Dragon's Milk | New Holland Brewing Company

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Dragon's MilkDragon's Milk
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
New Holland Brewing Company
Michigan, United States | website

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.00%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
A barrel aged Imperial Stout with roasty malt character intermingled with deep vanilla tones, all dancing in an oak bath.

2014 Bottles are 11% ABV

Added by beernut7 on 08-12-2002

BEER STATS
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1,432
Ratings:
5,413
Avg:
3.97
pDev:
25.69%
 
 
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Photo of jaxon53
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a beer I've been wanting to try for sometime. This is also my first New Holland beer. Served this just slightly chilled, in a pint glass, from a twenty two ounce brown bottle.

Appearance: Dragon's Milk pours out what appears to be black, with deep garnet highlights. A semi-strong pour resulted in about a finger of bubbly tan head. Head faded quickly into a soapy tan coating atop the beer. Just a bit of random lace was left behind.

Smell: Malty, with complex oak layers that have hints of char. I'm getting slight notes of chocolate and caramel. A bit of cherry lingers in the background with a mild blast of booze.

Taste: Again, nice thick malt comes through first with a good dose of oak. The oak flavor really gives this beer a smooth flavor. Again I'm picking up hints of chocolate and a bit of faint coffee. There was also a bit of char that was also noticed in the nose. Slight vanilla undertones. The 8.5 percent ABV goes almost unnoticed, except for a slight warmth when it goes down.

Mouthfeel: Almost thick, full bodied mouthfeel. Quite smooth with a moderate amount of tingly carbonation.

Drinkability: Quite drinkable thanks to the smoothing, mellowing effect of the oak. Would love to have this beer again.

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Photo of FosterJM
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

1425th Review on BA
Bottle to Wine glass
12oz

Purchased at Binny's Naperville, IL

App- Poured out the color of port wine. A bit of brown, black and red. Had no bubbles on the first pour and then the second pour had a 1/4" head and no cling. Was okay looking.

Smell- Really had a ton of malts behind it. The oak is really subdued and has more of a prickly booze from the ABV. A good amount of dark fruits and chocolate behind it.

Taste- This was a flavorful high ABV beer. It was tasty but needed a bit more balance and filling flavors. The dark fruits make this like a port vs. BB stout, wasn't bad, but I've had better.

Mouth- A good and filling light medium body with a low/medium carbonation. Fairly rich and chocolately. Nice feel.

Drink- I really should've bought 3 or more. I think with time, this
can be magical.

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Photo of psnydez86
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Apperance- Poured a deep dark mahogony into a pint glass with good lacing and nice 1.5 inch esprosso like head. light can barely pass thru this monster.

Smell- Roasty Coffe, Vanilla, Bourbon, booze.

Taste- Starts off with a typical roasty coffee stout tastes which quickly gets attacked by some vanilla and strong bourbon flavor. I'm not a bourbon fan at all but it is a nice sidekick to the vanilla and roasty character of this beer.

Mouthfeel- Nice creamy mouthfeel on this one which I think is perfect for the style

Overall- Its my birthday today and a friend of mine picked this up for me at 8 Degree Plato Beer company Ferndale, Michigan. This is actually the first oak aged Stout i've had and I really enjoyed it. If your the kind of person that enjoys craft beer and enjoys bourbon/whiskey on the rocks this beer will turn you into a raging alchoholic if your already not there. CHEERS.

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Photo of Chris_r2112
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4

Appearance: Black, with about 1 finger of brown head. leaves moderate lacing on the glass.

Smell: Pretty bad actually. Extremely metallic. Sweet chocolate with hints of woodiness. Would be nice if the metallic smell wasn't so prominent. EDIT: The metallic smell of this beer has dissipated a bit as it has warmed. I still feel it can be greatly improved upon, though.

Taste: this is where the beer starts to get good. Almost no hints of metal which I detected on the nose. I'm getting sweet chocolate, smoky wood, bourbon (of course), slight hint of coffee, vanilla. This beer is fairly boozy. It's 11%, and you can instantly tell. Regardless, the alcohol content works with the rest of the beer.

Feel: This is the one factor that sets this beer apart from other similar beers in the style. This beer feels absolutely beautiful. Silky smooth, milky with light to medium carbonation. Definitely world class in regards to the feel.

