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New Holland Existential: HopwineNew Holland Existential: Hopwine
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
newhollandbrew.com

Style: American Double / Imperial IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.50%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by alexgash on 01-04-2007

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Reviews:
137
Ratings:
142
pDev:
13.6%
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Photo of Tyrawlings
3.75/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz. Bottle poured into a pint glass.

A: Hazy, deep dark orange in color woth tea colored hues. Micro bubble white head pours two fingers thick. Decent retention. Nice sticky lacing.

S: Sweet fruit. Apple. Peach. Apricot. Toffee. Grain and alcohol.

T: The sweetness of tropical fruits and apples dominate the front end of this brew. Soft caramel malts and the taste of toffee come in to play the balancing game but are immediately beaten back by a citrus hop bitterness that zaps the tongue. Big grain taste is followed by a hot alcohol burn. Finishes sweet and dry.

M: Syrupy and slightly slick. Minimal carbonation. Warming and dry.

D: I think this barleywine has the potential to be a very nice example of the style. It seems a bit hot and needs time to settle down. I am very interested to try this one again after some six months or so of aging! Recommended.

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Photo of KAF
3.75/5  rDev 0%

Photo of ChainGangGuy
3.75/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: Pours a clear, bright amber body with a lush, bubbly off-white head.

Smell: Light, delicate aroma of caramel, green tea, and tangerines.

Taste: Sweet and somewhat grainy with the taste of caramel flanked by hop flavors of juicy tangerines and a sprinkling of pine needles. Finishes bittersweet and also resinous and soapy.

Mouthfeel: Medium-full body. Mild carbonation.

Drinkability: Not really as hoppy as the front of the bottle led me to believe.

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Photo of Twerknasty
3.74/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours an orange drank color, haha its so true though! Very little lacing, very little head. To start this off, the nose is very sound. The hops are incredibly pronounced on the nose, showing tropical fruit canned base and have a hint of showing a bitterness at the first taste. The palate consists of a very simplistic barley wine, with malts dominating with hops on the background showing only a slight bitterness. The main flaw that i notice is the sheer alcohol presence which is unbalanced. Not a terrible beer, but I wouldn't bring this beer home for a double dip

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Photo of movingtrain
3.73/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a somewhat cloudy/murky brownish-red color. Not a lot of head retention here, though this would be due to the growler, also.

In the aroma are tart cherries, dark honey, ripe citrus, raspberry, wet wood, and hard candy. It is rich, almost syrupy in the aroma. On the way toward the palate, some big malt characteristics come forward, filled with oats and caramel.

The flavor here is a strong balance between the malty and the hoppy. The initial taste is quite sweet, providing caramel, ginger, brown sugar, molasses, and honey notes. As the beer progresses, it becomes more bitter, though not overly so. The hops are present, but not dominant, allowing a slight hop character to play beneath a fine chorus of toasty malt flavors.

Overall, this beer is rich, dense, and packs quite a punch. It has some interesting characteristics, and gives a refreshing and unique take on the "barleywine" style, calling it "hopwine." Both the Double IPA big hop character, and the Barleywine malty sweet characteristics are here, and the final product is, well, somewhat similar to the name.

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Photo of rajendra82
3.71/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I picked this bomber up at Green's in Greenville, South Carolina. The color of the beer was copper, the body clear, and the head quite small. For a beer with a silk screened hop cone on the label, the smell was quite subdued. I could pick up some distant earthy and citric hops, but its was nothing to rave about. The taste was much hoppier, as the spicy and bitter flavors were apparent immediately. The malt was skeletal in nature and provided a stable but unspectacular foundation. The alcohol was completely hidden, and this one drank like many IPAs rather than the barleywine strength it really was. In the mouth, this felt, oily, slippery, and mercurial. This was a very unique creation indeed, but I found it somewhat empty.

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Photo of mntlover
3.7/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a rich amber color with small off white head that falls quickly to clumped foam, leaves some decent lace.

Aroma is nice rich earthy caramel dripping with hints of molasses, nice pine resin notes hidden underneath. Nice rich smelling not as hoppy as most I2PA's but very relaxing soothing smelling.

Taste is big on caramel malts sweet slightly cloying with nice alcohol notes. Kind of Old Ale or Strong Ale tasting more then I2PA. Hops can hardly keep up with big malt base that becomes more alcoholic as it warms, hardly a hop monster but not bad either, just need to relabel bottle.

Mouthfeel is not as big as all the malt would suggest but a medium with mellow carbonation.

Drinkability is good just don't expect an I2PA and all will be good. Not a bad beer just not what the bottle states it is.

