Collective Project: Sour Pumpkin Saison | Collective Arts Brewing

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3.66/5
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Collective Project: Sour Pumpkin SaisonCollective Project: Sour Pumpkin Saison
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Brewed by:
Collective Arts Brewing
Ontario, Canada
collectiveartsbrewing.com

Style: Belgian Saison

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.00%

Availability: Year-round

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Added by mrcasual on 09-20-2016

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Ranking:
#29,597
Reviews:
9
Ratings:
30
pDev:
14.75%
 
 
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Ratings: 30 |  Reviews: 9
Reviews by CAMRAhardliner:
Photo of CAMRAhardliner
3.75/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours hazy straw with a shortlived head that doesn't muster up much lace. The aroma is lemony tartness with pumpkin pie spices and a bit of vinegar. The taste is moderately sour with allspice and ginger in the forefront. Allspice and cookie dough maltiness in the back. Light herbal hoppiness in there too. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with a sparse, prickly carbonation. The finish is dry and tart with lingering pumpkin pie spices.

An interesting sour beer. Not as heavy handed with the pumpkin pie flavors as I expected, with quite a bit of ginger presence. Very interesting and worth a try. Any kind of spiced beers aren't my thing though.

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More User Reviews:
Photo of talbotjf99
3.11/5  rDev -15%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Photo of biboergosum
3.3/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

473ml can - so, now it's come to this - a 'sour' seasonal pumpkin, Imma gonna say 'ale'?

This beer pours a glassy, medium golden yellow colour, with three fat-ass fingers of puffy, finely foamy, and somewhat fizzy off-white head, which leaves a bit of hovering invading alien spaceship lace around the glass as it genially recedes.

It smells of yer typical pumpkin spiced ale - cloves, ginger, white pepper, cinnamon, and nutmeg - all over a wan, weirdly yeast-infected pale and wheaten maltiness - sure. The taste is the same season-friendly pumpkin ale, blended with the trendy kettle sours of the day - milky astringencies, generic sweetness, and little more, which seems to be an ongoing theme so far here.

The carbonation is fairly active in its typical walk through the park frothiness, the body a so-so middleweight, and sort of smooth, I suppose, as the supposed sourness doesn't possess the cojones to mess about here. It finishes trending dry, the pumpkin character trying desperately to get out of its contract, as the sour bullshit takes pride in its ascendance.

Overall - Christ on a crutch, what a dumb idea - like these two fringe brewing concepts have any need to be mashed together, as such. Both are taken down a peg or so in the process, which leaves me, the drinker, wondering what the hell were they thinking?

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Photo of bryanzk
4/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Phyl21ca
1.55/5  rDev -57.7%
look: 2.25 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 1.25 | feel: 1.25 | overall: 1.25

Can: Poured alight hazy amber color ale with a large foamy head. Aroma of tart notes with some cinnamon and nutmeg. Taste is a mix of citrus tart notes with some cinnamon and nutmeg with a thin finish. Body is light with OK carbonation. Quite a bad mix from a usually very solid brewery.

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Photo of patre_tim
4.26/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Golden orange with large and small bubbles, a slight haze and a finger of white head.

Smells of pumpkin, vinegar, and Belgian yeasts.

Sour, then pumpkin, then a hint of Belgian yeasts.

Light body, dry and crisp with soda like carbonation.

Got in Belleville, ON, just under a month ago on my way from Montreal to Kitchener. My Bro had one under autumn leaves on a park bench near Cambridge, ON at night a couple weeks later, and now I am having mine in Chiang Mai, Thailand. Really good brew. Love that it really is sour, not just paying homage to an ideal and definitely has pumpkin taste in it as well.

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Photo of spinrsx
3.5/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Can from the lcbo for around $3.25. Interesting.

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Photo of RedAleMan
3.41/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of thehyperduck
3.79/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

473 mL can from the LCBO; dated Sept 16 2016 and served slightly chilled. This is going to be a challenging beer to grade... because while calling it a 'saison' is technically correct, it's also simultaneously a pumpkin ale, a spiced beer and a wild ale.

Pours a hazy golden-orange colour, fitted with one finger of loose, foamy white head that quickly vanishes; a bubbly collar of froth remains behind, with no cap and minimal lace. Gourdy pumpkin and allspice on the nose, with lesser hints of nutmeg, cinnamon, clove and pale wheat malts. Some lactic acidity and caramelized sugar is also noticeable, but for the most part it's the typical "pumpkin spice beer" tropes that permeate this brew's aroma.

