin
4.26/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

a: very hazy light yellow in color. very bright. 1/2 finger white head that fades to just some lacing

s: wheat aroma hits you right away. some big malt and berry sweetness that you get in some weizens. more wheat and a bunch of coriander, and a hint of cardamom. slightly like apple juice

t: this is my first Gose, and its quite an interesting brew. wheat and coriander upfront. that fades into some sweet malts and berries. this is then balanced out by the salt. its so interesting the salt incorporated in here. its not 'salty' but you do get a little bit of sharpness from it which makes it extremely refreshing

m: despite the lack of head here, its pretty highly carbonated. a nice amount to help the sweetness and salt sharpness pop

o: like this much more than i thought i would, not being a salt person. its extremely tasty, and super refreshing - but doesn't have any overpowering flavors. nicely harmonized

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Photo of ZoomanCru
4.26/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Troublesome – Spiced Wheat Beer (4.3%) - Off Color Brewing (Illinois)
☆☆☆☆½

App: Solid golden pour with slight greenish hues to the extremities of the glass. Head is very thin. Weak ring of bubbles clings to the edge. No lacing at all.

Smell: Aroma is bright, grainy, and slightly sour with some strong aroma of lemon and a slight pepper like characteristic. Definitely got that sour twinge high in the nose.

Taste: Taste is bright, with a cider like acetic quality that shines through. Coriander lends a slight spiciness which compliments the semi-dry finish very nicely. Almost akin in acidity to white grape juice, with a similar puckering quality. The thing that makes this beer great is the finale. After the initial hints of white pepper, lemon and grainy sweetness, the hops bitterness appears and mingles with a lacto sourness long after the swallow. This might be the ultimate porch on a hot summer afternoon beer. Top notch.

Mouth: Medium bodied but slightly slick. Slightly dry and spicy in the aftertaste. Carbonation is overall very low, but this brew never feels oily or like it's sticking to your tongue.

Home tasting, 12oz bottle into Snifter. 4/9/14.

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Photo of Trevor11
4.25/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A solid beer that reminds me of Goose Island's Sofie or Allagash white in some regards. It is a hazy yellow with decent head and some lacing. Has a lemony, citrus overtones and with a little zing/tang at the endnotes. This is an enjoyable beer, but doesn't really blow your hair back

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Photo of thepenguin
4.23/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

L: Pours a clear pale yellow-gold with better foam retention than most kettle sours.

S: Moderate tartness and salinity, with coriander and yeast notes. Dry bready pilsner malt and wheat.

T: Crisp German pilsner malt with some wheat character. Barely perceptible tartness, with a nice moderate saltiness that cuts through and adds drinkability. Hints of lemons, with a short, crisp, mildly bready finish

F: Just under medium bodied with a slight chewiness, and ample carbonation with small bubbles. Fuller feel than most goses, though hardly detracting from the drinkability.

Thoughts: This is not an in-your-face gose; it’s subtle and very balanced. In many ways, it registers more like a Kolsch than a gose with its clean finish and pronounced pilsner malt character.

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Photo of sweemzander
4.19/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

12oz. bottle poured into a tulip.

(A)- Pours a clear pale yellow color. Some decent white froth that dissipated quickly.

(S)- A light honey wheat grain and lemon peel aroma. A very slight spiciness at the end. Hints of underlying tartness.

(T)- Pretty much just like the smell. It has a lightness to it with a honey wheat like grainy yeast meets subtle salty spiced lemon rind. Ever so slight tartness to it.

(M)- A great balanced carbonation level and feel overall. Definitely light and a crisp easy drinking character. As it warmed, the salty spice becomes more prevalent.

(O)- Gose is still a bit new to me only having tried a few of them, but this is really enjoyable and best consumed colder than room temperature.

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Photo of ONovoMexicano
4.18/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Served in a snifter from a 12 ounce bottle.

Two fingers of thick pale head form over the body. Chewy and foamy. The body is cloudy and pale golden in color. 4.5

Big notes of coriander, wheat, light lemon and a touch of salt. Faintly sweet. 4.5

Sweet wheat and coriander are dominant, but light salt and faint tartness round out the flavor. 4

Very enjoyable to drink. Mostly sweet, but not cloying, with a touch of spice feel. Tartness is faint but provides a good balance towards the finish. Salt dries the beer out a bit. 4.25

This is enjoyable to drink. Sweet witbier with a touch of salt and tartness. If you like your gose closer to a sour, this may not do it for you, but it's a good brew.

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Photo of mtomlins
4.18/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Big thanks to UncleJazz for the bottle.

Pours a hay color, hazy with a short fizzy head with limited retention but with a bit of lacing. Nice wheat, spice, coriander nose. The taste is light wheat, spice, mild sour notes, briney not salty, coriander and some sweet malt. The mouthfeel is nice and light with lively carbonation and clean, crisp finish. This is a really nice version of the style and unsure why it's not rated higher.

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Photo of Etan
4.18/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

On tap at the open house.

A: Pours a slightly hazed mellow straw color with a nice white head.

S: Big lactic note in the aroma. Yogurty, a hint of pleasant acid, mild bready aroma behind.

T: Taste is a bit more complex. Cakey wheat malt, a bit of witbier-like spice (cloves, coriander), ever-so-mild lactic tartness.

M: Light-bodied with active yet smooth carbonation.

O: Definitely my favorite beer of the night. A bit of sweetness mixed with the mild tartness makes this interesting, yet it remains drinkable and moreish. Looking forward to this in distributed format.

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Troublesome from Off Color Brewing
3.82 out of 5 based on 1,015 ratings.
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