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Photo of sweemzander
3.7/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

22oz. bottle, split, and poured into an imperial pint glass. No visible bottled date.

(A)- Pours a clear orange amber with a respectable white foamy head, but dissipated rather quickly down to a layer of bubbles. Minimal lacing present.

(S)- Massive pineapple citrus with a laid-back hop and malt aroma. Just huge pineapple juice character with a touch of sugary honey.

(T)- Ample hop and pine presence with obvious pineapple citrus. Sugary sweet honey-lemon fruit and light caramel-ish malt.

(M)- Good carbonation level with ample sugary sweetness with great pineapple. But once again, the sugary sweetness overpowers all the great nuances this beer has to offer.

(D)- Serious sugary sweetness with pineapple and honey. . . . New Holland could be a really great brewery with their High Gravity series, but most, if not all of them are way too sugary sweet; it really ruins what could be superb styles of unique and interesting beers, instead just super sweet/super high abvs.

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Photo of mjd83goblue
3.7/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bomber for $6.49. Tried this at the MI Winter Beer Fest, was a nice surprise to see it on the shelfs. I believe it was advertised as a "Hop Wine" at the fest.

A: Pours a copper/amber that is pretty clear, with a small head.

S: Smells 'sticky', as in I expect a big boozy beer. Quite fruity/floral. Not smelling the hops like I expected.

T: Sweet and fruity, with tastes from the nectarine/apricot families. Has plenty of bitterness, but somewhat lacking on hop flavor. Pretty hot right now. Brutally bitter finish, which isn't necessarily bad, but I expected a little more.

M: Thick and sticky. Nice body.

D: A nice sipper. A pretty big beer, both ABV and palatte wrecking, for a bomber. 12 oz might have been enough.

Usually I don't like aged DIPA's, because I love the fresh hop taste and smell. However, I think its is better catergorized as a barleywine, and I think it could use some time. I remember liking it better at the Fest, but I think everything tasted great by that point...

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Photo of FightingEntropy
3.7/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Presentation: bottle from Andy's liquor in Rochester and poured into a pint glass cold--advise to let warm up a bit more, see below.

A: amber ale with a small very white head the disappeared quickly.

S: hops hit my nose while pouring into the pint glass. Clear and distinct from two foot away from my nose. Very strong spice and some fruity citrus as well. Hot from the alcohol. Somewhat complex spiceness from 10 hop additions.

T: A bit grassy, bitter front to back, peppery, malty sweet and oily. I was distracted reading for a bit, and as it warmed up the alcohol filled the pint glass and my nose in spite of the wide open rim. The bitterness mellowed and blended a bit and it became a better beer than my initial reaction.

M: full bodied, oily, and a drying aftertaste that lingers.

D: a bit overwhelming, but go slow, let it warm, and it grows on you.

Overall: not the best DIPA I've had, but good and worth a try if you're a NH fan like myself.

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Photo of alexgash
3.7/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Imbibed at Ashley's. Served colder than it should, so I let it warm up a bit.

Medium copper with an amber glaze. Small, sticky, off-white head. Nose is full of fruit, butterscotch, alcohol, and citrusy hops. Smells intimidating! Bracing, powerful palate full of ripe fruits, sugar, butterscotch syrup up front. Woah! Oh, and there's the citrusy hops too! Alcohol is noticeable throughout and is perhaps a bit too hot. Spicy, sweet malt dominates this "hopwine", and the hops play second fiddle. Interesting. If you like sugary malt bomb barleywines give this one a try. Full-bodied, with a syrupy, mouth-lacquering feel. It'll warm you right up too!

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.68/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I don't know about a hopwine. When I think of such terminology, I imagine the Avery 10 and 11's of the world; and especially Dogfish 120 Minute. This beer doesn't stand up to those larger-than-life beers. The beer begins with a promising pour: solidly copper and a firm, withstanding foamstand. Aromas of fresh fruit (apples, oranges, grapefruit, mangos, and appricots) swirl around hearty barley malts and obvious alcoholic presence. The flavors are a surprising balance of malts and hops. The citrus fruits stand up to the proclaimed hop additions and never waver. This keeps the beer from realizing the 'hopwine' promise. Despite the balance, this is a good heavy blend, but hendered by the higher, defiant alcohols -- fusals. All said and done, the beer is worth drinking and enjoying, but can't compete with so many other high-gavity IPA's.

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Photo of nlmartin
3.67/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer was served in an Imperial Nonic.

Appearance: The beer poured a clear amber coloration. The head retention was very short. The head was a thin creamy biege coloration. Quickly falling rings of lacing remain on my glass.