This beer was a bit of an odd ball. Appearance wise, its your typical black stout. The head and lacing were even borderline sub-par . I also didn't like the smell of this beer at all. I would almost liken it to sticking my face in a bag full of nickels. The only factor that saved this beer from a sub 2 score in "smell" was the nice hints of wood and bourbon I found as well. However (and this is a big however), this beer is incredibly tasty if you get past the average appearance and the poor smell. Wonderful hints of chocolate, smokiness, wood, and of course bourbon make this a very tasty beer. The feel of this beer is also world class. Seriously one of the smoothest beers I have ever had the fortune of trying. I will more than likely pick this one up again if I can find it, despite the fact that It's a little bit rough around the edges.

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Photo of ONUMello
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

12oz 2012 vintage bottle poured into a pint glass
A: Dark brown with a two-finger tan head
S: Loads of milk chocolate, a bit of caramel, coffee and bread
T: Chocolate, some cream, again a bit of caramel/coffee- intense up front but lacks a significant finish
M: Medium-bodied, creamy, a touch hot
O: Solid but I don't get how obsessed I've heard some are over this

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Photo of BarrelO
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

22oz bomber poured into a goblet. 8.5% ABV according to the bottle.

A: Dark brown body, almost black. Little head with no lacing to speak of.

S: Lots of oak. Also some vanilla.

T: Again, oak and vanilla. Some whiskey-esque alcohol burn.

M: A bit thin. I would have liked it to have been more substantial.

D: I'm not sure what to make of this. It's kind of in style limbo. It has a few elements of a stout, an old ale, and a barleywine, but it never really takes off when taken as a whole. I don't regret trying it, but I don't see myself seeking it out in the future.

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Photo of korguy123
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle into snifter.

A- Pitch black pour with a half finger light beige head. Lacing is spotty.

S- Slight oak with a touch of bourbon in the mix. Slightly sweet with chocolate, vanilla and molasses. Roasted malt, slight char with a subtle coffee finish.

T- Chocolate, medium roasted coffee, vanilla and a nice, sweet warm bourbon presence. Molasses, brown sugar and licorice in the back end.

M- Medium to full bodied, slightly creamy, a little on the syrupy side.

O- I didn't know what to expect with this coming into it. I knew it was classified as an American Stout which generally to me feel a little on the thin side. This had a great feel, the bourbon added but didn't distract. Overall pleasant surprise!

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Photo of bostoneo
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Obtained from Mustard Seed market in Fairlawn/Montrose North Eastern Ohio f or 5.99. Served in a british non-nick pint glass.

A - Deep black, almost stout/porter looking, appearpance with a very small head that faded quickly.

S - Smells of quality stout/porter with a bourbon touch, which is very light.

Taste - Small touch of bourbon again with the base of a stout/porter beer

Mouthful - Almost like water with a bourbon and stout/porter taste, great balance.

Great beer to follow up with some bourbon you've already had. Smooth, can't even notice the 9% abv thats even in it! However a bit pricey, but hey its quality beer!

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Photo of JVEyck309
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Found this in my friend's local store, (Englewood NJ) hadn't seen anything by this Brewery before so I went for it.
Bomber poured into regular glass
Dark black with thin sticky head
Smell is big on the oaky side with vanilla caramel syrup
taste was to be expected, heavy warming alcohol, whiskey, oak, caramel vanilla, sweet malt
Oak flavor might be a bit much but I'm enjoying this, really warms the throat, great for a cold night like tonight.
High abv doesn't make this session worthy but I would get this again.

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Photo of JoEBoBpr
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a tulip glass from a 22oz bottle.
Vintage: 2013

Pours a nice dark liquid with some mahogany edges. There is a nice dense light tan head that forms. Pretty creamy looking. Retention is not bad. Nice and sticky on the sides of the glass.

Aroma starts off with some caramel and molasses. Dark fruit notes and some slight boozy notes follow. There are also some nice chocolatey hints in the aroma that give the brew a nice sweet notes. There is some good heat to the brew and there is also notes of wood from the barrels.

