Troublesome | Off Color Brewing

BA SCORE
86
very good
1,038 Ratings
TroublesomeTroublesome
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Off Color Brewing
Illinois, United States
offcolorbrewing.com

Style: Gose

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 4.30%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
Most brewers spend a lot of time and effort keeping lactobacillus out of their breweries; it was the first thing we brought in (it still has to stay in the corner though). We blend together two different beers to make Troublesome. The first is a somewhat uninteresting wheat beer and the second is an overly acidic & funky beer fermented solely with lactobacillus. We blend the two beers together with coriander and salt at the tail end of fermentation to create a mild, lemony tartness and a fuller sensation of mouthfeel. And yes, it's hard to make.

10 IBU

Added by MasterSki on 06-17-2013

BEER STATS
Ratings:
1,038
Reviews:
165
Avg:
3.82
pDev:
12.3%
 
 
Wants:
55
Gots:
174
For Trade:
4
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3.75/5  rDev -1.8%

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3.75/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

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3.76/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Pours a murky light yellow-orange with a foamy bone head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Tiny dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is slightly sour with malt, wheat, lemon, and coriander aromas. Taste is much the same with slightly sour wheat, lemon, and spice flavors on the finish. There is a very mild amount of acidity on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer that is tasty and fairly light and refreshing.

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3.74/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

beautiful packaging here, and we need more six packs of gose, regardless of their price (this one was a bit absurd). the beer is bright blonde yellow, with very little cloudiness and a short lived half inch of white airy bubbles. it smells less like coriander and more like a short lacto fermentation, tart, but not real dry. the wheat malt is also hopelessly plain, not bready, not fresh or seasonally interesting, but generic and unremarkable in aroma and in flavor. fortunately, there is enough else going on in this one. the corriander is more like seed than fresh herb, toasty and clean, not perfumy or overdone in any way. the salt adds more body and minerality than flavor, but its presence is there throughout. strange yeast in the finish, not as tart as it could be, with some sweetness left over. light alcohol makes it real easy drinking, but more robust carbonation and a dryer finish could really push it to the next level. an enjoyable and sessionable gose in a format i appreciate, but this prices me out a bit, and frankly isnt any better than most other american made goses out there.

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3.25/5  rDev -14.9%

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3.87/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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3.72/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A: The beer is hazy light yellow in color. It poured with a short white head that quickly died down, leaving wispy lacing consistently covering the surface.
S: Light to moderate aromas of lemons and coriander are present in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has flavors of lemons and spices along with hints of salt in the finish.
M: It feels light-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is very easy to drink and has some refreshing properties; however the salt is only noticeable in the finish.

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4.08/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Troublesome in that wheat beers want to be "Wheat", and that sour beers want to be "Sour", and that spiced beers want to be "Spiced". But it doesn't come so easily as this revisit to a historic style of beer might seem avant garde to the uninitiated imbiber, but to those in the know of Gose understands its spicy, wheaty and sour ways.

With the delivery of the pour, its hazy canary-yellow glows with supple diffusion as light captures hues of gold and straw. Shedding a creamy sheet of foam, the ale trails with dissected necklaces of lace.

Its tangy, citrusy and bready aromas come with notions of sea brine, cork-like must and sweat. Enticing with an earthen scent of weathered woods, perhaps of attic and basement- a scent of dried lime, lemon and orange peels all float above a taste of sugar and shortcake to suggest the scent of "warheads" candy.

Its taste is much more firmly rooted in ale character as its sweetness is of light bread, sugar cookie and confectioners sweetness. But that lavish party is cut short as the middle opens with citursy tartness, fading bread, and a nod to iron and plaster in its tangy finish.

Semi-dry in its mouthfeel, its early creaminess is bready, lofty and lightened. But as the bubbles dissolve on the palate, a dry tartness takes hold- leading to slight warmth, acidic twang and soft powdery astringency.

Off Color's revival of Gose is a discovery of taste and the mind and the palate is transported to a time that's perhaps unimaginable. Yet this beer exists in all its wheaty, sour and minerally demeanor!

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3.77/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

12 fl oz brown glass bottle with fantastic label art and a polished glossy style label as well a an unbranded silver pry-off pressure cap acquired from the very generous Duff27 in one of our many trades and served into a New Belgium tulip in me gaff in low altitude Austin, Texas. Reviewed live. Expectations are high given Duff27's implicit recommendation. The brewery's website calls this a "Blended wheat beer" but does note that lactobacillus and salt are used, so I can see why some would call it a gose. I'm reviewing it as a blended wheat beer, but I'll consider its merits as a gose as well.

Served cold - at fridge temp. Side-poured with standard vigor as no carbonation issues are anticipated.

A: No bubble show forms as it's poured.

Pours a one finger wide head of white colour. Decent creaminess and thickness. Fair frothiness. Head retention is average - about 2 minutes. Even when I tilt the glass, I can't get any lacing to stick to its sides.

Body colour is a clear translucent yellow of above average vibrance. Appears adequately carbonated. Good clarity. Clean looking; there's no visible hop sediment or yeast particles.

Overall, it's a good looking wheat beer - though it does appear filtered, which I didn't anticipate. It's far from unique or special, but there are no obvious flaws and it's looking pretty good in a general sense. I'm excited for the first sip.

Sm: Wisps of lemon zest and lemongrass. It's quite grassy, indeed. Floral hop character. Crisp full wheat. Clean barley. Munich malts. Honey. Some fruity tartness. Cream. Pilsner malts.

Looking at the label, I notice oats are listed as an ingredient; I didn't pick them up blind, but I do now that I'm prompted. I'll say the same about the coriander; it's not real prominent.