Smell: The beer has caramel boozey alcohol notes on intial smell. This gives way to a melange of fruityness. The beers fruityness encompasses a combination of apples, berries, grapefruit, lemon, mango and pine. Again the alcohol is noticeable but not an undue distraction.

Taste: Sweet caramel and toffee kick the beers flavor off. The fruityness from the smell is nowhere near as identifiable in the flavor. Grapefruit and apple make an appearance on my palate. A bit of pine and grassyness. The alcohol demands to have its authority respected in the flavor. (I think New Hollands web site claims 11. % for this beer.

Mouthfeel/ Drinkability: The beer is full bodied. The alcohol is well incorporated in the beer. No alcohol heat is noted in the mouth. The hops have plenty of oilyness and last a long time. The beer drinks better than ok but probably would have been more enjoyable shared.

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Photo of prototypic
3.65/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: It's a dark reddish color with a creamy one finger head. Very good retention and a nice coat of lace covered the glass.

Smell: Very citrusy sweet smelling. There's some grapefruit, orange and mango present. Hops are strong. Very piney smell to it. Caramel and toffee malts only add to the mix and make this one complex smelling brew.

Taste: Citrus notes really start this out on the sweet side. Grapefruit flavor adds a bit of bitterness. Once the hops kick in, it's very piney and bitter. Caramel and toffee malts provide some balance.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability. Medium bodied. Very lightly carbonated. Alcohol is strong and noticeable. The strength really knocks down the drinkability a notch for me. Overall, it's a pretty good beer. Definitely worth a try.

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Photo of Monkeyknife
3.65/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from the bottle a clear and bright gold color with a whisper thin off-white head.

The aroma is bright with sweet malts, piney hops, and a whiff of booze.

The taste is quite malty up front revealing butterscotch and vanilla while slowly uncovering a bitter hoppiness. The alcohol is definitely present and warming to the palate.

Medium bodied, warming, and moderately carbonated.

A better balance between the malts and hops would have helped. Overall, not a bad DIPA and definitely worthy of a try.

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Photo of Stinkypuss
3.65/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

a. Hazy golden yellow with some nice head and lacing.

s. Piney hops dominate the nose theres some boozey notes too.

t,m,d. Caramel and a huge wave of hops riding along. An alcohal bite finishes leaving the palate quite dry. Medium bodied. Pretty well crafted, but the alcohalic bite is a bit extreme. A must for hop heads. Kind of like an intensely hopped barley wine.

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Photo of webmanspidey
3.65/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Has all the typical characteristics of Double IPAs: very bitter, hoppy, and alcoholic. Maybe a little overboard in some of the categories, as I had a difficult time slowly finishing the bomber I bought at the brewery. Definitely worth trying if you're a big Double IPA / Barleywine fan.

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Photo of BeerFMAndy
3.63/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

22 oz bottle split. Poured into a nonic. 25.5 degrees plato, 10.5% ABV, and no date.

A - Moderately clear, lightly dusted-with-rust orange amber color with teeny suspended particles. A big bone head pops up and lingers for a decent amount of time before dropping to a creamy layer while leaving thick lacing.

S - Strong background notes of hops that are lightly pine with a huge pineapple citrus aroma slightly overshadowed by beefy caramel malts and a hearty, toasty malt aroma that makes the aroma rich and potent. Pretty sweet too.

T - Fruity and floral hops combine in a clashing way with a winning pineapple citrus zest and flavor while the pine is light, it's noticeable. A really sweet sugar cloying flavor is in the background with the rich malts that hold it all in place. Really caramelly malt.

M - Smooth and rich with a really clean finish that goes down well and leaves a really bitter but sweet balance to the mouthfeel.

D - The sweetness is killing this beer in the drinkability category but as a DIPA, its pretty good. It's starting to get old quickly. I have a real problem with how much damn sugar New Holland is putting in the High Gravity series.

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Photo of maximum12
3.63/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

After an evening that included a Surly Furious & Wild Dog Gonzo, I needed something that would cut through the palate clutter like a laser. Hoo boy. This certainly fit the bill. And what's a hopwine?

For certain, this is a unique beer, which gets it points from the stink-go. The nose is unremarkable, alcohol with a bit of hops, but the taste is where this is at. I tend to favor my IIPAs as hops bombs - balance? it's a IIPA, screw balance! - but this one goes the opposite direction. The hops are present & saying the pledge, but the malts aren't balancing, they're screaming for attention & being hauled off to detention. If you're going to fuck up an IIPA by using malt, go deep! I like it.

Drinkability is high if you want to wake up sprawled out naked on your deck. Otherwise, imbibe with caution.

