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Dragon's Milk | New Holland Brewing Company

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89
very good
1,430 Reviews
Dragon's MilkDragon's Milk
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company
Michigan, United States | website

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
A barrel aged Imperial Stout with roasty malt character intermingled with deep vanilla tones, all dancing in an oak bath.

2014 Bottles are 11% ABV

Added by beernut7 on 08-12-2002

BEER STATS
Reviews:
1,430
Ratings:
5,393
Avg:
3.97
pDev:
25.69%
 
 
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321
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Reviews: 1,430 | Ratings: 5,393
Photo of mtstatebeer
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22 oz bottle. Pours a dark brown with a red hue, thin fizzy tan head that quickly diminishes, good lacing. Aroma is caramel, vanilla, dark fruits, and wood. Flavor is caramel and roasted malts, vanilla, wood, chocolate, a hint of alcohol, slightly herbal, and dark fruits. Mouthfeel is medium, lots of roasted bitterness with a slight alcohol burn, and fairly carbonated. Good beer.

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Photo of Tone
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a black color. 1/3 inch head of a pale tan color. Slight retention and decent lacing. Smells of barrel alcohol, roasted malt, sweet malt, and yeast. Fits the style of an American Strong Ale. Mouth feel is sharp and crisp with an average carbonation level. Tastes of oatmeal, sweet malt, slight roasted malt, strong barrel alcohol. Overall, strong alcohol flavor and yet still not as overpowering or distracting from the body, as other aged beers.

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Photo of champ103
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a nearly pitch black color. A one finger tan head forms with good retention. Some sticky lace is left behind.
S: Roasted malt up front. Chocolate and coffee is strong. Slightly smoky and some dry wood.
T: Lots of roasted malt, chocolate, coffee, and sweet vanilla. Lots of dry wood. A light grainy flavor. Plenty of fusel alcohol.
M/D: A full body that is low on the carbonation. Creamy and smooth. The fusel alcohol makes this a one and down. Though a nice beer to sip on.

This is a nice beer. Big and something to sip during a contemplative night. Recommended.

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Photo of Redrover
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

2011 vintage bomber poured into a Samuel Smith imperial pint glass. The beer is almost black with a dark tan head.

It has an aroma of dark fruit (dried plums and raisins), roasted malt and a bit of baker’s chocolate.

The taste is of dark roasted malts, assertive raisins, dark chocolate, a hint vanilla and something earthy that revealed itself to be the wood elements left over from the barrel aging. In this case, I would prefer a non-barrel aged version, as the wood aftertaste distracts from the base beer. The alcohol (10%) is very well hidden with no heat or harshness.

The mouth is smooth and silky. This is a good beer, but the wood notes just seem to throw it a little out of whack.

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Photo of tapman
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

A- Pitch black with not much head at all, like 1/2 a finger. Lacing makes crazy spin art pictures and looks creamy and delicious.

Smell is chocolate (bitter) and roasted malts with a musky smell to it. Actually smells creamy. Its kinda interesting so I'll up it one. Alcohol can't be smelled, but give the nose a warming quality.

Taste doesn't really do it for me. Very musky, like oak (though it does say oak aged) except that its a moldy, humid, florida swamp type of oak. Hops are not apparent. The oak is interesting, though not great. Too musky, though the vanilla helps to balance it out.

Mouthfeel is thick, yet with the carbonation bite. I like it. Like a decent milk stout.

I've read the other reviews for this brew and I think that they are being a little unfair. Sure the drinkability is low for many, but it is an interesting tasting, smelling, feeling, and looking brew and I don't think people are reviewing due to style. There are a lot of mediocre milk stouts out there, and this one is far from ordinary.

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Photo of swizzlenuts
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

The beer is poured a very deep rich ruby with very little head. The head that is there dissipates rather quickly, leaving only a small ring around the end of the glass. Tons of vanilla and oak come through on the nose, making it a pleasing aroma. A bit of caramel shines through as well.