The lactobacillus bacteria is very subtle, but well integrated, lending the aroma a clean funkiness. That said, it does have a very sterile clinical feel; this isn't the complex bacterial aroma of truly spontaneously fermented beer like a traditional lambic.

This is one hell of a fresh flaked wheat aroma. Some hints of cereals and grains -dareisay even maize - complement the flaked wheat nicely.

The sweetness/tartness/bitterness balance seems near ideal. The more I smell this, the more I find it appealing. It's a soft perfumey pleasant aroma of average strength.

I don't detect any salt, alcohol, overt yeast, or any off-notes.

T: Wow. The core of the beer is a wonderful flaked wheat foundation, which is supported well by hints of cereals as well as clean barley, pilsner malts, more wheat still, and a dash of munich malts. Maybe even some faint honey? It's got a nice sweetness to it without pushing it too far. It's certainly fruity, which I think is a mixture of the hop profile and the tartness of the lactobacillus bacteria. I get lemongrass, hints of lemon zest, and some other less distinct tart fruits. In any case, the subtlety of the lactobacillus is fantastic. Just a bit of clean funkiness, but nothing too substantial.

As much as I search, I don't pick up on any salt, coriander, or even oats.

Overall, this beer has a lovely balance and almost a gestalt build. It's certainly cohesive and boasts some impressive amplitude and layering of flavours. This flavour profile offers subtlety and nuance rare in a wheat beer. It could be more intricate and complex, but that might ruin what's working - the artful simplicity and elegant balance. Above average depth and duration of flavour. Average intensity of flavour.

No yeast character, alcohol, or off-flavours come through.

I really like this. I just hope no one is walking into this expecting a sour beer or a true gose.

Mf: Crisp, clean, smooth, wet, refreshing, and soft. An approachable and enjoyable texture befitting the flavour profile of this tasty wheat beer. Complements the flavour profile nicely, with a good presence and weight on the palate. Thickness and body are both aptly moderate. Hides its ABV well. The lactobacillus lends it a light smackiness which is a lovely touch.

Not oily, gushed, hot, boozy, astringent, or harsh.

Dr: This is a surprisingly enjoyable wheat beer with plenty of flavour and ample nuance. Its artful balance and effortless drinkability will impress the most discerning of drinkers. I'd absolutely recommend it to friends, and if I could snatch it up by the 6 pack at my local shop, I imagine I'd be doing so on a regular basis. I already want another. This is almost the kind of quality wheat beer I'd expect from a brewery like New Glarus. Shockingly tasty.

I hadn't heard of Off Color brewing before, but they immediately have my attention.

Low B+

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4.39/5  rDev +14.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

2014-15
Troublesome is a great base for making beer cocktails. So far, memorable blends have been guanabana, lemon, and passionfruit. Give it a whirl!

8-8-13
Had this again today, two glasses. It was more sour than the first batch, maybe more of the lacto in the mix. Almost citrusy and very juicy, even had a slight tang in the aroma. Everybody ordered one after trying a sip, could drink this all night...upping S/T/M scores. Timeless simplicity, though plenty of nuance also.

06-27-2013
Draft pint at Map Room.

Pale straw color, slight haze with a sturdy lasting head of white foam on top. Some slowly rising carb trails visible, copious lacing that leaves a drippy intricate pattern in the glass.

Coriander steals the show aroma-wise, it's the main component, with some light mellow wheatiness in the periphery.

Snappy and crisp, it has a zippy tartness that is extra quenching. Smooth feel, light bodied, notes of coriander and wheat linger in the dry aftertaste. Brisk carbonation scrubs the palate, making this both a summer refresher and excellent palate cleanser when pairing with food. The clean tartness is pleasant and balanced, not extreme. The low abv lends itself extremely well to sessioning. Definitely will be a go-to session beer once it hits shelves in six-packs later this year.

Note: Six packs are $9.99-10.99 in Chicago, if you're paying more you have your local distributor/retailer to thank.

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3.5/5  rDev -8.4%

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3.75/5  rDev -1.8%

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3.75/5  rDev -1.8%

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3.75/5  rDev -1.8%

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3.8/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 ounce bottle into tulip glass, no bottle dating. Pours slightly hazy golden straw color with a 1-2 finger dense and fluffy white head with great retention, that reduces to a small cap that lingers. Nice spotty soapy lacing clings around the glass, with some light streaming carbonation. Aromas of big tart lemon, lime, green apple, white grape, coriander, sea salt, wheat, cracker, bread, herbal, straw, grass, light pepper, and herbal/yeast earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of fruity/earthy yeast, salt/spice, and pale malt notes; with good strength. Taste of lightly tart lemon, lime, green apple, white grape, coriander, sea salt, wheat, cracker, bread, herbal, straw, grass, light pepper, and herbal/yeast earthiness. Slight fruity tartness on the finish; with lingering notes of lemon, lime, green apple, white grape, coriander, sea salt, wheat, cracker, bread, light pepper, and herbal/yeast earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Good balance and complexity of fruity/earthy yeast, salt/spice, and pale malt flavors; with a good malt/tartness balance and zero cloying flavors after the finish. Medium carbonation and light-medium bodied; with a very smooth, crisp, and lightly saline/bready mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is well hidden with zero warming present after the finish as expected of 4.3%. Overall this is a very good Gose style. All around good robustness, balance, and complexity of fruity/earthy yeast, salt/spice, and pale malt flavors; and very smooth and crisp to drink. It was not as tart as I was hoping for, but the flavors were very well balanced. A nicely enjoyable offering.

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Troublesome from Off Color Brewing
3.82 out of 5 based on 1,038 ratings.
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