Good brew. New Holland is doing some good things, some I appreciate, some not so much, but tip-o-the-cap for the effort.

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Photo of Duster72
3.61/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a amber brown color with a very thin off white head. Aroma is sugary malts with a definite hint of rubber (very strange, I know). Taste is dark fruits, sugar, and very bitter hops. Very bitter finish but certainly drinkable. Interesting DIPA, not the best, but interesting.

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Photo of GRPunk
3.6/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

On cask, poured into a tulip glass.

A- It poured a hazy gold color with a 1/2 finger off-white head that turned into a full lace that clung nicely to the side of the glass.

S- Initially it had a big hoppy pine scent. Later on I picked up some grain and alcohol aromas.

T- There were some sweet malts up front followed by a hoppy bite. It was even a little fruity later on. It was a bit boozy with a sort of branyish flavor.

M- It was thick and smooth with a lot of bite from the hops and alcohol.

D- It's definitely a sipper. Even at 10.5% ABV, I thought it could be a better drinker and the booze could have been better hidden.

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Photo of TheHoppiest
3.58/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 22 oz bottle into an oversized wine glass. Pours a beautiful ruby-amber with minimal bubbly soapy white head. There's a decent amount of sediment at the bottom of the bottle.

Smell is intense, yeasty, boozy; like a barleywine gone mad. No real hop presence in the smell.

Taste is smoother than it smells; leather, oak, and leafy tastes start it out; followed by a malty yeastiness simmering in woody alcohol; ending with a faint hop echo toward the back of the mouth. As I drink more, some honey and floral notes also present.

Mouthfeel is thick, almost buttery, with a bit of sharpness.

Drinkable? Well, hard to say. I've got 22 oz to go through, and I kind of wish it was 12, so I guess that answers that.

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Photo of joe1510
3.58/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22oz Bomber
$6.99
Binny's Willowbrook

Existential Ale: Hopwine pours amber but glows a slightly hazy copper when held to the light.A nice dense two finger ivory head formed on the pour and as it fell left excellent lacing. The lowest the head fell was a half-finger cap. Good looking brew.

Smell is fairly mild. A big nose of caramel upfront and following through. Maybe even a hint of toffee. Grapefruit and a drop of orange come around in the middle. Tea leaf-like herbal hoppiness mixes in the aroma as well. Not bad but subdued for a "Hopwine".

Flavor begins with that very same caramel backbone that is strong upfront but fades as the hops come about. Some toffee in the flavor as well but the backend focuses on hops, mild but hops none-the-less. Tea leaf like hop bitterness along with just a squeeze or two of citrus on the finish. Good but not very exciting.

Good mouthfeel. The body is medium with a creamy frothiness that slides along rather easily. Carbonation is on the low side but works nicely.

The mouthfeel definately helps the drinkability but unfortuanately the smell and flavor drag it down. Not at all bad but nothing really stands out.

I was expecting something more from a so called "hopwine" but it didn't quite deliver. Actually it was a little low on the hops, the problem is, all I wanted was hops, that's why I bought a hopwine. A little less decieving of a name would make for a better brew.

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Photo of BierFan
3.55/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

No freshness date. Poured from a 22 ounce brown bottle into a pint glass.

Appearance: Hazy dark orange body with an almost nonexistant light tan head and no carbonation.

Smell: Has the same creamy vanilla smell that other New Holland high gravity beers have, most likely because they all use the same yeast. Citrus hop aroma and a little alcohol bite are in the background.

Taste: Rich and creamy. Bitterness and citrus peel are in the finish. The alcohol is noticeable but not as much as some other reviews make it seem.

This is more of a barleywine or strong ale than a DIPA.

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Photo of roadhouse
3.54/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 22 oz. bomber into a snifter. I'm not sure this should be categorized as a DIPA, the New Holland rep told me it was a cross between a DIPA and a Barleywine, so maybe it should be an American Strong Ale?

Appears a hazy dark orange color with a thin, less than one centimeter, soapy looking off-white head.

Aroma is sweet and malty with a nice hop bite that reminds me of citrus and a bit of pininess.

Taste is kind of strange actually. It starts out with a malty sweetness then hops take over and make it quite bitter. There is a certain fruitiness to it, but I distinguish any particulars. Bitter, fruity finish lingers on.

Mouthfeel is definitely lacking in the carbonation department. It seems like it's going to be thick but ends up being way too thin.

I was quite disappointed with this one. That usually doesn't happen with New Holland, but oh well.

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New Holland Existential: Hopwine from New Holland Brewing Company
Beer rating: 3.75 out of 5 with 142 ratings
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