When taking a drink I get a lot of burnt/roasted sugars with some vanilla and oak notes. The beer is tasty, but perhaps overly sweet. It's not quite cloying, but it's almost there. There isn't a lot of flavours coming through, and there is a slight bit of alcohol. I like the combination of vanilla and burnt/sweet sugar, but it's almost too strong and it needs something else to balance the flavours.

It's decently drinkable. I think the mouthfeel is pretty good though.

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Photo of jale
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had on tap at reno's west in Lansing.

A: Pours black with 2 quarters of light brown head.

S: Smell is sherry, carmel malts oak and dark fruits.

T:Oak and booze upfront followed by some burnt sugar. Moves into dark roasted malt and bitter coffee. A hint of vanilla and light dark fruits. Huge oak finish.

M: Thick body.

O: Solid beer but has to much booze when fresh. Better with age from a bottle.

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Photo of mr-jj
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

2015 vintage poured into a snifter from a 12 oz bottle brought out by AMM.

Color is dark brown with a thin khaki head that dissipates quickly. Smell is toasted grain, oak, vanilla and some light bourbon. Taste is roasted malt with dark fruit and vanilla. Mouthfeel is a little thin, with mild carbonation. Overall, it's a very good stout, but doesn't gain much complexity from the barrel.

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Photo of kshankar
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours black with a thick tan head that has good retention.

Aroma: Vanilla, roasted malts, oak (and a hint of bourbon too)

Taste is roasty, chocolatey and has a hint of vanilla in the finish. The mouthfeel is creamy and fuller bodied, and there is a sharp hit in the finish which I think comes from the bourbon-y oak aging. Drinkability? Actually isn't too bad..but considering the size of the bottle, I think I'll have only one of these.

Overall, its a good beer.

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Photo of Norfawkers
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

One of the more balanced oak barrel beer. Overall, it's a decent sipping beer that's worth a try (especially if you're a whisky fan)

Appearance: Deep dark brown with a tan head

Smell: Fragrant malt, butter, and a touch of mocha

Taste: Sweet malt, toasted oak, and butter

Mouthfeel: Creamy smooth with a bitter kick

Drinkability: Definitely a sipping beer with its many rich flavors.

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Photo of deereless
3.7/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Thin head which dropped relatively quick, a little spotting lacing along the interior of the glass, dark brown to black in color - 4.00, S: Oak and vanilla really dominate the aroma profile, there is also a strong sweetness to the nose that reminds me of fudge brownies, within the depths I also pick up some dates or dark raisins - 4.25, T: Significant alcohol burn to the point of almost being harsh, lots of dark chocolates and pureed dates, a little bit acidic and kind of reminds me of a very mild soy sauce, the vanilla that was present on the nose comes through on the palate - 3.50, M: Mouth feel is somewhat thick and creamy - 4.00, D: A good beer that is quite drinkable but there was something that didn't click with me, I generally like the use of oak barrels but I'm not sure that was a benefit to Dragon's Milk - 3.75

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Photo of shbobdb
3.69/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I first had this beer, hmmm, maybe three, four years ago. I remember not being terribly impressed by it then, and that lack of enthusiasm continues into the present day.

Ahhh, but the way this beer looks! It looks like a black cow (vanilla ice-cream and coca-cola), a jet black body with a HUGE billowy coffee-and-cream head that lasts and lasts. The head is really incredibly bubbly, with super-sized bubbles normally only found in soda. It looks wonderful.

The smell is OK. It is so absolutely dominated by vanilla that it is hard to get much of anything else. Vanilla, some booze, and a little bit of roasted malts.

The taste pretty much follows the nose. A strong blast of vanilla, with some booze, light oxidation, toffee, chocolate, and cherries. Not bad, but it is so dominated by the vanilla that it is difficult to tell. There is, however, a nice bourbon finish to the beer.

The mouthfeel is incredibly thin. At first, the carbonation helped round it out, but as I drink this beer and the carbonation fades it becomes incredibly thin. The bourbon finish adds a nice *bite* to the end of this beer.

Drinkability is OK. I think that a 12oz serving would be better than a bomber, but that is what I think about most beers. Unless I really like a beer, 22oz is simply too much of one beer. Not bad, overall, but just, meh. I'll take Pilgim's Dole over this anyday.