Flavor starts off with some nice boozy heat. There is nice molasses and dark fruit notes in the flavor. Notes of raisins and gooey caramel sweetness. Some earthy and woody barrel notes are present as well that intermingle with some more fudgey and chocolatey goodness. The barrel and boozy heat are present but not overwhelming and actually gives the beer a nice cleaner finish. The body is a bit on the lighter side but its still a bit on the medium side.

OVerall this is a yummy approachable BA beer. Nice notes of bourbon and some good dark fruits.

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Photo of Emunselle
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Due to the fact that I am drinking Dragon's Milk with some dark chocolate as I am writing this, I can be more in depth with this review.

Appearance: Its Dark! Barely can see light through it. Looks lightly carbonated. I poured it gently out of the bottle so I don't know what kind of head it may produce but I would assume a very thick head.

Smell: Sweet and malty.

Taste: Kinda Barley-wine like. Sweeter than a typical dark ale. I dig it. Leaves no bitter after taste. In fact it leave a very pleasant after taste.

Mouth Feel: Rather thick. The name implies a thicker feel and that's exactly what you get. But not like you have to chew it.

Seeing how I like thick beer in the right style and flavor, this one will routinely stock my shelf whenever I do my beer runs.

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Photo of HarrySTruman
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Dark brown/red, almost black. Small head that dissipates quickly, slight lacing, but a good lacing for the style.

Smells of dark fruits, figs, oak barrel, alcohol and molasses.

Taste is very interesting. Not hard to drink, tastes like the smell, very well balanced. Actually pretty easy to drink given the oak barrel aging (which I feel can lead to making a beer a sipper, this one doesn't have that effect) and high ABV. Hints of bitter chocolate and malts, mixed with oak, alcohol and dark fruits.

It's smooth but pretty thick. Mild flavors and high ABV make it slightly harder to drink than an average American Stout, but not bad considering what it is.

I really like this, although it will absolutely get you drunk in a jiffy. Either take it slow or drink out of the public eye!

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Photo of Omnium
3.85/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Bottle > Tulip glass
A - Rich black brown with a very thin layer of fizzy tan head, no lacing. Looks kind of lame.
S - There is a lot of rich bourbon and oak notes in here with some sweet caramel malt. Lots of vanilla in here, some slight hint of cinnamon, and dark chocolate.
T - Very rich and sweet, sugary caramel malt, loads of vanilla, toffee, bourbon, boozy sweetness, some oaky aftertaste.
M - Velvety smooth, but a bit too cloying at times.
O - Im surprised I havent had this before, I know its been around a while. Its good, but a bit too sweet.

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Photo of hermit990
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

12 oz. bottle poured into a goblet. 2014 Vintage, date code on bottle translates to 2/25/2014. Review Date: 4/19/2014.

Appearance: Pours black/muddy brown, opaque. Half-finger's worth of a tan head that quickly dissipates into a thin layer.

Smell: Bourbon character hits first on the nose, some oak, vanilla, slight coconut aromas follow. Finishes with roasted malt, dark chocolate.

Taste: Bourbon barrel flavors hit first, matching the nose with the bourbon, oak and vanilla character. Afterwards, the malt starts to take over, lots of roasted grain and chocolate on the tongue with a very slight bitterness. Aftertaste has some coffee flavors, before the bourbon barrel emerges through again. Alcohol and dark fruits become more present as the beer warms, along with an earthy spiciness.

Mouthfeel: Body feels thin for the style. Slight alcohol heat is present. Finishes slightly dry.

Overall: This is an enjoyable, decent barrel aged offering. In my experience, it has been easy to find, but can be a bit pricy at $16 per 4 pack in my area. It is a nice option if you're in the mood for a bourbon barrel aged beer, but there are others that I would choose first.

Overall:

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Photo of OneDropSoup
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured from a bomber, looks to be pretty darn dark, if not totally black, with a bubbly tan head, about half a finger. Head dissipates quickly, almost no lacing.

Smell's rich: I get caramel, dark Christmas-y fruits (raisin, a little fig, a little black cherry), oak booze smell. None of the coffee or chocolate stuff so prevalent in stouts (which I guess is because it's not a stout, but look at this thing & try not to expect those smells).