A weird beer; I don't find it particularly sour, or objectionable, but it's still one of those beers that leaves me sitting on the fence after a few sips. The base flavour is a sort of gritty, grainy, wheaty pale malt flavour - very subtle, and frankly not much to work with, which means that the adjuncts (and lacto) are what characterize the beer's flavour profile. Lactic acid sourness is persistent, but restrained and proportional to the flavours of pumpkin and spice that intermingle with it throughout the back end. I'm getting a good mix of allspice, ginger and nutmeg; the clove and cinnamon notes are more subdued. Surprisingly clean finish with a hint of damp cardboard. Fairly light in body, with a good kick from the carbonation, like I've come to expect from a saison - it feels crisp and lively in the mouth, and quite refreshing.

Final Grade: 3.79, a B+. Collective Arts' Sour Pumpkin Saison aimed pretty high, but I'm not sure they hit the mark with total precision - this is one of those beers that can't really be graded "to style", so I can only really ask myself "did this beer meet my expectations?" And by that metric, honestly, I was expecting a bit more - more malt, more pumpkin, more sour, and maybe even a bit more spice. On the positive side, this is not a technically flawed beer - there's just a lot going on, and I don't find all of the interacting elements to be all that complementary. This is a good beer that I am enjoying, and will probably buy again if they make it next year.

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Photo of SSS
4.25/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A-Hazy yellow with head that disappears very quickly
S-Musty notes of acid and must. Feint cinnamon and nutmeg aroma
M-Light to medium mouthfeel with heavy carbonation
T-Peppery on the tongue with a puckering sour and acidic follow-up
O-Perhaps I was in the mood for something different and this beer delivered. Quite obtuse and upfront with acidic sour and a spicy pepper sizzle

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Photo of byronic
3.34/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of Jotora
3.75/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of taxandbeerguy
3.59/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

473 ml can purchased and served fairly cold into a pint glass. Cost was approximately $3.50 from the LCBO. Canned October 7, 2016.

Appearance - slightly hazy golden color with light carbonation. A small half finger of head is poured and doesn't last long.

Smell - some light pumpkin aroma with a candi sugar sweetness. Plenty of yeast and a creamy wheat like smell too. Spicy cinnamon and nutmeg start showing up more as the beer warms

Taste - well this is different. Starts with a course grainy flavor and plenty of candi sweetness. Some yeast too. Then a healthy dose of sour and salty, rather gose like. Concludes with some pumpkin and a bit of the grainy flavor again for a near pumpkin pie like crust. Hard to evaluate as this is not cohesive at all yet dazzling in the fact that so many disparate flavours are here. The sourness fades away a bit as the beer warms.

Mouthfeel - initially smooth and creamy, then thin and watery (coinciding with the sourness) then just a light bodied beer.

Overall - collective Project Sour Pumpkin Saison is a collection of a number of flavours that are very different and combined to make you experience a multitude of beers. While I appreciate the effort, I think a combination of just two elements, I.e. A pumpkin saison or pumpkin gose might have worked better here. But still an interesting beer that is worth trying just simply for the flavor and mouthfeel roller coaster.

Update September 20, 2017. Tried this again with the 2017 batch. Now seems to be called Sour Harvest Saison, but the beer seems just about the same. Still interesting, weird and tasty but not enough to buy with any regularity. Might have had this very slightly overrated.

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Photo of jrenihan
3.6/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Photo of andrenaline
3.86/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Boo-urns
4/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Jaisell
4.15/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of nullbort
4.1/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Pmicdee
2.5/5  rDev -31.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Photo of KvK
4.16/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is an interesting beer.

L: Cloudy, with a slight orangeness
S: almost imperceptible hint of pumpkin and spice.
T: Really well made sour. Very small amount of the spice and pumpkin. Great sour flavour, I'm very impressed.
F: Highly carbonated, and thin, which is very style specific
O: overall I really like the beer. I wish the Pumpkin and spice flavours came out more in the can (from sept 2016). Maybe I have to try it from the brewery. Definitely one of my favourite sours now

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Photo of kevinlater
3.6/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Photo of yancot
4/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Cycle69
4/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Electros
3.65/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of Simon212
3.94/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

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Collective Project: Sour Pumpkin Saison from Collective Arts Brewing
Beer rating: 3.66 out of 5 with 30 ratings