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Photo of rudzud
3.69/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Shared with JLindros. 2014 vintage.

A - Poured into a Kate the Great tulip a nice semi clear brown hue with a thin head that faded to leave light wisps.

S - Aromas of light chocolate, faint dark fruit, very light bourbon. Really faint vanilla and oak.

T - Taste is similar to the nose, fair amount of dark fruit. There is some chocolate candy taste, rather mild bourbon too.

M - Mouthfeel is lightly carbonated, bit thin.

O - Overall this beer was rather underwhelming. Didn't get nearly enough stout notes.

Serving type: bottle

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Photo of hwy61mb
3.69/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

I poured this 2010 vintage from a 12oz. bottle into a snifter. I can smell it right off the bat, without even putting my nose in it. Its dark, but not opaque - not as dark as most stouts that I have had. Little head, basically none except for a ring around the edge of the glass. There is also minimal lacing. The smells are of the roasty, caramelly, vanilla variety - with a healthy does of booziness.

This hits me in the front of the mouth first with a tingling sensation. The taste follows the nose, it is sweet and malty, but also a touch bitter in the finish, along with plenty of booze. As it warms up, the oaken flavors and smells begin to reveal themselves. This is a sipper for sure, but it's real good.

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Photo of jtladner
3.68/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A dark beer, but not as dark as expected for a stout, definitely not opaque. I would compare it in color to a Belgian strong dark ale. The aroma and taste are almost completely dominated by oak and bourbon. Any roasted flavor was almost completely hidden. It was an enjoyable beer, and I would recommend giving it a try. However, I would not have known it was a stout if it hadn't been written on the menu, and since I was expecting a stout, I was a little disappointed.

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Photo of Alieniloquium
3.68/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

650 mL bottle poured into a de Struise chalice.

Appearance - Black, but not quite inky. Nice khaki head. Excellent retention and lacing. Nice.

Smell - Very nice.Oaky and bourbony. Nice deep roast. I detect some sweetness but not sure if it's lingering sugar or lactose.

Taste - Not quite as nice as the smell. Oaky notes and roasted malt. Slightly bitter malts. Vanilla integrates nicely. Very sweet in the back end. Not syrupy, but sugary. Detracts slightly.

Mouthfeel - Very sweet, too sweet. A sipper, but still very pleasant to drink. Medium carbonation and medium bodied.

Overall - It would be really good if it wasn't so sweet. Just too much extra sugar. Nice barrel and roast, though.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.68/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served on-draught into a stemflute in a Minneapolis bar. Reviewed from notes taken around Thanksgiving 2012.

A: Pours a one finger khaki colour head of nice cream, good thickness, and good retention for the high ABV. Body colour is a very dark ruby-black. Nontransparent.

Sm: Caramel, cream, dark malts, chocolate, and rich dark chocolate covered cherry. A moderately strong aroma.

T: Dominant chocolate with rich caramel and dark malts for the foundation. Chocolate cherry comes through. Bourbon undertones. Rich and well balanced. Delicious. Some raisin. Licorice. Well built. I like it. Well layered, nicely complex, and subtle. I'd like more roast in the foundation. I get some grape on the finish, which is too sweet.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Creamy. Nicely thick. Good carbonation. Heavy on the palate.

Dr: Drinkable and enjoyable. I quite fancy it. A delightful brew. I'd like to try it in bottled form. I look forward to trying more beers from this brewery; this was a good example of the style.

B

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Photo of ndekke39
3.68/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tried a half-pint of this on tap. My first experience was good, but not what I expected. This time around I knew what to expect. This beer strikes me as a good Scottish Ale and not a Strong Ale. Pours pretty dark with ruby edges. Smells and tastes more on the malty side: lightly-roasted coffee, touch of caramel, carbon, smoky, hints of raisins. Some residual hops. Fairly smooth mouthfeel; not super milky, but like a skim milk. Complemented by a touch of fizz, especially on the front of the tongue. A very drinkable beer. More refreshing when it's slightly chilled. As it warmed (which is inevitable, I guess) the coffee and smokiness gets a little too dominant. Still, I would gladly reach for this one again.