Flavor's very similar to the smell, with little bitterness. The alcohol picks up momentum, & the wood-y flavors are emphasized a little more. Others have said the barrel flavor is overpowering, whereas I find this to be one of the more tempered & even barrel-aged beers I've had. I love the intense bourbon barrel of others, but this is very well-integrated.

Mouthfeel's on the creamy side, with a tingle from the slightly high ABV. This one does not hide its alcohol.

I found one easy enough to drink, but don't know if I need to go back for a second. I've had it on tap before (didn't review it though), & would be more apt to have a second or third of a draft.

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Photo of JamesMN
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Opaque black with a hint of brown around the edges. Very thin light brown head that is now almost nonexistent.

Aroma: Get vanilla right away. Underneath that there are roasty tones, oak, alcohol, and just a dab of dark fruit.

Taste: This one definitely has a pleasant oaky quality to it. Starts like a regular Imperial Stout with dark roasted malts and a rounded flavor. About halfway through you start to get the vanilla and oak which only builds from there. The end adds a moderate alcohol note that stays through the finish. Leaves a bitter chocolate and slightly hoppy flavor on the palate as well as some dark fruit and an alcohol bite. Real nice warmth in the back of the throat long after drinking. The 10% ABV is by no means hidden but it seems to work well that way. The only drawback is that it's not quite as robust as one would expect it to be.

Mouthfeel: Medium in body which is a little light for the style. A little more carbonation than I had anticipated but fairly easy to drink.

Final Thoughts: A little let down because of the slightly thin body. However, it hits all the right notes in terms of flavor and doesn't disappoint when it comes to the oak aged quality. Would I drink it again? It would not be my go-to Imperial Stout but I would give it a try on-tap.

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Photo of sweemzander
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

12oz. bottle poured into a snifter. No bottled date.

(A)- Pours a dark black color with just the tiniest bit of dark brown highlights. Absolutely no head formation even after a rather vigorous pour.

(S)- A general roastedness of malts. A bit of raisin & molasses-like coffee. Finishes with a touch of vanilla & brown sugar sweetness.

(T)- Basically, just like the smell foretold, only with an obviously present warmth. Rather sweet.

(M)- A good carbonation level for the style. A relatively good balance to it. Just has a small level of boozy warmth going down.

(D)- Definitely New Holland's best offering and perhaps their most popular too. Still a little sweet like most of New Hollands offerings, but not overly so. I wouldnt mind having this once and awhile.

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Photo of DoubleJ
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

After 4 hours of not having electricity in my house, it has returned. And my beer is still chilled. On to the beer:

Black, as expected, with ruby red hues when shined through a light. The head fizzes away, which is dissapointing. But hey, it smells nice. Pleasnat. Mellow. There is some vanilla, cream, and a light touch of oak. Some coffee too.

It tastes sweet and milky at first taste. Milk and cream for certain. A pinch of booze heats things up. There's the oak, and it begins to take hold. It starts to impart a fruity flavor with wood. Medium bodied with light carbonation, not quite as "high gravity" as I would expect. Actually, it thickens up some as it warms. Overall, the flavors meld better as it warms.

I was unsure about this beer at first, then things started to get better and better as it warmed. A nice beer to try if you have a sweet tooth and/or are an oak lover.

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Photo of Vancer
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Looked forward to this lil’ bad boy, the pour just got the juices flowing. A dark brown, almost black brew with a frothy tan head – head died to fast, but it did leave nice lace rings.

A malty wheat aroma, with hints of smoke. A dry and crisp pull noted caramel, chocolate and notes of a malty sour ale. Hints of burnt toast throughout the bottle.

A small alcohol burn during the bottle – this brew could have used another 6 months of aging.

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Photo of mdfb79
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 12 oz. Bottle into a pint glass.

a - A very dark black, letting in absolutely no light. It has a small amount of carbonation, and almost no head whatsoever. The smallest ring of white head appears around the edges.

s - Smells of roasted malts, vanilla, oak, also a little chocolate and coffee.

t - The taste that first jumps out at me is again the roasted malts, followed by the vanilla. It has a milky taste to it and also small hints of chocolate and bourbon, though nothing overpowering.

m - Moderate carbonation and a full body, it's actually kind of smooth.

d - Overall I think it's a decent strong ale, but nothing to write home about. It does have a creamy, smooth milk/vanilla flavor, but the alcohol comes through in it.