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Photo of HoppyHachey
3.68/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Real dark, even with light up to it you can't see through. Seems to have a sling hue of red coloring showing when up to light. It created a small head with little lacing.

B: It seems to have a roasted smell to it. Almost smells like some of the smoked beers I've had.

T: Mild yet flavorful taste. Has more of a roasted flavor. I like it.

MF: Smooth feel, tingles my taste buds. Drinks very easy.

Over I like this beer fairly well. I've definitely had better but for the price, I'd buy it again.

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Photo of MuddyFeet
3.68/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I bought a different labelled bottle than the one pictured. Mine has the silk screen print right onto the glass.

Poured a dark brown in color but thin and watery in appearance. Thick, creamy head that never really went away. Loads of thick, layered lace (slightly tinted brown) just inching up the sides of the glass.

Flavor is sweet with a slight hop kicker towards the finish. Molasses and just a little bit of brown sugar. Got some fruit too but I cannot quite place it--possibly cherry or plums. Just some slight hops towards the finish which comes across as wintergreen. Medium to full body that thickens as the beer warmed. The head kind of gqave me a milk moustache.

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Photo of DovaliHops
3.68/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

2011 Vintage. Pours black that appears dark red when held up to the light. Very tiny tan head that disappears very quickly. Scent is initially very heavy on the dark fruit side. Very sweet dark fruits. A hint of chocolate and tobacco as well. Smells extremely sweet. Taste is initially sweet dark fruits with just a bit of delicious bourbon flavor. Nice chocolatey notes with vanilla and molasses. Very very sweet. Mouthfeel is a little more than than I would have liked. Drinkability is fair. Alcohol is well hidden. Overall, this beer is delicious, but it's just delicious in small amounts. I will definitely be able to finish this 12oz bottle, but couldn't drink more. A little too sweet. Also, I think this one would be more accurate at being classified as a barrel-aged quad. The dark fruits are much more overpowering than chocolate or coffee.

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Photo of naterock
3.68/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

poured into a pint glass. deep reddish brown with a thick white head.

smell is rich vanilla with an oakey nose. caramel malt is lingering in the background.

taste is rich caramel malts with a chocolatey body. Vanilla undertones and an oakey nuance.

mouth is viscous and rich. Drinkability is fairly low because this one is surely a sipper. Flavors actually develop more when it warms to near room temp.

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Photo of derkfromwi
3.68/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2011 22oz

A: Thin tan head, really dark, almost black, nice carbonation and lacing

S: Not getting a lot here, maybe I'm getting a cold? Touch of chocolate, vanilla, caramel, oak, and malts

T: Alcohol, roasty, oak, chocolate, it's complex, but too much alcohol in my opinion

M: Creamy, chewy, low carbonation

O: Good stout, above average, but doesn't get to founder's levels in my opinion

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Photo of SLeffler27
3.68/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours chestnut brown but passes no light through the glass. A modest tan head leaves some film and little lace.

This one is rather subdued, with a mix of chocolate, light bourbon, perhaps some vanilla. Lightly roasted malt adds little. As it warms, there is a suggestion of Kahlua.

The flavor follows the nose, however, it emphasizes bourbon, especially in the long finish. With warmth, cherry cordial comes out with a hint of oak. This one is substantially better at warmer temperatures.

A smooth texture, with lively carbonation, medium body and warming alcohol above expectation.

Paired with a cigar while reading, this one sips well. Other examples of the style are bolder, but this is a better match in the everyday line-up.

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Photo of tastybeer
3.67/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance is pretty close to black topped by a slightly tan tight head. Small with stringy + scattered lace. Aroma has a lot of milky cocoa, bready malts, light fruit that's somewhat jam-like. Taste is similar with molasses, smoother, and has a mellow carbonation. Not bad at all but alllmost too sweet for me. I decided this would make an excellent dessert beer. Texture is mellow, buttery, and perhaps milky. Drinkability suffers a little with the intense sweetness.

Not bad, but a little heavy for a anytime but during dessert beer.

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Dragon's Milk from New Holland Brewing Company
89 out of 100 based on 1,430 ratings.
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