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Photo of rodlavers
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.75

Growler pour for Super Bowl. No head, as dark as you can get before it's black, with hints of red, very slight hints.

Smell is decent, not as intense as other bba beers: weakened vanilla, molasses, etc., some bourbon.

Taste is similar but more complex: dark fruit, some chocolate and coffe in there. Vanilla molasses and light bourbon notes are prominent.

Feel is nice and smooth, extremely light carbonation, a sense of earthiness to it. Enjoyable beer but not in the same league as other bba stouts, re: BCBS, BN, KBS. But don't let that sway you, go ahead and try it it's good. Cheers.

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Photo of BrewCrew2010
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

A: Pours a dark brown body with an extremely small tan head that's fast receding.

S: Strong aroma of vanilla from the oak, booze, roasted malts, milk chocolate, & a hint of dark fruits.

T: Initial flavor is a strong alcohol bite followed by milk chocolate, vanilla, & woody notes. There is a bit of a creamy flavor to it as well roasted malts that play out nicely against the burn of the high ABV.

D: Medium body, light carbonation, creamy and pillowy texture.

M: I have to say, I think the burn from the ABV in the flavor plays against this beer for me. If the mouthfeel was a bit heavier, I think it could help, but this would be a 1-2 beers most. Really enjoyed it, but the burn can be a bit much.

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Photo of jrallen34
3.84/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I drank this from a 12oz bottle into an Orval glass.

The beer pours a dark brown with a light tan head that rises only about half a finger and is gone pretty quickly. The lacing is light.

The aroma is medium and very nice. Its very malty lots of sweet chocolate with a nice smooth oak finish.

The taste is a little to sweet and watery for my tasty. The sweetness isn't balanced with much oak or bourbon so its a little offputting.

Overall, good start bad finish. Has some potential.

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Photo of TheSixthRing
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Appearance - Pours jet black with cola brown edging where light can penetrate. Poured aggressively, it produced a cocoa powder colored finger with head with good retention. Nice, fine and silky lacing with great stick.

Smell - Alcohol astringent forward aroma, with lesser notes of vanilla and chocolate.

Taste - Starts with strong notes of vanilla and alcohol. Strong alcohol heat throughout. Mid-taste a chalky chocolate flavor makes it's debut. Aftertaste hits on mocha coffee and faint alcohol heat.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied, with moderate carbonation. Smooth and creamy to start, but the alcohol gives a thinning, dry finish.

Overall - This is a good stout, but comes through with a lot of heat. I imagine this being a beer hard alcohol drinkers might like; I myself find it a bit too aggressive and transparent. Decent complexity that's overwhelmed by the near numbing heat. That said, there's just enough redeeming stout character that I'd drink it again.

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Photo of SpdKilz
3.83/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

First and foremost, a huge thanks to Kevin (kzoobrew) for hooking me up with this beer. Cheers friend!

Appearance - Pours a dark chocolate color into my Bell's Tulip. Slight light can be seen through the beer. Less than a finger of tan head is achieved with a vigorous pour, which dissipates relatively fast leaving thin lacing.

Smell - I will admit, my nose is a hint stuffed up tonight, however, despite this I feel there is not a whole lot going on in the nose. I can smell the vanilla and oak, slight chocolate, dark fruits such as plum, and caramel/toasted malt.

Taste - An odd bitterness is at the forefront (a bitterness I was not expecting from the nose). There is heavy oak, bourbon, and vanilla. The more I drink this and the beer warms up, the more prominent the vanilla becomes. There is only a slight chocolate characteristic here - the overall sweetness is from the vanilla and molasses flavors. A bit cloying in the sweetness department.

Mouthfeel - Medium to light bodied, a bit watery to be honest. Decent carbonation.

Drinkability - For the style and ABV, relatively so. I don't get any alcohol flavor nor burn. I will admit, however, that the New Holland Night Tripper Kevin sent me was a hell of a lot better than this. I would be interested to see how this beer would do in the cellar for a year or two. I think it would do quite a bit for it and will have to try this again in the future after a few years of age on it.

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Dragon's Milk from New Holland Brewing Company
89 out of 100 based on 1,432 ratings.
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